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September 7th 07, 07:41 PM
U.S. Navy 'Top Gun' pilot, Commander Ralph Kolstad, started
questioning the official account of 9/11 within days of the event. It
just didn't make any sense to me, he said. And now 6 years after 9/11
he says, When one starts using his own mind, and not what one was
told, there is very little to believe in the official story.

Now retired, Commander Kolstad was a top-rated fighter pilot during
his 20-year Navy career. Early in his career, he was accorded the
honor of being selected to participate in the Navy's Top Gun' air
combat school, officially known as the U.S. Navy Fighter Weapons
School. The Tom Cruise movie, Top Gun reflects the experience of the
young Navy pilots at the school. Eleven years later, Commander Kolstad
was further honored by being selected to become a Top Gun' adversary
instructor. While in the Navy, he flew F-4 Phantoms, A-4 Skyhawks, and
F-14 Tomcats and completed 250 aircraft carrier landings.

Commander Kolstad had a second career after his 20 years of Navy
active and reserve service and served as a commercial airline pilot
for 27 years, flying for American Airlines and other domestic and
international careers. He flew Boeing 727, 757 and 767, McDonnell
Douglas MD-80, and Fokker F-100 airliners. He has flown a total of
over 23,000 hours in his career.

Commander Kolstad is especially critical of the account of American
Airlines Flight 77 that allegedly crashed into the Pentagon. He says,
At the Pentagon, the pilot of the Boeing 757 did quite a feat of
flying. I have 6,000 hours of flight time in Boeing 757's and 767's
and I could not have flown it the way the flight path was described.

Commander Kolstad adds, I was also a Navy fighter pilot and Air Combat
Instructor and have experience flying low altitude, high speed
aircraft. I could not have done what these beginners did. Something
stinks to high heaven!'

He points to the physical evidence at the Pentagon impact site and
asks in exasperation, Where is the damage to the wall of the Pentagon
from the wings' Where are the big pieces that always break away in an
accident' Where is all the luggage' Where are the miles and miles of
wire, cable, and lines that are part and parcel of any large aircraft'
Where are the steel engine parts' Where is the steel landing gear'
Where is the tail section that would have broken into large pieces'?

But no major element of the official account of 9/11 is spared from
Commander Kolstad's criticism. Regarding the alleged impact site of
United Airlines Flight 93 near Shanksville, PA, he asks, Where is any
of the wreckage' Of all the pictures I have seen, there is only a
hole! Where is any piece of a crashed airplane' Why was the area
cordoned off, and no inspection allowed by the normal accident
personnel' Where is any evidence at all'?

Commander Kolstad also questions many aspects of the attack on the
World Trade Center. How could a steel and concrete building collapse
after being hit by a Boeing 767' Didn't the engineers design it to
withstand a direct hit from a Boeing 707, approximately the same size
and weight of the 767' The evidence just doesn't add up."

"Why did the second building collapse before the first one, which had
been burning for 20 minutes longer after a direct hit, especially when
the second one hit was just a glancing blow' If the fire was so hot,
then why were people looking out the windows and in the destroyed
areas' Why have so many members of the New York Fire Department
reported seeing or hearing many explosions' before the buildings
collapsed'?

Commander Kolstad summarized his frustration with the investigation
and disbelief of the official account of 9/11, If one were to act as
an accident investigator, one would look at the evidence, and then
construct a plausible scenario as to what led to the accident. In this
case, we were told the story and then the evidence was built to
support the story. What happened to any intelligent investigation'
Every question leads to another question that has not been answered by
anyone in authority. This is just the beginning as to why I don't
believe the official story' and why I want the truth to be told.?

Commander Kolstad is just one of the many military and commercial
pilots who have publicly expressed serious concerns about the official
account of 9/11. Statements from more than 30 other pilots are
available at http://PatriotsQuestion911.com .

www.patriotsquestion911.com

Find out watch Alex Jones's Terrorstorm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947

http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/us_navy_top_gun_pilot_questions_911.htm

Gig 601XL Builder
September 7th 07, 08:27 PM
wrote:
> U.S. Navy 'Top Gun' pilot, Commander Ralph Kolstad, started
> questioning the official account of 9/11 within days of the event.

Are the drug stores running low on these guy's meds or is it just because we
are close to 9/11/07?

Paul kgyy
September 7th 07, 08:33 PM
On Sep 7, 2:27 pm, "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net>
wrote:
> wrote:
> > U.S. Navy 'Top Gun' pilot, Commander Ralph Kolstad, started
> > questioning the official account of 9/11 within days of the event.
>
> Are the drug stores running low on these guy's meds or is it just because we
> are close to 9/11/07?

