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Paul Laughlin
October 14th 07, 01:49 AM
In 1958, the B-58 was not yet a part of the Air Force family. I was the
39th man to
sign in to the B-58 Test Force at Carswell AFB in the spring of '58. We did
not get our first aircraft until months later. The first production model
of the B-58 was delivered, across the runway, on December 1, 1959. The
F-104A, which was the first production model, was delivered in 1958 . I do
know that they were used, at times, as chase planes for the B-58 test
flights. I believe that the F104 was used when speed was of the essence.
Most of the time they used F-102s for chase planes. I was a lowly enlisted
man, who worked on the maintenance of the B-58 Bombing/Navigation system. I
am pretty sure that the one at Paris in '58 was a test model. I am not
positive just when the image that I posted was shot. I hope this has helped
a little bit.
Paul in Portland OR

Willem Van der Voort
October 14th 07, 07:05 AM
"Paul Laughlin" > schreef in bericht
...
> In 1958, the B-58 was not yet a part of the Air Force family. I was the
> 39th man to
> sign in to the B-58 Test Force at Carswell AFB in the spring of '58. We
> did
> not get our first aircraft until months later. The first production model
> of the B-58 was delivered, across the runway, on December 1, 1959. The
> F-104A, which was the first production model, was delivered in 1958 . I
> do
> know that they were used, at times, as chase planes for the B-58 test
> flights. I believe that the F104 was used when speed was of the essence.
> Most of the time they used F-102s for chase planes. I was a lowly
> enlisted
> man, who worked on the maintenance of the B-58 Bombing/Navigation system.
> I
> am pretty sure that the one at Paris in '58 was a test model. I am not
> positive just when the image that I posted was shot. I hope this has
> helped
> a little bit.
> Paul in Portland OR
>

Thanks for the information.

I was in Paris when the B-58 arrived direct from the USA in a non stop
flight.

I believe he did it in 3 hours.

Willem

Panic
October 14th 07, 05:24 PM
Paul, you might take a look at my B-58 web site for pictures and text about
the Hustler.

Darrell R. Schmidt
B-58 Hustler Web Site
http://members.cox.net/dschmidt1/
USAF Pilot Class 55-I Web Site
http://pilotclass55india.org/


"Paul Laughlin" > wrote in message
...
> In 1958, the B-58 was not yet a part of the Air Force family. I was the
> 39th man to
> sign in to the B-58 Test Force at Carswell AFB in the spring of '58. We
> did
> not get our first aircraft until months later. The first production model
> of the B-58 was delivered, across the runway, on December 1, 1959. The
> F-104A, which was the first production model, was delivered in 1958 . I
> do
> know that they were used, at times, as chase planes for the B-58 test
> flights. I believe that the F104 was used when speed was of the essence.
> Most of the time they used F-102s for chase planes. I was a lowly
> enlisted
> man, who worked on the maintenance of the B-58 Bombing/Navigation system.
> I
> am pretty sure that the one at Paris in '58 was a test model. I am not
> positive just when the image that I posted was shot. I hope this has
> helped
> a little bit.
> Paul in Portland OR
>
>

Willem Van der Voort
October 14th 07, 06:25 PM
"Willem Van der Voort" > schreef in
bericht ...

>>Where is the B-58 & F-104 Starfighter, I saw them in the Paris air show in
>>1958

> I was in Paris when the B-58 arrived direct from the USA in a non stop
> flight.

My mistake, I wend to the Paris air showin in 1961, in 1958 I wend to
the Brussels World fair. Bad memory :-)

On Friday 26 May 1961, a B-58 flew from New York City to Paris,
France in 3 hours and 14 minutes

Willem

Paul Laughlin
October 14th 07, 08:28 PM
Are you sure that was in 1958? In 1961 a B-58 and it's crew were taken to
The Paris Air Show to receive the Bleriot Trophy. A different crew
delivered the aircraft to Paris and set a speed record from New York to
Paris of three hours and 19 minutes. I believe that record still stands.
Then the crew, that actually made the flight that won the Bleriot Trophy
took off on the return flight. They did a fly-by and attempted a victory
roll. Lost control and crashed about 5 km from Le Bourget.
Paul in Portland OR


"Willem Van der Voort" > wrote in message
...

> I was in Paris when the B-58 arrived direct from the USA in a non stop
> flight.
>
> I believe he did it in 3 hours.

Willem Van der Voort
October 14th 07, 10:43 PM
"Paul Laughlin" > schreef in bericht
. ..
> Are you sure that was in 1958? In 1961 a B-58 and it's crew were taken to
> The Paris Air Show to receive the Bleriot Trophy. A different crew
> delivered the aircraft to Paris and set a speed record from New York to
> Paris of three hours and 19 minutes. I believe that record still stands.
> Then the crew, that actually made the flight that won the Bleriot Trophy
> took off on the return flight. They did a fly-by and attempted a victory
> roll. Lost control and crashed about 5 km from Le Bourget.
> Paul in Portland OR
My mistake, I wend to the Paris air showin in 1961, in 1958 I wend to
the Brussels World fair. Bad memory :-)

On Friday 26 May 1961, a B-58 flew from New York City to Paris,
France in 3 hours and 14 minutes

Willem

Patrick R7
October 15th 07, 07:58 AM
1961

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Norm DePlume
October 15th 07, 04:04 PM
Merci.

October 17th 07, 04:22 AM
In the linked pictures of Le Bourget, 1959, what is that twin-tailed
monstrosity with the straight wings, 4 recip engines and huge wingtips?
NEVER seen it before, and I was alive in the late 50s, though I was never in
Europe in the 50s or early 60s.

Thanks in advance.

Brian

Proton Fox
October 17th 07, 06:42 AM
wrote in
ng.com:

> In the linked pictures of Le Bourget, 1959, what is that twin-tailed
> monstrosity with the straight wings, 4 recip engines and huge
> wingtips? NEVER seen it before, and I was alive in the late 50s,
> though I was never in Europe in the 50s or early 60s.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Brian

Breguet 761 series.

See : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breguet_Deux-Ponts

Patrick R7
October 17th 07, 08:11 AM
Proton Fox a écrit :

>
> See : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breguet_Deux-Ponts
>
>
>

Yes : "Breguet Two Desks" ;-)


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