Boeing gives Chicago $10-million

[Larry Dighera]

In light of Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley's March 31, 2003 illegal
midnight raid on Meigs Airport
<http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2003/03-1-157x.html> which
resulted in the closing of the airport and FAA fines for the city,
this is a little ironic:



Boeing Donates $10 Million to Science Education at Chicago Museums

CHICAGO, Oct. 02, 2007 -- The Boeing Company [NYSE: BA] is
contributing
$10 million to support science education for Chicago area youth.

The donation will be split equally between Chicago's Adler Planetarium
and the Museum of Science and Industry where the money will be used to
create educational exhibits and programming that will inspire young
people to pursue careers in areas associated with science and
technology.

Rick Stephens, Boeing senior vice president, Human Resources and
Administration, joined Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley in announcing
the education investment during the kick-off event of Science in the
City, a series of city-wide events that invite residents to experience
various fields of science and raise awareness of its importance to
Chicago's past, present and future. Boeing is among the sponsors of
the events.

"Boeing is pleased to be able to support these two great Chicago
institutions in their continuing efforts to educate, engage and
motivate children to explore the world around them, and the stars
above," said Stephens. "This investment will help ensure our future
workforce is inspired to launch the next generation of discoveries,
innovations and inventions in the areas of science, math and
technology."

At the Museum of Science and Industry, Boeing's gift will help create
an innovative exhibition that will invite museum guests to experience
events in historical and present-day exploration. Scheduled to open in
2011, the new exhibition also will provide educational programming and
information about career paths. The gift to the Adler will help fund
the development of new exhibitions geared to young visitors and
families as well as an endowment to support science and math education
initiatives at the planetarium.

"Boeing is a long-standing leader in the areas of innovation and
exploration so we are especially honored and humbled by their generous
support. Their gift will have a significant impact on the Museum's
vision to motivate and inspire our children to achieve their full
potential in the areas of science, technology, engineering and
medicine," said David Mosena, president and CEO of the Museum of
Science and Industry.

"In the years ahead, the Adler will inspire the next generation of
explorers," said Paul H. Knappenberger Jr., president of the Adler
Planetarium. "We are especially grateful to Boeing for a commitment to
motivating young people to understand the important role science and
math will play in their futures."

The two contributions complete a capital investment plan in Chicago
announced in 2005 with grants to The Boeing Galleries in Millennium
Park and the Muntu African Dance Theatre's Performing Arts Center to
be constructed in the Bronzeville neighborhood on Chicago's South
Side. These capital investments complement Boeing's ongoing global
corporate citizenship program in Chicago, which continues to emphasize
investment in programs that focus on innovation, collaboration and
diversity.

[john hawkins]

I hope Airbus kicks their butt

"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
...
>
> In light of Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley's March 31, 2003 illegal
> midnight raid on Meigs Airport
> <http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2003/03-1-157x.html> which
> resulted in the closing of the airport and FAA fines for the city,
> this is a little ironic:
>
>
>
> Boeing Donates $10 Million to Science Education at Chicago Museums

snip
>

[Margy Natalie]

Larry Dighera wrote:
>
> In light of Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley's March 31, 2003 illegal
> midnight raid on Meigs Airport
> <http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2003/03-1-157x.html> which
> resulted in the closing of the airport and FAA fines for the city,
> this is a little ironic:
>
>
>
> Boeing Donates $10 Million to Science Education at Chicago Museums

Chicago MUSEUMS not Chicago. Although I personally would like to the
Mayor tarred and feathered I don't think donating $$ to the museums in
the area to encourage science education is a bad thing.

