VW derivative engine in Kitplanes-Help Please!

[Fonz]

Good Morning all.
A few months ago I saw a VW derivative engine in the front of the kitplanes
magazine, in the What's New section in the front. I have since misplaced
this magazine and can't remember the name of the maker/distributor. The
engine is based on the VW engine, but I think didn't actually use any VW
parts. It was basically an upgraded model of a previous version and had
distinctive red anodizing to some of the parts. I thought it was a Great
Planes angine but I checked their site and it's not.
Can anyone help me out here?
My appreciation in advance.
Rob
Melbourne Australia.

[JP[_1_]]

"Fonz" > wrote in ...
> Good Morning all.
> A few months ago I saw a VW derivative engine in the front of the
> kitplanes magazine, in the What's New section in the front. I have since
> misplaced this magazine and can't remember the name of the
> maker/distributor. The engine is based on the VW engine, but I think
> didn't actually use any VW parts. It was basically an upgraded model of a
> previous version and had distinctive red anodizing to some of the parts.
> I thought it was a Great Planes angine but I checked their site and it's
> not.
> Can anyone help me out here?
> My appreciation in advance.
> Rob
> Melbourne Australia.

I checked the What's New sections, but couldn't find that. Could it be this
one?
http://www.aeroconversions.com/
http://www.aeroconversions.com/aero_vee_2002.html
http://www.sonexaircraft.com/engines/engines.html

JP

[Rob Turk[_2_]]

"Fonz" > wrote in message
...
> Good Morning all.
> A few months ago I saw a VW derivative engine in the front of the
> kitplanes magazine, in the What's New section in the front. I have since
> misplaced this magazine and can't remember the name of the
> maker/distributor. The engine is based on the VW engine, but I think
> didn't actually use any VW parts. It was basically an upgraded model of a
> previous version and had distinctive red anodizing to some of the parts.
> I thought it was a Great Planes angine but I checked their site and it's
> not.
> Can anyone help me out here?
> My appreciation in advance.
> Rob
> Melbourne Australia.

Have not seen the kitplanes mag, but could it be a Limbach?
http://www.limflug.de/index.php?page=homepage&lang=eng

Rob

[Walter Kronester[_2_]]

Let me add this link:
http://www.sauer-flugmotorenbau.de/html/engines.html
Walter

[Reggie]

Fonz wrote:
> Good Morning all.
> A few months ago I saw a VW derivative engine in the front of the kitplanes
> magazine, in the What's New section in the front. I have since misplaced
> this magazine and can't remember the name of the maker/distributor. The
> engine is based on the VW engine, but I think didn't actually use any VW
> parts. It was basically an upgraded model of a previous version and had
> distinctive red anodizing to some of the parts. I thought it was a Great
> Planes angine but I checked their site and it's not.
> Can anyone help me out here?
> My appreciation in advance.
> Rob
> Melbourne Australia.


Go to the horses mouth.. so to speak....

http://www.kitplanes.com/magazine/

Magazine E- Library

http://www.kitplanes.com/issues/24_4/

Engine Beat by Tim kern

Or you can view the covers of all the
issues to jog your memory..

Click ON !!!!!!

Reggie

[et]

On Sep 15, 8:38 am, Reggie > wrote:
> Fonz wrote:
> > Good Morning all.
> > A few months ago I saw a VW derivative engine in the front of the kitplanes
> > magazine, in the What's New section in the front. I have since misplaced
> > this magazine and can't remember the name of the maker/distributor. The
> > engine is based on the VW engine, but I think didn't actually use any VW
> > parts. It was basically an upgraded model of a previous version and had
> > distinctive red anodizing to some of the parts. I thought it was a Great
> > Planes angine but I checked their site and it's not.
> > Can anyone help me out here?
> > My appreciation in advance.
> > Rob
> > Melbourne Australia.
>
> Go to the horses mouth.. so to speak....
>
> http://www.kitplanes.com/magazine/
>
> Magazine E- Library
>
> http://www.kitplanes.com/issues/24_4/
>
> Engine Beat by Tim kern
>
> Or you can view the covers of all the
> issues to jog your memory..
>
> Click ON !!!!!!
>
> Reggie

Try Revmaster Aviation, go to products, scroll down to under
development, click on. Engine is R 3000.
Ed

[cavelamb himself[_4_]]

Reggie wrote:
> Fonz wrote:
>
>>Good Morning all.
>>A few months ago I saw a VW derivative engine in the front of the kitplanes
>>magazine, in the What's New section in the front. I have since misplaced
>>this magazine and can't remember the name of the maker/distributor. The
>>engine is based on the VW engine, but I think didn't actually use any VW
>>parts. It was basically an upgraded model of a previous version and had
>>distinctive red anodizing to some of the parts. I thought it was a Great
>>Planes angine but I checked their site and it's not.
>>Can anyone help me out here?
>>My appreciation in advance.
>>Rob
>>Melbourne Australia.
>
>
>
> Go to the horses mouth.. so to speak....
>
> http://www.kitplanes.com/magazine/
>
> Magazine E- Library
>
> http://www.kitplanes.com/issues/24_4/
>
> Engine Beat by Tim kern
>
> Or you can view the covers of all the
> issues to jog your memory..
>
> Click ON !!!!!!
>
> Reggie
>

$7.50 pay per view???

