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[RustY©]

[pe.rhodes]

OMG, that looks like a gun! BTW, why is the roundel red in the center, but
on the tail, it's white in the center?


"RustY©" > wrote in message
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pe.rhodes wrote:

> why is the roundel red in the center, but
> on the tail, it's white in the center?

I don't see a roundel on the tail.

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[Mike Barnard]

On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:04:51 GMT, "RustY©" > wrote:

Zooming in, it looks as though there is loose paper in the face of the
rear seater. Just a reflection? Or is a map / notebook on the loose!
:)

[Bill newton]

Thats not a gun its a 30 mm cannon.these hawks are also used for weapon
training ase well as fast jet trainers . The markings are red ,white ,blue
in that order and on a roundel you read from the centre out

regards bill

[RustY©]

"Mike Barnard" > wrote in message
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> On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:04:51 GMT, "RustY©" > wrote:
>
> Zooming in, it looks as though there is loose paper in the face of the
> rear seater. Just a reflection? Or is a map / notebook on the loose!
> :)

From the original I can see that he is actually holding a couple of loose
sheets of something in his hand.

[Willem Van der Voort]

"pe.rhodes" > schreef in bericht
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> OMG, that looks like a gun! BTW, why is the roundel red in the center, but
> on the tail, it's white in the center?

British aircraft roundels were eventually designed to use the French colours
in reverse, red-white-blue from center to rim (see picture)
The flag on the tail is called Fin flash

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Air_Force

[RustY©]

"pe.rhodes" > wrote in message
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> OMG, that looks like a gun! BTW, why is the roundel red in the center, but
> on the tail, it's white in the center?

Are you confusing the RAF 'bars' with a roundel ?
RAF Roundels are explained here,,,,
http://www.homepages.mcb.net/bones/01UKAV/roundels/RAF_ROUNDELS.htm
About half way down the page within 'recent RAF markings' you'll find
training aircraft at the bottom of that section.

And take a look here for an explanation of the Hawk role (including cannon).
http://www.raf.mod.uk/equipment/hawk.cfm

[Andrew Chaplin]

"RustY©" > wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Barnard" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:04:51 GMT, "RustY©" > wrote:
>>
>> Zooming in, it looks as though there is loose paper in the face of the
>> rear seater. Just a reflection? Or is a map / notebook on the loose!
>> :)
>
> From the original I can see that he is actually holding a couple of loose
> sheets of something in his hand.

Air sickness bags? :^)
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[®i©ardo]

Willem Van der Voort wrote:
> "pe.rhodes" > schreef in bericht
> . ..
>> OMG, that looks like a gun! BTW, why is the roundel red in the center, but
>> on the tail, it's white in the center?
>
> British aircraft roundels were eventually designed to use the French colours
> in reverse, red-white-blue from center to rim (see picture)
> The flag on the tail is called Fin flash
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Air_Force
>
>
>
Do the French have a monopoly on the use of red, white and blue?

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[D. St-Sanvain]

Hello,

®i©ardo a écrit dans
. uk> :
> Willem Van der Voort wrote:
>> "pe.rhodes" > schreef in bericht
>> . ..
>>> OMG, that looks like a gun! BTW, why is the roundel red in the center, but
>>> on the tail, it's white in the center?
>>
>> British aircraft roundels were eventually designed to use the French
>> colours in reverse, red-white-blue from center to rim (see picture)
>> The flag on the tail is called Fin flash
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Air_Force

> Do the French have a monopoly on the use of red, white and blue?
The blue-white-red roundel is an old military and national insignia,
used for more than two centuries. This naturally led to its use during
WWI. Then the RFC chose the same pattern. I personally don't know if
this pattern is traditional and/or historical in GB.
Australia, New-Zealand, and Canada used a blue-white-red symbol
roundel.
Costa Rica has a roundel similar to the British one (same order of
colours); and the one of Paraguay looks like the French one.

USA used a blue white red one during WWI :
http://cocardes.monde.online.fr/v2html/en/photos/etatsunis_spad.html

Russia - :)) - once used a similar roundel, former Yougoslavian
provinces also have blue-white-red based roundels. Blue white and red
also are traditional colours of slavic nations.
Thailand has a unique different arrangement of the stripes.

Bye

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