Steve Fossett - Missing

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I understand that Fossett is missing after leaving the Hilton Ranch
yesterday in a Super Decathlon. I hope that he is found OK.

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On Sep 4, 10:38 am, wrote:
> I understand that Fossett is missing after leaving the Hilton Ranch
> yesterday in a Super Decathlon. I hope that he is found OK.

Bad news indeed.

Guys be safe out there.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/04/fossett.missing/index.html

Regards

Al

[Bob Kuykendall]

On Sep 4, 11:26 am, " >
wrote:

> Bad news indeed.
>
> Guys be safe out there.
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/04/fossett.missing/index.html

Al, any idea who's coordinating the search and whether they need any
help? I tried calling Lt. Ryan and also another couple CAP wings, no
answer yet. Lt. Ryan's phone is busy all the time, hopefully that's a
good sign.

Thanks, Bob K.

[Keith]

In message om>, Bob
Kuykendall > writes
>On Sep 4, 11:26 am, " >
>wrote:
>
>> Bad news indeed.
>>
>> Guys be safe out there.
>>
>> http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/04/fossett.missing/index.html
>
>Al, any idea who's coordinating the search and whether they need any
>help? I tried calling Lt. Ryan and also another couple CAP wings, no
>answer yet. Lt. Ryan's phone is busy all the time, hopefully that's a
>good sign.
>
>Thanks, Bob K.
>
Been found OK according to UK evening news
--
Keith

[Bob Kuykendall]

On Sep 4, 11:58 am, Bob Kuykendall > wrote:

> Al, any idea who's coordinating the search and whether they need any
> help? I tried calling Lt. Ryan and also another couple CAP wings, no
> answer yet. Lt. Ryan's phone is busy all the time, hopefully that's a
> good sign.

I just got through to _Maj._ Ryan. She says they don't need additional
help at this time - they have six aircraft and crews and three
helicopters in the air.

[Vaughn Simon]

"Keith" > wrote in message
...
>>
> Been found OK according to UK evening news

I would love for that to be true, but that is not what is being reported here
in the US.

Vaughn

[Cats]

On Sep 4, 11:27 pm, "Vaughn Simon" >
wrote:
> "Keith" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > Been found OK according to UK evening news
>
> I would love for that to be true, but that is not what is being reported here
> in the US.

It is also not what is being reported in the UK this morning.

[FreeFlight107]

> > > Been found OK according to UK evening news
>
> > I would love for that to be true, but that is not what is being reported here
> > in the US.
>
> It is also not what is being reported in the UK this morning.

As of 1600 GMT no news of him being found in any news outlets.

I'd say the lack of any radio signals at all, is not a good sign.

I'd be very interested in what circumstances could cause such an
expereinced pilot to go missing in an area he's fairly familiar with.

[FreeFlight107]

On Sep 5, 2:20 pm, FreeFlight107 > wrote:
> > > > Been found OK according to UK evening news
>
> > > I would love for that to be true, but that is not what is being reported here
> > > in the US.
>
> > It is also not what is being reported in the UK this morning.
>
> As of 1600 GMT no news of him being found in any news outlets.
>
> I'd say the lack of any radio signals at all, is not a good sign.
>
> I'd be very interested in what circumstances could cause such an
> expereinced pilot to go missing in an area he's fairly familiar with.

Sorry on time, wrong way on clock, s/b as of 1000 AM GMT.

[Cats]

On Sep 4, 7:58 pm, Bob Kuykendall > wrote:
<snip>
>Lt. Ryan's phone is busy all the time, hopefully that's a good sign.

No, it just means lots of people are trying to call Major Ryan. I
can't see how it's good or bad.

[fcnorton]

On Sep 5, 7:04 am, Cats > wrote:
> On Sep 4, 7:58 pm, Bob Kuykendall > wrote:
> <snip>
>
> >Lt. Ryan's phone is busy all the time, hopefully that's a good sign.
>
> No, it just means lots of people are trying to call Major Ryan. I
> can't see how it's good or bad.

Wow...he even has an ELT in his watch!

"Even if the plane locator failed, Fossett usually wears a Breitling
Emergency watch that allows pilots to easily signal their location,
said Granger Whitelaw, co-founder of the Rocket Racing League.

"They're registered to us personally, so they know it's you," he said
by phone Wednesday from New York. There had been no word of such a
signal by Wednesday."

