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Gatt
October 29th 07, 04:13 PM
http://www.katu.com/news/10853446.html

CASCADE LOCKS, Ore. - A small plane reportedly went down in the Columbia
River Sunday afternoon, but the pilot and passenger appeared OK, fire
officials said.

Cascade Locks Fire Chief Jeff Pricher said the Cessna plane went down in the
middle of the river near Cascade Locks about 5 p.m.

The pilot and passenger reportedly swam to shore and a fisherman picked up
the pair and called 911, the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office said.

A witness said the lightweight, vintage-style experimental airplane was
flying erratically shortly before plunging into the river. [In another
report the pilot says he was flying just above the water, pulled up and
stalled.]

The pair were taken to Beacon Rock State Park, which is located on the
Washington side of the river, and were checked out by medical staff, Pricher
said.

He said the two were shaken up but not injured. The Federal Aviation
Administration is investigating the crash.



-c

Gig 601XL Builder
October 29th 07, 04:19 PM
Gatt wrote:
> http://www.katu.com/news/10853446.html
>
> CASCADE LOCKS, Ore. - A small plane reportedly went down in the
> Columbia River Sunday afternoon, but the pilot and passenger appeared
> OK, fire officials said.
>
> Cascade Locks Fire Chief Jeff Pricher said the Cessna plane went down
> in the middle of the river near Cascade Locks about 5 p.m.
>
> The pilot and passenger reportedly swam to shore and a fisherman
> picked up the pair and called 911, the Multnomah County Sheriff's
> Office said.
> A witness said the lightweight, vintage-style experimental airplane
> was flying erratically shortly before plunging into the river. [In
> another report the pilot says he was flying just above the water,
> pulled up and stalled.]
>
> The pair were taken to Beacon Rock State Park, which is located on the
> Washington side of the river, and were checked out by medical staff,
> Pricher said.
>
> He said the two were shaken up but not injured. The Federal Aviation
> Administration is investigating the crash.
>
>
>
> -c


IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 46361 Make/Model: EXP Description: EXP KITFOX LITE 2
Date: 10/29/2007 Time: 0005

Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Unknown

LOCATION
City: SKAMANIA State: WA Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT LOST POWER, CRASHED INTO THE COLUMBIA RIVER AND SANK, THE TWO
PERSONS ON BOARD SWAM TO SHORE, SKAMANIA, WA

INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

WEATHER: NOT REPORTED

OTHER DATA
Activity: Aerial Observation Phase: Unknown Operation: OTHER


FAA FSDO: PORTLAND, OR (NM09) Entry date: 10/29/2007

Morgans[_2_]
October 29th 07, 05:09 PM
"Gatt" > wrote

> [In another report the pilot says he was flying just above the water,
> pulled up and stalled.]

The engine must have quit! <GDR> :-)
--
Jim in NC

Larry Dighera
October 29th 07, 05:13 PM
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:13:02 -0700, "Gatt" >
wrote in >:

>
>http://www.katu.com/news/10853446.html
>
>CASCADE LOCKS, Ore. - A small plane reportedly went down in the Columbia
>River Sunday afternoon, but the pilot and passenger appeared OK, fire
>officials said.
>
>Cascade Locks Fire Chief Jeff Pricher said the Cessna plane went down in the
>middle of the river near Cascade Locks about 5 p.m.
>
>The pilot and passenger reportedly swam to shore and a fisherman picked up
>the pair and called 911, the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office said.
>
>A witness said the lightweight, vintage-style experimental airplane was
>flying erratically shortly before plunging into the river. [In another
>report the pilot says he was flying just above the water, pulled up and
>stalled.]
>
>The pair were taken to Beacon Rock State Park, which is located on the
>Washington side of the river, and were checked out by medical staff, Pricher
>said.
>
>He said the two were shaken up but not injured. The Federal Aviation
>Administration is investigating the crash.
>

Video: http://www.katu.com/news/10853446.html?video=YHI&t=a

Near Skamania Island ~15 miles down-river from Cascade Locks.
Water temp 52 degrees F.
54 year old Douglas Nelson (pilot).
Scott Nelson (nephew).
Only 5 gallons of fuel on-board, so should not cause environmental
problems.

A search of FAA records for airmans certificate information yielded:


https://amsrvs.registry.faa.gov/airmeninquiry/AirmenList.aspx?lname=nelson&fname=d&dob=&city=&state=OR&country=
Total Names found for D NELSON that lives in the state of OR is 14
DALE JOHN NELSON DAN LEWIS NELSON
DANIEL GREGGORIO NELSON DANIEL HOWARD NELSON
DARREN ALEXANDER NELSON DAVID MICHAEL NELSON
DELORIS NELSON DENNIS DEVERNE NELSON
DONALD CARL NELSON DONALD DWAIN NELSON
DONALD MARTIN NELSON DONALD RALPH NELSON
DUANE MAURICE NELSON DWAINE EUGENE NELSON
--------------------------------------------------------


http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/119363730757900.xml&coll=7
Douglas Nelson of Portland, the pilot of a homebuilt experimental
plane, and his passenger and nephew, Scott Nelson of Gresham,
escaped without injuries. They swam to a sandbar on Skamania
Island, where a fisherman, Cam Crimshaw of Gresham, picked them up
and took them to Beacon Rock State Park Moorage.

