New student pilot

[Richard Carpenter]

Hello everyone. I've been hanging out in the MS Flight Simulator group
for a while, enjoying my recently found interest in aviation such that
my means would allow. MSFS is a fine product, even though it doesn't
compare to the real thing, of course.

Yesterday for my 40th birthday my most excellent wife bought me flying
lessons and membership in the flying club at a local airport.

I look forward to hanging out with you folks and hopefully learning a
thing or 2(00...000). :)

--
Rich

[Vaughn Simon]

"Richard Carpenter" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> I look forward to hanging out with you folks and hopefully learning a
> thing or 2(00...000). :)

Welcome!

Vaughn

[Dudley Henriques[_2_]]

Richard Carpenter wrote:
> Hello everyone. I've been hanging out in the MS Flight Simulator group
> for a while, enjoying my recently found interest in aviation such that
> my means would allow. MSFS is a fine product, even though it doesn't
> compare to the real thing, of course.
>
> Yesterday for my 40th birthday my most excellent wife bought me flying
> lessons and membership in the flying club at a local airport.
>
> I look forward to hanging out with you folks and hopefully learning a
> thing or 2(00...000). :)
>
> --
> Rich
>
Welcome aboard and congratulations on choosing such a fine bride. :-)
Please post here as you progress with your training. There are many
people here who will try and be of any assistance possible.
About actual dual instruction and Microsoft Flight Simulator; you might
gain some initial insight from an article I did for Simflight concerning
this exact issue.
You can find a link for that article at www.simflight.com on the main
page right margin.


--
Dudley Henriques

[Jay Honeck]

> Yesterday for my 40th birthday my most excellent wife bought me flying
> lessons and membership in the flying club at a local airport.

Welcome aboard, Rich!

Your wife sounds a lot like mine, except that when I wanted to take
flight lessons, I sent my wife up on the Discovery Flight, figuring
that if SHE got hooked, I'd be home free. And I was...

;-)

Four years after getting my ticket, she got hers -- and we've spent
the last 12 years exploring the continent by air. I hope you find as
much enjoyment and success flying as we have!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jeff[_1_]]

"Richard Carpenter" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Hello everyone. I've been hanging out in the MS Flight Simulator group
> for a while, enjoying my recently found interest in aviation such that
> my means would allow. MSFS is a fine product, even though it doesn't
> compare to the real thing, of course.
>
> Yesterday for my 40th birthday my most excellent wife bought me flying
> lessons and membership in the flying club at a local airport.
>
> I look forward to hanging out with you folks and hopefully learning a
> thing or 2(00...000). :)
>
> --
> Rich
>

AWESOME! Welcome to the group.

I spent many an hour flying MSFS. While you'll never learn to land in
there, start playing with the VOR and instrument navigation (if you haven't
already). You can learn TONS at penny's per hour that way.

I'm still mid-PPL training myself. Just got my medical straightend back out.
Take a look at my road from 0 hours till now at http://n1451f.blogspot.com

Have FUN!

jf

[john hawkins]

You're sport pilot instructor?
Please post about the check ride. I' working on mine and wonder how much is
really covered on the check ride and how precidse you have to be. In the
rear seat of the aircraft I fly, you can not see a single instrument.

"Russ and/or Martha Oppenheim" > wrote in message
...
> You've got a great wife! My husband got me into flying too, sort of
> accidentally. He gave me an intro flight in an ultralight for my birthday
> (60th, not 40th), thinking I'd go up and that would be the end of it.
> Well,
> no, it wasn't. I knew immediately I had to learn how to fly. So I took
> ultralight flight lessons, learned to fly ultralights, got my instructor's
> rating, and flew ULs for a few years. I bought both and single place UL
> and
> a 2-place trainer. Then decided to go for my Private Pilot's certificate,
> which I got when I was 67. I'm now 72, fly both ULs and small Cessnas
> (rented), and have the time of my life flying. Have a wonderful time
> learning to fly! Nothing is more fun! Blue skies and tail winds.
>
> Martha
>
> "Richard Carpenter" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>> Hello everyone. I've been hanging out in the MS Flight Simulator group
>> for a while, enjoying my recently found interest in aviation such that
>> my means would allow. MSFS is a fine product, even though it doesn't
>> compare to the real thing, of course.
>>
>> Yesterday for my 40th birthday my most excellent wife bought me flying
>> lessons and membership in the flying club at a local airport.
>>
>> I look forward to hanging out with you folks and hopefully learning a
>> thing or 2(00...000). :)
>>
>> --
>> Rich
>>
>
>

[Kevin Clarke]

