Video Making Suggestions

[Randy[_2_]]

I am looking for suggestions on what type of video equipment to use
to
record some soaring flights. I would also like to know to safely mount
the
cameras, (both inside and outside the cockpit).
Thanks for your time!

Randy

[Ken Kochanski (KK)]

One of the students in our club just put together a nice video -
Sunday Soaring ... I just posted the file to our site last night ...
and was going to include details I recieved in an e-mail from the
maker. These will be updated on the site tonight ... don't have them
here at work, unfortunately.

This is a big file ... you will need a high speed link ...

http://www.pgcsoaring.org/07_Album_Menu.html

On Oct 17, 11:43 pm, Randy > wrote:
> I am looking for suggestions on what type of video equipment to use
> to
> record some soaring flights. I would also like to know to safely mount
> the
> cameras, (both inside and outside the cockpit).
> Thanks for your time!
>
> Randy

[ASW20C]

What a great video! Good footage, good music; too bad we don't see
more of this.
Thanks for posting the link!

[Adam]

On Oct 17, 10:43 pm, Randy > wrote:
> I am looking for suggestions on what type of video equipment to use
> to
> record some soaring flights. I would also like to know to safely mount
> the
> cameras, (both inside and outside the cockpit).
> Thanks for your time!
>
> Randy

I would talk to Sebastian Kawa. his home videos are fantastic!

http://www.youtube.com/user/kawior10

[5Z]

I just heard about this new company that is selling video setup for
recording airplane flight training: http://www.reflight.com/

Wasn't clear from the website, but it looks like either now or in the
future, the recorder will accept NMEA input from a GPS so one could
correlate video with position.

A bit more expensive than something one could cobble up themselves,
but it's a complete package that's specifically aimed at aviation.

-Tom

[Greg Arnold]

Ken Kochanski (KK) wrote:
> One of the students in our club just put together a nice video -
> Sunday Soaring ... I just posted the file to our site last night ...
> and was going to include details I recieved in an e-mail from the
> maker. These will be updated on the site tonight ... don't have them
> here at work, unfortunately.
>
> This is a big file ... you will need a high speed link ...
>
> http://www.pgcsoaring.org/07_Album_Menu.html


Very nice. Compare that to the one the SSA currently is spending its
money on (the one with the slow-talking narrator and the interminable
shots of gliders taking off and landing).

[Vsoars]

On Oct 18, 9:49 am, 5Z > wrote:
> I just heard about this new company that is selling video setup for
> recording airplane flight training:http://www.reflight.com/
>
> Wasn't clear from the website, but it looks like either now or in the
> future, the recorder will accept NMEA input from a GPS so one could
> correlate video with position.
>
> A bit more expensive than something one could cobble up themselves,
> but it's a complete package that's specifically aimed at aviation.
>
> -Tom

"Sunday Soaring" and all of Sebastian Kawa's should inspire people to
try soaring.

I have collected some excellent videos on my web site http://soar.weebly.com/

The purpose of this site is to give us another tool as we promote
soaring to young/adventurous people. I'd appreciate other suggestions
for additions, especially club videos. We need a collection to inspire
clubs to develop their own videos.

[bumper]

Good video, but they seriously need a MKII "high tech" yaw string! What was
all that glopped-on ugly tape filling the top of the picture?

all the best,
--
bumper ZZ (reverse all after @)>
"Dare to be different . . . circle in sink."


"Ken Kochanski (KK)" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> One of the students in our club just put together a nice video -
> Sunday Soaring ... I just posted the file to our site last night ...
> and was going to include details I recieved in an e-mail from the
> maker. These will be updated on the site tonight ... don't have them
> here at work, unfortunately.
>
> This is a big file ... you will need a high speed link ...
>
> http://www.pgcsoaring.org/07_Album_Menu.html
>
> On Oct 17, 11:43 pm, Randy > wrote:
>> I am looking for suggestions on what type of video equipment to use
>> to
>> record some soaring flights. I would also like to know to safely mount
>> the
>> cameras, (both inside and outside the cockpit).
>> Thanks for your time!
>>
>> Randy
>
>

[Ken Kochanski (KK)]

