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November 30th 07, 01:11 PM
I've researched the sight for as much info as I can gather for
transponders. The choice now is, which transponder to buy. The
Becker or the Microair? Is one really better than the other? There
is not a real difference in the price point. Is there enough
differencer betwwen warranty, service and reliabilty to choose one
over the other? Your experinces and inputs would be appreciated.
Thanks
Mike Martin
LS3-A
N339P

Tim Mara
November 30th 07, 03:35 PM
I have sold several of both types, as long as you are getting the most
recent revisions on either brand they are quite equal . Neither has been
completely without issues but both are quite good and suitable for glider
use. Select good encoder types, professional installation and you will be
OK. Both are also in stock here and can be shipped immediately. Prices of
these transponders are today are very similar.
Also look at the TPAS (MRXA) systems, these are not transponders but detect
transponder signals from nearby aircraft giving you a warring of potential
incursions.. http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page4.htm ..IMHO a better
solution to glider operators than transponders or transponders alone and
very inexpensive and quite literally no installation since they are
completely portable....these are also available from stock.
tim
Please visit the Wings & Wheels website at www.wingsandwheels.com


> wrote in message
...
> I've researched the sight for as much info as I can gather for
> transponders. The choice now is, which transponder to buy. The
> Becker or the Microair? Is one really better than the other? There
> is not a real difference in the price point. Is there enough
> differencer betwwen warranty, service and reliabilty to choose one
> over the other? Your experinces and inputs would be appreciated.
> Thanks
> Mike Martin
> LS3-A
> N339P

Mike the Strike
November 30th 07, 04:20 PM
On Nov 30, 8:35 am, "Tim Mara" > wrote:
> I have sold several of both types, as long as you are getting the most
> recent revisions on either brand they are quite equal . Neither has been
> completely without issues but both are quite good and suitable for glider
> use. Select good encoder types, professional installation and you will be
> OK. Both are also in stock here and can be shipped immediately. Prices of
> these transponders are today are very similar.
> Also look at the TPAS (MRXA) systems, these are not transponders but detect
> transponder signals from nearby aircraft giving you a warring of potential
> incursions.. http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page4.htm..IMHO a better
> solution to glider operators than transponders or transponders alone and
> very inexpensive and quite literally no installation since they are
> completely portable....these are also available from stock.
> tim
> Please visit the Wings & Wheels website atwww.wingsandwheels.com
>
> > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > I've researched the sight for as much info as I can gather for
> > transponders. The choice now is, which transponder to buy. The
> > Becker or the Microair? Is one really better than the other? There
> > is not a real difference in the price point. Is there enough
> > differencer betwwen warranty, service and reliabilty to choose one
> > over the other? Your experinces and inputs would be appreciated.
> > Thanks
> > Mike Martin
> > LS3-A
> > N339P

I bought a scratch and dent Microair from W&W a couple of years ago
(although I could never figure out what was cosmetically wrong with
it) and it has performed flawlessly. Tucson Gliding Club has
Microairs in most of the club ships and as far as I am aware these are
all performing fine.

I am planning to follow Tim's advice and add a warning device this
year. My transponder seems to deflect larger aircraft under air
traffic control (I've seen airliners and military aircraft take
sometimes quite strong evasive action away from me), but there are a
lot of ******s out there flying SEL and some twins who never seem to
look out of the window. When I can make out individual rivets, I know
I am too close!

Mike

November 30th 07, 06:04 PM
On Nov 30, 5:11 am, wrote:
> I've researched the sight for as much info as I can gather for
> transponders. The choice now is, which transponder to buy. The
> Becker or the Microair? Is one really better than the other? There
> is not a real difference in the price point. Is there enough
> differencer betwwen warranty, service and reliabilty to choose one
> over the other? Your experinces and inputs would be appreciated.
> Thanks
> Mike Martin
> LS3-A
> N339P

Buy the Becker. Without a doubt much better quality all round.
Microair may well have fixed all their past problems with their
products, but they've had to many issues to ever get my money for any
product. My experience was with MicroAir VHF radios, but their
Transponders don't actually have a great reputation either.

Darryl

Tuno
November 30th 07, 06:30 PM
Buy the Microair. My experience with Becker radios has not been good.
Had to send one to Florida to get fixed two years ago and it cost more
than half what a brand new one would have. I appealed the size of the
repair bill (they replaced one small circuit board) and their reply
was the same one I got from the hospital that upcoded my stitches --
"that's too bad".

