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[Le Chaud Lapin]

What are your thoughts on it?

http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/reauthorization

-Le Chaud Lapin-

[Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]]

Le Chaud Lapin > wrote in
oups.com:

> What are your thoughts on it?


That you are an idiot, Anthony

Bertie

[Gig 601XL Builder]

Le Chaud Lapin wrote:
> What are your thoughts on it?
>
> http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/reauthorization
>
> -Le Chaud Lapin-


That the FAA is spending too many of our tax dollars to produce commercials
to support their funding.

[OH Boy!]

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
> Le Chaud Lapin wrote:
>> What are your thoughts on it?
>>
>> http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/reauthorization
>>
>> -Le Chaud Lapin-
>
>
> That the FAA is spending too many of our tax dollars to produce commercials
> to support their funding.
>
>

Your tax money at work in the FAA
While they cut the controller and technical workforce

https://employees.faa.gov/employee_services/employee_assist/associations_programs/

[Gig 601XL Builder]

OH Boy! wrote:
> Your tax money at work in the FAA
> While they cut the controller and technical workforce
>

You know, if you had put half as much effort into doing your job as you do
bitching about how the FAA is screwing you over you would probably still
have a job there.

[Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]]

"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in
:

> OH Boy! wrote:
>> Your tax money at work in the FAA
>> While they cut the controller and technical workforce
>>
>
> You know, if you had put half as much effort into doing your job as
> you do bitching about how the FAA is screwing you over you would
> probably still have a job there.
>
>
>

Shhm just thank god for small mercies.

Bertie

[OH Boy!]

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
> OH Boy! wrote:
>> Your tax money at work in the FAA
>> While they cut the controller and technical workforce
>>
>
> You know, if you had put half as much effort into doing your job as you do
> bitching about how the FAA is screwing you over you would probably still
> have a job there.
>
>

I am not bitching I am informing the tax paying and flying
public of inappropriateness and waste with the use of their
tax money within the FAA.

I am retired from the FAA. They did not screw me over they
are SCREWING the flying public over every day. Why would I
still want to work there? I just loved my job and the
mission and hate to see the organization turn to **** due to
politically correct tyranny and unqualified bozo management.
(See Marion Blakey)

By the way, it's a free country. I can bitch and whine until
I take my last breath if I want to. This is not North Korea
the last time I checked. If nobody informed the public of
mistakes and poor decisions within our Federal Government we
would be a COMMUNIST nation.

In my humble opinion I am performing a public service in my
spare time. If you don't like what I have to say enter me in
your kill file.

Have you considered there may be a few tax paying citizens
and pilots that want to be kept informed of FAA screw-ups
and poor decisions? If the FAA has money for social feel
good stuff and "Kissing the Black Ass" and diversity
conferences at resort casinos in Las Vegas why are they
cutting their controller and technical workforce? Why is the
flying public suffering through the worst delays in American
history under the current FAA leadership while they send
those "Special Emphasis Employees" to resort casinos on mine
and your tax dime?

Can YOU justify reducing controllers at the same time the
FAA is sending Gay's and Blacks to Diversity conferences at
resort casinos under the veil of Diversity?

If you can I would love to hear the justification. If I was
in charge I would eliminate diversity conferences at resort
casinos and hire a few more controllers. Which one has more
impact on Air Safety? My vote is controllers and technicians do.

Political Correctness-Tyranny with Manners
STOP Kissing the Black Ass
Diversity is Reverse Racism
Stop EEO Waste in the FAA
Disband Civil Rights Empires
Force a numbered bid system in Federal Service

[Kloudy via AviationKB.com]

OH Boy! wrote:
>
>Political Correctness-Tyranny with Manners
>STOP Kissing the Black Ass
>Diversity is Reverse Racism


god what a f*cking idiot.

go away

--
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[OH Boy!]