On Oct 19, 2:25 am, "bumper" > wrote:
> Good video, but they seriously need a MKII "high tech" yaw string! What was
> all that glopped-on ugly tape filling the top of the picture?
>
> all the best,
> --
> bumper ZZ (reverse all after @)>
> "Dare to be different . . . circle in sink."
>
> "Ken Kochanski (KK)" > wrote in ooglegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > One of the students in our club just put together a nice video -
> > Sunday Soaring ... I just posted the file to our site last night ...
> > and was going to include details I recieved in an e-mail from the
> > maker. These will be updated on the site tonight ... don't have them
> > here at work, unfortunately.
>
> > This is a big file ... you will need a high speed link ...
>
> >http://www.pgcsoaring.org/07_Album_Menu.html
>
> > On Oct 17, 11:43 pm, Randy > wrote:
> >> I am looking for suggestions on what type of video equipment to use
> >> to
> >> record some soaring flights. I would also like to know to safely mount
> >> the
> >> cameras, (both inside and outside the cockpit).
> >> Thanks for your time!
>
> >> Randy- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yeah ... I think we have about a square yard of tape and residue on
the canopy. =8o

I think this was Kyle's first attempt at a soaring video ... and he
was combining student instructional flights with the video efforts ...
I'm thinking maybe we can just reshoot and re-edit these forward
facing sequences to remove the only 'artistic' blemish I can see in
the production. Still a great video ...

KK

[ContestID67]

This has to be one of the best short videos of soaring I have ever
seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pymv4IEk6pk

[Airjunkie[_2_]]

On Oct 17, 8:43?pm, Randy > wrote:
> I am looking for suggestions on what type of video equipment to use
> to
> record some soaring flights. I would also like to know to safely mount
> the
> cameras, (both inside and outside the cockpit).
> Thanks for your time!
>
> Randy

best format - Mini DV. I've zip tied a lipstick camera to my
sunglasses with good results. Also find a clamp type mount to mount
lipstick camera to tubing behind pilot for over shoulder shots, down
the wing shots. Duct tape lipstick camera to exterior of glider -
check for proximity of tattle tales first. Video security web sites
have a variety of lipstick cams to choose from. Most do need 12v
power, either from glider or separate pack. Use Mini DV camcorder as
VCR and away you go. I tuck my camcorder under my right elbow. The
more camera angles the better. So do the same flight over and over
with camera in different place each time. Makes it look like you have
a camera crew. Don't forget air to air shots and ground to air shots
too.... Oh, don't screw up while cameras are running!
Joe Bozo

[Ken Kochanski (KK)]

On Oct 19, 6:36 pm, Airjunkie > wrote:
> On Oct 17, 8:43?pm, Randy > wrote:
>
> > I am looking for suggestions on what type of video equipment to use
> > to
> > record some soaring flights. I would also like to know to safely mount
> > the
> > cameras, (both inside and outside the cockpit).
> > Thanks for your time!
>
> > Randy
>
> best format - Mini DV. I've zip tied a lipstick camera to my
> sunglasses with good results. Also find a clamp type mount to mount
> lipstick camera to tubing behind pilot for over shoulder shots, down
> the wing shots. Duct tape lipstick camera to exterior of glider -
> check for proximity of tattle tales first. Video security web sites
> have a variety of lipstick cams to choose from. Most do need 12v
> power, either from glider or separate pack. Use Mini DV camcorder as
> VCR and away you go. I tuck my camcorder under my right elbow. The
> more camera angles the better. So do the same flight over and over
> with camera in different place each time. Makes it look like you have
> a camera crew. Don't forget air to air shots and ground to air shots
> too.... Oh, don't screw up while cameras are running!
> Joe Bozo

there's a ton of mini-dvs out there ... any recommendations ... do
all mini-dvs allow you to hook up a lipstick cam?

thanks,

KK

[Frank Whiteley]

