Moller hits the UK

[CanalBuilder]

He's at it again. Now he's convinced the BBC. I suppose it's not
surprising as media organizations are dominated by people who aren't
good at the practical stuff.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6970031.stm

Pleas feel free to contact the BBC and tell then what's wrong with the
article.

[Gig 601XL Builder]

CanalBuilder wrote:
> He's at it again. Now he's convinced the BBC. I suppose it's not
> surprising as media organizations are dominated by people who aren't
> good at the practical stuff.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6970031.stm
>
> Pleas feel free to contact the BBC and tell then what's wrong with the
> article.

I love this quote,

"Cars are finished as a means of getting around. It's only a matter of
time"

Dr Paul Moller

[Richard Isakson]

"CanalBuilder" wrote ...
> He's at it again. Now he's convinced the BBC. I suppose it's not
> surprising as media organizations are dominated by people who aren't
> good at the practical stuff.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6970031.stm
>
> Pleas feel free to contact the BBC and tell then what's wrong with the
> article.

Moller has said that if his vehicle is limited by an autopilot to 10 feet
agl then its a ground effect machine and no pilots licenced is required.
That's a great idea! I'm going to buy a bunch of surplus CH-47s, install
one of these 10 foot autopilots and market them to non-pilots. No
certification required! The man's a fraud.

Rich

[Harry K]

On Aug 30, 10:43 am, CanalBuilder >
wrote:
> He's at it again. Now he's convinced the BBC. I suppose it's not
> surprising as media organizations are dominated by people who aren't
> good at the practical stuff.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6970031.stm
>
> Pleas feel free to contact the BBC and tell then what's wrong with the
> article.

I like this:

"Dr Moller and his team have already conducted more than 200 test
flights and say the flying saucer could prove useful to rescue teams
as well as landowners. "

The reporter must be blind not to have seen the tether. The 200
figure is also suspicious.

Harry K

[Dan[_2_]]

Harry K wrote:
> On Aug 30, 10:43 am, CanalBuilder >
> wrote:
>> He's at it again. Now he's convinced the BBC. I suppose it's not
>> surprising as media organizations are dominated by people who aren't
>> good at the practical stuff.
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6970031.stm
>>
>> Pleas feel free to contact the BBC and tell then what's wrong with the
>> article.
>
> I like this:
>
> "Dr Moller and his team have already conducted more than 200 test
> flights and say the flying saucer could prove useful to rescue teams
> as well as landowners. "
>
> The reporter must be blind not to have seen the tether. The 200
> figure is also suspicious.
>
> Harry K
>
Does lifting it on a hoist count as a test flight?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Rob Turk[_2_]]

"Dan" > wrote in message
...
> Harry K wrote:
>>
>> The reporter must be blind not to have seen the tether. The 200
>> figure is also suspicious.
>>
>> Harry K
>>
> Does lifting it on a hoist count as a test flight?
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Yes. They tested it 200 times. It refused to fly each and ever time.
;-)

Rob

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Harry K" > wrote

> I like this:
>
> "Dr Moller and his team have already conducted more than 200 test
> flights and say the flying saucer could prove useful to rescue teams
> as well as landowners. "
>
> The reporter must be blind not to have seen the tether. The 200
> figure is also suspicious.

I've done my part and written the authors of the story. Has everyone else
out there?
--
Jim in NC

[Edward Kiernan]

Morgans wrote:
> "Harry K" > wrote
>
>> I like this:
>>
>> "Dr Moller and his team have already conducted more than 200 test
>> flights and say the flying saucer could prove useful to rescue teams
>> as well as landowners. "
>>
>> The reporter must be blind not to have seen the tether. The 200
>> figure is also suspicious.
>
> I've done my part and written the authors of the story. Has everyone else
> out there?

The article was edited at 1027 zulu today. It now includes reference to
his run-in with the Securities Exchange Commission, and has a much lower
profile on the website. I wonder how that happened.

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Edward Kiernan"
>
> The article was edited at 1027 zulu today. It now includes reference to
> his run-in with the Securities Exchange Commission, and has a much lower
> profile on the website. I wonder how that happened.

All of those nasty people at RAH did it to him, I'll bet! <g>
--
Jim in NC

[Gig 601XL Builder]

/. has found the story and the thread there is pathetic.

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/31/0218202

[cavelamb himself[_4_]]

Rob Turk wrote:
> "Dan" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Harry K wrote:
>>
>>>The reporter must be blind not to have seen the tether. The 200
>>>figure is also suspicious.
>>>
>>>Harry K
>>>
>>
>>Does lifting it on a hoist count as a test flight?
>>
>>Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>
>
> Yes. They tested it 200 times. It refused to fly each and ever time.
> ;-)
>
> Rob
>
>
LOL! Good one, Rob

[Big John]

CB

Anyone remember 5-10 years ago when he was advertising for a used Zero
Zero ejection seat? Even then he recognized that his device was
dangerous and need a way out from an engine failure.

He might now buy a chute like is getting popular on GA birds to save
his ass when all goes to hell when he un tethers (pardon the english
:o)

Big John
*********************************

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:43:29 GMT, CanalBuilder
> wrote:

>He's at it again. Now he's convinced the BBC. I suppose it's not
>surprising as media organizations are dominated by people who aren't
>good at the practical stuff.
>
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6970031.stm
>
>Pleas feel free to contact the BBC and tell then what's wrong with the
>article.

