Good Kids

[Jim Stewart]

Jay's posts about his son and flying remind me
of the family of my hanger mate.

Saturday morning, my instructor and I were standing
outside the hanger talking. A car pulls up full
of teenagers. I recognize at least 2 of them as
my hanger mate's kids and I know from talking to
him that they have PPL's.

We watch as they pile out of the car, swarm over
the Piper Arrow with each of them doing a portion
of the preflight, push the plane out and mount
up. The tallest girl takes the left seat, yells
"clear prop" and they are off.

Good kids.

[Gatt]

"Jim Stewart" > wrote in message
.. .

> We watch as they pile out of the car, swarm over
> the Piper Arrow with each of them doing a portion
> of the preflight, push the plane out and mount
> up. The tallest girl takes the left seat, yells
> "clear prop" and they are off.

"Each of them doing a portion of the preflight."

OTOH, at least they did one. There was a guy with a Warrior in Troutdale
who "filled up his tanks when he was done flying" so that when it was time
to go he could just hop in and take off. Don't know whatever happened to
him, but the last time I saw his airplane he'd left the storm window open,
to the apparent joy of a family of swallows.


-c

[[email protected]]

On Nov 26, 1:52 pm, "Gatt" > wrote:
> "Jim Stewart" > wrote in message
>
> .. .
>
> > We watch as they pile out of the car, swarm over
> > the Piper Arrow with each of them doing a portion
> > of the preflight, push the plane out and mount
> > up. The tallest girl takes the left seat, yells
> > "clear prop" and they are off.
>
> "Each of them doing a portion of the preflight."
>
> OTOH, at least they did one. There was a guy with a Warrior in Troutdale
> who "filled up his tanks when he was done flying" so that when it was time
> to go he could just hop in and take off. Don't know whatever happened to
> him, but the last time I saw his airplane he'd left the storm window open,
> to the apparent joy of a family of swallows.
>
> -c

Hey, at least there were experienced flyers in the left seat!

[Matt W. Barrow]

"Gatt" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jim Stewart" > wrote in message
> .. .
>
>> We watch as they pile out of the car, swarm over
>> the Piper Arrow with each of them doing a portion
>> of the preflight, push the plane out and mount
>> up. The tallest girl takes the left seat, yells
>> "clear prop" and they are off.
>
> "Each of them doing a portion of the preflight."
>
> OTOH, at least they did one. There was a guy with a Warrior in Troutdale
> who "filled up his tanks when he was done flying" so that when it was time
> to go he could just hop in and take off. Don't know whatever happened to
> him, but the last time I saw his airplane he'd left the storm window open,
> to the apparent joy of a family of swallows.
>
Was that an African swallow, or a European swallow?

[Gatt]

"Matt W. Barrow" > wrote in message
...

>> Don't know whatever happened to him, but the last time I saw his
>> airplane he'd left the storm window open, to the apparent joy of a family
>> of swallows.
>>
> Was that an African swallow, or a European swallow?

Might have been sparrows or starlings for all I know. They all poop the
same. Sure did a number to his interior.

-c

[Rich Ahrens[_2_]]

Gatt wrote:
> "Matt W. Barrow" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>> Don't know whatever happened to him, but the last time I saw his
>>> airplane he'd left the storm window open, to the apparent joy of a family
>>> of swallows.
>>>
>> Was that an African swallow, or a European swallow?
>
> Might have been sparrows or starlings for all I know. They all poop the
> same. Sure did a number to his interior.

But what is airspeed velocity of an unladen starling?

[Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe]

Gatt" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jim Stewart" > wrote in message
> .. .
>
>> We watch as they pile out of the car, swarm over
>> the Piper Arrow with each of them doing a portion
>> of the preflight, push the plane out and mount
>> up. The tallest girl takes the left seat, yells
>> "clear prop" and they are off.
>
> "Each of them doing a portion of the preflight."

And???

What's wrong with "You do the left, I'll do the right"?

My brother and I did that all the time. Communication and Trust.

--
Geoff
The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
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When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.

[Mxsmanic]

Jim Stewart writes:

> Jay's posts about his son and flying remind me
> of the family of my hanger mate.
>
> Saturday morning, my instructor and I were standing
> outside the hanger talking. A car pulls up full
> of teenagers. I recognize at least 2 of them as
> my hanger mate's kids and I know from talking to
> him that they have PPL's.
>
> We watch as they pile out of the car, swarm over
> the Piper Arrow with each of them doing a portion
> of the preflight, push the plane out and mount
> up. The tallest girl takes the left seat, yells
> "clear prop" and they are off.
>
> Good kids.

As compared to?

[Maxwell]

"Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
...
> Jim Stewart writes:
>
>> Jay's posts about his son and flying remind me
>> of the family of my hanger mate.
>>
>> Saturday morning, my instructor and I were standing
>> outside the hanger talking. A car pulls up full
>> of teenagers. I recognize at least 2 of them as
>> my hanger mate's kids and I know from talking to
>> him that they have PPL's.
>>
>> We watch as they pile out of the car, swarm over
>> the Piper Arrow with each of them doing a portion
>> of the preflight, push the plane out and mount
>> up. The tallest girl takes the left seat, yells
>> "clear prop" and they are off.
>>
>> Good kids.
>
> As compared to?