Margy
>
> CHICAGO, Oct. 02, 2007 -- The Boeing Company [NYSE: BA] is
> contributing
> $10 million to support science education for Chicago area youth.
>
> The donation will be split equally between Chicago's Adler Planetarium
> and the Museum of Science and Industry where the money will be used to
> create educational exhibits and programming that will inspire young
> people to pursue careers in areas associated with science and
> technology.
>
> Rick Stephens, Boeing senior vice president, Human Resources and
> Administration, joined Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley in announcing
> the education investment during the kick-off event of Science in the
> City, a series of city-wide events that invite residents to experience
> various fields of science and raise awareness of its importance to
> Chicago's past, present and future. Boeing is among the sponsors of
> the events.
>
> "Boeing is pleased to be able to support these two great Chicago
> institutions in their continuing efforts to educate, engage and
> motivate children to explore the world around them, and the stars
> above," said Stephens. "This investment will help ensure our future
> workforce is inspired to launch the next generation of discoveries,
> innovations and inventions in the areas of science, math and
> technology."
>
> At the Museum of Science and Industry, Boeing's gift will help create
> an innovative exhibition that will invite museum guests to experience
> events in historical and present-day exploration. Scheduled to open in
> 2011, the new exhibition also will provide educational programming and
> information about career paths. The gift to the Adler will help fund
> the development of new exhibitions geared to young visitors and
> families as well as an endowment to support science and math education
> initiatives at the planetarium.
>
> "Boeing is a long-standing leader in the areas of innovation and
> exploration so we are especially honored and humbled by their generous
> support. Their gift will have a significant impact on the Museum's
> vision to motivate and inspire our children to achieve their full
> potential in the areas of science, technology, engineering and
> medicine," said David Mosena, president and CEO of the Museum of
> Science and Industry.
>
> "In the years ahead, the Adler will inspire the next generation of
> explorers," said Paul H. Knappenberger Jr., president of the Adler
> Planetarium. "We are especially grateful to Boeing for a commitment to
> motivating young people to understand the important role science and
> math will play in their futures."
>
> The two contributions complete a capital investment plan in Chicago
> announced in 2005 with grants to The Boeing Galleries in Millennium
> Park and the Muntu African Dance Theatre's Performing Arts Center to
> be constructed in the Bronzeville neighborhood on Chicago's South
> Side. These capital investments complement Boeing's ongoing global
> corporate citizenship program in Chicago, which continues to emphasize
> investment in programs that focus on innovation, collaboration and
> diversity.
>
>
>

[Larry Dighera]

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:21:03 -0400, Margy Natalie >
wrote in >:

>Chicago MUSEUMS not Chicago.

Are you suggesting that the city of Chicago is not the de facto
owner[1] of the museums to which Boeing has given $10-million?

>Although I personally would like to [see] the
>Mayor tarred and feathered I don't think donating $$ to the museums in
>the area to encourage science education is a bad thing.

Is it your naiveté or your museum employment that blinds you to the
irony of the world's largest _aircraft_ manufacturer contributing a
large sum of cash to Daley (however indirectly), who ordered the Meigs
runways bulldozed in the dead of night[2]?

It is only you questioning whether the millions of dollars will be
used for good or not. But beside the irony, given Daley's hubris and
the city of Chicago's reputation for corruption[3] it is conceivable
that funds may be diverted from their intended recipients.

Beyond that, what do you think may be a reason Boeing chose Chicago
(Boeing's corporate headquarters since 2001) museums instead of say
the Smithsonian? Given Boeing's recent history of revolving CEOs, the
Druyan criminal corruption exposé[4], and the questioning of Boeing's
ethics by one of their recently retired chief engineers[5], is it not
conceivable that this public display of corporate philanthropy may
belie collusion?




[1]
http://www.adlerplanetarium.org/aboutus/index.shtml
The Adler Planetarium thanks the State of Illinois Public Museum
Capital Grants Program administered through the Illinois
Department of Natural Resources and the Illinois State Museum for
its continuing generous support of facility expansion and
improvement projects.

The Adler also gratefully acknowledges the generous support it
receives from the Chicago Park District on behalf of the citizens
of Chicago. [It was the Chicago Park District who bulldozed
Meigs.]


http://www.msichicago.org/info/vtm/about.html
The Museum of Science and Industry is supported in part through
the generosity of the people of Chicago through the Chicago Park
District.




