Fossett Search

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To All:

I'm not involved with the SAR effort, other than hoping for a good
outcome, but I get a lot of mail, much of it from overseas and the
same questions keep popping up.

Where is the 'Flying M Ranch'?
Actually, there's quite a few of them. The one of interest here is
about twenty miles due west of the southern tip of Walker Lake.
That's about 40 air-miles south of the Yarrington airport; about 80
miles SE from Minden.

What was Mr. Fossett's destination?
I don't know. Previous land-speed runs have used dry lakes about a
hundred miles north of the Flying M ranch.

People in Europe often asked how an aircraft can vanish unless covered
by water or snow. There's no pat answer for that. Until they have
some search & rescue experience over that part of Nevada most people
simply have no concept of the problem. I've seen a Beechcraft
'Bonanza' crumpled into a ball you could fit into a pick-up truck. It
lay undiscovered for seven years within a thousand feet of a paved
road until exposed by a brush-fire that burned away the manzanita that
had concealed it from view.

Some of the questions stemmed from my articles on survival and desert
travel. I've re-posted them to my blog for those who are interested.

After ten days although logic my deem otherwise I say keep looking.
Never give up hope.

-R.S.Hoover

[George]

The majority of answers to your questions could be found at:
rec.aviation.soaring
George

> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> To All:
>
> I'm not involved with the SAR effort, other than hoping for a good
> outcome, but I get a lot of mail, much of it from overseas and the
> same questions keep popping up.
>
> Where is the 'Flying M Ranch'?
> Actually, there's quite a few of them. The one of interest here is
> about twenty miles due west of the southern tip of Walker Lake.
> That's about 40 air-miles south of the Yarrington airport; about 80
> miles SE from Minden.
>
> What was Mr. Fossett's destination?
> I don't know. Previous land-speed runs have used dry lakes about a
> hundred miles north of the Flying M ranch.
>
> People in Europe often asked how an aircraft can vanish unless covered
> by water or snow. There's no pat answer for that. Until they have
> some search & rescue experience over that part of Nevada most people
> simply have no concept of the problem. I've seen a Beechcraft
> 'Bonanza' crumpled into a ball you could fit into a pick-up truck. It
> lay undiscovered for seven years within a thousand feet of a paved
> road until exposed by a brush-fire that burned away the manzanita that
> had concealed it from view.
>
> Some of the questions stemmed from my articles on survival and desert
> travel. I've re-posted them to my blog for those who are interested.
>
> After ten days although logic my deem otherwise I say keep looking.
> Never give up hope.
>
> -R.S.Hoover
>

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On Sep 13, 12:09 am, " > wrote:
> To All:
>
> I'm not involved with the SAR effort, other than hoping for a good
> outcome, but I get a lot of mail, much of it from overseas and the
> same questions keep popping up.
>
> Where is the 'Flying M Ranch'?
> Actually, there's quite a few of them. The one of interest here is
> about twenty miles due west of the southern tip of Walker Lake.
> That's about 40 air-miles south of the Yarrington airport; about 80
> miles SE from Minden.
>
> What was Mr. Fossett's destination?
> I don't know. Previous land-speed runs have used dry lakes about a
> hundred miles north of the Flying M ranch.
>
> People in Europe often asked how an aircraft can vanish unless covered
> by water or snow. There's no pat answer for that. Until they have
> some search & rescue experience over that part of Nevada most people
> simply have no concept of the problem. I've seen a Beechcraft
> 'Bonanza' crumpled into a ball you could fit into a pick-up truck. It
> lay undiscovered for seven years within a thousand feet of a paved
> road until exposed by a brush-fire that burned away the manzanita that
> had concealed it from view.
>
> Some of the questions stemmed from my articles on survival and desert
> travel. I've re-posted them to my blog for those who are interested.
>
> After ten days although logic my deem otherwise I say keep looking.
> Never give up hope.
>
> -R.S.Hoover

A 72 year old woman survived for 14 days in the Willowa wildnerness
with a broken hip after getting lost near a broken down pickup. She
was found and rescued after being given up for dead.

If Fossett survived the crash and was able to locate a water source,
he could still be alive.

Dean

[Robert Loer]

Having ridden the area for years on dirt bikes including the Black Rock
Desert where the land speed record was once set it is easy for a plane to
disappear especially if there was fire and the fabric (hence the color) was
all gone. It could also disappear in Walker Lake or Pyramid lake.

Robert
> wrote in message
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> To All:
>
> I'm not involved with the SAR effort, other than hoping for a good
> outcome, but I get a lot of mail, much of it from overseas and the
> same questions keep popping up.
>
> Where is the 'Flying M Ranch'?
> Actually, there's quite a few of them. The one of interest here is
> about twenty miles due west of the southern tip of Walker Lake.
> That's about 40 air-miles south of the Yarrington airport; about 80
> miles SE from Minden.
>
> What was Mr. Fossett's destination?
> I don't know. Previous land-speed runs have used dry lakes about a
> hundred miles north of the Flying M ranch.
>
> People in Europe often asked how an aircraft can vanish unless covered
> by water or snow. There's no pat answer for that. Until they have
> some search & rescue experience over that part of Nevada most people
> simply have no concept of the problem. I've seen a Beechcraft
> 'Bonanza' crumpled into a ball you could fit into a pick-up truck. It
> lay undiscovered for seven years within a thousand feet of a paved
> road until exposed by a brush-fire that burned away the manzanita that
> had concealed it from view.
>
> Some of the questions stemmed from my articles on survival and desert
> travel. I've re-posted them to my blog for those who are interested.
>
> After ten days although logic my deem otherwise I say keep looking.
> Never give up hope.
>
> -R.S.Hoover
>

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On Sep 12, 11:09 pm, " > wrote:
> To All:
>
> I'm not involved with the SAR effort, other than hoping for a good
> outcome, but I get a lot of mail, much of it from overseas and the
> same questions keep popping up.
>
> Where is the 'Flying M Ranch'?
> Actually, there's quite a few of them. The one of interest here is
> about twenty miles due west of the southern tip of Walker Lake.
> That's about 40 air-miles south of the Yarrington airport; about 80
> miles SE from Minden.
>

Lat/Long from Google Earth:

38°36'42.03" N
119°00'5.67" W

Dave in San Diego

[cavelamb himself[_4_]]

I haven't heard a word on this subject in quite a while.

Anything happen?

[Morgans[_2_]]

"cavelamb himself" > wrote>I haven't heard a word on this subject in quite a
while.
>
> Anything happen?

No traces were found. The official search is over, unless new leads
develop.

It was reported that some private assets (friends) are still working on it,
but I don't know any details on that.
--
Jim in NC

[Harry K]

On Oct 24, 6:20 pm, "Morgans" > wrote:
> "cavelamb himself" > wrote>I haven't heard a word on this subject in quite a
> while.
>
>
>
> > Anything happen?
>
> No traces were found. The official search is over, unless new leads
> develop.
>
> It was reported that some private assets (friends) are still working on it,
> but I don't know any details on that.
> --
> Jim in NC

Last I heard was that they had found a possible "track". That was
from TV and I assume they were talking about a radar trace found by
searching archives. Nothing came of it that I heard.

Harry K