Future carrier names

[J.P.[_2_]]

Year 2010. President Hillary Clinton names CVN-78 after William J. Clinton.
Year 2025. President Chelsea Clinton names CVN-85 after Hillary R. Clinton.

[Mike Kanze]

>Year 2010. President Hillary Clinton names CVN-78 after William J. Clinton.
>Year 2025. President Chelsea Clinton names CVN-85 after Hillary R. Clinton.

Presupposes no modern-day "Revolt of the Admirals," not to mention a large number among the lower ranks, the retired / former servicemember communities, and all those folks who were absolutely disgusted by Willie's low character. Clinton, along with Richard Nixon (and possibly Lyndon Johnson) are held in low enough regard that it is highly unlikely any USN ship, let alone a CV, will ever be named for one of them in the foreseeable future.

It's academic anyway. CVN-78 is already "spoken for," as the USS GERALD R. FORD - the earnest but likely futile efforts by some to name her otherwise notwithstanding.

Besides, driving a FORD or a LINCOLN has considerably better cachet than driving a CLINTON. <g>

--
Mike Kanze

"I wrote the story myself. It's all about a girl who lost her reputation but never missed it."

- Mae West


"J.P." > wrote in message ...
Year 2010. President Hillary Clinton names CVN-78 after William J. Clinton.
Year 2025. President Chelsea Clinton names CVN-85 after Hillary R. Clinton.

[fudog50[_2_]]

A propsal has been made to name the next carrier after the most famous
Chief Warrant Officer in the Navy ever of all time in history:
USS John Strachan

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:35:22 -0800, "Mike Kanze"
> wrote:

>>Year 2010. President Hillary Clinton names CVN-78 after William J. Clinton.
>>Year 2025. President Chelsea Clinton names CVN-85 after Hillary R. Clinton.
>
>Presupposes no modern-day "Revolt of the Admirals," not to mention a large number among the lower ranks, the retired / former servicemember communities, and all those folks who were absolutely disgusted by Willie's low character. Clinton, along with Richard Nixon (and possibly Lyndon Johnson) are held in low enough regard that it is highly unlikely any USN ship, let alone a CV, will ever be named for one of them in the foreseeable future.
>
>It's academic anyway. CVN-78 is already "spoken for," as the USS GERALD R. FORD - the earnest but likely futile efforts by some to name her otherwise notwithstanding.
>
>Besides, driving a FORD or a LINCOLN has considerably better cachet than driving a CLINTON. <g>

[Jeb]

On Nov 19, 6:35 pm, "Mike Kanze" > wrote:
> >Year 2010. President Hillary Clinton names CVN-78 after William J. Clinton.
> >Year 2025. President Chelsea Clinton names CVN-85 after Hillary R. Clinton.
>
> Presupposes no modern-day "Revolt of the Admirals," not to mention a large number among the lower ranks, the retired / former servicemember communities, and all those folks who were absolutely disgusted by Willie's low character. Clinton, along with Richard Nixon (and possibly Lyndon Johnson) are held in low enough regard that it is highly unlikely any USN ship, let alone a CV, will ever be named for one of them in the foreseeable future.

Besides, what sailor would ever want to sail on "the Big Dick", "the
Big Johnson", or "the Big Willie"?

[Glenn Dowdy[_2_]]

"Jeb" > wrote in message
...

>
> Besides, what sailor would ever want to sail on "the Big Dick", "the
> Big Johnson", or "the Big Willie"?

This is intended as both rhetorical and ironic, right?

Glenn D.

[Mr.Smartypants[_2_]]

On Nov 19, 4:35 pm, "Mike Kanze" > wrote:
> >Year 2010. President Hillary Clinton names CVN-78 after William J. Clinton.
> >Year 2025. President Chelsea Clinton names CVN-85 after Hillary R. Clinton.
>
> Presupposes no modern-day "Revolt of the Admirals," not to mention a large number among the lower ranks, the retired / former servicemember communities, and all those folks who were absolutely disgusted by Willie's low character. Clinton, along with Richard Nixon (and possibly Lyndon Johnson) are held in low enough regard that it is highly unlikely any USN ship, let alone a CV, will ever be named for one of them in the foreseeable future.
>
> It's academic anyway. CVN-78 is already "spoken for," as the USS GERALD R. FORD - the earnest but likely futile efforts by some to name her otherwise notwithstanding.



