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Flutter
October 20th 07, 02:00 AM
As a new pilot, i got my license (not even a month ago) when i turned 15
i still dont know anyone who is anywhere near my age yet though

All the men who i met while learning where great people but where all over 50
is there actually anyone out there who is under 20?

Mxsmanic
October 20th 07, 10:04 AM
Flutter writes:

> As a new pilot, i got my license (not even a month ago) when i turned
> 15 i still dont know anyone who is anywhere near my age yet though
>
> All the men who i met while learning where great people but where all
> over 50 is there actually anyone out there who is under 20?

In the United States, the average private pilot is in his mid-40s. I suspect
this is so because it takes that long for the average aspiring pilot to save
up enough money to actually be able to fly around a bit. However, if you have
a private pilot's license at 15, you're not in the United States, and I'm not
sure how the demographics look in other countries.

Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
October 20th 07, 11:12 AM
Mxsmanic > wrote in
:

> Flutter writes:
>
>> As a new pilot, i got my license (not even a month ago) when i turned
>> 15 i still dont know anyone who is anywhere near my age yet though
>>
>> All the men who i met while learning where great people but where all
>> over 50 is there actually anyone out there who is under 20?
>
> In the United States, the average private pilot is in his mid-40s. I
> suspect this is so because it takes that long for the average aspiring
> pilot to save up enough money to actually be able to fly around a bit.


Nope. Only you fjukkwit.



> However, if you have a private pilot's license at 15, you're not in
> the United States, and I'm not sure how the demographics look in other
> countries.


My my, you don't read so good, do you?


I had a pilot's licence, in the US at 13 and anyone still could..



Fjukkwit.

Bertie

Jay Honeck
October 20th 07, 01:30 PM
> All the men who i met while learning where great people but where all
> over 50
> is there actually anyone out there who is under 20?

My son is 17, and should have his ticket (if the weather would ever
cooperate) before the end of the year. I didn't earn mine till I was
35. My wife didn't get hers until she was 37.

The aviation industry has traditionally done a TERRIBLE job of
marketing itself. I don't think it's the money as much as the lack of
knowledge amongst the general public about how easy and accessible
general aviation really *is*.

Hopefully that is starting to change, as desperation finally starts to
sink in.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Vaughn Simon
October 20th 07, 01:37 PM
"Flutter" > wrote in message
...
>
> As a new pilot, i got my license (not even a month ago) when i turned
> 15

What country?

> i still dont know anyone who is anywhere near my age yet though
> All the men who i met while learning where great people but where all
> over 50 is there actually anyone out there who is under 20?

At least here in the US, your average pilot is probably over 50 as you have
noticed. Hang around flight schools and you will find the younger folks
teaching and learning.

Having old guys around is not all bad. When I first got my Private license,
I informally teamed up with a retired airline pilot who had lost his medical.
We flew a lot together, shared expenses, and sort of mentored each other. It
was a great experience for both of us.

If you are thinking of making a living flying, you can be cheered by the
sure knowledge that many of those those old folks will be out of the business by
the time you are ready for the left seat of your Boeing.

Vaughn

Vaughn

Orval Fairbairn
October 20th 07, 04:51 PM
In article >,
Flutter > wrote:

> As a new pilot, i got my license (not even a month ago) when i turned
> 15
> i still dont know anyone who is anywhere near my age yet though
>
> All the men who i met while learning where great people but where all
> over 50
> is there actually anyone out there who is under 20?

You either got a glider rating or live outside the US. I got my private
ticket at 19, but am well over that age now.

Tom Conner
October 20th 07, 08:29 PM
"Flutter" > wrote in message
...
>
> As a new pilot, i got my license (not even a month ago) when i turned
> 15 i still dont know anyone who is anywhere near my age yet though
>
> All the men who i met while learning where great people but where all
> over 50 is there actually anyone out there who is under 20?
>

The average US pilot age of all types is 45.6, and is increasing each year.

Average Age Pilots (page 30)
Year All Student Recreational Sport Private Commercial Airline
2006 45.6 34.4 51.5 52.9 47.7 46.1 48.1


The total number of pilots of all types is 597,109 and is decreasing each
year. (page 28)

http://www.gama.aero/resources/statistics/index.php

Flutter
October 21st 07, 01:56 AM
"Flutter" wrote in message
...

As a new pilot, i got my license (not even a month ago) when i turned
15

What country?

i still dont know anyone who is anywhere near my age yet though
All the men who i met while learning where great people but where all
over 50 is there actually anyone out there who is under 20?

At least here in the US, your average pilot is probably over 50 as you have
noticed. Hang around flight schools and you will find the younger folks
teaching and learning.