[2] http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2003/03-1-157x.html
Mayor Daley bulldozes Chicago's Meigs Field

Update: Mar. 31, 2003 — Sneaking in under the cover of darkness,
city of Chicago construction crews began tearing up the runway at
Meigs Field this morning at about 1:30 a.m. There was no advance
warning, not even to the FAA. Some 16 aircraft are stranded on the
field. A city source told the Chicago media that the "airport is
closed for good" for "homeland security reasons."

"We are absolutely shocked and dismayed," said AOPA President Phil
Boyer. "Mayor Daley has no honor and his word has no value. The
sneaky way he did this shows that he knows it was wrong."



http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=busav&id=news/MEIGS09256.xml
The Federal Aviation Administration last week ordered the city of
Chicago to repay $1 million the agency claims was illegally
diverted to demolish Meigs Field and restore the land where the
airport formerly operated on the shore of Lake Michigan just
minutes away from Chicago's business district. In a settlement
reached Monday following years of legal action, FAA also fined the
city $33,000, the maximum possible, for failing to provide advance
notice of its plans to close the airport. As part of the
settlement, the city denies wrongdoing.

The city of Chicago permanently closed the lakefront airport after
Mayor Richard Daley ordered in bulldozers to rip up the runway
without notice in the dark of night March 30, 2003 ...

Congress has since increased the applicable fines from $1,100 per
day to $10,000 per day, making it "much more painful for another
city to attempt a midnight airport raid." Congress also now
requires notice of proposed closures to be published in the
Federal Register.




[3] http://www.avweb.com/news/atis/181839-1.html
Did anyone happen to look at the staggeringly high level of
corruption in Chicago city government? Where other U.S. cities are
running surpluses, Chicago keeps increasing its city taxes and
fees because of the kickbacks, payoffs and scams. Your employees
will rapidly discover that every city construction project costs
about 30 percent more than in other places because the contracts
only go to Mayor Daley's pals, whether they are low bidder or not.
You'll find that 20 inches of concrete for an expressway is really
15 inches, but you'll get to pay for 20 inches.




[4]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-weissman/the-boeing-scandal-after-_b_24783.html
Both of the instances of Boeing's wrongdoing involved major
offenses against the U.S. government and U.S. taxpayers. They both
involved projects of considerable importance to Boeing. And in
both cases the company's conduct was extraordinarily egregious;
these were not failures to comply with arcane rules, but theft of
a competitor's proprietary data to facilitate bid-rigging and a
quid pro quo arrangement with a government contracting officer to
facilitate a massive government overpayment for a weapons system
of very questionable benefit.


http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/dec2003/boeg-d17.shtml
Top officials in the Bush administration—including the president
himself—are implicated in the expanding scandal surrounding
airplane manufacturer and defense contractor Boeing. The case
provides a revealing glimpse into the extent to which US military
policy is subordinated to brazen profiteering by defense
contractors and the government officials who enjoy their
patronage.




[5] http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2007/09/17/2003889769.pdf

[[email protected]]