Richard Carpenter wrote:
> Hello everyone. I've been hanging out in the MS Flight Simulator group
> for a while, enjoying my recently found interest in aviation such that
> my means would allow. MSFS is a fine product, even though it doesn't
> compare to the real thing, of course.
>
> Yesterday for my 40th birthday my most excellent wife bought me flying
> lessons and membership in the flying club at a local airport.
>
> I look forward to hanging out with you folks and hopefully learning a
> thing or 2(00...000). :)
>
>
Welcome aboard. Stick with your flight training, 2 or 3 flights a week
is best if you can fit it in, particularly at first. Enjoy your
training, but don't forget to look at the window once in a while and
just admire the view. It is the best seat in any house!

And buy your wife some flowers as a thank you. :-)

KC

[Zaroc Stone]

On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 01:16:39 -0000, Richard Carpenter
> wrote:

>Hello everyone. I've been hanging out in the MS Flight Simulator group
>for a while, enjoying my recently found interest in aviation such that
>my means would allow. MSFS is a fine product, even though it doesn't
>compare to the real thing, of course.
>
>Yesterday for my 40th birthday my most excellent wife bought me flying
>lessons and membership in the flying club at a local airport.
>
>I look forward to hanging out with you folks and hopefully learning a
>thing or 2(00...000). :)
>
To be sure to treat most excellent wife well. They cause many
break-ups between the pilot and his craft. My first was not
enthusiastic about flying. If we were going somewhere that was Ok,
but to fly around and visit the aviation community as I enjoyed, she
wasn't into it. After a Commercial rating, the next step was likely
our ending. She was never comfortable in the IFR enviroment. The last
ride was from Burwell, Nebraska to Denver. We had to either travel 3
hours around a squal line of thunderstorms or trust ATC who offered to
steer us through them. The cells were separated. I though the ride
was fantastic, passing through them and landing IFR at Stapleton
airport where we kept the Mooney. My wife was not impressed.

When we separated and was into the divorce mode, she once told me that
"her lawyer said" that there were 3 parts of the marriage; the house,
the airplane and the bills. She then related that I would get all the
bills, she gets the house and her lawyer gets the airplane. We owned
a 1967 Mooney S-21 at the time.

Well, that didn't happen quite that way. She lost her sanity and I
had to go after custody of the kids. I decided to give up flying
since the kids needed at least one parent who would be with them
through their growing up years. I raised both girls to age 16. The
oldest tried living with her once and that didn't last. The youngest
tried at 16 and managed to stay with her until she moved on as an
adult.

In 1977, I had accumulated just over 4000 hours of flight time. In
those years, I had published a number of "I learned about flying from
this" articles in every flying magazine but Flying Magazine. I miss
it, but the economy drove people in my income bracket away as it has
from Boating.

I wish you well and don't forget her. She's important but I know you
know all this.
Regards.....

[Peter R.]

On 9/8/2007 9:16:42 PM, Richard Carpenter wrote:

> Yesterday for my 40th birthday my most excellent wife bought me flying
> lessons and membership in the flying club at a local airport.

Congratulations. As Dudley requested, please post here your experiences,
impressions, and questions as you progress through your training. There are
some very experienced pilots who contribute to this group and would be very
happy to offer any assistance.

From what I read here over the years it is truly a blessing to have a
supportive wife. A lot are not (mine is). Return the favor to her by learning
all that is needed to become the safest pilot you possibly are able to be.
You and all of your potential passengers deserve this.

--
Peter

[Larry Dighera]

On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 01:16:39 -0000, Richard Carpenter
> wrote in
om>:

>
>Yesterday for my 40th birthday my most excellent wife bought me flying
>lessons and membership in the flying club at a local airport.
>
>I look forward to hanging out with you folks and hopefully learning a
>thing or 2(00...000). :)

Best of luck in pursuing your airmans certificate.

In addition to rec.aviation.piloting, you may find the
rec.aviation.student newsgroup useful also.

[Paul Riley]

"Peter R." > wrote in message
...
> On 9/8/2007 9:16:42 PM, Richard Carpenter wrote:
>
>> Yesterday for my 40th birthday my most excellent wife bought me flying
>> lessons and membership in the flying club at a local airport.
>
> Congratulations. As Dudley requested, please post here your experiences,
> impressions, and questions as you progress through your training. There
> are
> some very experienced pilots who contribute to this group and would be
> very
> happy to offer any assistance.
>
> From what I read here over the years it is truly a blessing to have a
> supportive wife. A lot are not (mine is). Return the favor to her by
> learning
> all that is needed to become the safest pilot you possibly are able to be.
> You and all of your potential passengers deserve this.
>
> --
> Peter

Hi Peter,

I have to say, that after 51 years, I definitely have a supportive wife.
Master US Army Aviator (retired). Two tours in Vietnam, 20 year Army career.
Still with me after all this time. Don't fly anymore, 72 years old, could
not pass a medical even if I bribed the Doc. :-))))

But I feel blessed she supported my dream of flying, and did everything she
could to make sure I stayed with it until I decided to call it quits. It
doesn't get any better than that.

