Anyone have a Piep Audio Vario?

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Subject says it all. Discussion in the Mechancal Vario thread led to
some suggesting that I should get an antique Piep Audio vario that
would plumb in with my current mechanical vario. I think they are
right, sounds like just what I need. Anyone have one laying around
they want to part with?

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On Sep 27, 10:39 am, wrote:
> Subject says it all. Discussion in the Mechancal Vario thread led to
> some suggesting that I should get an antique Piep Audio vario that
> would plumb in with my current mechanical vario. I think they are
> right, sounds like just what I need. Anyone have one laying around
> they want to part with?

If you can't find one, (or it turns out to be expensive) you might
try the Mallettec audio vario advertised in Soaring ($169.00). I have
one (sort of) and used it extensively when flying our club
Schweitzers. I loaned it to a very experienced guy in our club, and
he uses it all the time, and seems to like it. I broke my first one,
and the manufacturer replaced it for free.

Jim

[Bob Kuykendall]

> If you can't find one, (or it turns out to be expensive) you might
> try the Mallettec audio vario advertised in Soaring ($169.00)...

I think that the Mallettecs don't have a hose barb for static - if
that's true, you can't plumb a TE probe into it. I prefer audios to be
compensated, they are much more useful that way.

I'll see what Piep stuff I have left in the garage. I think I have a
broken one, it might be fixable or yield parts for another one.

Thanks, Bob K.

[Michael Ash]

Bob Kuykendall > wrote:
>
>> If you can't find one, (or it turns out to be expensive) you might
>> try the Mallettec audio vario advertised in Soaring ($169.00)...
>
> I think that the Mallettecs don't have a hose barb for static - if
> that's true, you can't plumb a TE probe into it. I prefer audios to be
> compensated, they are much more useful that way.

The Mallettec is very quiet. In the 1-26 I clip it to my hat in such a way
that it rests on my ears, otherwise I wouldn't be able to hear it. In a
better-sealed ship you could probably put it a *little* farther away, but
I think it would still have to be on your person somewhere, so that
connecting a hose to it would likely be impractical no matter what.

Even without TE compensation it's still much better than no audio,
especially in a 1-26 where the transition from cruise to thermalling speed
is short. I can see where compensation would be much handier in something
hat won't bleed off the energy so fast though.

--
Michael Ash
Rogue Amoeba Software

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On Sep 28, 10:06 am, Bob Kuykendall > wrote:
> > If you can't find one, (or it turns out to be expensive) you might
> > try the Mallettec audio vario advertised in Soaring ($169.00)...
>
> I think that the Mallettecs don't have a hose barb for static - if
> that's true, you can't plumb a TE probe into it. I prefer audios to be
> compensated, they are much more useful that way.
>
> I'll see what Piep stuff I have left in the garage. I think I have a
> broken one, it might be fixable or yield parts for another one.
>
> Thanks, Bob K.

bob you are right about the Mallettecs not having TE capability. Look
forward to hearing what you have, maybe I can Frankenstein a few of
them into a workable unit. thanks!

[Bob Kuykendall]

On Sep 28, 8:51 am, wrote:

> bob you are right about the Mallettecs not having TE capability. Look
> forward to hearing what you have, maybe I can Frankenstein a few of
> them into a workable unit. thanks!

Well, drat. The box I thought had a Piep in it actually contains the
four or so separate modules of an ancient Hornig electric vario
system. And some correspondence between Graham Thompson and Charles
Drew, who appears to have been the original purchaser. Charlie built
an HP-11 (N1954), and later I think an HP-18.

There's one more box of old instruments up at the shop, if you send me
a reminder email next Friday I'll check that next weekend.

Thanks, Bob K.

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A Hornig vario! That brings back memories. Never flew with one but it was said to be pretty advanced/high-tech in its day. Like the Crossfell vario before it.

I did fly with a PIEP for a number of years and it worked well.

Chip Bearden
ASW 24 "JB"
U.S.A.

[Michael Opitz]

At 17:28 09 November 2015, wrote:
>A Hornig vario! That brings back memories. Never flew with one but
it was
>said to be pretty advanced/high-tech in its day. Like the Crossfell
vario
>before it.
>
>I did fly with a PIEP for a number of years and it worked well.
>
>Chip Bearden
>ASW 24 "JB"
>U.S.A.
>
I have a Piep plumbed together with a Sage CV, and I still use it.
Bought it new back in the late 1970's. It's my primary audio,
and with the Sage, works as a back-up for failure of the main glider
computer....... I also have a main battery with sometimes two back up
batteries, thanks to having a main (and only) battery fail on me at the
1985 WGC in Rieti. -- That was not a good day, and I learned an
important lesson there....

Mike Opitz
RO
USA

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Although a quite a bit more expensive, the LXNAV Nano 3 makes a great portable vario plus you get a backup IGC certified flight logger just in case you lose power to everything else. The moving map will help you find your way home too. I leave mine turned on with the audio muted and connected to a 5 Volt Mini USB port powered from the ship's main battery so it's always fully charged. It's velcroed out of site behind my Oudie. I also take it with me when not flying my ship as it logs and stores all of my flights making filling out the logbook at the end of the season easy.


On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 9:00:08 AM UTC-6, Michael Opitz wrote:
> At 17:28 09 November 2015, wrote:
> >A Hornig vario! That brings back memories. Never flew with one but
> it was
> >said to be pretty advanced/high-tech in its day. Like the Crossfell
> vario
> >before it.
> >
> >I did fly with a PIEP for a number of years and it worked well.
> >
> >Chip Bearden
> >ASW 24 "JB"
> >U.S.A.
> >
> I have a Piep plumbed together with a Sage CV, and I still use it.
> Bought it new back in the late 1970's. It's my primary audio,
> and with the Sage, works as a back-up for failure of the main glider
> computer....... I also have a main battery with sometimes two back up
> batteries, thanks to having a main (and only) battery fail on me at the
> 1985 WGC in Rieti. -- That was not a good day, and I learned an
> important lesson there....
>
> Mike Opitz
> RO
> USA

[shkdriver]

On Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 12:39:10 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> Subject says it all. Discussion in the Mechancal Vario thread led to
> some suggesting that I should get an antique Piep Audio vario that
> would plumb in with my current mechanical vario. I think they are
> right, sounds like just what I need. Anyone have one laying around
> they want to part with?

I have a rico device that does this, new old stock, never installed, with solder connectors
I paid $100, I'd give it up for that.
Scott Williams
N1521