On Oct 4, 6:30 am, Larry Dighera > wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:21:03 -0400, Margy Natalie >
> wrote in >:
>[i]
> >ChicagoMUSEUMS notChicago.
>
> Are you suggesting that the city ofChicagois not the de facto
> owner[1] of the museums to which Boeing has given $10-million?
>
> >Although I personally would like to [see] the
> >Mayor tarred and feathered I don't think donating $$ to the museums in
> >the area to encourage science education is a bad thing.
>
> Is it your naiveté or your museum employment that blinds you to the
> irony of the world's largest _aircraft_ manufacturer contributing a
> large sum of cash to Daley (however indirectly), who ordered the Meigs
> runways bulldozed in the dead of night[2]?
>
> It is only you questioning whether the millions of dollars will be
> used for good or not. But beside the irony, given Daley's hubris and
> the city ofChicago'sreputation for corruption[3] it is conceivable
> that funds may be diverted from their intended recipients.
>
> Beyond that, what do you think may be a reason Boeing choseChicago
> (Boeing's corporate headquarters since 2001) museums instead of say
> the Smithsonian? Given Boeing's recent history of revolving CEOs, the
> Druyan criminal corruption exposé[4], and the questioning of Boeing's
> ethics by one of their recently retired chief engineers[5], is it not
> conceivable that this public display of corporate philanthropy may
> belie collusion?
>
> [1]
> http://www.adlerplanetarium.org/aboutus/index.shtml
> The Adler Planetarium thanks the State of Illinois Public Museum
> Capital Grants Program administered through the Illinois
> Department of Natural Resources and the Illinois State Museum for
> its continuing generous support of facility expansion and
> improvement projects.
>
> The Adler also gratefully acknowledges the generous support it
> receives from theChicagoPark District on behalf of the citizens
> ofChicago.
>
> http://www.msichicago.org/info/vtm/about.html
> The Museum of Science and Industry is supported in part through
> the generosity of the people ofChicagothrough theChicagoPark
> District.
>
> [2]http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2003/03-1-157x.html
> Mayor Daley bulldozesChicago'sMeigs Field
>
> Update: Mar. 31, 2003 - Sneaking in under the cover of darkness,
> city ofChicagoconstruction crews began tearing up the runway at
> Meigs Field this morning at about 1:30 a.m. There was no advance
> warning, not even to the FAA. Some 16 aircraft are stranded on the
> field. A city source told theChicagomedia that the "airport is
> closed for good" for "homeland security reasons."
>
> "We are absolutely shocked and dismayed," said AOPA President Phil
> Boyer. "Mayor Daley has no honor and his word has no value. The
> sneaky way he did this shows that he knows it was wrong."
>
> http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=busa...
> The Federal Aviation Administration last week ordered the city of
> Chicagoto repay $1 million the agency claims was illegally
> diverted to demolish Meigs Field and restore the land where the
> airport formerly operated on the shore of Lake Michigan just
> minutes away fromChicago'sbusiness district. In a settlement
> reached Monday following years of legal action, FAA also fined the
> city $33,000, the maximum possible, for failing to provide advance
> notice of its plans to close the airport. As part of the
> settlement, the city denies wrongdoing.
>
> The city ofChicagopermanently closed the lakefront airport after
> Mayor Richard Daley ordered in bulldozers to rip up the runway
> without notice in the dark of night March 30, 2003 ...
>
> Congress has since increased the applicable fines from $1,100 per
> day to $10,000 per day, making it "much more painful for another
> city to attempt a midnight airport raid." Congress also now
> requires notice of proposed closures to be published in the
> Federal Register.
>
> [3]http://www.avweb.com/news/atis/181839-1.html
> Did anyone happen to look at the staggeringly high level of
> corruption inChicagocity government? Where other U.S. cities are
> running surpluses,Chicagokeeps increasing its city taxes and
> fees because of the kickbacks, payoffs and scams. Your employees
> will rapidly discover that every city construction project costs
> about 30 percent more than in other places because the contracts
> only go to Mayor Daley's pals, whether they are low bidder or not.
> You'll find that 20 inches of concrete for an expressway is really
> 15 inches, but you'll get to pay for 20 inches.
>
> [4]
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-weissman/the-boeing-scandal-afte...
> Both of the instances of Boeing's wrongdoing involved major
> offenses against the U.S. government and U.S. taxpayers. They both
> involved projects of considerable importance to Boeing. And in
> both cases the company's conduct was extraordinarily egregious;
> these were not failures to comply with arcane rules, but theft of
> a competitor's proprietary data to facilitate bid-rigging and a
> quid pro quo arrangement with a government contracting officer to
> facilitate a massive government overpayment for a weapons system
> of very questionable benefit.
>
> http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/dec2003/boeg-d17.shtml
> Top officials in the Bush administration-including the president
> himself-are implicated in the expanding scandal surrounding
> airplane manufacturer and defense contractor Boeing. The case
> provides a revealing glimpse into the extent to which US military
> policy is subordinated to brazen profiteering by defense
> contractors and the government officials who enjoy their
> patronage.
>
> [5]http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2007/09/17/2003889769.pdf