Having old guys around is not all bad. When I first got my Private license,
I informally teamed up with a retired airline pilot who had lost his medical.
We flew a lot together, shared expenses, and sort of mentored each other. It
was a great experience for both of us.

If you are thinking of making a living flying, you can be cheered by the
sure knowledge that many of those those old folks will be out of the business by
the time you are ready for the left seat of your Boeing.

Vaughn

Vaughn

i agree completely with that older men give you great advice
i was the only person in my lesson thing but in the clubhouse at night it was great listening to all the stories that everyone had
i live in Australia by the way

Bob Noel
October 21st 07, 03:58 AM
In article >,
"Tom Conner" > wrote:

> The average US pilot age of all types is 45.6, and is increasing each year.

The average age in the US of everyone appears to be increasing, not just pilots.
At least that's what I can glean from a quick look through www.census.gov

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

Al Borowski
October 21st 07, 07:41 AM
On Oct 20, 11:00 am, Flutter >
wrote:
> As a new pilot, i got my license (not even a month ago) when i turned
> 15
> i still dont know anyone who is anywhere near my age yet though
>
> All the men who i met while learning where great people but where all
> over 50
> is there actually anyone out there who is under 20?

Low 20's here, but strictly speaking I don't have a private yet (over
half way there, hopefully). I have the Australian equivalent of a
Sport Pilot license and also fly motorgliders.

I'm not sure I'll even use my PPL much once I get it; if I wanted to
take 4 people somewhere it'd be almost cheaper to hire 2x RAA 2 seat
"ultralights" then to hire a 172. My last GA cross-country cost me
almost a weeks wages :(

Cheers

Al

Gene Seibel
October 21st 07, 07:30 PM
On Oct 20, 7:56 pm, Flutter >
wrote:
> Vaughn Simon;566262 Wrote:
>
>
> i agree completely with that older men give you great advice
> i was the only person in my lesson thing but in the clubhouse at night
> it was great listening to all the stories that everyone had
> i live in Australia by the way
>
> --
> Flutter

My instructor was an older man. Was good to have an instructor with
experience and stability. Harder to find that these days.
--
Gene Seibel
Gene & Sue's Aeroplanes - http://pad39a.com/gene/planes.html
Because we fly, we envy no one.

Angelo Campanella[_2_]
November 15th 07, 04:25 PM
Bob Noel wrote:
> In article >,
> "Tom Conner" > wrote:
>>The average US pilot age of all types is 45.6, and is increasing each year.
> The average age in the US of everyone appears to be increasing, not just pilots.
> At least that's what I can glean from a quick look through www.census.gov

Except for militry pilots (recuited young and "retire" early) the
pilots would have the same age distribution as auto drivers. The
population of pilots is heavily biased toward civilian private flyers as
is auto drivers. But since flying is so expensive, only the mature and
older folks can afford it, so that biases up the average pilot age a few
years. Also Airline pilots can continue up to age 60, then they retire
to the civilian category. So the average pilot age will likely be higher
than the driver age. The only thing that prevents the average to be yet
higher is that such licences are easily lost due to medical conditions.

Angelo Campanella

Gig 601XL Builder
November 15th 07, 04:42 PM
Angelo Campanella wrote:
>> "Tom Conner" > wrote:
>>> The average US pilot age of all types is 45.6, and is increasing
>>> each year.
>> The average age in the US of everyone appears to be increasing, not
>> just pilots. At least that's what I can glean from a quick look
>> through www.census.gov
>
> Except for militry pilots (recuited young and "retire" early) the
> pilots would have the same age distribution as auto drivers. The
> population of pilots is heavily biased toward civilian private flyers
> as is auto drivers. But since flying is so expensive, only the mature
> and older folks can afford it, so that biases up the average pilot
> age a few years. Also Airline pilots can continue up to age 60, then
> they retire to the civilian category. So the average pilot age will
> likely be higher than the driver age. The only thing that prevents
> the average to be yet higher is that such licences are easily lost
> due to medical conditions.
> Angelo Campanella

I sort of agree with you but I don't believe Tom's 45.6 number segregated GA
from Airline pilots and probably doesn't count active duty military pilots
at all except those that have also received FAA certificates and medicals.
And let's remember that it is active medicals that we are counting here
because unless you really screw the pooch you still have your certificate
even if you can't use it.

So assuming some number of airline pilots retire and never fly or get a
medical again that would tend to reduce the average age of the pilot
population. And to think that the age distribution is the same for auto and
aircraft licenses is just plane wrong. How many teenagers do you know that
are in flight training or have their pilot certificate? How many get their
DL? Where I live DL at 16 is close to 80% and by 21 it is almost universal.

The new starts for flight training is down and has been for years. With
fewer new pilots the average age can do nothing but increase.

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