Retards that live in the basement, play with nothing but themselves and
their computers, and are totally convinced they know everything, when they
really don't know ****. Granted the majority, but useless just the same.

[Ron Natalie]

Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe wrote:

> What's wrong with "You do the left, I'll do the right"?
>
> My brother and I did that all the time. Communication and Trust.
>
When we used to tie down outside, Margy would hop into the cockpit
and volunteer to do that part of the preflight while I did the outside.

[Jay Honeck]

> > What's wrong with "You do the left, I'll do the right"?
>
> > My brother and I did that all the time. Communication and Trust.
>
> When we used to tie down outside, Margy would hop into the cockpit
> and volunteer to do that part of the preflight while I did the outside.

Interesting. Mary and I *never* split the preflight duties. The PIC
always does everything from start to finish. We decided to do this
from the first day Mary got her ticket and we had two pilots on board,
under the theory that we would be less likely to forget something.

This system also evolved because one person had to be the "parent in
command", meaning that the "other pilot" was in charge of keeping the
kids from beating each other bloody. Although we are long past
needing to do that (well, most of the time!), the procedure just
stuck.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Shirl]

Jay Honeck > wrote:
> Interesting. Mary and I *never* split the preflight duties. The PIC
> always does everything from start to finish. We decided to do this
> from the first day Mary got her ticket and we had two pilots on board,
> under the theory that we would be less likely to forget something.

I agree, Jay. I usually fly with a pilot/friend, and we don't split
preflight duties for that very reason also -- too easy for both to think
the *other* checked/did it. We do overlap each other though (both do the
checks) on the verification of fuel, oil and cowl latches.

Shirl

[Mxsmanic]

Maxwell writes:

> Retards that live in the basement, play with nothing but themselves and
> their computers, and are totally convinced they know everything, when they
> really don't know ****.

Then it isn't really saying much, is it?

[Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]]

Mxsmanic > wrote in
:

> Maxwell writes:
>
>> Retards that live in the basement, play with nothing but themselves
>> and their computers, and are totally convinced they know everything,
>> when they really don't know ****.
>
> Then it isn't really saying much, is it?


Good grief.


Bertie

[Gatt]

"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com> wrote in message

>> "Each of them doing a portion of the preflight."
>
> And???
>
> What's wrong with "You do the left, I'll do the right"? My brother and I
> did that all the time. Communication and Trust.

Fascinating. When I fly I check everything myself, and if there are other
pilots they are welcome to check too, but, otherwise I always figured it was
my ultimate responsibility. 'Course, that's easy in a Cessna or Arrow.
Also, I don't have a relative or close friend that flies, so it rarely ever
comes up.

-c

[Jim Stewart]

Mxsmanic wrote:
> Jim Stewart writes:
>
>> Jay's posts about his son and flying remind me
>> of the family of my hanger mate.
>>
>> Saturday morning, my instructor and I were standing
>> outside the hanger talking. A car pulls up full
>> of teenagers. I recognize at least 2 of them as
>> my hanger mate's kids and I know from talking to
>> him that they have PPL's.
>>
>> We watch as they pile out of the car, swarm over
>> the Piper Arrow with each of them doing a portion
>> of the preflight, push the plane out and mount
>> up. The tallest girl takes the left seat, yells
>> "clear prop" and they are off.
>>
>> Good kids.
>
> As compared to?

Being broke and stuck in a little
apartment in Paris?

[Maxwell]

> Then it isn't really saying much, is it?

For once you're right,,, you're not much. But that's your own fault.

[Jay Honeck]

> I agree, Jay. I usually fly with a pilot/friend, and we don't split
> preflight duties for that very reason also -- too easy for both to think
> the *other* checked/did it. We do overlap each other though (both do the
> checks) on the verification of fuel, oil and cowl latches.

With the kids now nearly grown, I find that (if I'm not fetching a
quart of oil, or a rag, or something from the hangar) I will usually
follow Mary around during the walk-around, viewing things at a
discreet distance.

I've never caught her forgetting anything yet, but IMHO two sets of
eyes are better than one.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Shirl]

Jay Honeck > wrote:
> With the kids now nearly grown, I find that (if I'm not fetching a
> quart of oil, or a rag, or something from the hangar) I will usually
> follow Mary around during the walk-around, viewing things at a
> discreet distance.
>
> I've never caught her forgetting anything yet, but IMHO two sets of
> eyes are better than one.

Yeah, we sometimes walk around one behind the other during preflight,
too; my point was that we don't *divide* preflight duties.

Shirl

[Mxsmanic]

Jim Stewart writes:

> Being broke and stuck in a little
> apartment in Paris?

That isn't saying much, though.

[Margy Natalie]

Ron Natalie wrote:
> Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe wrote:
>
>> What's wrong with "You do the left, I'll do the right"?
>>
>> My brother and I did that all the time. Communication and Trust.
>>
> When we used to tie down outside, Margy would hop into the cockpit
> and volunteer to do that part of the preflight while I did the outside.

He left out the "When it was cold out Margy would hop into the cockpit..."

I HATE the cold.

Margy