Douglas Nelson told authorities that the plane stalled when he
tried to gain altitude over the northwest end of Skamania Island.
The plane was flying low at a low speed, Undersheriff Dave Cox
said.

Larry Dighera
October 29th 07, 06:02 PM
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:19:36 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
<wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in
>:

>
>IDENTIFICATION
> Regis#: 46361 Make/Model: EXP Description: EXP KITFOX LITE 2
> Date: 10/29/2007 Time: 0005
>
> Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
> Damage: Unknown
>
>LOCATION
> City: SKAMANIA State: WA Country: US
>
>DESCRIPTION
> AIRCRAFT LOST POWER, CRASHED INTO THE COLUMBIA RIVER AND SANK, THE TWO
> PERSONS ON BOARD SWAM TO SHORE, SKAMANIA, WA
>
>INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
> # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
> # Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
> # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>
>WEATHER: NOT REPORTED
>
>OTHER DATA
> Activity: Aerial Observation Phase: Unknown Operation: OTHER
>
>
> FAA FSDO: PORTLAND, OR (NM09) Entry date: 10/29/2007
>


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
FAA Registry
Name Inquiry Results
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DOUGLAS KENT NELSEN
Address
Street XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
City PORTLAND State OR
County MULTNOMAH Zip Code 97233-1414
Country USA

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Medical
Medical Class: Third Medical Date: 10/1997
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Certificates
1 of 1
DOI: 9/23/2006
Certificate: SPORT PILOT
Limits
HOLDER DOES NOT MEET ICAO REQUIREMENTS.
Sport Pilot Privileges Not Printed on Certificate
AIRPLANE SINGLE ENGINE LAND

================================================== =============================
================================================== =============================

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
FAA Registry
N-Number Inquiry Results
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
N46361 has multiple records

Aircraft Description
Serial Number 2L 0010-004 Type Registration
Individual
Manufacturer Name BAGNALL HAROLD E Certificate Issue Date
04/03/2006
Model KITFOX LITE 2 Status Valid
Type Aircraft Fixed Wing Single-Engine Type Engine Reciprocating
Pending Number Change None Dealer No
Date Change Authorized None Mode S Code 51324004
MFR Year 2002 Fractional Owner NO

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Registered Owner

Name NELSEN DOUGLAS K
Street XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
City PORTLAND State OREGON Zip Code 97233-1414
County MULTNOMAH
Country UNITED STATES
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Airworthiness

Engine Manufacturer ROTAX Classification Experimental
Engine Model SEE BOMBADIER Category Amateur Built

A/W Date 05/02/2005
================================================== =

Gig 601XL Builder
October 29th 07, 06:45 PM
Larry Dighera wrote:

> ---------- Certificates
> 1 of 1
> DOI: 9/23/2006
> Certificate: SPORT PILOT
> Limits
> HOLDER DOES NOT MEET ICAO REQUIREMENTS.
> Sport Pilot Privileges Not Printed on Certificate
> AIRPLANE SINGLE ENGINE LAND

Oops, That is the first true Sport Pilot I've seen in an accident report.
Though I could have easily missed one.

James Sleeman
October 30th 07, 04:30 AM
On Oct 30, 5:19 am, "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net>
wrote:
> > Cessna plane
....
> > A witness said the lightweight, vintage-style experimental airplane
> > was flying erratically shortly before plunging into the river. [In
....
> Regis#: 46361 Make/Model: EXP Description: EXP KITFOX LITE 2

That's some good reporting there. Although I have to say when I read
"vintage-style experimental airplane" I immediately thought it was
probably a kitfox, no doubt with the proper round cowl.

A few days ago on a TV news bulletin here there was a report of a
Cessna 152 which crashed - all four passengers escaped unharmed. They
must have been really friendly passengers.

Larry Dighera
October 30th 07, 10:51 AM
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:30:15 -0700, James Sleeman
> wrote in
om>:

>On Oct 30, 5:19 am, "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net>
>wrote:
>> > Cessna plane
>...
>> > A witness said the lightweight, vintage-style experimental airplane
>> > was flying erratically shortly before plunging into the river. [In
>...
>> Regis#: 46361 Make/Model: EXP Description: EXP KITFOX LITE 2
>
>That's some good reporting there. Although I have to say when I read
>"vintage-style experimental airplane" I immediately thought it was
>probably a kitfox, no doubt with the proper round cowl.
>
>A few days ago on a TV news bulletin here there was a report of a
>Cessna 152 which crashed - all four passengers escaped unharmed. They
>must have been really friendly passengers.