Richard, hold on to that lady--you have a real gem there, and do let her
know what a gem she is. AND, on a daily basis--trust me, it is important.

Regards,
Paul

[David Kazdan]

All true--but does anyone have a better Cessna 172 than the one included
with FS X? I'm instrument rated and like using the program to practice
approaches; my wife is working on her instrument rating and is doing the
same. The 172 included is so pitch sensitive we both have a hard time
with it. Or perhaps we're setting our yoke wrong in some way, but I
haven't been able to figure it out.

David

Jeff wrote:
> "Richard Carpenter" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>> Hello everyone. I've been hanging out in the MS Flight Simulator group
>> for a while, enjoying my recently found interest in aviation such that
>> my means would allow. MSFS is a fine product, even though it doesn't
>> compare to the real thing, of course.
>>
>> Yesterday for my 40th birthday my most excellent wife bought me flying
>> lessons and membership in the flying club at a local airport.
>>
>> I look forward to hanging out with you folks and hopefully learning a
>> thing or 2(00...000). :)
>>
>> --
>> Rich
>>
>
> AWESOME! Welcome to the group.
>
> I spent many an hour flying MSFS. While you'll never learn to land in
> there, start playing with the VOR and instrument navigation (if you haven't
> already). You can learn TONS at penny's per hour that way.
>
> I'm still mid-PPL training myself. Just got my medical straightend back out.
> Take a look at my road from 0 hours till now at http://n1451f.blogspot.com
>
> Have FUN!
>
> jf
>
>

[Dallas]

On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:36:06 GMT, David Kazdan wrote:

> The 172 included is so pitch sensitive we both have a hard time
> with it.

If you fly with the "2D" cockpit then you'll like the Flight1 C172R,
especially for instrument training.

http://www.flight1.com/products.asp?product=esd172

If you fly MSFS from the "virtual cockpit", avoid this product!... They
screwed up the 3D model badly and the perspective out the windscreen is
terrible.

--
Dallas

[Morgans[_2_]]

"David Kazdan" > wrote in message
. net...
> All true--but does anyone have a better Cessna 172 than the one included
> with FS X? I'm instrument rated and like using the program to practice
> approaches; my wife is working on her instrument rating and is doing the
> same. The 172 included is so pitch sensitive we both have a hard time
> with it. Or perhaps we're setting our yoke wrong in some way, but I
> haven't been able to figure it out.

Please note that there is a simulator group, and this is not it.
--
Jim in NC

[David Kazdan]

OK, I'll try that one. Thanks.

David

Dallas wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:36:06 GMT, David Kazdan wrote:
>
>> The 172 included is so pitch sensitive we both have a hard time
>> with it.
>
> If you fly with the "2D" cockpit then you'll like the Flight1 C172R,
> especially for instrument training.
>
> http://www.flight1.com/products.asp?product=esd172
>
> If you fly MSFS from the "virtual cockpit", avoid this product!... They
> screwed up the 3D model badly and the perspective out the windscreen is
> terrible.
>

[Jeff[_1_]]

> "David Kazdan" > wrote in message
> . net...
>> All true--but does anyone have a better Cessna 172 than the one included
>> with FS X? I'm instrument rated and like using the program to practice
>> approaches; my wife is working on her instrument rating and is doing the
>> same. The 172 included is so pitch sensitive we both have a hard time
>> with it. Or perhaps we're setting our yoke wrong in some way, but I
>> haven't been able to figure it out.
>
> Please note that there is a simulator group, and this is not it.
> --
> Jim in NC

Yea, the threads in here NEVER go off topic.