Wouldn't it be ironic sort of if the CVN-78 sailed into the Med and
the Jooz attacked it like they did the USS LIBERTY?..........and the
President ordered everyone to not come to their aid?








>
> Besides, driving a FORD or a LINCOLN has considerably better cachet than driving a CLINTON. <g>
>
> --
> Mike Kanze
>
> "I wrote the story myself. It's all about a girl who lost her reputation but never missed it."
>
> - Mae West
>
> "J.P." > wrote in ...
> Year 2010. President Hillary Clinton names CVN-78 after William J. Clinton.
> Year 2025. President Chelsea Clinton names CVN-85 after Hillary R. Clinton.

[Mike Kanze]

>Besides, what sailor would ever want to sail on "the Big Dick", "the Big Johnson", or "the Big Willie"?

Actually, I could imagine quite a few...

And not to forget, USS JOHN F. KENNEDY (CV-67) was known as "Big John," which drew a few snickers as the extra-curricular exploits of its namesake gradually became public knowledge.

--
Mike Kanze

"In the age of globalization, every world citizen owns a piece of the rest of the world's bad habits."

- Debra J. Saunders, SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE (9/21/2007)

"Jeb" > wrote in message ...
On Nov 19, 6:35 pm, "Mike Kanze" > wrote:
> >Year 2010. President Hillary Clinton names CVN-78 after William J. Clinton.
> >Year 2025. President Chelsea Clinton names CVN-85 after Hillary R. Clinton.
>
> Presupposes no modern-day "Revolt of the Admirals," not to mention a large number among the lower ranks, the retired / former servicemember communities, and all those folks who were absolutely disgusted by Willie's low character. Clinton, along with Richard Nixon (and possibly Lyndon Johnson) are held in low enough regard that it is highly unlikely any USN ship, let alone a CV, will ever be named for one of them in the foreseeable future.

Besides, what sailor would ever want to sail on "the Big Dick", "the
Big Johnson", or "the Big Willie"?

[Bill Baker]

> On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:35:22 -0800, "Mike Kanze"
> > wrote:
>
>>> Year 2010. President Hillary Clinton names CVN-78 after William J. Clinton.
>>> Year 2025. President Chelsea Clinton names CVN-85 after Hillary R. Clinton.
>>
>> Presupposes no modern-day "Revolt of the Admirals," not to mention a
>> large number among the lower ranks...

Polling data shows that currently serving USN sailors respect Bill
Clinton as a president more than our sitting prez by a rather wide
margin. Polls show that servicemen who were in the military while
Clinton was president favor Bill over George W. by an even _wider_
margin.

And since when does a nasal aerator speak for the lower ranks?
Whatever their collective opinion of Clinton, I'm sure that 95% of
former flattop enlisted of the last 20 years would emphatically state
that said former brown shoe could go [expletive deleted] himself in the
bilges rather than speak for them in re. their preferences in former
presidents. If you expand that question to brown-shoe O's in general
the percentages might fall into the 80's, but no farther.

>> ...the retired / former servicemember communities, and all those folks
>> who were absolutely disgusted by Willie's low character.

Uh huh. But ain't it funny that our sole president who served as a
naval aviator, Dad Bush, has become surprisingly chummy with Bill C.
during the years his son has been in the White House? (Served in
combat, mind you.) Anyway, I'm willing to lay down serious cash that
in a year in which two GOP senators disgrace themselves in homosexual
scandals, whilst George-Dub spends away even more soldier blood amidst
careening ineptitude, that even the bedrock conservative service
community would rather see a CVN named after Roger Clinton, let alone
Bill, than the current prez.

Now, what would really be interesting would be to strap old George Bush
_pere_ into a lie detector and ask him which is the better president,
his son or Bill Clinton? I would submit that the faction of former USN
sailors who would be surprised by a truthful answer is getting damn
near single digits.


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[Jeroen Wenting]

"J.P." > wrote in message
...
> Year 2010. President Hillary Clinton names CVN-78 after William J.
> Clinton.
> Year 2025. President Chelsea Clinton names CVN-85 after Hillary R.
> Clinton.

If Shrillary becomes president there won't be any more carriers... She's
more likely to disband the armed forces and surrender to China or Iran.
Shrillary hates the armed forces with a vengeance...

