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cjcampbell
August 31st 07, 03:48 PM
To whomever suggested that my atrial fibrillation might be a sign of a
thyroid condition, thanks. As it turned out, it is Graves disease,
something that the FAA can work with.
One symptom of Graves is increased irritability which, thankfully, has
not been bothering me. Seems to bother everybody else, though. :-)
It also can cause you to lose weight (unfortunately, in my case, I am
experiencing a very rare weight gain -- and will probably gain weight
again in a couple months as the disease is brought under control). At
least my eyes don't bug out like Marty Feldman's (he had Graves). Good
thing, too, or it could cause double vision. It does make me very
sensitive to heat, something which was bothering me a great deal in
the Philippines.
Indications are that the condition is probably not permanent and might
even go away on its own.
On Aug 31, 8:48 am, cjcampbell >
wrote:
> To whomever suggested that my atrial fibrillation might be a sign of a
> thyroid condition, thanks. As it turned out, it is Graves disease,
> something that the FAA can work with.
>
> One symptom of Graves is increased irritability which, thankfully, has
> not been bothering me. Seems to bother everybody else, though. :-)
>
> It also can cause you to lose weight (unfortunately, in my case, I am
> experiencing a very rare weight gain -- and will probably gain weight
> again in a couple months as the disease is brought under control). At
> least my eyes don't bug out like Marty Feldman's (he had Graves). Good
> thing, too, or it could cause double vision. It does make me very
> sensitive to heat, something which was bothering me a great deal in
> the Philippines.
>
> Indications are that the condition is probably not permanent and might
> even go away on its own.
CJ,
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. Be sure to eat healthy, that
never hurts. Will you be able to keep flying? Is having the FAA
"work with it" mean you won't lose your medical?
Watch out for the Broncos! They are coming your way after warming up
with a 56-7 win over Weber State. The score would have been higher,
but the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th string players all got lots of time in the
second half (it was 49-0 at the end of the 1st half).
Dean
cjcampbell
September 1st 07, 06:30 AM
On Aug 31, 12:50 pm, wrote:
> On Aug 31, 8:48 am, cjcampbell >
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > To whomever suggested that my atrial fibrillation might be a sign of a
> > thyroid condition, thanks. As it turned out, it is Graves disease,
> > something that the FAA can work with.
>
> > One symptom of Graves is increased irritability which, thankfully, has
> > not been bothering me. Seems to bother everybody else, though. :-)
>
> > It also can cause you to lose weight (unfortunately, in my case, I am
> > experiencing a very rare weight gain -- and will probably gain weight
> > again in a couple months as the disease is brought under control). At
> > least my eyes don't bug out like Marty Feldman's (he had Graves). Good
> > thing, too, or it could cause double vision. It does make me very
> > sensitive to heat, something which was bothering me a great deal in
> > the Philippines.
>
> > Indications are that the condition is probably not permanent and might
> > even go away on its own.
>
> CJ,
>
> I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. Be sure to eat healthy, that
> never hurts. Will you be able to keep flying? Is having the FAA
> "work with it" mean you won't lose your medical?
>
Yeah. But I might have to take a stress test and EKG for a few years.
> Watch out for the Broncos! They are coming your way after warming up
> with a 56-7 win over Weber State. The score would have been higher,
> but the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th string players all got lots of time in the
> second half (it was 49-0 at the end of the 1st half).
>
> Dean
So, what. They finally lent Weber a few players so they could get on
the scoreboard? :-)
Larry Dighera
September 1st 07, 03:01 PM
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:48:38 -0700, cjcampbell
> wrote in
om>:
>To whomever suggested that my atrial fibrillation might be a sign of a
>thyroid condition, thanks. As it turned out, it is Graves disease,
>something that the FAA can work with.
>
According to the "Thyroid misdiagnosed as mental disorder" message
thread in alt.support.thyroid, Graves is capable of precipitating
other symptoms.
September 1st 07, 03:28 PM
> >To whomever suggested that my atrial fibrillation might be a sign of a
> >thyroid condition, thanks. As it turned out, it is Graves disease,
> >something that the FAA can work with.