[Stewart Kissel]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,,-6899201,00.html

Oh I just love the news media trying to report on aviation
matters....
quotes from Mark Twain no less!!!

Now if they can just figure out how to get Paris Hilton
into the story.

[Jim Vincent]

Steve Fossett took off from Paris Hilton's great grandfather's ranch early
this morning. Unlike Paris, he was not drunk, stoned, or recently gang
banged.

"Stewart Kissel" > wrote in
message ...
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,,-6899201,00.html
>
> Oh I just love the news media trying to report on aviation
> matters....
> quotes from Mark Twain no less!!!
>
> Now if they can just figure out how to get Paris Hilton
> into the story.
>
>
>

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On Sep 5, 5:46 pm, Stewart Kissel
> wrote:
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,,-6899201,00.html
>
> Oh I just love the news media trying to report on aviation
> matters....
> quotes from Mark Twain no less!!!
>
> Now if they can just figure out how to get Paris Hilton
> into the story.


wow what an awful story. half of it is about the horrible winds in
the sierras, then they mention ever so slightly that the wind was dead
calm on monday. They call a Super Decathlon a twin engine airplane,
quote mark twain, imply that cropdusters take unnecessary risks, and
call fosset the #1 gliding pilot in the world...

[shawn]

wrote:
> On Sep 5, 5:46 pm, Stewart Kissel
> > wrote:
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,,-6899201,00.html
>>
>> Oh I just love the news media trying to report on aviation
>> matters....
>> quotes from Mark Twain no less!!!
>>
>> Now if they can just figure out how to get Paris Hilton
>> into the story.
>
>
> wow what an awful story. half of it is about the horrible winds in
> the sierras, then they mention ever so slightly that the wind was dead
> calm on monday. They call a Super Decathlon a twin engine airplane,
> quote mark twain, imply that cropdusters take unnecessary risks, and
> call fosset the #1 gliding pilot in the world...
>

I think ol' Dick Branson is prone to hyperbole now and then ;-)
Maybe he was flying a "Super Duper Decathlon"?
Plus, the three fatalities in '99 were utterly unrelated to the winds in
the area. One was due to a rigging error (very sad), and the Nimbus 4DM
was over stressed after a spin recovery.
Crappy journalism. The writer probably does the science reporting for
his paper too :-p


Shawn

[Shirl]

shawn > wrote:
> I think ol' Dick Branson is prone to hyperbole now and then ;-)
> Maybe he was flying a "Super Duper Decathlon"?
> Plus, the three fatalities in '99 were utterly unrelated to the winds in
> the area. One was due to a rigging error (very sad), and the Nimbus 4DM
> was over stressed after a spin recovery.
> Crappy journalism. The writer probably does the science reporting for
> his paper too :-p

If no one calls him on his inaccurate/misleading reporting, he'll never
take more care to get his facts straight.

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Fossett's ELT apparently did not turn on or was out of range.

If Fosset had a continuous real-time tracker, the job of finding him
might have been a lot easier. I have a APRS tracker that continuously
sends position/velocity info on the ham frequency. Worked very well so
far and gives peace of mind to relatives - and useful to FAA on a
flight plan.

You can build an APRS tracker for about $250. A basic ham license is
easy to get. One of these could save your life.

For more info see http://www.abri.com/sq2000/GPStrack.html
------------------------------------------------
SQ2000 canard, http://www.abri.com/sq2000/

On Sep 4, 12:38 pm, wrote:
> I understand that Fossett is missing after leaving the Hilton Ranch
> yesterday in a Super Decathlon. I hope that he is found OK.

[Bruce]

By international reporting standards that's not too bad...

I mean they did actually get a few facts right.

wrote:
> On Sep 5, 5:46 pm, Stewart Kissel
> > wrote:
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,,-6899201,00.html
>>
>> Oh I just love the news media trying to report on aviation
>> matters....
>> quotes from Mark Twain no less!!!
>>
>> Now if they can just figure out how to get Paris Hilton
>> into the story.
>
>
> wow what an awful story. half of it is about the horrible winds in
> the sierras, then they mention ever so slightly that the wind was dead
> calm on monday. They call a Super Decathlon a twin engine airplane,
> quote mark twain, imply that cropdusters take unnecessary risks, and
> call fosset the #1 gliding pilot in the world...
>

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On Sep 6, 1:04 pm, Bruce > wrote:
> By international reporting standards that's not too bad...
>
> I mean they did actually get a few facts right.

you are right. Steve is still missing