Baaa Waaa, Pampers are on sale at Target...JG
Ma-roonnn get over it already, use MDW

[Larry Dighera]

On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 10:01:53 -0700, wrote in
om>:

>get over it already,

So your solution to corruption, violation of laws by public servants,
and despotism is to fogetaboutit? How very cleaver of you. How long
did it take you to reach that insight? :-(

Unfortunately, it is the public's lack of recollection of past events
that enables this type of behavior. Connect the dots....

[[email protected]]

On Oct 20, 3:29 pm, Larry Dighera > wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 10:01:53 -0700, wrote in
> om>:
>
> >get over it already,
>
> So your solution to corruption, violation of laws by public servants,
> and despotism is to fogetaboutit? How very cleaver of you. How long
> did it take you to reach that insight? :-(
>
> Unfortunately, it is the public's lack of recollection of past events
> that enables this type of behavior. Connect the dots....

The only despotism at Meigs could have been the cushy fire station
jobs and Aviation Dept.
loafers. Landing fees didn't cover it so MDW is the winner.

Bilandic lost when he screwed up the snow plowing and Jane Byrne got
in, so the public will act on important screw ups...JG

"Park officials have also launched a framework plan for the use of
Northerly Island, the site of a bird hospital and the Charter One
concert pavilion. They approved a nearly $400,000 contract for JJR
LLC, a Michigan planning and design firm that completed a harbor study
for the district, to design conceptual plans for the site.....

Mayor Daley on Monday ruled out Navy Pier, Northerly Island and the
area surrounding McCormick Place as possible sites for a Chicago
casino.
Ever since Daley came out swinging in the fight to build a children's
museum in Grant Park, rumors have been swirling that Daley wants the
Chicago Children's Museum out of Navy Pier to make way for a casino.

When downtown Ald. Brendan Reilly (42nd) suggested Northerly Island as
an alternative site, the same casino speculation swirled around that
location.

On Monday, Daley attempted to put both rumors to rest.

"When we decided to do Navy Pier, people had rumors: 'Oh, there's
going to be a big gaming hall.' I don't know who's getting these
rumors out. This will never be a gaming facility. ... Navy Pier is for
families," Daley told a news conference at Navy Pier, where he is
hosting a "Hemispheric Forum" for mayors from North, Central and South
America."

[Margy Natalie]

wrote:
> On Oct 4, 6:30 am, Larry Dighera > wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:21:03 -0400, Margy Natalie >
>>wrote in >:
>>
>>
>>>ChicagoMUSEUMS notChicago.
>>
>>Are you suggesting that the city ofChicagois not the de facto
>>owner[1] of the museums to which Boeing has given $10-million?
>>
>>
>>>Although I personally would like to [see] the
>>>Mayor tarred and feathered I don't think donating $$ to the museums in
>>>the area to encourage science education is a bad thing.
>>
>>Is it your naiveté or your museum employment that blinds you to the
>>irony of the world's largest _aircraft_ manufacturer contributing a
>>large sum of cash to Daley (however indirectly), who ordered the Meigs
>>runways bulldozed in the dead of night[2]?
>>
>>It is only you questioning whether the millions of dollars will be
>>used for good or not. But beside the irony, given Daley's hubris and
>>the city ofChicago'sreputation for corruption[3] it is conceivable
>>that funds may be diverted from their intended recipients.
>>
>>Beyond that, what do you think may be a reason Boeing choseChicago
>>(Boeing's corporate headquarters since 2001) museums instead of say
>>the Smithsonian? Given Boeing's recent history of revolving CEOs, the
>>Druyan criminal corruption exposé[4], and the questioning of Boeing's
>>ethics by one of their recently retired chief engineers[5], is it not
>>conceivable that this public display of corporate philanthropy may
>>belie collusion?
>>