>
> According to the "Thyroid misdiagnosed as mental disorder" message
> thread in alt.support.thyroid, Graves is capable of precipitating
> other symptoms.
Checking a TSH is pretty standard emergency medicine care for both new
onset a. fib, as well as suspected depression, bipolar symptoms,
suicidal ideations, etc. There's more to it than just a TSH, but that
is the test we can get 24/7.
-Ryan in Madison
(who's real job deals with this stuff everyday)
cjcampbell
September 1st 07, 07:32 PM
On Sep 1, 7:01 am, Larry Dighera > wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:48:38 -0700, cjcampbell
> > wrote in
> om>:
>
> >To whomever suggested that my atrial fibrillation might be a sign of a
> >thyroid condition, thanks. As it turned out, it is Graves disease,
> >something that the FAA can work with.
>
> According to the "Thyroid misdiagnosed as mental disorder" message
> thread in alt.support.thyroid, Graves is capable of precipitating
> other symptoms.
Yeah. Some of them can kill you, apparently. They ran a pretty
thorough set of tests. Mine is considered to be 'mild.' I would hate
to see what a serious case is like.
John Boyle
September 1st 07, 07:44 PM
cjcampbell wrote:
> On Sep 1, 7:01 am, Larry Dighera > wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:48:38 -0700, cjcampbell
>> > wrote in
>> om>:
>>
>>> To whomever suggested that my atrial fibrillation might be a sign of a
>>> thyroid condition, thanks. As it turned out, it is Graves disease,
>>> something that the FAA can work with.
>> According to the "Thyroid misdiagnosed as mental disorder" message
>> thread in alt.support.thyroid, Graves is capable of precipitating
>> other symptoms.
>
> Yeah. Some of them can kill you, apparently. They ran a pretty
> thorough set of tests. Mine is considered to be 'mild.' I would hate
> to see what a serious case is like.
>
To Mr. Campbell: Congratulations on your health not being as bad as
first thought! Keep on Flying!
Jay Honeck
September 1st 07, 08:35 PM
> Indications are that the condition is probably not permanent and might
> even go away on its own.
Glad to hear it CJ.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
karl gruber[_1_]
September 2nd 07, 03:16 AM
Good luck CJ.. I hope you have a good AME who can work with you.
Best,
Karl
"cjcampbell" > wrote in message
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> On Sep 1, 7:01 am, Larry Dighera > wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:48:38 -0700, cjcampbell
>> > wrote in
>> om>:
>>
>> >To whomever suggested that my atrial fibrillation might be a sign of a
>> >thyroid condition, thanks. As it turned out, it is Graves disease,
>> >something that the FAA can work with.
>>
>> According to the "Thyroid misdiagnosed as mental disorder" message
>> thread in alt.support.thyroid, Graves is capable of precipitating
>> other symptoms.
>
> Yeah. Some of them can kill you, apparently. They ran a pretty
> thorough set of tests. Mine is considered to be 'mild.' I would hate
> to see what a serious case is like.
>
cjcampbell
September 2nd 07, 06:50 AM
On Sep 1, 10:09 pm, Richard Riley > wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 11:32:58 -0700, cjcampbell
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> >On Sep 1, 7:01 am, Larry Dighera > wrote:
> >> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:48:38 -0700, cjcampbell
> >> > wrote in
> >> om>:
>
> >> >To whomever suggested that my atrial fibrillation might be a sign of a
> >> >thyroid condition, thanks. As it turned out, it is Graves disease,
> >> >something that the FAA can work with.
>
> >> According to the "Thyroid misdiagnosed as mental disorder" message
> >> thread in alt.support.thyroid, Graves is capable of precipitating
> >> other symptoms.
>
> >Yeah. Some of them can kill you, apparently. They ran a pretty
> >thorough set of tests. Mine is considered to be 'mild.' I would hate
> >to see what a serious case is like.
>
> http://vodkapundit.com/archives/008895.php
Yeah, I can relate to a lot of that, except for the weight loss. The
appetite, though -- that sure is annoying. As is the muscle loss.
