Would you fly on this airline?

[Jay Honeck]

KATHMANDU (Reuters) - Officials at Nepal's state-run airline have
sacrificed two goats to appease Akash Bhairab, the Hindu sky god,
following technical problems with one of its Boeing 757 aircraft, the
carrier said Tuesday.

I wonder what the Boeing service manual says about this?

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination'

[B A R R Y[_2_]]

Jay Honeck wrote:
> KATHMANDU (Reuters) - Officials at Nepal's state-run airline have
> sacrificed two goats to appease Akash Bhairab, the Hindu sky god,
> following technical problems with one of its Boeing 757 aircraft, the
> carrier said Tuesday.
>
> I wonder what the Boeing service manual says about this?

Maybe it specifies, size, weight, sex, and color of goat? <G>

There cannot be any sacrificing of unapproved goats!

[[email protected]]

On Sep 5, 9:28 am, Jay Honeck > wrote:
> KATHMANDU (Reuters) - Officials at Nepal's state-run airline have
> sacrificed two goats to appease Akash Bhairab, the Hindu sky god,
> following technical problems with one of its Boeing 757 aircraft, the
> carrier said Tuesday.
>
> I wonder what the Boeing service manual says about this?
>
> :-)
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination'

I used to work for Boeing. Two goats is adequate for a non-mission
critical component. For any equipment that takes you below the MEL
(Minimum Equipment List), the sacrifice of a virgin is
required... :-)

Dean
www.aeroleds.com

[Andrew Gideon]

On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:59:00 -0700, deanwil wrote:

> Two goats is adequate for a non-mission
> critical component. For any equipment that takes you below the MEL
> (Minimum Equipment List), the sacrifice of a virgin is required...

How is the virginity of the goat verified?

- Andrew

[Marco Leon]

"Andrew Gideon" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:59:00 -0700, deanwil wrote:
>
>> Two goats is adequate for a non-mission
>> critical component. For any equipment that takes you below the MEL
>> (Minimum Equipment List), the sacrifice of a virgin is required...
>
> How is the virginity of the goat verified?

"Dirty Jobs" is looking for new jobs to feature for their show. Give them a
call!

Marco

[B A R R Y[_2_]]

Marco Leon wrote:
> "Andrew Gideon" > wrote in message

>> How is the virginity of the goat verified?
>
> "Dirty Jobs" is looking for new jobs to feature for their show. Give them a
> call!
>

It's not like Mike Rowe hasn't been there before!

[Ken Finney]

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> On Sep 5, 9:28 am, Jay Honeck > wrote:
>> KATHMANDU (Reuters) - Officials at Nepal's state-run airline have
>> sacrificed two goats to appease Akash Bhairab, the Hindu sky god,
>> following technical problems with one of its Boeing 757 aircraft, the
>> carrier said Tuesday.
>>
>> I wonder what the Boeing service manual says about this?
>>
>> :-)
>> --
>> Jay Honeck
>> Iowa City, IA
>> Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
>> "Your Aviation Destination'
>
> I used to work for Boeing. Two goats is adequate for a non-mission
> critical component. For any equipment that takes you below the MEL
> (Minimum Equipment List), the sacrifice of a virgin is
> required... :-)
>

Good luck finding one of those in Washington State! If we could, Mt. St.
Helens wouldn't keep erupting! ;^)

[S Green]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> KATHMANDU (Reuters) - Officials at Nepal's state-run airline have
> sacrificed two goats to appease Akash Bhairab, the Hindu sky god,
> following technical problems with one of its Boeing 757 aircraft, the
> carrier said Tuesday.
>
> I wonder what the Boeing service manual says about this?

depends on who or what you worship - a lot worse has been sacrificed in the
name of money.

[cjcampbell]

On Sep 5, 11:13 am, "Ken Finney" > wrote:
>
> > I used to work for Boeing. Two goats is adequate for a non-mission
> > critical component. For any equipment that takes you below the MEL
> > (Minimum Equipment List), the sacrifice of a virgin is
> > required... :-)
>
> Good luck finding one of those in Washington State! If we could, Mt. St.
> Helens wouldn't keep erupting! ;^)

We haven't had any eruptions lately. I think they sacrificed one of
Branson's planes to it.

[Montblack]

("Jay Honeck" wrote)
> KATHMANDU (Reuters) - Officials at Nepal's state-run airline have
> sacrificed two goats to appease Akash Bhairab, the Hindu sky god,
> following technical problems with one of its Boeing 757 aircraft, the
> carrier said Tuesday.
>
> I wonder what the Boeing service manual says about this?


You're ......<wait for it> ......"kidding", right?

