Air Force Family Portrait 1958

[Paul Laughlin]

My apologies. That image seemed to be clipped some. Here is another try at
it.

Paul in Portland OR

[David Hartung]

Paul Laughlin wrote:
> My apologies. That image seemed to be clipped some. Here is another try at
> it.
>
> Paul in Portland OR

Thanks. If I am not mistaken, this picture was published in the Worldbook
Encyclopedia in the mid 60s.

[Willem Van der Voort]

"Paul Laughlin" > schreef in bericht
. ..
> My apologies. That image seemed to be clipped some. Here is another try
> at it.


Interesting picture

Where is the B-58 & F-104 Starfighter, I saw them in the Paris air show in
1958

Willem

[muff528]

"Willem Van der Voort" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Paul Laughlin" > schreef in bericht
> . ..
>> My apologies. That image seemed to be clipped some. Here is another try
>> at it.
>
>
> Interesting picture
>
> Where is the B-58 & F-104 Starfighter, I saw them in the Paris air show in
> 1958
>
> Willem
>
>

You know how hard it is to get a family together at one time for a picture?
:-)
BTW - no T-28 or T-34 either

[Dave Kearton]

muff528 wrote:
>> "Willem Van der Voort" > wrote in
>> message ...
>>>
>>> "Paul Laughlin" > schreef in bericht
>>> . ..
>>>> My apologies. That image seemed to be clipped some. Here is
>>>> another try at it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting picture
>>>
>>> Where is the B-58 & F-104 Starfighter, I saw them in the Paris air
>>> show in 1958
>>>
>>> Willem
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You know how hard it is to get a family together at one time for a
>> picture? :-)
>> BTW - no T-28 or T-34 either



Well, there was that incident between the T-28 and the F-104's wife.
Things were pretty tense back then.




B-58 has always had a problem <glug glug> if you know what I mean ....



--

Cheers

Dave Kearton

[muff528]

>
> Well, there was that incident between the T-28 and the F-104's wife.
> Things were pretty tense back then.

Wasn't she that cute li'l Kaman eggbeater? She was quite the
trollop.........nice pair of rotors, though!

TP

[muff528]

>
> B-58 has always had a problem <glug glug> if you know what I mean ....
>

> Cheers
>
> Dave Kearton
>
>

Yeah, but you know that B-36's problem was even worse! He was hooked on JP4
*and* gas and usually did both at once!
That problem seems to run in the family. :0)

[Don Pyeatt]

"muff528" > wrote in message
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> >
>> B-58 has always had a problem <glug glug> if you know what I mean ....
>>
>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Dave Kearton
>>
>>
>
> Yeah, but you know that B-36's problem was even worse! He was hooked on
> JP4 *and* gas and usually did both at once!
> That problem seems to run in the family. :0)
>

No JP4, the jets and recips both burned avgas.

gdp

[muff528]

"Don Pyeatt" > wrote in message
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> "muff528" > wrote in message
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>> >
>>> B-58 has always had a problem <glug glug> if you know what I mean ....
>>>
>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Dave Kearton
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, but you know that B-36's problem was even worse! He was hooked on
>> JP4 *and* gas and usually did both at once!
>> That problem seems to run in the family. :0)
>>
>
> No JP4, the jets and recips both burned avgas.
>
> gdp
>

That's what I get for "assumin"!
:-) TP

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"muff528" > wrote in message
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>
> BTW - no T-28 or T-34 either

And no T-33, a mainstay at that time.

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"Willem Van der Voort" > wrote in message
...
>
> Interesting picture
>
> Where is the B-58 & F-104 Starfighter, I saw them in the Paris air show in
> 1958
>

The B-58 was still in flight test mode in 1958, it wouldn't be operational
until 1961. The F-104 became opertional in January1958, but was grounded
soon after due to a succession of accidents. The photo may have been taken
during that period.


Other missing USAF aircraft of 1958:


Boeing B-17, served as target drones and drone controllers until1959.

North American B-45

Douglas B-66

Beech C-45

Douglas C-47

Douglas C-54

Douglas C-117

Douglas C-118

Fairchild C-119

Fairchild C-123

Convair C-131

Douglas C-133

Republic F-105, first production versions delivered in May.