[Dudley Henriques[_2_]]

Morgans wrote:
> "David Kazdan" > wrote in message
> . net...
>> All true--but does anyone have a better Cessna 172 than the one included
>> with FS X? I'm instrument rated and like using the program to practice
>> approaches; my wife is working on her instrument rating and is doing the
>> same. The 172 included is so pitch sensitive we both have a hard time
>> with it. Or perhaps we're setting our yoke wrong in some way, but I
>> haven't been able to figure it out.
>
> Please note that there is a simulator group, and this is not it.
Jim;
I've been advising both Microsoft and software developers on the flight
simulator for some time now. The program does have some legitimate uses
related to actual flight training and as such certain questions posed on
the pilot forums are pertinent.
What I've been doing is separating posters who post about the simulator
into two categories. The first is like the poster you are answering who
has asked a question pertaining to actual flying vs the simulator. I
believe this type of question is within the forum boundaries and
deserves our attention.
The other type of post, the one I consider NOT within our forum
parameters, are posts asking about or talking about the sim itself.
These are the people I attempt to steer to the simulator forums.
Bottom line is that there are many of our own forum pilots using the
Microsoft program and as long as a newbie approaches us with something
directed at a real world pilot, I would answer that and treat it as a
legitimate question for the forum.
Naturally this is just my read on this, and I wouldn't fault you for
taking your own approach but at least some of the sim posters come here
seeking a friendly response from us and asking pertinent questions. I
try and cut them a break whenever possible.
Dudley


--
Dudley Henriques

[Stella Starr]

Russ and/or Martha Oppenheim wrote:
I'm now 72, fly both ULs and small Cessnas
> (rented), and have the time of my life flying.

You go, girl!
Which do you like better?
I was switched (flight instructor roulette) from a 172 to a 152 halfway
through my PPL training, and found I liked the smaller plane better, at
least at the time I was learning. Have wondered ever since if an even
smaller ultralight would be more fun, or underpowered. Where do you fly
'em?

Stella

[Dallas]

On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 19:28:25 -0400, Morgans wrote:

> Please note that there is a simulator group, and this is not it.

I'm guessing that 70% of the pilots in this group have MSFS on their
computers and I'd bet most would say they use it to maintain proficiency.

I fail to see how this is off topic in any way.

Let's not let the troll whose name we shall not speak make us too sensitive
about the subject.

--
Dallas

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Dudley Henriques" <> wrote

> I've been advising both Microsoft and software developers on the flight
> simulator for some time now. The program does have some legitimate uses
> related to actual flight training and as such certain questions posed on
> the pilot forums are pertinent.
>
> I try and cut them a break whenever possible.

Note that I made a simple statement, also, (without flames, so to speak) and
I genuinely thought that he would get better help when it comes to getting
the simulator set up, over there.

If it came to "how to make the VOR work like it would in real life", then I
would think that this is the place to be.
--
Jim in NC

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Dallas" <> wrote

> I'm guessing that 70% of the pilots in this group have MSFS on their
> computers and I'd bet most would say they use it to maintain proficiency.
>
> I fail to see how this is off topic in any way.
>
> Let's not let the troll whose name we shall not speak make us too
> sensitive
> about the subject.

You are correct, about being too sensitive, because of "you know who."

I suppose there was a little of that going on, with my response. I'll try
not to be so quick to jump, next time.
--
Jim in NC

[Vaughn Simon]

"Russ and/or Martha Oppenheim" > wrote in message
...
> Actually, between the 152 and the 172 I also prefer the 152.

Me too! I come from the sailplane world and that may explain the
difference.

If I need to go somewhere or take someone along, I will probably rent a
172. But for proficiency flying or just making airplane-shaped holes in the
sky, I greatly prefer the 152.

Vaughn

[Ricky]

On Sep 10, 12:55 am, "Russ and/or Martha Oppenheim"
> wrote:

>The little airfield has hangars to rent, and also a
> flight school. Very convenient. When I fly GA I rent planes from a flight
> school at New Braunfels (Texas) Municipal Airport.
>
> Martha

Hi,

I'm in Waco (not too far north of New Braunfels) and have long desired
to fly an ultralight.
I did my initial private lessons at New Braunfels.
I'm wondering where in or near New Braunfels do you learn to fly and/
or rent an ultralight. What is the approx. cost per hour?

Thanks,

Ricky

[David Kazdan]

Everyone, everyone lighten up! I responded privately and there was no
offense taken.

I've had my certificate eight years now and trust me--everything I know
(well, an awful lot of it) came from the community of these news groups.

David


Morgans wrote:
> "Dallas" <> wrote
>
>> I'm guessing that 70% of the pilots in this group have MSFS on their
>> computers and I'd bet most would say they use it to maintain proficiency.
>>
>> I fail to see how this is off topic in any way.
>>
>> Let's not let the troll whose name we shall not speak make us too
>> sensitive
>> about the subject.
>
> You are correct, about being too sensitive, because of "you know who."
>
> I suppose there was a little of that going on, with my response. I'll try
> not to be so quick to jump, next time.