Naw, people stop taking the meds when they feel OK, thinking they
don't need them any more.

Orval Fairbairn
September 7th 07, 08:41 PM
In article >,
"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote:

> wrote:
> > U.S. Navy 'Top Gun' pilot, Commander Ralph Kolstad, started
> > questioning the official account of 9/11 within days of the event.
>
> Are the drug stores running low on these guy's meds or is it just because we
> are close to 9/11/07?

A retired Navy guy, then commercial airline pilot and only 6,000 hours?

I don't think so!

george
September 7th 07, 09:49 PM
On Sep 8, 8:00 am, Bob Moore > wrote:
> Orval Fairbairn wrote
>
> > A retired Navy guy, then commercial airline pilot and only 6,000
> > hours?
>
> I read it as 23,00 hours.
>

I'd suggest the onset of senile dementia and deference to
unprovenanced authority

Morgans[_2_]
September 7th 07, 09:53 PM
"Gig 601XL Builder" > wrote
>
> Are the drug stores running low on these guy's meds or is it just because
> we are close to 9/11/07?

Hey, I ran into a nutcase like this guy, a couple weeks ago while waiting
for an oil change. They really believe all this stuff.

The sad thing is, that there are meds that could make their lives close to
normal. They won't see anyone about them, because they don't think anything
is wrong with them; it is the rest of the world.

My nutcase is of the opinion that there never were any moon landings, also.

I had always heard about people like that, and now I have met one. Wow.
Wow.
--
Jim in NC

Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe
September 8th 07, 12:06 AM
"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Gig 601XL Builder" > wrote
>>
>> Are the drug stores running low on these guy's meds or is it just because
>> we are close to 9/11/07?
>
> Hey, I ran into a nutcase like this guy, a couple weeks ago while waiting
> for an oil change. They really believe all this stuff.
>
> The sad thing is, that there are meds that could make their lives close to
> normal. They won't see anyone about them, because they don't think
> anything is wrong with them; it is the rest of the world.
>
> My nutcase is of the opinion that there never were any moon landings,
> also.
>
> I had always heard about people like that, and now I have met one. Wow.
> Wow.
>

Hey! I work with that guy!!!

Other than some strange ideas like that (and ghosts, and perpetual
motion...), he seems to be fairly bright and does good work.

Go figure.

But I do wonder if this "Ralph Kolstad" really even exists and/or actually
said what he is alleged to have said...

--
Geoff
The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
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B A R R Y
September 8th 07, 12:41 AM
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:41:47 -0400, Orval Fairbairn
> wrote:
>
>A retired Navy guy, then commercial airline pilot and only 6,000 hours?
>

He took lots of vacation time. <G>

Paul kgyy
September 8th 07, 02:52 AM
On Sep 7, 6:06 pm, "Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk at wow way
d0t com> wrote:
> "Morgans" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Gig 601XL Builder" > wrote
>
> >> Are the drug stores running low on these guy's meds or is it just because
> >> we are close to 9/11/07?
>
> > Hey, I ran into a nutcase like this guy, a couple weeks ago while waiting
> > for an oil change. They really believe all this stuff.
>
> > The sad thing is, that there are meds that could make their lives close to
> > normal. They won't see anyone about them, because they don't think
> > anything is wrong with them; it is the rest of the world.
>
> > My nutcase is of the opinion that there never were any moon landings,
> > also.
>
> > I had always heard about people like that, and now I have met one. Wow.
> > Wow.
>
> Hey! I work with that guy!!!
>
> Other than some strange ideas like that (and ghosts, and perpetual
> motion...), he seems to be fairly bright and does good work.
>
> Go figure.

Well, there's an old joke about a guy who had a flat tire going past
the asylum, pulled the wheel off and accidentally kicked the nuts into
the storm drain. While he was cussing himself out for being so
stupid, one of the inmates said, "Just take one nut off each of the
other wheels and you can secure it well enough to get to the service
station." Driver says, "Hey that's pretty smart - how come you're in
this place?" Inmate: "Well, I may be crazy, but I'm not stupid".

Matt Barrow[_4_]
September 8th 07, 03:22 AM
> wrote in message
oups.com...

> Commander Kolstad is especially critical of the account of American
> Airlines Flight 77 that allegedly crashed into the Pentagon. He says,
> At the Pentagon, the pilot of the Boeing 757 did quite a feat of
> flying. I have 6,000 hours of flight time in Boeing 757's and 767's
> and I could not have flown it the way the flight path was described.