BTW, sacrificing two goats is the accepted procedure for fixing...

.....<wait for it>.... gyros!


Paul-Mont :-)

[cjcampbell]

On Sep 5, 8:28 am, Jay Honeck > wrote:
> KATHMANDU (Reuters) - Officials at Nepal's state-run airline have
> sacrificed two goats to appease Akash Bhairab, the Hindu sky god,
> following technical problems with one of its Boeing 757 aircraft, the
> carrier said Tuesday.
>
> I wonder what the Boeing service manual says about this?
>
> :-)

Eh, why not sacrifice a couple of goats? I know plenty of Christians
who pray before a flight. Who am I to criticize another man's
religion?

[Jay Honeck]

> So if some mechanics have had a particularly tough time on an aircraft and
> have a hankering for goat curry, a quick sacrifice on the tarmac wouldn't
> surprise me one bit. Our driver when we lived there sacrificed a goat to
> our Mercedes once a year.

It's always surprising to me that there are still people in the world
who believe that killing an animal will help...anything, outside of
hunger.

I wonder what they think is holding the airplane up, so high in the
sky?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[John Godwin]

Jay Honeck > wrote in
oups.com:

> I wonder what they think is holding the airplane up, so high in
> the sky?
>
Goat horns? <g>

--

[Larry Dighera]

On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:28:21 -0700, Jay Honeck >
wrote in . com>:

>KATHMANDU (Reuters) - Officials at Nepal's state-run airline have
>sacrificed two goats to appease Akash Bhairab, the Hindu sky god,
>following technical problems with one of its Boeing 757 aircraft, the
>carrier said Tuesday.

Irrational beliefs ultimately lead to irrational acts.
-- Larry Dighera,

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>> So if some mechanics have had a particularly tough time on an aircraft
>> and
>> have a hankering for goat curry, a quick sacrifice on the tarmac wouldn't
>> surprise me one bit. Our driver when we lived there sacrificed a goat to
>> our Mercedes once a year.
>
> It's always surprising to me that there are still people in the world
> who believe that killing an animal will help...anything, outside of
> hunger.
>
> I wonder what they think is holding the airplane up, so high in the
> sky?

Turtles standing on each others backs.

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("Jay Honeck" wrote)
>> KATHMANDU (Reuters) - Officials at Nepal's state-run airline have
>> sacrificed two goats to appease Akash Bhairab, the Hindu sky god,
>> following technical problems with one of its Boeing 757 aircraft, the
>> carrier said Tuesday.
>>
>> I wonder what the Boeing service manual says about this?
>
>
> You're ......<wait for it> ......"kidding", right?
>
> BTW, sacrificing two goats is the accepted procedure for fixing...
>
> ....<wait for it>.... gyros!
>

You're a real butt head!

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("Jay Honeck" wrote)
>> KATHMANDU (Reuters) - Officials at Nepal's state-run airline have
>> sacrificed two goats to appease Akash Bhairab, the Hindu sky god,
>> following technical problems with one of its Boeing 757 aircraft, the
>> carrier said Tuesday.
>>
>> I wonder what the Boeing service manual says about this?
>
>
> You're ......<wait for it> ......"kidding", right?
>
> BTW, sacrificing two goats is the accepted procedure for fixing...
>
> ....<wait for it>.... gyros!
>
Goat would make a pretty crappy gyro.

[cjcampbell]

On Sep 5, 5:42 pm, Jay Honeck > wrote:
> > So if some mechanics have had a particularly tough time on an aircraft and
> > have a hankering for goat curry, a quick sacrifice on the tarmac wouldn't
> > surprise me one bit. Our driver when we lived there sacrificed a goat to
> > our Mercedes once a year.
>
> It's always surprising to me that there are still people in the world
> who believe that killing an animal will help...anything, outside of
> hunger.
>

I believe it is standard practice to eat the goats after they have
been sacrificed.

> I wonder what they think is holding the airplane up, so high in the
> sky?

I was reading the September issue of National Geographic where a
college professor in Pakistan (trained in nuclear technology at MIT)
attempted to explain to *graduate* students the forces behind the
Kashmir earthquake. Hands went up all over the room: "You are wrong,
professor. It was the will of Allah." This is modern science as it is
taught in most of the world. Earthquakes are not caused by moving
tectonic plates; they are allowed by Allah to punish the wicked.

Why wouldn't you expect people to sacrifice goats to ensure that the
maintenance was good? We still hit ships with bottles of champagne. In
America, there are thousands of astrologers for every astronomer. I
would like to think we are better or more enlightened than some of the
darker corners of the world, but if we are, it ain't by much.