[Reggie]

cavelamb himself wrote:
> Reggie wrote:
>
> > Go to the horses mouth.. so to speak....
> > http://www.kitplanes.com/magazine/
> > Magazine E- Library
> > http://www.kitplanes.com/issues/24_4/
> > Engine Beat by Tim kern
> >
> > Or you can view the covers of all the
> > issues to jog your memory..
> >
> > Click ON !!!!!!
> >
> > Reggie
>*****************************************
>cavelamb himself wrote:
> $7.50 pay per view???
>****************************************
Not to view the Covers..........
Nor to read the table of contents.....
Could help identify what he was trying to remember....
Jeeeeesssshhhh...
Rodger

[Fonz]

I checked this site and was very impressed about everything but one thing.
Price. At the current exchange rate it would cost me more than for a 914.
About two months ago it would have been a different story. We were getting
goos $s for the Euro.
Thanks,
Rob.
"Walter Kronester" <wkronester-remove-no-spam-please-{at}web.de> wrote in
message ...
> Let me add this link:
> http://www.sauer-flugmotorenbau.de/html/engines.html
> Walter
>
>

[Fonz]

Thanks to all who replied.
The engine was in-fact an aerovee and Reggie supplied the link.
Many thanks to all who replied.
Thinking of putting it in a CH701 with a woodcomp beta and reversible prop.
This could be the ultimate STOL setup.
Any opinions on that set-up.
Any feedback on these propellers.
Rob.

"Reggie" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> cavelamb himself wrote:
>> Reggie wrote:
>>
>> > Go to the horses mouth.. so to speak....
>> > http://www.kitplanes.com/magazine/
>> > Magazine E- Library
>> > http://www.kitplanes.com/issues/24_4/
>> > Engine Beat by Tim kern
>> >
>> > Or you can view the covers of all the
>> > issues to jog your memory..
>> >
>> > Click ON !!!!!!
>> >
>> > Reggie
>>*****************************************
>>cavelamb himself wrote:
>> $7.50 pay per view???
>>****************************************
> Not to view the Covers..........
> Nor to read the table of contents.....
> Could help identify what he was trying to remember....
> Jeeeeesssshhhh...
> Rodger
>

[cavelamb himself[_4_]]

Fonz wrote:
> Thanks to all who replied.
> The engine was in-fact an aerovee and Reggie supplied the link.
> Many thanks to all who replied.
> Thinking of putting it in a CH701 with a woodcomp beta and reversible prop.
> This could be the ultimate STOL setup.
> Any opinions on that set-up.
> Any feedback on these propellers.
> Rob.
>

Don't knw anythig about the propeller, but even a 2180 CC VW is going to
be kinda short on torque for two people.

How long is the prop you are looking at?


STOLs need THRUST for rapid acceleration.

Otherwise, it ain't STOL...


Richard

[Darrel Toepfer]

cavelamb himself > wrote:
> Fonz wrote:
>> Thanks to all who replied.
>> The engine was in-fact an aerovee and Reggie supplied the link.
>> Many thanks to all who replied.
>> Thinking of putting it in a CH701 with a woodcomp beta and reversible
>> prop. This could be the ultimate STOL setup.
>> Any opinions on that set-up.
>> Any feedback on these propellers.
>> Rob.
>
> Don't knw anythig about the propeller, but even a 2180 CC VW is going
> to be kinda short on torque for two people.
>
> How long is the prop you are looking at?
>
> STOLs need THRUST for rapid acceleration.
>
> Otherwise, it ain't STOL...

I've seen one listed on Barnstormers with an A-75hp, course he didn't
claim STOL, but several with Rotax 912's did...

That Limbach turbo'd watercooled boxer looked really nice though...
http://www.limflug.de/index.php?page=products_motors_75-
125kw_L2400DTX&lang=eng

[J.Kahn]

Fonz wrote:
> Thanks to all who replied.
> The engine was in-fact an aerovee and Reggie supplied the link.
> Many thanks to all who replied.
> Thinking of putting it in a CH701 with a woodcomp beta and reversible prop.
> This could be the ultimate STOL setup.
> Any opinions on that set-up.
> Any feedback on these propellers.
> Rob.
>
> "Reggie" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>> cavelamb himself wrote:
>>> Reggie wrote:
>>>
>>>> Go to the horses mouth.. so to speak....
>>>> http://www.kitplanes.com/magazine/
>>>> Magazine E- Library
>>>> http://www.kitplanes.com/issues/24_4/
>>>> Engine Beat by Tim kern
>>>>
>>>> Or you can view the covers of all the
>>>> issues to jog your memory..
>>>>
>>>> Click ON !!!!!!
>>>>
>>>> Reggie
>>> *****************************************
>>> cavelamb himself wrote:
>>> $7.50 pay per view???
>>> ****************************************
>> Not to view the Covers..........
>> Nor to read the table of contents.....
>> Could help identify what he was trying to remember....
>> Jeeeeesssshhhh...
>> Rodger
>>
>
>
For that application, you are better off with a Jabiru.

