WSI weather?

[Paul kgyy]

Every once in a while during a TAP browse I encounter a "WSI" weather
system. I've looked at their site but it seems short on information.

Is this the system that requires the GDL49/69 box to display on a
Garmin screen?

Anybody know about cost compared with XM?

[Matt W. Barrow]

"Paul kgyy" > wrote in message
...
> Every once in a while during a TAP browse I encounter a "WSI" weather
> system. I've looked at their site but it seems short on information.

TAP or WSI's is short of info?

>
> Is this the system that requires the GDL49/69 box to display on a
> Garmin screen?

IIUC, any weather/flight data needs the GDL49/69.

>
> Anybody know about cost compared with XM?

WSI is more known for their online weather briefings. Great stuff in that
regard.

http://www.wsi.com/solutions/aviation/
--
Matt Barrow
Performance Homes, LLC.
Cheyenne, WY

[Paul kgyy]

I did eventually find out that the cost and features of their download
appears identical to XM.

Too bad you have to have a $5000 box (I think) to receive it.

[Darrel Toepfer]

Paul kgyy > wrote:

> I did eventually find out that the cost and features of their download
> appears identical to XM.
>
> Too bad you have to have a $5000 box (I think) to receive it.

I like Bushnell's pricing for subscriptions!!!

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[Matt W. Barrow]

"Paul kgyy" > wrote in message
...
>I did eventually find out that the cost and features of their download
> appears identical to XM.
>
> Too bad you have to have a $5000 box (I think) to receive it.

That $5000 provides something that MX doesn't...by a long shot; approved
weather briefing.

[Peter Clark]

On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:14:33 -0700, "Matt W. Barrow"
> wrote:

>
>"Paul kgyy" > wrote in message
...
>>I did eventually find out that the cost and features of their download
>> appears identical to XM.
>>
>> Too bad you have to have a $5000 box (I think) to receive it.
>
>That $5000 provides something that MX doesn't...by a long shot; approved
>weather briefing.

The $5000 WSI in-flight weather box (from what I can tell it's
completely function-equivelant to the Garmin GDL69/69A) is an approved
weather briefing source? Or have I lost the context of this thread
somewhere?

[Matt W. Barrow]

"Peter Clark" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:14:33 -0700, "Matt W. Barrow"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Paul kgyy" > wrote in message
...
>>>I did eventually find out that the cost and features of their download
>>> appears identical to XM.
>>>
>>> Too bad you have to have a $5000 box (I think) to receive it.
>>
>>That $5000 provides something that MX doesn't...by a long shot; approved
>>weather briefing.
>
> The $5000 WSI in-flight weather box (from what I can tell it's
> completely function-equivelant to the Garmin GDL69/69A) is an approved
> weather briefing source? Or have I lost the context of this thread
> somewhere?

If he's talking about the AV300, it's not $5000, even with installation.
It's quite equivalent to the Garmin 69/A.

Pilotbrief Pro, is about $5,000 and provides briefing services.

[Peter Clark]

On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 13:16:33 -0700, "Matt W. Barrow"
> wrote:

>
>"Peter Clark" > wrote in message
...
>> On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:14:33 -0700, "Matt W. Barrow"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Paul kgyy" > wrote in message
...
>>>>I did eventually find out that the cost and features of their download
>>>> appears identical to XM.
>>>>
>>>> Too bad you have to have a $5000 box (I think) to receive it.
>>>
>>>That $5000 provides something that MX doesn't...by a long shot; approved
>>>weather briefing.
>>
>> The $5000 WSI in-flight weather box (from what I can tell it's
>> completely function-equivelant to the Garmin GDL69/69A) is an approved
>> weather briefing source? Or have I lost the context of this thread
>> somewhere?
>
>If he's talking about the AV300, it's not $5000, even with installation.
>It's quite equivalent to the Garmin 69/A.
>
>Pilotbrief Pro, is about $5,000 and provides briefing services.

OK, the OP was:

"Every once in a while during a TAP browse I encounter a "WSI" weather
system. I've looked at their site but it seems short on information.

Is this the system that requires the GDL49/69 box to display on a
Garmin screen?

Anybody know about cost compared with XM?"

Since that's in-flight, perhaps Paul was looking at the wrong product
in the WSI price list, since the original query seems to be
specifically about their airborne equipment as found in listings found
on Trade-A-Plane.