Of course, this is all written by a guy who sincerely believes that
Jesus Christ appeared to the American Indians 2000 years ago... I am
well aware that people make fun of my religious beliefs, too. That is
fine with me; I am well aware of how ridiculous they seem. That said,
I am not inclined to make fun others' religious beliefs -- until those
beliefs start to interfere with my right to worship as I please and my
right to gain enlightenment through scientific investigation.

[Montblack]

("Matt Barrow" wrote)
> Goat would make a pretty crappy gyro.


You should be skewered for lambasting a perfectly good goat joke.


Paul-Mont

[Jon Woellhaf]

"cjcampbell" wrote
....
> Of course, this is all written by a guy who sincerely believes that
> Jesus Christ appeared to the American Indians 2000 years ago...
....

Impossible! There were no American Indians 2000 years ago. <g>

[Montblack]

("cjcampbell" wrote)
> Of course, this is all written by a guy who sincerely believes that Jesus
> Christ appeared to the American Indians 2000 years ago...


"So, my thanks to all of you, and now, it's on to The Holy Land, and let's
win there."


Paul-Mont

[Roger (K8RI)]

On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:28:21 -0700, Jay Honeck >
wrote:

>KATHMANDU (Reuters) - Officials at Nepal's state-run airline have
>sacrificed two goats to appease Akash Bhairab, the Hindu sky god,
>following technical problems with one of its Boeing 757 aircraft, the
>carrier said Tuesday.
>
>I wonder what the Boeing service manual says about this?
>
Wash the flight deck aftwards.

>:-)

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("Matt Barrow" wrote)
>> Goat would make a pretty crappy gyro.
>
>
> You should be skewered for lambasting a perfectly good goat joke.
>

I feel sheepish for presenting it.

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

"Clark" > wrote in message
...
> "Jon Woellhaf" > wrote in
> :
>
>> "cjcampbell" wrote
>> ...
>>> Of course, this is all written by a guy who sincerely believes that
>>> Jesus Christ appeared to the American Indians 2000 years ago...
>> ...
>>
>> Impossible! There were no American Indians 2000 years ago. <g>
>>
>>
>
> Ya, the first Indians were manufactured in 1901 or so...


He shoulda appeared to the Cleveland Indians...boy, they need all the help
they can get.

[Jay Honeck]

> Of course, this is all written by a guy who sincerely believes that
> Jesus Christ appeared to the American Indians 2000 years ago...

You believe *what*?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[S Green]

"Matt Barrow" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Montblack" > wrote in message
> ...
>> ("Jay Honeck" wrote)
>>> KATHMANDU (Reuters) - Officials at Nepal's state-run airline have
>>> sacrificed two goats to appease Akash Bhairab, the Hindu sky god,
>>> following technical problems with one of its Boeing 757 aircraft, the
>>> carrier said Tuesday.
>>>
>>> I wonder what the Boeing service manual says about this?
>>
>>
>> You're ......<wait for it> ......"kidding", right?
>>
>> BTW, sacrificing two goats is the accepted procedure for fixing...
>>
>> ....<wait for it>.... gyros!
>>
> Goat would make a pretty crappy gyro.

Goat is just the right thing for gyros
>
>

[S Green]

"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "S Green" > wrote:
>
>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>> > KATHMANDU (Reuters) - Officials at Nepal's state-run airline have
>> > sacrificed two goats to appease Akash Bhairab, the Hindu sky god,
>> > following technical problems with one of its Boeing 757 aircraft, the
>> > carrier said Tuesday.
>> >
>> > I wonder what the Boeing service manual says about this?
>>
>> depends on who or what you worship - a lot worse has been sacrificed in
>> the
>> name of money.
>
> I think you meant to say "a lot of money has been sacrificed for a lot
> worse."

No I meant what I wrote - people are sacrificed all the time for money as
the sub prime debacle has shown

[S Green]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>> So if some mechanics have had a particularly tough time on an aircraft
>> and
>> have a hankering for goat curry, a quick sacrifice on the tarmac wouldn't
>> surprise me one bit. Our driver when we lived there sacrificed a goat to
>> our Mercedes once a year.
>
> It's always surprising to me that there are still people in the world
> who believe that killing an animal will help...anything, outside of
> hunger.
>
It always surprises me that killing people will help....anything. Why limit
the compassion at animals.

[S Green]

"cjcampbell" > wrote in message
oups.com...
I
> would like to think we are better or more enlightened than some of the
> darker corners of the world, but if we are, it ain't by much.

and not by much either - "In god we trust" on the back of a banknote -weird.

[Marco Leon]

"cjcampbell" > wrote in message
ps.com...