On Oct 19, 5:48 pm, "Ken Kochanski (KK)" >
wrote:
> On Oct 19, 6:36 pm, Airjunkie > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 17, 8:43?pm, Randy > wrote:
>
> > > I am looking for suggestions on what type of video equipment to use
> > > to
> > > record some soaring flights. I would also like to know to safely mount
> > > the
> > > cameras, (both inside and outside the cockpit).
> > > Thanks for your time!
>
> > > Randy
>
> > best format - Mini DV. I've zip tied a lipstick camera to my
> > sunglasses with good results. Also find a clamp type mount to mount
> > lipstick camera to tubing behind pilot for over shoulder shots, down
> > the wing shots. Duct tape lipstick camera to exterior of glider -
> > check for proximity of tattle tales first. Video security web sites
> > have a variety of lipstick cams to choose from. Most do need 12v
> > power, either from glider or separate pack. Use Mini DV camcorder as
> > VCR and away you go. I tuck my camcorder under my right elbow. The
> > more camera angles the better. So do the same flight over and over
> > with camera in different place each time. Makes it look like you have
> > a camera crew. Don't forget air to air shots and ground to air shots
> > too.... Oh, don't screw up while cameras are running!
> > Joe Bozo
>
> there's a ton of mini-dvs out there ... any recommendations ... do
> all mini-dvs allow you to hook up a lipstick cam?
>
> thanks,
>
> KK

No, look for those with AVI input. I have a JVC GR-DF550 I bought
specifically for that feature though it's a couple of years old now.
Also, for general use 1.33MP CCD. Many out there have 680K CCD. Get
highest res lipstick cam also. AVI lipstick cam and mic will require
external power and they are recorded in dubbing mode.

Frank Whiteley

[Ken Kochanski (KK)]

On Oct 19, 9:19 pm, Frank Whiteley > wrote:
> On Oct 19, 5:48 pm, "Ken Kochanski (KK)" >
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 19, 6:36 pm, Airjunkie > wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 17, 8:43?pm, Randy > wrote:
>
> > > > I am looking for suggestions on what type of video equipment to use
> > > > to
> > > > record some soaring flights. I would also like to know to safely mount
> > > > the
> > > > cameras, (both inside and outside the cockpit).
> > > > Thanks for your time!
>
> > > > Randy
>
> > > best format - Mini DV. I've zip tied a lipstick camera to my
> > > sunglasses with good results. Also find a clamp type mount to mount
> > > lipstick camera to tubing behind pilot for over shoulder shots, down
> > > the wing shots. Duct tape lipstick camera to exterior of glider -
> > > check for proximity of tattle tales first. Video security web sites
> > > have a variety of lipstick cams to choose from. Most do need 12v
> > > power, either from glider or separate pack. Use Mini DV camcorder as
> > > VCR and away you go. I tuck my camcorder under my right elbow. The
> > > more camera angles the better. So do the same flight over and over
> > > with camera in different place each time. Makes it look like you have
> > > a camera crew. Don't forget air to air shots and ground to air shots
> > > too.... Oh, don't screw up while cameras are running!
> > > Joe Bozo
>
> > there's a ton of mini-dvs out there ... any recommendations ... do
> > all mini-dvs allow you to hook up a lipstick cam?
>
> > thanks,
>
> > KK
>
> No, look for those with AVI input. I have a JVC GR-DF550 I bought
> specifically for that feature though it's a couple of years old now.
> Also, for general use 1.33MP CCD. Many out there have 680K CCD. Get
> highest res lipstick cam also. AVI lipstick cam and mic will require
> external power and they are recorded in dubbing mode.
>
> Frank Whiteley

Thanks, Frank ...

I also found a site that seems to identify all camcorder models that
have AV Inputs ... I guess all of these will support an external
lipstick cam ... don't know enough about the hardware to understand if
there are any other factors that would result in problems.

http://www.vio-pov.com/support/index.php?type=ntsc&page=compatibility&manufacturer=Sony

[Kemp[_2_]]

Consider using a HiDef camera like the Canon HV20. Uses standard DV
tapes but is a full HD format camera. Around $900 or less. I've been
experimenting with an HV20 in the cockpit for capturing footage for
advanced XC training purposes. A very short clip (no narration, just
raw footage) is at: http://vimeo.com/343957

Now this has been massaged by Vimeo (a partner posted this there as a
test), so the clarity is not all you can get from HD, but when you see
the crispness and detail from raw HD footage, it's fantastic.
Especially when you think that our sport often relies on small visual
details (sky or ground), then HD is the way to go. Warning: the files
are enormous (13 Gigabytes per hour of footage), and there is no
reliable PC based system for ingesting and editing. Buy a dual
processor Mac with max memory and disk and you'll be set. Also
consider a half Terabyte external drive too. I don't know about
lipstick cameras that can output an HD usable image, if anyone knows
about that, I'd like to hear about it. I saw the table from a
previous post that showed the HV20 supported, but that could be at a
lower resolution. Hmmmm

Kemp