Kloudy via AviationKB.com wrote:
> OH Boy! wrote:
>> Political Correctness-Tyranny with Manners
>> STOP Kissing the Black Ass
>> Diversity is Reverse Racism
>
>
> god what a f*cking idiot.
>
> go away
>

Why am I an idiot?
Does the truth hurt?
Or are you one of those "Diversity Experiments" in aviation
safety that has gone horribly awry?

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article >,
"OH Boy!" > wrote:

> Kloudy via AviationKB.com wrote:
> > OH Boy! wrote:
> >> Political Correctness-Tyranny with Manners
> >> STOP Kissing the Black Ass
> >> Diversity is Reverse Racism
> >
> >
> > god what a f*cking idiot.
> >
> > go away
> >
>
> Why am I an idiot?

Dunno. Possibilities:
1. You were born stupid.
2. You trained yourself to be stupid.
3. You practiced stupidity for many yrars.
4. Any combination of the above.

> Does the truth hurt?

It may!

> Or are you one of those "Diversity Experiments" in aviation
> safety that has gone horribly awry?

Nope -- "I just calls 'em as I sees 'em!"

[Larry Dighera]

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:45:43 -0400, Orval Fairbairn
> wrote in
>:

>> Why am I an idiot?
>
>Dunno. Possibilities:
[unkind list snipped]

Perhaps the anonymous author's racial bias is a result of being raised
in the South where it is/was the norm among unenlightened Southerners?
I have met some well educated (older) professional people from the
South whose attitude toward blacks is shocking in today's world. Our
nation's noble efforts to raise the level of opportunities available
to the disadvantaged are a subject of controversy, and to the extent
they reduce the role of performance in determining qualifications,
they probably always will be controversial and require periodic
reevaluation..

Perhaps his/her views contain a modicum of truth inevitable in such a
program to integrate disadvantaged into the mainstream, but that is no
reason to espouse such blatant bigotry. But it may be reason to amend
the integration effort however. Surely the disadvantaged don't want
to be seen as being held to a lessor standard than others, as that
would tend to confirm their inferiority; they just need a little
assistance (for a generation or two) in gaining the skills that will
give them confidence that their opportunities to ascend the
professional ladder are achievable.

Mr. McNicoll (a professional ATC controller) has intimated that all
FAA candidates for ATC positions are tested to the same objective
standards of certification. If that is actually occurring, the
author's views are unfounded, and probably born of resentment for some
perceived wrong she/he encountered. Dissenting viewpoints can be
beneficial, but I am unable to find any virtue in unfounded bigotry.
To the extend that the author indulges in that, it undermines his
arguments and credibility. To make his/her point, he/she will need to
provide credible supporting evidence from impartial sources. That may
be difficult to find, but an accurate journal of specific incidents
kept over a period of time could be useful. Unfortunately, the idea
of such an objective tool would only occur to a person who wasn't
blinded by their firm conviction that their bias is truth.

What I see is an obvious attempt to pervert a labor union into a
tyrannical vehicle of subversion (as has occurred in ATC in the past,
and in other industries as well). Labor unions are a useful tool to
keep the balance of power between labor and management somewhat
centered. When either side's agenda is exploitation, it undermines
their credibility, and exposes their greed to public view.

[OH Boy!]

The entire point of the Diversity program has failed. It has
installed the perception that "Disadvantaged" people have
received hiring bias and preferential treatment. It has also
created tremendous resentment in the workplace and allowed
unqualified and untrained people into key management and
safety positions in the FAA

Also, I am not sure in 2007 what disadvantaged is.
Is it bigotry to expose a fallacy of diversity or the fact
people that are non-white are enjoying favors in the FAA?
It is not bigotry when you expose facts. Is it wrong that
Civil Rights empires have mushroomed into huge tax wasting
overhead while key positions like controllers and
technicians in the FAA are CUT and reduced? Is that not a
twisting of priority's? Will it not lead to people dying
when lives depend on a sound and robust air traffic control
system?