Bell H-13

Sikorsky H-19

Vertol H-21

Kaman H-43

de Havilland L-20

Aero Commander L-26

Cessna L-27

North American T-28

Convair T-29

Lockheed T-33

Beech T-34

[Ron Monroe]

Well, the H-19 is smack dab in the center of the picture. The B-66 is to the
left of the F-94C, which is left of the H-19. But, you are right about the
rest of them.
Ron

"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Willem Van der Voort" > wrote in
> message ...
>>
>> Interesting picture
>>
>> Where is the B-58 & F-104 Starfighter, I saw them in the Paris air show
>> in 1958
>>
>
> The B-58 was still in flight test mode in 1958, it wouldn't be operational
> until 1961. The F-104 became opertional in January1958, but was grounded
> soon after due to a succession of accidents. The photo may have been
> taken during that period.
>
>
> Other missing USAF aircraft of 1958:
>
>
> Boeing B-17, served as target drones and drone controllers until1959.
>
> North American B-45
>
> Douglas B-66
>
> Beech C-45
>
> Douglas C-47
>
> Douglas C-54
>
> Douglas C-117
>
> Douglas C-118
>
> Fairchild C-119
>
> Fairchild C-123
>
> Convair C-131
>
> Douglas C-133
>
> Republic F-105, first production versions delivered in May.
>
> Bell H-13
>
> Sikorsky H-19
>
> Vertol H-21
>
> Kaman H-43
>
> de Havilland L-20
>
> Aero Commander L-26
>
> Cessna L-27
>
> North American T-28
>
> Convair T-29
>
> Lockheed T-33
>
> Beech T-34
>
>

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"Ron Monroe" > wrote in message
...
>
> Well, the H-19 is smack dab in the center of the picture. The B-66 is to
> the left of the F-94C, which is left of the H-19. But, you are right about
> the rest of them.
>

Poor editing.

[Paul Laughlin]

Most of the below listed aircraft were already outdated at the time of the
picture. Still used as base ops and special purpose assignments. The first
aircraft assigned to the B-58 Test Force was "Hustler's Mother", a C-47.
And since in the early days of the Test Force, we had no other aircraft and
many hands available, it was very highly polished. It was used by the B-58
Test Force Commander. As far as I know, there were no Wings or Squadrons of
most of the aircraft listed below at the time the picture was taken.
Paul in Portland OR (Ret. USAF btw)



>> Other missing USAF aircraft of 1958:
>>
>>
>> Boeing B-17, served as target drones and drone controllers until1959.
>>
>> North American B-45
>>
>> Douglas B-66
>>
>> Beech C-45
>>
>> Douglas C-47
>>
>> Douglas C-54
>>
>> Douglas C-117
>>
>> Douglas C-118
>>
>> Fairchild C-119
>>
>> Fairchild C-123
>>
>> Convair C-131
>>
>> Douglas C-133
>>
>> Republic F-105, first production versions delivered in May.
>>
>> Bell H-13
>>
>> Sikorsky H-19
>>
>> Vertol H-21
>>
>> Kaman H-43
>>
>> de Havilland L-20
>>
>> Aero Commander L-26
>>
>> Cessna L-27
>>
>> North American T-28
>>
>> Convair T-29
>>
>> Lockheed T-33
>>
>> Beech T-34
>>
>>
>
>

[[email protected]]

If you look at the very top of the picture you will see 15 T-33s up
there.





On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:56:02 -0700, "Paul Laughlin"
> wrote:

>Most of the below listed aircraft were already outdated at the time of the
>picture. Still used as base ops and special purpose assignments. The first
>aircraft assigned to the B-58 Test Force was "Hustler's Mother", a C-47.
>And since in the early days of the Test Force, we had no other aircraft and
>many hands available, it was very highly polished. It was used by the B-58
>Test Force Commander. As far as I know, there were no Wings or Squadrons of
>most of the aircraft listed below at the time the picture was taken.
>Paul in Portland OR (Ret. USAF btw)
>
>
>
>>> Other missing USAF aircraft of 1958:
>>>
>>>
>>> Boeing B-17, served as target drones and drone controllers until1959.
>>>
>>> North American B-45
>>>
>>> Douglas B-66
>>>
>>> Beech C-45
>>>
>>> Douglas C-47
>>>
>>> Douglas C-54
>>>
>>> Douglas C-117
>>>
>>> Douglas C-118
>>>
>>> Fairchild C-119
>>>
>>> Fairchild C-123
>>>
>>> Convair C-131
>>>
>>> Douglas C-133
>>>
>>> Republic F-105, first production versions delivered in May.
>>>
>>> Bell H-13
>>>
>>> Sikorsky H-19
>>>
>>> Vertol H-21
>>>
>>> Kaman H-43
>>>
>>> de Havilland L-20
>>>
>>> Aero Commander L-26
>>>
>>> Cessna L-27
>>>
>>> North American T-28
>>>
>>> Convair T-29
>>>
>>> Lockheed T-33
>>>
>>> Beech T-34
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>