John

[clare at snyder.on.ca]

On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:10:07 -0400, "J.Kahn"
> wrote:

>Fonz wrote:
>> Thanks to all who replied.
>> The engine was in-fact an aerovee and Reggie supplied the link.
>> Many thanks to all who replied.
>> Thinking of putting it in a CH701 with a woodcomp beta and reversible prop.
>> This could be the ultimate STOL setup.
>> Any opinions on that set-up.
>> Any feedback on these propellers.
>> Rob.
>>
>> "Reggie" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>>> cavelamb himself wrote:
>>>> Reggie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Go to the horses mouth.. so to speak....
>>>>> http://www.kitplanes.com/magazine/
>>>>> Magazine E- Library
>>>>> http://www.kitplanes.com/issues/24_4/
>>>>> Engine Beat by Tim kern
>>>>>
>>>>> Or you can view the covers of all the
>>>>> issues to jog your memory..
>>>>>
>>>>> Click ON !!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Reggie
>>>> *****************************************
>>>> cavelamb himself wrote:
>>>> $7.50 pay per view???
>>>> ****************************************
>>> Not to view the Covers..........
>>> Nor to read the table of contents.....
>>> Could help identify what he was trying to remember....
>>> Jeeeeesssshhhh...
>>> Rodger
>>>
>>
>>
>For that application, you are better off with a Jabiru.
>
>John
The BEST engine setup for a 701 is still the venerable 80 HP 912
Rotax. vw derivatives are by definition "ground hogs" - Sustained HP
too low for their weight.
A soo or VW makes a 701 into a single seater (which is fine if
registered as a basic ultralight in Canada as no passengers are
allowed in that configuration)

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

[cavelamb himself[_4_]]

clare at snyder.on.ca wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:10:07 -0400, "J.Kahn"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Fonz wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks to all who replied.
>>>The engine was in-fact an aerovee and Reggie supplied the link.
>>>Many thanks to all who replied.
>>>Thinking of putting it in a CH701 with a woodcomp beta and reversible prop.
>>>This could be the ultimate STOL setup.
>>>Any opinions on that set-up.
>>>Any feedback on these propellers.
>>>Rob.
>>>
>>>"Reggie" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>>>
>>>>cavelamb himself wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Reggie wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Go to the horses mouth.. so to speak....
>>>>>>http://www.kitplanes.com/magazine/
>>>>>>Magazine E- Library
>>>>>>http://www.kitplanes.com/issues/24_4/
>>>>>>Engine Beat by Tim kern
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Or you can view the covers of all the
>>>>>>issues to jog your memory..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Click ON !!!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Reggie
>>>>>
>>>>>*****************************************
>>>>>cavelamb himself wrote:
>>>>>$7.50 pay per view???
>>>>>****************************************
>>>>
>>>>Not to view the Covers..........
>>>>Nor to read the table of contents.....
>>>>Could help identify what he was trying to remember....
>>>>Jeeeeesssshhhh...
>>>>Rodger
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>For that application, you are better off with a Jabiru.
>>
>>John
>
> The BEST engine setup for a 701 is still the venerable 80 HP 912
> Rotax. vw derivatives are by definition "ground hogs" - Sustained HP
> too low for their weight.
> A soo or VW makes a 701 into a single seater (which is fine if
> registered as a basic ultralight in Canada as no passengers are
> allowed in that configuration)
>

I'd have to agree about the 912 being the perfect engine for a 701.
Man, whadda hoot that would be!

