My normal landings are clunkers, but...

[Paul kgyy]

not, to date, anything this bad. From Chicago Tribune:

"A "firm landing" of a United Airlines plane Tuesday evening at O'Hare
Airport sent two people to the hospital with minor injuries, a United
spokesman said.

The individuals injured in the 8:30 p.m. landing were a passenger and
a flight attendant, spokesman Jeff Kovick said. As of Wednesday
evening, the airline did not know what caused the Airbus 320's hard
landing."

[BDS[_2_]]

"Paul kgyy" > wrote

> The individuals injured in the 8:30 p.m. landing were a passenger and
> a flight attendant, spokesman Jeff Kovick said. As of Wednesday
> evening, the airline did not know what caused the Airbus 320's hard
> landing."
>

How about, the runway was higher than planned.

BDS

[es330td]

On Oct 11, 9:56 am, Paul kgyy > wrote:
> not, to date, anything this bad. From Chicago Tribune:
>
> "A "firm landing" of a United Airlines plane Tuesday evening at O'Hare
> Airport sent two people to the hospital with minor injuries, a United
> spokesman said.
>
> The individuals injured in the 8:30 p.m. landing were a passenger and
> a flight attendant, spokesman Jeff Kovick said. As of Wednesday
> evening, the airline did not know what caused the Airbus 320's hard
> landing."

For me this would represent 100% of the people on board.

[TheSmokingGnu]

Paul kgyy wrote:
> ..."As of Wednesday
> evening, the airline did not know what caused the Airbus 320's hard
> landing."
>

Navy pilot just trying to catch the #2 wire one more time... :P

TheSmokingGnu

[Mxsmanic]

Paul kgyy writes:

> The individuals injured in the 8:30 p.m. landing were a passenger and
> a flight attendant, spokesman Jeff Kovick said. As of Wednesday
> evening, the airline did not know what caused the Airbus 320's hard
> landing."

The pilot probably disobeyed a direct order from the Scarebus, so the aircraft
punished him.

[Robert M. Gary]

On Oct 11, 10:34 am, Mxsmanic > wrote:
> Paul kgyy writes:
> > The individuals injured in the 8:30 p.m. landing were a passenger and
> > a flight attendant, spokesman Jeff Kovick said. As of Wednesday
> > evening, the airline did not know what caused the Airbus 320's hard
> > landing."
>
> The pilot probably disobeyed a direct order from the Scarebus, so the aircraft
> punished him.

That's a very odd comment considering Airbus has a great safety
record.

-Robert

[Robert M. Gary]

On Oct 11, 4:33 pm, "Viperdoc" > wrote:
> Be advised that mxsmanic is not a pilot, and has never flown anything other
> than a computer game. He knows absolutely nothing about Airbus, Boeing, or
> LazyBoys.

Never even flown a LazyBoy? Don't give him ideas. Maybe another
Lawnchair Larry. It did suprise me that a Frenchman would have
something negative to say about their taxpayer funded Airbus though.

-Robert

[tom418]

LOL!!!!!
"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> On Oct 11, 4:33 pm, "Viperdoc" > wrote:
> > Be advised that mxsmanic is not a pilot, and has never flown anything
other
> > than a computer game. He knows absolutely nothing about Airbus, Boeing,
or
> > LazyBoys.
>
> Never even flown a LazyBoy? Don't give him ideas. Maybe another
> Lawnchair Larry. It did suprise me that a Frenchman would have
> something negative to say about their taxpayer funded Airbus though.
>
> -Robert
>

[dgs[_3_]]

Robert M. Gary wrote:

> It did suprise me that a Frenchman would have
> something negative to say about their taxpayer funded Airbus though.

Ol' Anthony ain't French.
--
dgs

[[email protected]]

Even if not French, his arrogance is often of French proportions.

[Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]]

Airbus > wrote in :

> In article m>,
> says...
>>
>>
>>On Oct 11, 9:56 am, Paul kgyy > wrote:
>>> not, to date, anything this bad. From Chicago Tribune:
>>>
>>> "A "firm landing" of a United Airlines plane Tuesday evening at O'Hare
>>> Airport sent two people to the hospital with minor injuries, a United
>>> spokesman said.
>>>
>>> The individuals injured in the 8:30 p.m. landing were a passenger and
>>> a flight attendant, spokesman Jeff Kovick said. As of Wednesday
>>> evening, the airline did not know what caused the Airbus 320's hard
>>> landing."
>>
>>For me this would represent 100% of the people on board.
>>
>
> If the only people on your plane are one passenegr and one flight
> attendant, I'd say a hard landing is almost guaranteed!!
> ;-)
>

And why is that?

bertie

[Airbus]

In article m>,
says...
>
>
>On Oct 11, 9:56 am, Paul kgyy > wrote:
>> not, to date, anything this bad. From Chicago Tribune:
>>
>> "A "firm landing" of a United Airlines plane Tuesday evening at O'Hare
>> Airport sent two people to the hospital with minor injuries, a United
>> spokesman said.
>>
>> The individuals injured in the 8:30 p.m. landing were a passenger and
>> a flight attendant, spokesman Jeff Kovick said. As of Wednesday
>> evening, the airline did not know what caused the Airbus 320's hard
>> landing."
>
>For me this would represent 100% of the people on board.
>

If the only people on your plane are one passenegr and one flight
attendant, I'd say a hard landing is almost guaranteed!!
;-)

[[email protected]]

On Oct 11, 9:00 am, "BDS" > wrote:
> "Paul kgyy" > wrote
>
> > The individuals injured in the 8:30 p.m. landing were a passenger and
> > a flight attendant, spokesman Jeff Kovick said. As of Wednesday
> > evening, the airline did not know what caused the Airbus 320's hard
> > landing."
>
> How about, the runway was higher than planned.
>
> BDS

Reports have it going off the runway into the grass and back on the
runway. A CRASH in my book...JG

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article om>,
wrote:

> On Oct 11, 9:00 am, "BDS" > wrote:
> > "Paul kgyy" > wrote
> >
> > > The individuals injured in the 8:30 p.m. landing were a passenger and
> > > a flight attendant, spokesman Jeff Kovick said. As of Wednesday
> > > evening, the airline did not know what caused the Airbus 320's hard
> > > landing."
> >
> > How about, the runway was higher than planned.
> >
> > BDS
>
> Reports have it going off the runway into the grass and back on the
> runway. A CRASH in my book...JG

"jgrove":

Were you:

a. born a fool
b. achieved foolery through long education
c. achieved it through many years of practice
d. achieved it through any combination of the above?

[Phil]

On Oct 11, 9:00 am, "BDS" > wrote:
> "Paul kgyy" > wrote
>

> How about, the runway was higher than planned.
>
> BDS

Plus it was harder than expected.

[[email protected]]

On Oct 20, 1:49 pm, Orval Fairbairn > wrote:
> In article om>,
>
> wrote:
> > On Oct 11, 9:00 am, "BDS" > wrote:
> > > "Paul kgyy" > wrote
>
> > > > The individuals injured in the 8:30 p.m. landing were a passenger and
> > > > a flight attendant, spokesman Jeff Kovick said. As of Wednesday
> > > > evening, the airline did not know what caused the Airbus 320's hard
> > > > landing."
>
> > > How about, the runway was higher than planned.
>
> > > BDS
>
> > Reports have it going off the runway into the grass and back on the
> > runway. A CRASH in my book...JG
>
> "jgrove":
>
> Were you:
>
> a. born a fool
> b. achieved foolery through long education
> c. achieved it through many years of practice
> d. achieved it through any combination of the above?

I'm glad to have my 15K miles in mileageplus expire soon. Untidy
strikes again:

"Flight 628 from Seattle was carrying 122 passengers and five crew
members when it partially left the runway after landing, officials
say. The plane eventually returned to the runway and was able to taxi
to its gate, albeit with a blown tire and damaged engines, said Tony
Molinaro, a spokesman for the Federal Aviation Administration."

If it quacks like a duck and lands like a duck.......its a crash.

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article om>,
quacked:


> >
> > Were you:
> >
> > a. born a fool
> > b. achieved foolery through long education
> > c. achieved it through many years of practice
> > d. achieved it through any combination of the above?
>
> I'm glad to have my 15K miles in mileageplus expire soon. Untidy
> strikes again:
>
> "Flight 628 from Seattle was carrying 122 passengers and five crew
> members when it partially left the runway after landing, officials
> say. The plane eventually returned to the runway and was able to taxi
> to its gate, albeit with a blown tire and damaged engines, said Tony
> Molinaro, a spokesman for the Federal Aviation Administration."
>
> If it quacks like a duck and lands like a duck.......its a crash.