Apparently the 'N' number had been used for a Cessna that was exported
in the past. I presume that had something to do with the press
mentioning a Cessna.

October 30th 07, 03:59 PM
On Oct 29, 11:09 am, "Morgans" > wrote:
> "Gatt" > wrote
>
> > [In another report the pilot says he was flying just above the water,
> > pulled up and stalled.]
>
> The engine must have quit! <GDR> :-)
> --
> Jim in NC

Or the rubber band wound down...

Stalling because he pulled up? Sounds suspiscious to me. I think he
was dragging his wheels on the water or something and screwed up and
splashed it. He would have really had to yank hard to produce an
accelerated stall in a Kitfox.

Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe
October 30th 07, 10:19 PM
..
"James Sleeman" > wrote in message
ups.com...
<...>
> A few days ago on a TV news bulletin here there was a report of a
> Cessna 152 which crashed - all four passengers escaped unharmed. They
> must have been really friendly passengers.
>

I've seen five people get out of a Luscombe...

--
Geoff
The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate

Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
October 30th 07, 11:10 PM
"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com> wrote in
news:Ceednd1r1tyZM7ranZ2dnUVZ_rignZ2d@wideopenwest .com:

> .
> "James Sleeman" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> <...>
>> A few days ago on a TV news bulletin here there was a report of a
>> Cessna 152 which crashed - all four passengers escaped unharmed. They
>> must have been really friendly passengers.
>>
>
> I've seen five people get out of a Luscombe...
>
> --
A Model 8?


Bertie

karl gruber[_1_]
October 31st 07, 02:55 AM
Maybe a Sedan.

"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com> wrote in message
news:Ceednd1r1tyZM7ranZ2dnUVZ_rignZ2d@wideopenwest .com...
> .
> "James Sleeman" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> <...>
>> A few days ago on a TV news bulletin here there was a report of a
>> Cessna 152 which crashed - all four passengers escaped unharmed. They
>> must have been really friendly passengers.
>>
>
> I've seen five people get out of a Luscombe...
>
> --
> Geoff
> The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
> remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
> When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate
>

Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe
November 1st 07, 08:27 PM
Nope. Five people in a two seat Model 8 - it was like watching the clowns
get out of one of those little cars at the circus..

--
Geoff
The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.

"karl gruber" > wrote in message
...
> Maybe a Sedan.
>
> "Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com> wrote in message
> news:Ceednd1r1tyZM7ranZ2dnUVZ_rignZ2d@wideopenwest .com...
>> .
>> "James Sleeman" > wrote in message
>> ups.com...
>> <...>
>>> A few days ago on a TV news bulletin here there was a report of a
>>> Cessna 152 which crashed - all four passengers escaped unharmed. They
>>> must have been really friendly passengers.
>>>
>>
>> I've seen five people get out of a Luscombe...
>>
>> --
>> Geoff
>> The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
>> remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
>> When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate
>>
>
>

Gig 601XL Builder
November 1st 07, 09:43 PM
Jim Stewart wrote:
> Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe wrote:
>> Nope. Five people in a two seat Model 8 - it was like watching the
>> clowns get out of one of those little cars at the circus..
>
> It also reminds me of a discussion about
> how many Vietnamese could fit in a Huey...


And the answer is?

Jim Stewart
November 1st 07, 10:12 PM
Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe wrote:
> Nope. Five people in a two seat Model 8 - it was like watching the clowns
> get out of one of those little cars at the circus..

It also reminds me of a discussion about
how many Vietnamese could fit in a Huey...

Jim Stewart
November 1st 07, 11:40 PM
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
> Jim Stewart wrote:
>> Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe wrote:
>>> Nope. Five people in a two seat Model 8 - it was like watching the
>>> clowns get out of one of those little cars at the circus..
>> It also reminds me of a discussion about
>> how many Vietnamese could fit in a Huey...
>
>
> And the answer is?

I can't remember specifically, but it had
to do with whether they were happy or not...

M.W. Barrow
November 2nd 07, 12:13 AM
"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
...
> Jim Stewart wrote:
>> Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe wrote:
>>> Nope. Five people in a two seat Model 8 - it was like watching the
>>> clowns get out of one of those little cars at the circus..
>>
>> It also reminds me of a discussion about
>> how many Vietnamese could fit in a Huey...
>
>
> And the answer is?
Take a look at that picture of a Huey on the roof of the US embassy in
Saigon in April, '75 for the answer.

Morgans[_2_]
November 2nd 07, 12:36 AM
"M.W. Barrow" > wrote

>> And the answer is?
> Take a look at that picture of a Huey on the roof of the US embassy in
> Saigon in April, '75 for the answer.

Except that the famous picture was not the actual embassy, but a nearby
roof.

Minor details, though. Everyone knew exactly what you meant.

To fit any more in, they would have to be ridding in the ash tray.
--
Jim in NC

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