Still, it is not as if it incapacitated me. The treatment does leave
me short of breath and aggravates my asthma, but it is not severe
enough to force me to use an inhaler -- I just cough a little more.
The most dangerous thing is the medication can cause you to suddenly
stop producing white blood cells, which makes even a sore throat or a
cold a medical emergency. Fortunately, that side effect is extremely
rare.
I don't know what test he took where 180 was considered 'normal.' I do
know that some of my tests were either 'indeterminate' or just barely
hyperthyroid, while others were way off the chart. The working theory
is that either it is trying to cure itself or the thyroid might be
transitioning to a hypothyroid state. There are so many weird things
they really don't seem to know, like what causes it in the first place.
Richard
September 2nd 07, 10:06 PM
"cjcampbell" > wrote in message
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> On Sep 1, 10:09 pm, Richard Riley > wrote:
>> On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 11:32:58 -0700, cjcampbell
>> http://vodkapundit.com/archives/008895.php
>
> Yeah, I can relate to a lot of that, except for the weight loss. The
> appetite, though -- that sure is annoying. As is the muscle loss.
>
> Still, it is not as if it incapacitated me. The treatment does leave
> me short of breath and aggravates my asthma, but it is not severe
> enough to force me to use an inhaler -- I just cough a little more.
> The most dangerous thing is the medication can cause you to suddenly
> stop producing white blood cells, which makes even a sore throat or a
> cold a medical emergency. Fortunately, that side effect is extremely
> rare.
>
> I don't know what test he took where 180 was considered 'normal.' I do
> know that some of my tests were either 'indeterminate' or just barely
> hyperthyroid, while others were way off the chart. The working theory
> is that either it is trying to cure itself or the thyroid might be
> transitioning to a hypothyroid state. There are so many weird things
> they really don't seem to know, like what causes it in the first place.
>
That blog made it sound life threatening but that usually isn't the case.
From my experience I would suggest you give drug treatment a try for at
least a couple of years. Both surgery and RAI have risks. I went with RAI as
mine was severe but it has had effects that I was not warned about.
Regular blood tests are needed every 6 - 8 weeks until levels stabilise.
That could take several months.
Educate yourself. Find a doctor or endocrinologist that knows the answers to
your questions or is willing to consider your own research.
For a good explanation of all things thyroid by doctors for doctors try
http://www.thyroidmanager.org/thyroidbook.htm
tony roberts
September 3rd 07, 04:46 AM
Hi Chris
Well it looks as though the eagle will still be waddling :)
Good news - you must be very relieved.
We are all thinking of you,
Take care
Tony
--
Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Cessna 172H C-GICE
cjcampbell
September 4th 07, 12:10 AM
On Sep 2, 8:46 pm, tony roberts > wrote:
> Hi Chris
>
> Well it looks as though the eagle will still be waddling :)
> Good news - you must be very relieved.
> We are all thinking of you,
>
> Take care
Thanks. Now if only I could get my computer back. I busted the
ExpressCard slot on my MacBook Pro and it has been in the shop for
more than week waiting on parts. Using Google Groups in the meantime
is about as much fun as sticking burning toothpicks under my
fingernails...
September 4th 07, 09:40 PM
>
> So, what. They finally lent Weber a few players so they could get on
> the scoreboard? :-)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
CJ, UW sure has a tough schedule... Boise State, Ohio State, UCLA,
USC...
If you win all those games you deserve to be ranked #1. Good luck.
I'll be watching this Saturday.
Dean
John Boyle
September 4th 07, 09:54 PM
cjcampbell wrote:
> On Sep 2, 8:46 pm, tony roberts > wrote:
>> Hi Chris
>>
>> Well it looks as though the eagle will still be waddling :)
>> Good news - you must be very relieved.
>> We are all thinking of you,
>>
>> Take care
>
> Thanks. Now if only I could get my computer back. I busted the
> ExpressCard slot on my MacBook Pro and it has been in the shop for
> more than week waiting on parts. Using Google Groups in the meantime
> is about as much fun as sticking burning toothpicks under my
> fingernails...