Richard

[Fonz]

"J.Kahn" > wrote in message
...
> Fonz wrote:
>> Thanks to all who replied.
>> The engine was in-fact an aerovee and Reggie supplied the link.
>> Many thanks to all who replied.
>> Thinking of putting it in a CH701 with a woodcomp beta and reversible
>> prop.
>> This could be the ultimate STOL setup.
>> Any opinions on that set-up.
>> Any feedback on these propellers.
>> Rob.
>>
>> "Reggie" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>>> cavelamb himself wrote:
>>>> Reggie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Go to the horses mouth.. so to speak....
>>>>> http://www.kitplanes.com/magazine/
>>>>> Magazine E- Library
>>>>> http://www.kitplanes.com/issues/24_4/
>>>>> Engine Beat by Tim kern
>>>>>
>>>>> Or you can view the covers of all the
>>>>> issues to jog your memory..
>>>>>
>>>>> Click ON !!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Reggie
>>>> *****************************************
>>>> cavelamb himself wrote:
>>>> $7.50 pay per view???
>>>> ****************************************
>>> Not to view the Covers..........
>>> Nor to read the table of contents.....
>>> Could help identify what he was trying to remember....
>>> Jeeeeesssshhhh...
>>> Rodger
>>>
>>
>>
> For that application, you are better off with a Jabiru.
>
> John
G'Day John.
I thought about that, and at 2.5x the price, it becomes very expensive.
Some say, you may not be happy with the sub Jabiru performance, but I would
be happy with what I have for the price.
Rob.
>

[Fonz]

<clare at snyder.on.ca> wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:10:07 -0400, "J.Kahn"
> > wrote:
>
>>Fonz wrote:
>>> Thanks to all who replied.
>>> The engine was in-fact an aerovee and Reggie supplied the link.
>>> Many thanks to all who replied.
>>> Thinking of putting it in a CH701 with a woodcomp beta and reversible
>>> prop.
>>> This could be the ultimate STOL setup.
>>> Any opinions on that set-up.
>>> Any feedback on these propellers.
>>> Rob.
>>>
>>> "Reggie" > wrote in message
>>> oups.com...
>>>> cavelamb himself wrote:
>>>>> Reggie wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Go to the horses mouth.. so to speak....
>>>>>> http://www.kitplanes.com/magazine/
>>>>>> Magazine E- Library
>>>>>> http://www.kitplanes.com/issues/24_4/
>>>>>> Engine Beat by Tim kern
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or you can view the covers of all the
>>>>>> issues to jog your memory..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Click ON !!!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reggie
>>>>> *****************************************
>>>>> cavelamb himself wrote:
>>>>> $7.50 pay per view???
>>>>> ****************************************
>>>> Not to view the Covers..........
>>>> Nor to read the table of contents.....
>>>> Could help identify what he was trying to remember....
>>>> Jeeeeesssshhhh...
>>>> Rodger
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>For that application, you are better off with a Jabiru.
>>
>>John
> The BEST engine setup for a 701 is still the venerable 80 HP 912
> Rotax. vw derivatives are by definition "ground hogs" - Sustained HP
> too low for their weight.
> A soo or VW makes a 701 into a single seater (which is fine if
> registered as a basic ultralight in Canada as no passengers are
> allowed in that configuration)
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


Again this boils down to price. Rotax engines in Australia are rediculously
expensive.
Rob.

[Fonz]

"Darrel Toepfer" > wrote in message
. 18...
> cavelamb himself > wrote:
>> Fonz wrote:
>>> Thanks to all who replied.
>>> The engine was in-fact an aerovee and Reggie supplied the link.
>>> Many thanks to all who replied.
>>> Thinking of putting it in a CH701 with a woodcomp beta and reversible
>>> prop. This could be the ultimate STOL setup.
>>> Any opinions on that set-up.
>>> Any feedback on these propellers.
>>> Rob.
>>
>> Don't knw anythig about the propeller, but even a 2180 CC VW is going
>> to be kinda short on torque for two people.
>>
>> How long is the prop you are looking at?
>>
>> STOLs need THRUST for rapid acceleration.
>>
>> Otherwise, it ain't STOL...
>
> I've seen one listed on Barnstormers with an A-75hp, course he didn't
> claim STOL, but several with Rotax 912's did...
>
> That Limbach turbo'd watercooled boxer looked really nice though...
> http://www.limflug.de/index.php?page=products_motors_75-
> 125kw_L2400DTX&lang=eng

I can't read the site, but I recon that the price of that one would be more
expensive than the 914.
Does anyone know the price of the Limbach turbo? Also weight? I'd say it
would be getting up there.
Rob.

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Fonz" > wrote

> I can't read the site, but I recon that the price of that one would be
> more expensive than the 914.
> Does anyone know the price of the Limbach turbo? Also weight? I'd say it
> would be getting up there.

First, you have to be able to buy one.

I could be wrong, but isn't that one of those engines that has been ready
for release for the spring, for the past several years?
--
Jim in NC

[Lou]

Although I can't seem to find the company name,but
isn't there a company in Australia that specializes in
VW based engines? I'm pretty sure that I have been
on their website when I was looking for an engine.
Lou

[JP[_1_]]

"Lou" > wrote in
roups.com...
> Although I can't seem to find the company name,but
> isn't there a company in Australia that specializes in
> VW based engines? I'm pretty sure that I have been
> on their website when I was looking for an engine.
> Lou

Perhaps this one?
http://www.vw-engines.com/

JP