-ted/2NO

Tim Mara
November 30th 07, 07:32 PM
:o)
and Ditto:
as I said in my previous post, neither Becker or Microair has been better
than the other....both are in fact quite good......but transponders by
nature are going to likely have more issues than normal communications
radios.
tim
Please visit the Wings & Wheels website at www.wingsandwheels.com



> wrote in message
...
> On Nov 30, 5:11 am, wrote:
>> I've researched the sight for as much info as I can gather for
>> transponders. The choice now is, which transponder to buy. The
>> Becker or the Microair? Is one really better than the other? There
>> is not a real difference in the price point. Is there enough
>> differencer betwwen warranty, service and reliabilty to choose one
>> over the other? Your experinces and inputs would be appreciated.
>> Thanks
>> Mike Martin
>> LS3-A
>> N339P
>
> Buy the Becker. Without a doubt much better quality all round.
> Microair may well have fixed all their past problems with their
> products, but they've had to many issues to ever get my money for any
> product. My experience was with MicroAir VHF radios, but their
> Transponders don't actually have a great reputation either.
>
> Darryl

Tim Mara
November 30th 07, 07:32 PM
:o)
and Ditto:
as I said in my previous post, neither Microair or Becker has been better
than the other....both are in fact quite good......but transponders by
nature are going to likely have more issues than normal communications
radios.
tim
Please visit the Wings & Wheels website at www.wingsandwheels.com

"Tuno" > wrote in message
...
> Buy the Microair. My experience with Becker radios has not been good.
> Had to send one to Florida to get fixed two years ago and it cost more
> than half what a brand new one would have. I appealed the size of the
> repair bill (they replaced one small circuit board) and their reply
> was the same one I got from the hospital that upcoded my stitches --
> "that's too bad".
>
> -ted/2NO

December 1st 07, 05:58 PM
On Nov 30, 8:11 am, wrote:
> I've researched the sight for as much info as I can gather for
> transponders. The choice now is, which transponder to buy. The
> Becker or the Microair? Is one really better than the other? There
> is not a real difference in the price point. Is there enough
> differencer betwwen warranty, service and reliabilty to choose one
> over the other? Your experinces and inputs would be appreciated.
> Thanks
> Mike Martin
> LS3-A
> N339P

Anybody have any luck with the new Becker mode S ?
I've had one on back-order for 1.5 years...

One of my buddies tried the new Garrecht unit,
it was DOA (though alledgedly working when the
plane was shipped to him). Took forever to get
repaired, seems OK now. Any other feedback
on the Garrecht unit ?

Thanks in advance !

Richard[_1_]
December 1st 07, 07:32 PM
On Dec 1, 9:58 am, wrote:
> On Nov 30, 8:11 am, wrote:
>
> > I've researched the sight for as much info as I can gather for
> > transponders. The choice now is, which transponder to buy. The
> > Becker or the Microair? Is one really better than the other? There
> > is not a real difference in the price point. Is there enough
> > differencer betwwen warranty, service and reliabilty to choose one
> > over the other? Your experinces and inputs would be appreciated.
> > Thanks
> > Mike Martin
> > LS3-A
> > N339P
>
> Anybody have any luck with the new Becker mode S ?
> I've had one on back-order for 1.5 years...
>
> One of my buddies tried the new Garrecht unit,
> it was DOA (though alledgedly working when the
> plane was shipped to him). Took forever to get
> repaired, seems OK now. Any other feedback
> on the Garrecht unit ?
>
> Thanks in advance !

I don't believe the Garrecht is yet certified in the US.

I have had some problems with the MicroAir T2000 installations, not
with the T2000 but with AmerKing encoder.
Apparently AmerKing powder coated their case and this removed a common
ground.

I think the demand in Europe is so large, that Becker and Garrecht are
concentrating on that market.

I sell both the Becker and the Microair.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

bobcaldwell
December 5th 07, 10:25 PM
On Dec 1, 12:32 pm, Richard > wrote:
> On Dec 1, 9:58 am, wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 30, 8:11 am, wrote:
>
> > > I've researched the sight for as much info as I can gather for
> > > transponders. The choice now is, which transponder to buy. The
> > > Becker or the Microair? Is one really better than the other? There
> > > is not a real difference in the price point. Is there enough
> > > differencer betwwen warranty, service and reliabilty to choose one
> > > over the other? Your experinces and inputs would be appreciated.
> > > Thanks
> > > Mike Martin
> > > LS3-A
> > > N339P
>
> > Anybody have any luck with the new Becker mode S ?
> > I've had one on back-order for 1.5 years...
>
> > One of my buddies tried the new Garrecht unit,
> > it was DOA (though alledgedly working when the
> > plane was shipped to him). Took forever to get
> > repaired, seems OK now. Any other feedback
> > on the Garrecht unit ?
>
> > Thanks in advance !
>
> I don't believe the Garrecht is yet certified in the US.
>
> I have had some problems with the MicroAir T2000 installations, not
> with the T2000 but with AmerKing encoder.
> Apparently AmerKing powder coated their case and this removed a common
> ground.
>
> I think the demand in Europe is so large, that Becker and Garrecht are
> concentrating on that market.
>
> I sell both the Becker and the Microair.
>
> Richardwww.craggyaero.com



I installed a Becker last winter and it has performed flawlessly. I
felt that everything about the unit was first rate. Our club (Soaring
Society of Boulder) has had problems with Becker radios like mentioned
by Tuno but their XPDR has been great.

I do biz with most of the soaring equipment dealers and have had good
experiences with them all. That said, Cumulus Soaring supplied my
Becker unit, encoder and cables and did an exceptional job of
assisting me in the installation. Further, make sure you read Eric
Greenwell's articles about XPDR's before venturing forward.

Bob Caldwell

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