And you, sir do a lot of quacking!

[[email protected]]

On Oct 21, 2:42 pm, Orval Fairbairn > wrote:

>> > If it quacks like a duck and lands like a duck.......its a crash.
>
> And you, sir do a lot of quacking!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

And now the city is being subjecting to random bombardments:

"October 23, 2007
A garment bag stowed on board a flight from Midway Airport made an
unscheduled landing less than a mile from the airfield, federal
authorities said Monday.

The bag was accidentally jettisoned from a Delta Connection plane
Sunday morning when a cargo-bay door opened shortly after takeoff,
according to the Federal Aviation Administration.

A duffel bag that also fell out of the plane's cargo hold was still
missing on Monday, she said.
The Atlanta-bound plane, carrying 70 passengers, returned safely to
Midway, officials said....

Airline inspectors had recently written up the plane, a 70-passenger
Bombardier CRJ700, for deferred maintenance on a malfunctioning
indicator light on the cargo door, the FAA said. But the aircraft was
cleared to fly after ground crews completed a visual check to ensure
the door was properly latched before flight, authorities said.

The decision to put the door light problem on deferred maintenance and
go ahead with the flight may have been legitimate, but it is an
interesting coincidence that this incident occurred," said Fred
Mirgle, chairman of the aviation maintenance science program at Embry-
Riddle Aeronautical University in Daytona Beach, Fla.

"Incidents are going to happen, but those doors are damned important
to the safety of the people on board the airplane," Mirgle added.

Meanwhile, the FAA estimated that the garment bag traveled only about
a half-mile southwest of Midway on its intended 590-mile trip to
Atlanta -- and then plunged about a half-mile vertically into the rail
yard.
....
Sunday's luggage incident marked only the latest surprise landing in
the neighborhoods surrounding Midway.

In January, a turbine wheel from the engine of a cargo plane landing
at the Southwest Side airport crashed through the roof of the house of
an elderly Archer Heights resident. The hot piece of metal landed in
the women's bedroom, luckily missing her and her cocker spaniel. The
incident was attributed to engine failure.

In 1999, a tire fell off a Northwest Airlines plane as it took off
from Midway. The tire crashed through an airport fence and struck a
car driven by a pregnant woman near Central Avenue and 63rd Street.
Neither she nor her 7-month-old fetus was injured.

[[email protected]]

On Oct 23, 4:26 pm, wrote:
> On Oct 21, 2:42 pm, Orval Fairbairn > wrote:
>
> >> > If it quacks like a duck and lands like a duck.......its a crash.
>
> > And you, sir do a lot of quacking!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> And now the city is being subjecting to random bombardments:
>
> "October 23, 2007
> A garment bag stowed on board a flight from Midway Airport made an
> unscheduled landing less than a mile from the airfield, federal
> authorities said Monday.
>
> The bag was accidentally jettisoned from a Delta Connection plane
> Sunday morning when a cargo-bay door opened shortly after takeoff,
> according to the Federal Aviation Administration.
>
> A duffel bag that also fell out of the plane's cargo hold was still
> missing on Monday, she said.
> The Atlanta-bound plane, carrying 70 passengers, returned safely to
> Midway, officials said....
>
> Airline inspectors had recently written up the plane, a 70-passenger
> Bombardier CRJ700, for deferred maintenance on a malfunctioning
> indicator light on the cargo door, the FAA said. But the aircraft was
> cleared to fly after ground crews completed a visual check to ensure
> the door was properly latched before flight, authorities said.
>
> The decision to put the door light problem on deferred maintenance and
> go ahead with the flight may have been legitimate, but it is an
> interesting coincidence that this incident occurred," said Fred
> Mirgle, chairman of the aviation maintenance science program at Embry-
> Riddle Aeronautical University in Daytona Beach, Fla.
>
> "Incidents are going to happen, but those doors are damned important
> to the safety of the people on board the airplane," Mirgle added.
>
> Meanwhile, the FAA estimated that the garment bag traveled only about
> a half-mile southwest of Midway on its intended 590-mile trip to
> Atlanta -- and then plunged about a half-mile vertically into the rail
> yard.
> ...
> Sunday's luggage incident marked only the latest surprise landing in
> the neighborhoods surrounding Midway.
>
> In January, a turbine wheel from the engine of a cargo plane landing
> at the Southwest Side airport crashed through the roof of the house of
> an elderly Archer Heights resident. The hot piece of metal landed in
> the women's bedroom, luckily missing her and her cocker spaniel. The
> incident was attributed to engine failure.
>
> In 1999, a tire fell off a Northwest Airlines plane as it took off
> from Midway. The tire crashed through an airport fence and struck a
> car driven by a pregnant woman near Central Avenue and 63rd Street.
> Neither she nor her 7-month-old fetus was injured.