The main aviation hangar at the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center, NASM is now
known as the Boeing Aviation Hangar. Can you guess why? If I recall
correctly they gave the Air and Space Museum, Smithsonian, more than the
Chicago museums.
>>[1]
>> http://www.adlerplanetarium.org/aboutus/index.shtml
>> The Adler Planetarium thanks the State of Illinois Public Museum
>> Capital Grants Program administered through the Illinois
>> Department of Natural Resources and the Illinois State Museum for
>> its continuing generous support of facility expansion and
>> improvement projects.
>>
>> The Adler also gratefully acknowledges the generous support it
>> receives from theChicagoPark District on behalf of the citizens
>> ofChicago. [It was theChicagoPark District who bulldozed
>> Meigs.]
>>
>> http://www.msichicago.org/info/vtm/about.html
>> The Museum of Science and Industry is supported in part through
>> the generosity of the people ofChicagothrough theChicagoPark
>> District.
>>
>>[2]http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2003/03-1-157x.html
>> Mayor Daley bulldozesChicago'sMeigs Field
>>
>> Update: Mar. 31, 2003 - Sneaking in under the cover of darkness,
>> city ofChicagoconstruction crews began tearing up the runway at
>> Meigs Field this morning at about 1:30 a.m. There was no advance
>> warning, not even to the FAA. Some 16 aircraft are stranded on the
>> field. A city source told theChicagomedia that the "airport is
>> closed for good" for "homeland security reasons."
>>
>> "We are absolutely shocked and dismayed," said AOPA President Phil
>> Boyer. "Mayor Daley has no honor and his word has no value. The
>> sneaky way he did this shows that he knows it was wrong."
>>
>>http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=busa...
>> The Federal Aviation Administration last week ordered the city of
>> Chicagoto repay $1 million the agency claims was illegally
>> diverted to demolish Meigs Field and restore the land where the
>> airport formerly operated on the shore of Lake Michigan just
>> minutes away fromChicago'sbusiness district. In a settlement
>> reached Monday following years of legal action, FAA also fined the
>> city $33,000, the maximum possible, for failing to provide advance
>> notice of its plans to close the airport. As part of the
>> settlement, the city denies wrongdoing.
>>
>> The city ofChicagopermanently closed the lakefront airport after
>> Mayor Richard Daley ordered in bulldozers to rip up the runway
>> without notice in the dark of night March 30, 2003 ...
>>
>> Congress has since increased the applicable fines from $1,100 per
>> day to $10,000 per day, making it "much more painful for another
>> city to attempt a midnight airport raid." Congress also now
>> requires notice of proposed closures to be published in the
>> Federal Register.
>>
>>[3]http://www.avweb.com/news/atis/181839-1.html
>> Did anyone happen to look at the staggeringly high level of
>> corruption inChicagocity government? Where other U.S. cities are
>> running surpluses,Chicagokeeps increasing its city taxes and
>> fees because of the kickbacks, payoffs and scams. Your employees
>> will rapidly discover that every city construction project costs
>> about 30 percent more than in other places because the contracts
>> only go to Mayor Daley's pals, whether they are low bidder or not.
>> You'll find that 20 inches of concrete for an expressway is really
>> 15 inches, but you'll get to pay for 20 inches.
>>
>>[4]
>>
>>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-weissman/the-boeing-scandal-afte...
>> Both of the instances of Boeing's wrongdoing involved major
>> offenses against the U.S. government and U.S. taxpayers. They both
>> involved projects of considerable importance to Boeing. And in
>> both cases the company's conduct was extraordinarily egregious;
>> these were not failures to comply with arcane rules, but theft of
>> a competitor's proprietary data to facilitate bid-rigging and a
>> quid pro quo arrangement with a government contracting officer to
>> facilitate a massive government overpayment for a weapons system
>> of very questionable benefit.
>>
>> http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/dec2003/boeg-d17.shtml
>> Top officials in the Bush administration-including the president
>> himself-are implicated in the expanding scandal surrounding
>> airplane manufacturer and defense contractor Boeing. The case
>> provides a revealing glimpse into the extent to which US military
>> policy is subordinated to brazen profiteering by defense
>> contractors and the government officials who enjoy their
>> patronage.
>>
>>[5]http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2007/09/17/2003889769.pdf
>
>
> Baaa Waaa, Pampers are on sale at Target...JG
> Ma-roonnn get over it already, use MDW
>