[Matt W. Barrow]

"Peter Clark" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 13:16:33 -0700, "Matt W. Barrow"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Peter Clark" > wrote in message
...
>>> On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:14:33 -0700, "Matt W. Barrow"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Paul kgyy" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>I did eventually find out that the cost and features of their download
>>>>> appears identical to XM.
>>>>>
>>>>> Too bad you have to have a $5000 box (I think) to receive it.
>>>>
>>>>That $5000 provides something that MX doesn't...by a long shot; approved
>>>>weather briefing.
>>>
>>> The $5000 WSI in-flight weather box (from what I can tell it's
>>> completely function-equivelant to the Garmin GDL69/69A) is an approved
>>> weather briefing source? Or have I lost the context of this thread
>>> somewhere?
>>
>>If he's talking about the AV300, it's not $5000, even with installation.
>>It's quite equivalent to the Garmin 69/A.
>>
>>Pilotbrief Pro, is about $5,000 and provides briefing services.
>
> OK, the OP was:
>
> "Every once in a while during a TAP browse I encounter a "WSI" weather
> system. I've looked at their site but it seems short on information.
>
> Is this the system that requires the GDL49/69 box to display on a
> Garmin screen?

Does the TAP ad say it has a Garmin something or other? Usually the WSI
airborne system is use for the AviDyne MFD.

>
> Anybody know about cost compared with XM?"
>
> Since that's in-flight, perhaps Paul was looking at the wrong product
> in the WSI price list, since the original query seems to be
> specifically about their airborne equipment as found in listings found
> on Trade-A-Plane.

WSI in-flight is more typically used with AviDyne and other higher end
avionics like the stuff from Honeywell and Universal. It would be good to
know what the TAP ad's showed regarding the rest of the avionics suite
aboard.

[Peter Clark]

On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 15:49:47 -0700, "Matt W. Barrow"
> wrote:

>

>
>Does the TAP ad say it has a Garmin something or other? Usually the WSI
>airborne system is use for the AviDyne MFD.
>
>>
>> Anybody know about cost compared with XM?"
>>
>> Since that's in-flight, perhaps Paul was looking at the wrong product
>> in the WSI price list, since the original query seems to be
>> specifically about their airborne equipment as found in listings found
>> on Trade-A-Plane.
>
>WSI in-flight is more typically used with AviDyne and other higher end
>avionics like the stuff from Honeywell and Universal. It would be good to
>know what the TAP ad's showed regarding the rest of the avionics suite
>aboard.
>

Not according to WSI.
http://www.wsi.com/aviation/products/inflight/displays.asp

They seem to be able to display on all sorts of stuff, including
EHSIs, EFBs, laptops, and PDAs.

Strange the King KMD550/850 isn't listed. The Garmin 430/530 and MX20
(GMX200) are though. It doesn't need an Avidyne MFD system like an
SR22 to run.

[Matt W. Barrow]

"Peter Clark" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 15:49:47 -0700, "Matt W. Barrow"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>
>>
>>Does the TAP ad say it has a Garmin something or other? Usually the WSI
>>airborne system is use for the AviDyne MFD.
>>
>>>
>>> Anybody know about cost compared with XM?"
>>>
>>> Since that's in-flight, perhaps Paul was looking at the wrong product
>>> in the WSI price list, since the original query seems to be
>>> specifically about their airborne equipment as found in listings found
>>> on Trade-A-Plane.
>>
>>WSI in-flight is more typically used with AviDyne and other higher end
>>avionics like the stuff from Honeywell and Universal. It would be good to
>>know what the TAP ad's showed regarding the rest of the avionics suite
>>aboard.
>>
>
> Not according to WSI.
> http://www.wsi.com/aviation/products/inflight/displays.asp
>
> They seem to be able to display on all sorts of stuff, including
> EHSIs, EFBs, laptops, and PDAs.

Geez...

>
> Strange the King KMD550/850 isn't listed.

The King system is proprietary and transmitters are land-based, not
satellite.


> The Garmin 430/530 and MX20
> (GMX200) are though. It doesn't need an Avidyne MFD system like an
> SR22 to run.

[Peter Clark]

On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 21:55:50 -0700, "Matt W. Barrow"
> wrote:


>
>>
>> Strange the King KMD550/850 isn't listed.
>
>The King system is proprietary and transmitters are land-based, not
>satellite.