They are attempting to "beautify" the city, but it is a lost cause...

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article . com>,
wrote:

> On Oct 21, 2:42 pm, Orval Fairbairn > wrote:
>
> >> > If it quacks like a duck and lands like a duck.......its a crash.
> >
> > And you, sir do a lot of quacking!- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> And now the city is being subjecting to random bombardments:
>

You never did answer my question:

"How did you become a fool?

a. Were you born that way?
b. Did you go to fool school and study hard?
c. Did you practice for years?
d. Any combination of the above."

Please answer the question!

[[email protected]]

On Oct 23, 6:32 pm, wrote:
> On Oct 23, 4:26 pm, wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 21, 2:42 pm, Orval Fairbairn > wrote:
>
> > >> > If it quacks like a duck and lands like a duck.......its a crash.
>
> > > And you, sir do a lot of quacking!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > And now the city is being subjecting to random bombardments:
>
> > "October 23, 2007
> > A garment bag stowed on board a flight from Midway Airport made an
> > unscheduled landing less than a mile from the airfield, federal
> > authorities said Monday.
>
> > The bag was accidentally jettisoned from a Delta Connection plane
> > Sunday morning when a cargo-bay door opened shortly after takeoff,
> > according to the Federal Aviation Administration.
>
> > A duffel bag that also fell out of the plane's cargo hold was still
> > missing on Monday, she said.
> > The Atlanta-bound plane, carrying 70 passengers, returned safely to
> > Midway, officials said....
>
> > Airline inspectors had recently written up the plane, a 70-passenger
> > Bombardier CRJ700, for deferred maintenance on a malfunctioning
> > indicator light on the cargo door, the FAA said. But the aircraft was
> > cleared to fly after ground crews completed a visual check to ensure
> > the door was properly latched before flight, authorities said.
>
> > The decision to put the door light problem on deferred maintenance and
> > go ahead with the flight may have been legitimate, but it is an
> > interesting coincidence that this incident occurred," said Fred
> > Mirgle, chairman of the aviation maintenance science program at Embry-
> > Riddle Aeronautical University in Daytona Beach, Fla.
>
> > "Incidents are going to happen, but those doors are damned important
> > to the safety of the people on board the airplane," Mirgle added.
>
> > Meanwhile, the FAA estimated that the garment bag traveled only about
> > a half-mile southwest of Midway on its intended 590-mile trip to
> > Atlanta -- and then plunged about a half-mile vertically into the rail
> > yard.
> > ...
> > Sunday's luggage incident marked only the latest surprise landing in
> > the neighborhoods surrounding Midway.
>
> > In January, a turbine wheel from the engine of a cargo plane landing
> > at the Southwest Side airport crashed through the roof of the house of
> > an elderly Archer Heights resident. The hot piece of metal landed in
> > the women's bedroom, luckily missing her and her cocker spaniel. The
> > incident was attributed to engine failure.
>
> > In 1999, a tire fell off a Northwest Airlines plane as it took off
> > from Midway. The tire crashed through an airport fence and struck a
> > car driven by a pregnant woman near Central Avenue and 63rd Street.
> > Neither she nor her 7-month-old fetus was injured.
>
> They are attempting to "beautify" the city, but it is a lost cause...

Kid's dolls are the weapons of cowards !

"The days of flying in the belly of airplanes appear to be numbered
for a doll of a traveler named Marisol Luna.

American Girl Inc. sent out a replacement doll Wednesday to a little
girl from Florida who lost her cherished Marisol doll on Sunday when
it inadvertently deplaned in mid-air through the open cargo door of a
Delta Connection jet that departed Midway Airport.

The duffel bag that held the doll and other personal property is still
missing." or being held as a POW at Teamster's union hall...JG

[[email protected]]

> Kid's dolls are the weapons of cowards !

You have a point... to truly "beautify" Chicago, one would have to
drop a sufficient number of 1000lb bombs.