Military and airline pilots are not taught (or used to) flying suicide dive
bomber flight paths.

Sounds like Commander Kolstad can't differentiate between was he WOULDN'T do
and what he COULD do.

Matt Barrow[_4_]
September 8th 07, 03:27 AM
"george" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> On Sep 8, 8:00 am, Bob Moore > wrote:
>> Orval Fairbairn wrote
>>
>> > A retired Navy guy, then commercial airline pilot and only 6,000
>> > hours?
>>
>> I read it as 23,00 hours.
>>
>
> I'd suggest the onset of senile dementia and deference to
> unprovenanced authority

Agreed.

I notice there's no mention of this guy, spending that last several years of
his career as an airborne bus driver (and not possibly craving some EOL
attention), having any training/experience as an accident investigator. Even
an accident investigator would have a lot added to his workload trying to
decipher the actions of a suicidal "pilot".

Orval Fairbairn
September 8th 07, 03:30 AM
In article om>,
Paul kgyy > wrote:

> On Sep 7, 6:06 pm, "Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk at wow way
> d0t com> wrote:
> > "Morgans" > wrote in message
> >
> > ...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > "Gig 601XL Builder" > wrote
> >
> > >> Are the drug stores running low on these guy's meds or is it just because
> > >> we are close to 9/11/07?
> >
> > > Hey, I ran into a nutcase like this guy, a couple weeks ago while waiting
> > > for an oil change. They really believe all this stuff.
> >
> > > The sad thing is, that there are meds that could make their lives close to
> > > normal. They won't see anyone about them, because they don't think
> > > anything is wrong with them; it is the rest of the world.
> >
> > > My nutcase is of the opinion that there never were any moon landings,
> > > also.
> >
> > > I had always heard about people like that, and now I have met one. Wow.
> > > Wow.
> >
> > Hey! I work with that guy!!!
> >
> > Other than some strange ideas like that (and ghosts, and perpetual
> > motion...), he seems to be fairly bright and does good work.
> >
> > Go figure.
>
> Well, there's an old joke about a guy who had a flat tire going past
> the asylum, pulled the wheel off and accidentally kicked the nuts into
> the storm drain. While he was cussing himself out for being so
> stupid, one of the inmates said, "Just take one nut off each of the
> other wheels and you can secure it well enough to get to the service
> station." Driver says, "Hey that's pretty smart - how come you're in
> this place?" Inmate: "Well, I may be crazy, but I'm not stupid".

But -- the "911 Truthers" happen to be BOTH crazy AND stupid!

Matt Barrow[_4_]
September 8th 07, 03:30 AM
"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com> wrote in message
...
>
> Hey! I work with that guy!!!
>
> Other than some strange ideas like that (and ghosts, and perpetual
> motion...), he seems to be fairly bright and does good work.
>
> Go figure.
>
> But I do wonder if this "Ralph Kolstad" really even exists and/or actually
> said what he is alleged to have said...

I suspect you're right and this Kolstad is like those "combat veterans" that
testified for various anti-war groups, only to be found to have never been
outside the US or never even have served in the military in any capacity.

James Sleeman
September 8th 07, 04:22 AM
On Sep 8, 8:53 am, "Morgans" > wrote:
> Hey, I ran into a nutcase like this guy, a couple weeks ago while waiting
> for an oil change. They really believe all this stuff.

Almost as bad as people who believe everything they are told by the
officials/media.

Most the stuff conspiracy theorists spout is gibberish, but people
should be careful to dismiss *everything*, because at some point, they
probably hit on a few pertinant holes in the official record of
things.

B A R R Y
September 8th 07, 11:41 AM
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 19:22:15 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
> wrote:
>
>Sounds like Commander Kolstad can't differentiate between was he WOULDN'T do
>and what he COULD do.
>

Or shouldn't. Does a suicide hijacker care if he overstresses an
airframe?

Matt Barrow[_4_]
September 9th 07, 01:59 AM
"B A R R Y" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 19:22:15 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
> > wrote:
>>
>>Sounds like Commander Kolstad can't differentiate between was he WOULDN'T
>>do
>>and what he COULD do.
>>
>
> Or shouldn't. Does a suicide hijacker care if he overstresses an
> airframe?

I'm ten knots over Vmo...Allah be praised!!

Judah
September 9th 07, 03:22 AM
Richard Riley > wrote in
:

> I just read the transcript of Osama's new video.
>
> HE seems pretty sure that he did it.

According to the conspiracy theorists, Osama is a CIA Operative.

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