The King KDR510 is their ground uplink system, the KDR610 is their new
XM WXWorx based system. I was just saying that I found it strange
that the King KMD550/850 (their MFD box as found in lots of Nav II
Cessna aircraft) wasn't on the list of units that could display the
weather from the WSI unit.

[Paul kgyy]

> If he's talking about the AV300, it's not $5000, even with installation.
> It's quite equivalent to the Garmin 69/A.
>
> Pilotbrief Pro, is about $5,000 and provides briefing services.

I was making an assumption that a GDL69 would have to be used, and my
understanding is that those run around $5,000.

it does appear that WSI has their own receivers, but I'm not clear
about pricing and what they interface with.

[xyzzy]

On Dec 3, 1:39 pm, Darrel Toepfer > wrote:
http://bushnell.com/gps/gps_onix400.cfm?section=GPShttp://bushnell.com/gps/gps_features_xm_weather.cfm
>
> Subscription Pricing Plans
> XM Satellite Radio (only)
> $12.95 / month
> Less than $0.50 per day!
>
> XM Weather (only)
> Price - $9.95
>
> XM Radio & XM Weather
> Price - $16.94
>

I have to wonder how complete the weather is. I couldn't tell from
the site but I bet it's only nexrad and 3-day forecasts. I bet
there's no metars, tafs, etc that pilots would need.

[Gig 601XL Builder]

xyzzy wrote:
> On Dec 3, 1:39 pm, Darrel Toepfer > wrote:
> http://bushnell.com/gps/gps_onix400.cfm?section=GPShttp://bushnell.com/gps/gps_features_xm_weather.cfm
>>
>> Subscription Pricing Plans
>> XM Satellite Radio (only)
>> $12.95 / month
>> Less than $0.50 per day!
>>
>> XM Weather (only)
>> Price - $9.95
>>
>> XM Radio & XM Weather
>> Price - $16.94
>>
>
> I have to wonder how complete the weather is. I couldn't tell from
> the site but I bet it's only nexrad and 3-day forecasts. I bet
> there's no metars, tafs, etc that pilots would need.


Wonder no more. The only $9.99 XM weather package I was ablt to find was in
their Marine Skywatch package.

Here's what the package includes. Radar Summary,Radar Coverage, City
Forecasts, Weather Warnings & Surface Observations.

[Morgans[_2_]]

"xyzzy" > wrote in message
...
> On Dec 3, 1:39 pm, Darrel Toepfer > wrote:
> http://bushnell.com/gps/gps_onix400.cfm?section=GPShttp://bushnell.com/gps/gps_features_xm_weather.cfm
>>
>> Subscription Pricing Plans
>> XM Satellite Radio (only)
>> $12.95 / month
>> Less than $0.50 per day!
>>
>> XM Weather (only)
>> Price - $9.95
>>
>> XM Radio & XM Weather
>> Price - $16.94
>>
>
> I have to wonder how complete the weather is. I couldn't tell from
> the site but I bet it's only nexrad and 3-day forecasts. I bet
> there's no metars, tafs, etc that pilots would need.

That was my thought.

The unit looks like it is lacking in almost everything a pilot would want to
have in a GPS. The view of aerial pictures of the current location is a
neat gimmick, but also probably not too useful for pilots.
--
Jim in NC

[Peter R.]

On 12/3/2007 5:57:41 PM, Peter Clark wrote:

> Not according to WSI.
> http://www.wsi.com/aviation/products/inflight/displays.asp
>
> They seem to be able to display on all sorts of stuff, including
> EHSIs, EFBs, laptops, and PDAs.

I have WSI downlink in my Bonanza and it is displayed on my Garmin MX20
moving map. Occasionally the WSI receiver causes the MX20, which is running a
flavor of Windows NT, to crash. Fun, fun, fun.

Pretty soon I will be sending the Bonanza in for the WSI receiver upgrade
that all WSI customers must do before spring 08. WSI is switching satellite
carriers to the Sirius system, which hopefully will make the datalink more
reliable than in the past.

--
Peter

[Peter Clark]

On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 07:39:03 -0800 (PST), Paul kgyy
> wrote:

>> If he's talking about the AV300, it's not $5000, even with installation.
>> It's quite equivalent to the Garmin 69/A.
>>
>> Pilotbrief Pro, is about $5,000 and provides briefing services.
>
>I was making an assumption that a GDL69 would have to be used, and my
>understanding is that those run around $5,000.

GDL69 provides XM WxWorx package and wouldn't be subscribing to WSI at
all.