[Gig 601XL Builder]

wrote:
> "Park officials have also launched a framework plan for the use of
> Northerly Island, the site of a bird hospital <SNIP>

A bird hospital? Really? Now there's something that will make big money for
the city.

[Montblack]

("Gig 601XL Builder" wrote)
> A bird hospital? Really? Now there's something that will make big money
> for the city.


I'm convinced the local popularity and national reputation of the Raptor
Center, at the U of M, made possible the establishment of the National Eagle
Center, on the Mississippi River (half-way, between the Twin Cities and the
Iowa border.)

Yup, $$$$ ....ecodollars.

http://www.nationaleaglecenter.org/index.htm
National Eagle Center - Wabasha, MN

http://www.raptor.cvm.umn.edu/raptor/about/home.html
The Raptor Center - University of Minnesota


Montblack

[Gig 601XL Builder]

Montblack wrote:
> ("Gig 601XL Builder" wrote)
>> A bird hospital? Really? Now there's something that will make big
>> money for the city.
>
>
> I'm convinced the local popularity and national reputation of the
> Raptor Center, at the U of M, made possible the establishment of the
> National Eagle Center, on the Mississippi River (half-way, between
> the Twin Cities and the Iowa border.)
>
> Yup, $$$$ ....ecodollars.
>
> http://www.nationaleaglecenter.org/index.htm
> National Eagle Center - Wabasha, MN
>
> http://www.raptor.cvm.umn.edu/raptor/about/home.html
> The Raptor Center - University of Minnesota
>
>
> Montblack


Do they have a lot of birds of prey in the greater Chicago area?

[Montblack]

("Gig 601XL Builder" wrote)
> Do they have a lot of birds of prey in the greater Chicago area?


Blah, blah, blah, ...Chicago.

Back to the Twin Cities:

"BirdCam began in 1998, when NSP (now Xcel Energy) became one of the first
companies to place images from a peregrine nest box online. The original
BirdCam allowed visitors to watch Mae, the first falcon to nest at a power
plant, care for and feed her young."

http://www.raptorresource.org/nests.htm
Power plant BirdCams:

"In 1990, Xcel's King plant became the first power plant in the United
States to provide a home for nesting falcons. Its success has led to similar
installations at power plants around the world. In 2004, female baby
Goldstar Zipster became the 300th falcon to hatch from a power plant."

http://www.raptorresource.org/new.htm
Fun raptor BirdCam site - many links

5/01/2007 (YIKES. I never considered this possibility!)
"In sad news, the Xcel Energy Sherco nest box was destroyed by lightning.
Adult W/A was found dead, and bits of shell were also found on the catwalk.
This is the first time anything like this has happened here that I remember.
The incident was reported to USFWS and we'll be replacing the nestbox later
this summer."


Montblack

[Paul kgyy]

>
> Do they have a lot of birds of prey in the greater Chicago area?

Lots of human birds of prey, but also a few peregrines - saw one on
top of a building across from my office window a number of years ago,
dining on fresh pigeon.

The bird hospital is for CFIT by birds into buildings - happens
frequently during migration season. Apparently birds often fly at
night and are blinded by the city lights.

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On Oct 22, 8:42 am, "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net>
wrote:
> wrote:
> > "Park officials have also launched a framework plan for the use of
> > Northerly Island, the site of a bird hospital <SNIP>
>
> A bird hospital? Really? Now there's something that will make big money for
> the city.

Likely non-profit, and dang funny..aviation remains on the island...JG