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, Big John > said:
>He might now buy a chute like is getting popular on GA birds to save
>his ass when all goes to hell when he un tethers (pardon the english

Won't do him much good from 10 feet up.


--
Paul Tomblin > http://blog.xcski.com/
"Every computer crashes, because every OS sucks"
- Three Dead Trolls In A Baggie, "Every OS Sucks" http://www.deadtroll.com/

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Edward Kiernan" > wrote
>
> The article was edited at 1027 zulu today. It now includes reference to
> his run-in with the Securities Exchange Commission, and has a much lower
> profile on the website. I wonder how that happened.

Just a note to say that I got an E-mail from the editor of the part of the
BBC that was responsible for the story.

They informed me that they had been in touch with the security exchange
commission, and had revised the article, and thanked me for my E-mail.
--
Jim in NC

[J.Kahn]

Harry K wrote:

>
> "Dr Moller and his team have already conducted more than 200 test
> flights and say the flying saucer could prove useful to rescue teams
> as well as landowners. "
>
> The reporter must be blind not to have seen the tether. The 200
> figure is also suspicious.
>
> Harry K
>

I believe that's a misquote. It should say "could prove useful to
rescue teams as well as as lawnmowers".

Just gotta sharpen the leading edges of the rotors...

John

[Tim Ward[_1_]]

"Paul Tomblin" > wrote in message
...
> In a previous article, Big John > said:
> >He might now buy a chute like is getting popular on GA birds to save
> >his ass when all goes to hell when he un tethers (pardon the english
>
> Won't do him much good from 10 feet up.
>
>
> --
> Paul Tomblin > http://blog.xcski.com/
> "Every computer crashes, because every OS sucks"
> - Three Dead Trolls In A Baggie, "Every OS Sucks"
http://www.deadtroll.com/

Well, if you had a short enough tether, a rocket-deployed chute could at
least cover up the mess.

Tim Ward

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Tim Ward" > wrote
>
> Well, if you had a short enough tether, a rocket-deployed chute could at
> least cover up the mess.

LOL ! ! !
--
Jim in NC

[Bret Ludwig]

> > Harry K
>
> I believe that's a misquote. It should say "could prove useful to
> rescue teams as well as as lawnmowers".
>
> Just gotta sharpen the leading edges of the rotors...


As a point of fact, the Toro company made a hovercraft-lawnmower
called the Flymo at two different times in its history. Both times it
was recalled for consumer safety, but it worked very well.

[J.Kahn]

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>> Harry K
>> I believe that's a misquote. It should say "could prove useful to
>> rescue teams as well as as lawnmowers".
>>
>> Just gotta sharpen the leading edges of the rotors...
>
>
> As a point of fact, the Toro company made a hovercraft-lawnmower
> called the Flymo at two different times in its history. Both times it
> was recalled for consumer safety, but it worked very well.
>
>
I tried one and found it was only good on flat ground.

[Morgans[_2_]]

"J.Kahn" <> wrote

> I tried one and found it was only good on flat ground.

Here in Western NC, that would only make it good for use as a fan, or a
Moller car; take your pick! ;-))
--
Jim in NC

[Dan[_2_]]

Ernest Christley wrote:
> Morgans wrote:
>> "J.Kahn" <> wrote
>>
>>> I tried one and found it was only good on flat ground.
>>
>> Here in Western NC, that would only make it good for use as a fan, or
>> a Moller car; take your pick! ;-))
>
>
> But...but...they're the same thing!!

Not quite, a fan is practical and usually properly priced.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Dan" <wrote

> Not quite, a fan is practical and usually properly priced.

Well, at least it would be an eight engined very LOUD fan.

Wait a minute, here. I see a parallel, suddenly.

Fan not being properly priced, but loud. That is starting to sound like a
Harley! (but it is only a fan while it is going somewhere)

<ducking, and running> ;-o)

How do you know if a Harley has plenty of oil in it? It's still leaking oil
on the ground! <g>
--
Jim in NC

[Dale Alexander]

I remember the old joke, "If Harley-Davidson built airplanes, would you
fly?"

Dale Alexander

"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dan" <wrote
>
>> Not quite, a fan is practical and usually properly priced.
>
> Well, at least it would be an eight engined very LOUD fan.
>
> Wait a minute, here. I see a parallel, suddenly.
>
> Fan not being properly priced, but loud. That is starting to sound like a
> Harley! (but it is only a fan while it is going somewhere)
>
> <ducking, and running> ;-o)
>
> How do you know if a Harley has plenty of oil in it? It's still leaking
> oil on the ground! <g>
> --
> Jim in NC
>

[Ron Webb]

"Dale Alexander" > wrote in message
...
>I remember the old joke, "If Harley-Davidson built airplanes, would you
>fly?"
>
> Dale Alexander
>


Ah, but they do!
http://www.ultralightflyer.com/airshow-snf05/21.html



-- Why doesn't Harley build computers?

-- They tried, but the engineers couldn't find a way to make the computers
leak oil!

[Anthony W]

Moller hit the local news here in Portland, OR with his latest pile of
crap. It shows that news people can't tell their asses from holes in
the ground.

Tony

[Peter Dohm]

"Dale Alexander" > wrote in message
...
> I remember the old joke, "If Harley-Davidson built airplanes, would you
> fly?"
>
> Dale Alexander
>
It really is no longer true, since the belt drives, but my favorite of those
old Harley jokes was from the guy who told me: "Yeah, it's a nice ride; but
you'll get oil under a picture of a Harley!"

Peter