[Jeb]

On Nov 26, 11:29 am, "Glenn Dowdy" > wrote:
> "Jeb" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Besides, what sailor would ever want to sail on "the Big Dick", "the
> > Big Johnson", or "the Big Willie"?
>
> This is intended as both rhetorical and ironic, right?

Yeah, pretty much. I was going for a chuckle or two. I once wrote a
paper in college defining the .44 Magnum in "Taxi Driver" as a phallic
substitue for Travis Bickle.

[Mike Kanze]

Bill,

>Polling data shows that currently serving USN sailors respect Bill Clinton as a president more than our sitting prez by a rather wide margin. Polls show that servicemen who were in the military while Clinton was president favor Bill over George W. by an even _wider_ margin.

Can you provide us a link or a researchable reference to this polling data?

--
Mike Kanze

"In the age of globalization, every world citizen owns a piece of the rest of the world's bad habits."

- Debra J. Saunders, SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE (9/21/2007)

"Bill Baker" > wrote in message ...

> [rest snipped]

[Bob McKellar[_2_]]

"Greasy Rider" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Bill Baker" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> Polling data shows that currently serving USN sailors respect Bill
>> Clinton as a president more than our sitting prez by a rather wide
>> margin. Polls show that servicemen who were in the military while
>> Clinton was president favor Bill over George W. by an even _wider_
>> margin.
>
> Please post source of this data......
>
>
> --
> USMC Airdale 55-61
>
While you're searching, look up Truman's poll numbers. I'm sure HE'LL never
get a carrier!

Same goes for that Lincoln guy. Many in the military detested him as well.

Bob McKellar

[vincent norris]

> And not to forget, USS JOHN F. KENNEDY (CV-67) was known as "Big John,"
> which drew a few snickers as the extra-curricular exploits of its
> namesake gradually became public knowledge.

Heck, JFK's exploits were well known around Washington long before the
keel of CV-67 was laid. In fact, he had that reputation while still a
senator.

I first heard about his "accomplishments" in 1960, from a friend who was
a Washington journalist.

vince norris

[tankfixer]

In article >,
says...
>
> "Bill Baker" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Polling data shows that currently serving USN sailors respect Bill Clinton
> > as a president more than our sitting prez by a rather wide margin. Polls
> > show that servicemen who were in the military while Clinton was president
> > favor Bill over George W. by an even _wider_ margin.
>
> Please post source of this data......

I'd be curious to see it too.
Few that I knew during the his administration neither liked NOR
respected the man.

[Mike Kanze]

>Please post source of this data......

No one should hold their breath waiting for the claimant to post anything supporting his assertions.

--
Mike Kanze

"Have you ever felt like your patron saint is a man named Murphy?"

- Anonymous

"tankfixer" > wrote in message k.net...
In article >,
says...
>
> "Bill Baker" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Polling data shows that currently serving USN sailors respect Bill Clinton
> > as a president more than our sitting prez by a rather wide margin. Polls
> > show that servicemen who were in the military while Clinton was president
> > favor Bill over George W. by an even _wider_ margin.
>
> Please post source of this data......

I'd be curious to see it too.
Few that I knew during the his administration neither liked NOR
respected the man.

[Tiger]

J.P. wrote:
> Year 2010. President Hillary Clinton names CVN-78 after William J. Clinton.
> Year 2025. President Chelsea Clinton names CVN-85 after Hillary R. Clinton.
>
>

Oh, God No......
Hopefully We will ditch the current Political grandizement & get back to
True Naval Names. Battles & ships of old.

[Mike Kanze]

>Hopefully We will ditch the current Political grandizement & get back to True Naval Names. Battles & ships of old.

Would that we could. Only trouble is that "battles & ships of old" don't appropriate ship construction funds, while politicians do.

--
Mike Kanze

"Have you ever felt like your patron saint is a man named Murphy?"

- Anonymous

"Tiger" > wrote in message ...
J.P. wrote:
> Year 2010. President Hillary Clinton names CVN-78 after William J. Clinton.
> Year 2025. President Chelsea Clinton names CVN-85 after Hillary R. Clinton.
>
>

Oh, God No......
Hopefully We will ditch the current Political grandizement & get back to
True Naval Names. Battles & ships of old.