As far as your point regarding "Amending" the FAA and Big
Business and Government Diversity programs I totally agree.
What say we end affirmative action and diversity completely?
Go to a numbered bid system. Remove color and sex and race
from the applications. If a Black Female gets the job for
example its on her merit and qualifications not quotas. The
QUALIFIED people that Diversity programs are supposed to
help have suffered.

IF? a person of color or female is qualified and outstanding
in their field they are perceived as gotten the job because
of quotas and diversity. Diversity programs in 2007 are
counter productive. It is not 1965 anymore. The "Raised in
the South" comment is bigoted toward Southerners. People
from the North are way more racist than southerners plus the
force feeding of laws from Washington D.C. has caused
nothing but resentment and has been a failure.

I proposed to the FAA when I worked there that only one day
be celebrated. December 17th the anniversary of the Wright
Brothers flight. You would have thought I lynched all the
black people the management had a fit. You know why? Because
HUGE tax sucking EMPIRES have been built around the entire
Civil Rights SCAM. Too many people are employed perpetuating
the SCAM. (See AL Sharpton Race Card Academy)

I still stand behind my opinion that diversity and
politically correct hiring has ruined the FAA and Federal
Government. The proof is in the statistics and the
performance of the various Government organizations over the
last several years.

I can tell you this from personal experience. The Black
Females and people that are Non-White in the FAA
overwhelmingly are not qualified for their jobs. There are a
few non white male FAA employees who are hard workers and
very sharp. But the vast majority can't find their butt with
both hands. THAT IS A FACT. When you try to discipline them
or hold them accountable they scream racism and run to the
various Civil rights empires to complain and shield
themselves. The diversity programs are a failure. They need
to be changed. (See record airline delays)

One last comment. When you pass over a white male employee
who is qualified or force a white male employee to work for
a unqualified diversity experiment is that not reverse racism?

Think about it






> Perhaps the anonymous author's racial bias is a result of being raised
> in the South where it is/was the norm among unenlightened Southerners?
> I have met some well educated (older) professional people from the
> South whose attitude toward blacks is shocking in today's world. Our
> nation's noble efforts to raise the level of opportunities available
> to the disadvantaged are a subject of controversy, and to the extent
> they reduce the role of performance in determining qualifications,
> they probably always will be controversial and require periodic
> reevaluation..
>
> Perhaps his/her views contain a modicum of truth inevitable in such a
> program to integrate disadvantaged into the mainstream, but that is no
> reason to espouse such blatant bigotry. But it may be reason to amend
> the integration effort however. Surely the disadvantaged don't want
> to be seen as being held to a lessor standard than others, as that
> would tend to confirm their inferiority; they just need a little
> assistance (for a generation or two) in gaining the skills that will
> give them confidence that their opportunities to ascend the
> professional ladder are achievable.
>
> Mr. McNicoll (a professional ATC controller) has intimated that all
> FAA candidates for ATC positions are tested to the same objective
> standards of certification. If that is actually occurring, the
> author's views are unfounded, and probably born of resentment for some
> perceived wrong she/he encountered. Dissenting viewpoints can be
> beneficial, but I am unable to find any virtue in unfounded bigotry.
> To the extend that the author indulges in that, it undermines his
> arguments and credibility. To make his/her point, he/she will need to
> provide credible supporting evidence from impartial sources. That may
> be difficult to find, but an accurate journal of specific incidents
> kept over a period of time could be useful. Unfortunately, the idea
> of such an objective tool would only occur to a person who wasn't
> blinded by their firm conviction that their bias is truth.
>
> What I see is an obvious attempt to pervert a labor union into a
> tyrannical vehicle of subversion (as has occurred in ATC in the past,
> and in other industries as well). Labor unions are a useful tool to
> keep the balance of power between labor and management somewhat
> centered. When either side's agenda is exploitation, it undermines
> their credibility, and exposes their greed to public view.
>