> Eh, why not sacrifice a couple of goats? I know plenty of Christians
> who pray before a flight. Who am I to criticize another man's
> religion?

Because by praying, you're trying to effect outcomes of the unknown or
things that you have little control over. It would be like praying for your
engine to fix itself as opposed to having a certified A&P look at it.

Marco

[cjcampbell]

On Sep 6, 10:51 am, "Marco Leon" > wrote:
> "cjcampbell" > wrote in message
>
> ps.com...
>
> > Eh, why not sacrifice a couple of goats? I know plenty of Christians
> > who pray before a flight. Who am I to criticize another man's
> > religion?
>
> Because by praying, you're trying to effect outcomes of the unknown or
> things that you have little control over. It would be like praying for your
> engine to fix itself as opposed to having a certified A&P look at it.

So? The Nepalese had a certified A&P fix their plane, too. They are
not Christian Scientists, you know. :-)

[Gig 601XL Builder]

Marco Leon wrote:
> "cjcampbell" > wrote in message
> ps.com...
>
>> Eh, why not sacrifice a couple of goats? I know plenty of Christians
>> who pray before a flight. Who am I to criticize another man's
>> religion?
>
> Because by praying, you're trying to effect outcomes of the unknown or
> things that you have little control over. It would be like praying
> for your engine to fix itself as opposed to having a certified A&P
> look at it.
> Marco

Is there anything in the story about the goats that states that the airline
isn't taking other actions?

[cjcampbell]

On Sep 5, 8:28 am, Jay Honeck > wrote:
> KATHMANDU (Reuters) - Officials at Nepal's state-run airline have
> sacrificed two goats to appease Akash Bhairab, the Hindu sky god,
> following technical problems with one of its Boeing 757 aircraft, the
> carrier said Tuesday.
>

Which has, apparently, made them the *butt* of many jokes. It is only
natural that the sky god would want to horn in.

But maybe there was a better reason for sacrificing the goats. The way
I herd it, the maintenance crew came out to find that someone had been
chewing on the wiring of the Boeing plane. They lined up all the
suspects: the goats, a Brahman bull, and some chickens. The only
witness was a rabbit, so they trotted him down the line. The rabbit
stopped at the goats and nodded at them. The goats nervously claimed
that they didn't do it, but the crewman said, "Hare's looking at you,
kid."

And now, since I will be banned for a few days -- see you all
later. :-)

[John Ousterhout[_2_]]

Jay Honeck wrote:
> KATHMANDU (Reuters) - Officials at Nepal's state-run airline have
> sacrificed two goats to appease Akash Bhairab, the Hindu sky god,
> following technical problems with one of its Boeing 757 aircraft, the
> carrier said Tuesday.
>
> I wonder what the Boeing service manual says about this?


AC 43.14, p. 8976(b)

1 A&P = 4 CFIs.
1 CFI = 4 cows.
1 cow = 4 goats.
1 goat = 4 chickens.
1 chicken = 4 rats.
1 rat = 4 trolls.

- J.O.-

[Gig 601XL Builder]

While we're on the funny things foreign airlines do. From Wikipedia...

"The origins of Olympic Airways was in 1930, when the first predecessor
airline was established. The airline was called Icarus but after just a few
months went bankrupt due to financial problems and limited Greek interest in
air transport."

They named an airline after Icarus and it failed. What a surprise.

[[email protected]]

>
> Of course, this is all written by a guy who sincerely believes that
> Jesus Christ appeared to the American Indians 2000 years ago... I am
> well aware that people make fun of my religious beliefs, too. That is
> fine with me; I am well aware of how ridiculous they seem. That said,
> I am not inclined to make fun others' religious beliefs -- until those
> beliefs start to interfere with my right to worship as I please and my
> right to gain enlightenment through scientific investigation.

Well said, its funny that a lot of Hindus (especially those that are
vegetarian) would be appalled by acts of animal sacrifice. I think in
this particular case more Hindus would take offense than anybody else
other than maybe PETA..

[Ash Wyllie]

Gig 601XL Builder opined

>While we're on the funny things foreign airlines do. From Wikipedia...

>"The origins of Olympic Airways was in 1930, when the first predecessor
>airline was established. The airline was called Icarus but after just a few
>months went bankrupt due to financial problems and limited Greek interest in
>air transport."

>They named an airline after Icarus and it failed. What a surprise.

One presumes that Daedelus Airways would have been a great success. Except for
the maze in the terminal...



-ash
Cthulhu in 2007!
Why wait for nature?

