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Zomby Woof
September 30th 07, 10:22 PM

octothorpe
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42 Tons of air per minute. At that rate it could stay aloft for ~15
minutes. That's assuming a 14.7 to 1 air to fuel ratio.

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adelsonsl
October 1st 07, 01:00 AM
pretty cool dude!!1
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> 42 Tons of air per minute. At that rate it could stay aloft for ~15
> minutes. That's assuming a 14.7 to 1 air to fuel ratio.
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Rolf T. Kappe
October 1st 07, 03:43 AM
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:48:14 GMT, "octothorpe"
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> 42 Tons of air per minute. At that rate it could stay aloft for ~15
>minutes. That's assuming a 14.7 to 1 air to fuel ratio.
All of which shows that a TF-39 engine has a lot higher air to fuel
ratio. There is no particular reason for a jet engine to fully
combust the oxygen in the air, which is where that 14.7 figure comes
from. Secondly, the TF-39 has a bypass ratio of 8 to 1, meaning 8
times as much air goes around the hot section as through it, and never
gets combusted at all.
Try
http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/ngnsim.html
(especially the CF6 model)
If you play with this, you can see a jet engine at full power could
could have a air fuel ratio of 60. With the 8:1 bypass ratio, the
overall number could be 540. This would give an answer of about nine
hours at full power.

--Rolf

octothorpe
October 1st 07, 10:55 AM
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>> 42 Tons of air per minute. At that rate it could stay aloft for ~15
>>minutes. That's assuming a 14.7 to 1 air to fuel ratio.

> All of which shows that a TF-39 engine has a lot higher air to fuel
> ratio. There is no particular reason for a jet engine to fully
> combust the oxygen in the air, which is where that 14.7 figure comes
> from. Secondly, the TF-39 has a bypass ratio of 8 to 1, meaning 8
> times as much air goes around the hot section as through it, and never
> gets combusted at all.
> Try
> http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/ngnsim.html
> (especially the CF6 model)
> If you play with this, you can see a jet engine at full power could
> could have a air fuel ratio of 60. With the 8:1 bypass ratio, the
> overall number could be 540. This would give an answer of about nine
> hours at full power.
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> --Rolf

I suspected there would be a problem with the calculation. I completely
forgot about "bypass".
Thank you for the informed answer and the URL. That looks especially
interesting.

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Tom

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