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mitcheroo
September 12th 07, 03:13 AM
Unless I'm missing something, the new Ikonos imagery for Google Earth
doesn't cover much.

It looks like a rectangular block of new imagery that is roughly 50
miles tall by 30 miles wide (with an additional 15 mile x 15 mile
block adjacent to the bottom of its SW corner). The Flying M Ranch is
centered on its eastern edge and about 4 miles west of said eastern
edge, so almost all of the new imagery is west of the Flying M's
longitude.

I thought the search area was in a 100-mile radius centered on the
Flying M Ranch runway?

At any rate, the kind of flat areas Fossett wanted to scout appear to
be found *east* of the Flying M, for the most part.

Montblack
September 12th 07, 07:36 AM
("mitcheroo" wrote)
> At any rate, the kind of flat areas Fossett wanted to scout appear to be
> found *east* of the Flying M, for the most part.


Yeah, *east* ...like on the Nevada/Utah border.

This has been bugging me since the first reports came out: If you want to
set a land speed record of some sort, what's wrong with using the Bonneville
Salt Flats? Why do you need to "scout" out other locations?


Paul-Mont
I was in Wendover, NV/UT this spring.
http://www.westwendovercity.com/flashvideo.html
Stay with the video - for some airport history.

Rolf Blom
September 12th 07, 12:57 PM
On 2007-09-12 08:36, Montblack wrote:
> ("mitcheroo" wrote)
>> At any rate, the kind of flat areas Fossett wanted to scout appear to be
>> found *east* of the Flying M, for the most part.
>
>
> Yeah, *east* ...like on the Nevada/Utah border.
>
> This has been bugging me since the first reports came out: If you want to
> set a land speed record of some sort, what's wrong with using the Bonneville
> Salt Flats? Why do you need to "scout" out other locations?
>

According to his own website, the plan was to go to Bonneville.
Something changed there, preventing the use of it?

A quote from his own site on 13th Aug:
http://www.stevefossett.com/

"Both driver and crew are eagerly looking forward to bringing the
turbojet-powered streamliner to the famed Boneville salt flats for a
series of shakedown tests beginning 26 September."

Rolf Blom
September 12th 07, 01:31 PM
On 2007-09-12 13:57, Rolf Blom wrote:
> On 2007-09-12 08:36, Montblack wrote:
>> ("mitcheroo" wrote)
>>> At any rate, the kind of flat areas Fossett wanted to scout appear to be
>>> found *east* of the Flying M, for the most part.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, *east* ...like on the Nevada/Utah border.
>>
>> This has been bugging me since the first reports came out: If you want to
>> set a land speed record of some sort, what's wrong with using the Bonneville
>> Salt Flats? Why do you need to "scout" out other locations?
>>
>
> According to his own website, the plan was to go to Bonneville.
> Something changed there, preventing the use of it?
>
> A quote from his own site on 13th Aug:
> http://www.stevefossett.com/
>
> "Both driver and crew are eagerly looking forward to bringing the
> turbojet-powered streamliner to the famed Boneville salt flats for a
> series of shakedown tests beginning 26 September."

Updated with the statement from 11th Sept on the same page:

Quote from site:
"It is now believed that Steve Fossett was unlikely to have ventured far
afield (such as crossing the Sierra Nevada range), but that he was more
likely to have been on a local pleasure flight - and that he probably
was not surveying sites for the upcoming landspeed record project.
Based on Steve's known movements, plans and the aircraft's capabilities,
the search is now primarily focused on a 30 - 50 mile radius of the
ranch, with some members of the search team convinced he is even closer.

The aircraft's last confirmed position on Monday (3 September) at
approximately 10:30 A.M. local time showed Steve west of Powell Canyon
(south of Walker Lake and southwest of Hawthorne), proceeding east
towards the canyon. This location is less than 30 miles SE from his
point of departure / expected arrival. Steve was expected to return to
the ranch around 11:00 - 11:30 AM. Although the Super Decathlon is
capable of good performance at sea level, the predicted aircraft speed
and climb rate must be adjusted down for the density altitude of this
area in summer."

donzaemon
September 13th 07, 01:16 PM
The Walker lake and Powell canyon area is not in the search area as well
.....
I gave up searching because those are the areas I wanted to look at.


> Updated with the statement from 11th Sept on the same page:
>
> Quote from site:
> "It is now believed that Steve Fossett was unlikely to have ventured far
> afield (such as crossing the Sierra Nevada range), but that he was more
> likely to have been on a local pleasure flight - and that he probably
> was not surveying sites for the upcoming landspeed record project.
> Based on Steve's known movements, plans and the aircraft's capabilities,
> the search is now primarily focused on a 30 - 50 mile radius of the
> ranch, with some members of the search team convinced he is even closer.
>
> The aircraft's last confirmed position on Monday (3 September) at
> approximately 10:30 A.M. local time showed Steve west of Powell Canyon
> (south of Walker Lake and southwest of Hawthorne), proceeding east
> towards the canyon. This location is less than 30 miles SE from his
> point of departure / expected arrival. Steve was expected to return to
> the ranch around 11:00 - 11:30 AM. Although the Super Decathlon is
> capable of good performance at sea level, the predicted aircraft speed
> and climb rate must be adjusted down for the density altitude of this
> area in summer."

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