[[email protected]]

On Sep 6, 12:32 pm, "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net>
wrote:
> While we're on the funny things foreign airlines do. From Wikipedia...
>
> "The origins of Olympic Airways was in 1930, when the first predecessor
> airline was established. The airline was called Icarus but after just a few
> months went bankrupt due to financial problems and limited Greek interest in
> air transport."
>
> They named an airline after Icarus and it failed. What a surprise.

They flew too high and melted the wax from their wings...

[Kloudy via AviationKB.com]

Montblack wrote:
>>
>> I wonder what the Boeing service manual says about this?
>
>You're ......<wait for it> ......"kidding", right?
>
>BTW, sacrificing two goats is the accepted procedure for fixing...
>
>....<wait for it>.... gyros!
>
>Paul-Mont :-)

OMFG!
ow...ouch...ow

no really, those are pretty good

--
Message posted via http://www.aviationkb.com

[Kloudy via AviationKB.com]

Jay Honeck wrote:
>KATHMANDU (Reuters) - Officials at Nepal's state-run airline have
>sacrificed two goats

Hmmm. Gate Gourmet.

Better than pretzels?

--
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[B A R R Y]

On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:56:46 +0100, "S Green"
> wrote:

>
>Goat is just the right thing for gyros
>

I'm ready to sacrifice something for an intermittent radio issue.

What's the group suggest for radios?

I have cats and a guinea pig. I can buy others, if need be.

[Jay Honeck]

> No I meant what I wrote - people are sacrificed all the time for money as
> the sub prime debacle has shown- Hide quoted text -

People who couldn't afford to buy a home willingly signed papers
making them liable for debts they knew they couldn't possibly repay.

Other than stupidity on all sides, I don't see anyone being
sacrificed. Everyone is getting precisely what they deserve.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
s.com...
>> No I meant what I wrote - people are sacrificed all the time for money as
>> the sub prime debacle has shown- Hide quoted text -
>
> People who couldn't afford to buy a home willingly signed papers
> making them liable for debts they knew they couldn't possibly repay.
>
> Other than stupidity on all sides, I don't see anyone being
> sacrificed. Everyone is getting precisely what they deserve.
Quite.

Every one signs the HUD-1 form and hopefully did their homework before
getting their loans.

Unfortunately, most people invest a lot more time and effort when buying
their cars then they do when buying their homes.

The lenders, though, we often quick to loan to NINJAs: No Income, no job or
assets.

OTOH, to refuse them a loan was to incur the wrath of various
special-interest groups.
--
Matt Barrow
Performance Homes, LLC.
Cheyenne, WY

[[email protected]]

B A R R Y > wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:56:46 +0100, "S Green"
> > wrote:
>> Goat is just the right thing for gyros
>
> I'm ready to sacrifice something for an intermittent radio issue.
>
> What's the group suggest for radios?

Definitely a cat. Attributed to Albert Einstein:

< You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull
< his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you
< understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send
< signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that
< there is no cat.

Matt Roberds

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

"Some Other Guy" > wrote in message
...
>B A R R Y wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:56:46 +0100, "S Green"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Goat is just the right thing for gyros
>>>
>>
>> I'm ready to sacrifice something for an intermittent radio issue.
>>
>> What's the group suggest for radios?
>
> Speaking as a Ham Radio operator, I suggest a pig.

To appease the Islamics, shouldn't that pig be kosher?

[Jon Woellhaf]

Matt Roberds wrote:
> Definitely [sacrifice] a cat [to appease the radio gods].

Even though I like cats, I have to agree. However, for transponder problems
a parrot is preferred.

> Attributed to Albert Einstein:
>
> You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull
> his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you
> understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send
> signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that
> there is no cat.

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Some Other Guy" > wrote

> Speaking as a Ham Radio operator, I suggest a pig.

Yes, and after it has been sacrificed on a 200 degree fire, with plenty of
moisture and hickory chips present for 12 hours, it should be pulled apart,
limb to limb.

While cleaning up from the sacrifice, if the pork that is pulled happens to
fall into some tomato product with spices, or some vinegar and spices, do
NOT put it into your mouth. <g>

Some hushpuppies and slaw will help to keep your experience balanced, and
make the sacrifice worthy.
--
Jim in NC

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

"Jon Woellhaf" > wrote in message
. ..
> Matt Roberds wrote:
>> Definitely [sacrifice] a cat [to appease the radio gods].
>
> Even though I like cats, I have to agree. However, for transponder
> problems a parrot is preferred.
>
I thought you use a parrot when you have a faulty ATIS system.

[Larry Dighera]

On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:38:33 -0700, cjcampbell
> wrote in
m>:

>I know plenty of Christians who pray before a flight.
>Who am I to criticize another man's religion?

You are an educated and enlightened, rational thinking person?