>
To Mr. Campbell: But don't the toothpicks take away the other pain?
Kloudy via AviationKB.com
September 4th 07, 09:54 PM
cjcampbell wrote:
>
>One symptom of Graves is increased irritability which, thankfully, has
>not been bothering me. Seems to bother everybody else, though. :-)
LMAO...classic
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cjcampbell
September 5th 07, 01:26 AM
On Sep 4, 1:40 pm, wrote:
> > So, what. They finally lent Weber a few players so they could get on
> > the scoreboard? :-)- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> CJ, UW sure has a tough schedule... Boise State, Ohio State, UCLA,
> USC...
>
> If you win all those games you deserve to be ranked #1. Good luck.
> I'll be watching this Saturday.
>
> Dean
We are going to be in Mazatlan that day (and all the next week), so I
guess I won't find out how they did until late Saturday night -- if I
bother to take a computer with us. Might hear it on the news, though.
Too bad, it should be a good game. After what Washington did to
Syracuse, it sounds like a couple of unstoppable freight trains are
headed for each other.
Jane reminds me that Washington State is not doing too badly, either.
So the Apple Cup will generate the usual amount of interest it does in
this household. We usually decorate the house with school banners and
mascots that weekend. Loser buys dinner.
Jay Masino
September 5th 07, 12:58 PM
In rec.aviation.piloting cjcampbell > wrote:
> > >To whomever suggested that my atrial fibrillation might be a sign of a
> > >thyroid condition, thanks. As it turned out, it is Graves disease,
> > >something that the FAA can work with.
> >
> > According to the "Thyroid misdiagnosed as mental disorder" message
> > thread in alt.support.thyroid, Graves is capable of precipitating
> > other symptoms.
>
> Yeah. Some of them can kill you, apparently. They ran a pretty
> thorough set of tests. Mine is considered to be 'mild.' I would hate
> to see what a serious case is like.
>
CJ,
I was diagnosed with Graves about 10 years ago... a very high pulse
rate was detected during my FAA medical, and they deferred me. I went
with RAI, and it took a year or two before I completely stabilized on
175 mcg of synthroid. Now, I'm just checked once a year.
If I remember right, it took me about 3-4 months to get my medical
back, after my deferral. Now, I just put "175 mcg synthroid - no
change" on my medical form, and I haven't had an issue with any AME.
--- Jay
--
Jay Masino "Home is where My critters are"
http://www.JayMasino.com
http://www.OceanCityAirport.com
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cjcampbell
September 5th 07, 08:04 PM
On Sep 5, 4:58 am, (Jay Masino) wrote:
> In rec.aviation.piloting cjcampbell > wrote:
>
> > > >To whomever suggested that my atrial fibrillation might be a sign of a
> > > >thyroid condition, thanks. As it turned out, it is Graves disease,
> > > >something that the FAA can work with.
>
> > > According to the "Thyroid misdiagnosed as mental disorder" message
> > > thread in alt.support.thyroid, Graves is capable of precipitating
> > > other symptoms.
>
> > Yeah. Some of them can kill you, apparently. They ran a pretty
> > thorough set of tests. Mine is considered to be 'mild.' I would hate
> > to see what a serious case is like.
>
> CJ,
>
> I was diagnosed with Graves about 10 years ago... a very high pulse
> rate was detected during my FAA medical, and they deferred me. I went
> with RAI, and it took a year or two before I completely stabilized on
> 175 mcg of synthroid. Now, I'm just checked once a year.
>
> If I remember right, it took me about 3-4 months to get my medical
> back, after my deferral. Now, I just put "175 mcg synthroid - no
> change" on my medical form, and I haven't had an issue with any AME.
>
That is mostly what I am hearing as well -- and I do not even have the
extremely high pulse rate.
Private
September 20th 07, 04:39 AM
"cjcampbell" > wrote in message
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> Indications are that the condition is probably not permanent and might
> even go away on its own.
Best wishes and happy landings.
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