kid foams hangar

[gatt[_2_]]

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/offbeat/2007/12/10/foam.mishap.in.hangar.cnn

-c

[ManhattanMan]

gatt wrote:
> http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/offbeat/2007/12/10/foam.mishap.in.hangar.cnn
>
> -c

Hey, ain't funny. I was aboard the USS Kearsarge back around '62 when the
same thing happened on the hanger deck of the aircraft carrier, although it
wasn't from some little kid (maybe a big kid), and it was out in the middle
of the Pacific Ocean. If I had a slide to digital converter I could show a
few nice or not so nice shots. :) Not a pleasant experience, and I believe
someone told me at the time it had dried animal blood as a major ingredient.
Luckily, I wasn't in the cleanup crew........

Cheers'n beers.. [_])
Don

[ABLE_1[_2_]]

Don,

Your right. In the sixties the Navy foam was made from Animal Fat and Blood
and was mixed with water thru a foam nozzle. The raw stuff had an AROMA.
Don't know is that mix is still used today. Maybe someone else will know.

Les
USS Providence CLG-6


> Hey, ain't funny. I was aboard the USS Kearsarge back around '62 when the
> same thing happened on the hanger deck of the aircraft carrier, although
> it wasn't from some little kid (maybe a big kid), and it was out in the
> middle of the Pacific Ocean. If I had a slide to digital converter I
> could show a few nice or not so nice shots. :) Not a pleasant
> experience, and I believe someone told me at the time it had dried animal
> blood as a major ingredient. Luckily, I wasn't in the cleanup crew........
>
> Cheers'n beers.. [_])
> Don
>

[gatt[_2_]]

"ABLE_1" > wrote in message
...

>> Hey, ain't funny. I was aboard the USS Kearsarge back around '62 when
>> the same thing happened on the hanger deck of the aircraft carrier

A close relative just completed a tour aboard the Oak Hill, which was
supporting Kearsarge in the Gulf earlier this year.

Recent sea story: (As always, take it for what it's worth, but two separate
people told me about it.) Earlier this year they responded to a freighter
hijacking and found out that the pirates had killed the crew. The Marines
of the MEU in the fleet were bored off their ass an itching for a fight and
then somebody told them "The Navy is handling it."

That didn't go over well at all until a helicopter filled with SEALs landed
on one of the ships at which point Jeremy said the Marines pretty much stood
down. The SEALs prepped for a full assault of the ship and launched in
zodiac(s). The hijackers holed up inside the hull and prepared for a
gunbattle...remember, all the crew had been murdered...and the SEALs drew up
alongside, planted some charges around the hull, withdrew and sank the whole
damn thing where it sat.

The other fellow--a maintenance type aboard a minesweeper in the same
fleet--just grinned and nodded his head. As a sailor apparently he's not
allowed to talk about that sort of thing, but basically alluded to the idea
that you don't hear a fraction of what they're doing out there with regard
to Somali pirates; only the cases where the media finds out. In those
cases, the Navy has to keep mum and play nice.

The ol' Kearsarge is still out there getting some!

-c

[Kloudy via AviationKB.com]

gatt wrote:
>>> Hey, ain't funny. I was aboard the USS Kearsarge back around '62 when
>>> the same thing happened on the hanger deck of the aircraft carrier
>
>A close relative just completed a tour aboard the Oak Hill, which was
>supporting Kearsarge in the Gulf earlier this year.
>
>Recent sea story: (As always, take it for what it's worth, but two separate
>people told me about it.) Earlier this year they responded to a freighter
>hijacking and found out that the pirates had killed the crew. The Marines
>of the MEU in the fleet were bored off their ass an itching for a fight and
>then somebody told them "The Navy is handling it."
>
>That didn't go over well at all until a helicopter filled with SEALs landed
>on one of the ships at which point Jeremy said the Marines pretty much stood
>down. The SEALs prepped for a full assault of the ship and launched in
>zodiac(s). The hijackers holed up inside the hull and prepared for a
>gunbattle...remember, all the crew had been murdered...and the SEALs drew up
>alongside, planted some charges around the hull, withdrew and sank the whole
>damn thing where it sat.
>
>The other fellow--a maintenance type aboard a minesweeper in the same
>fleet--just grinned and nodded his head. As a sailor apparently he's not
>allowed to talk about that sort of thing, but basically alluded to the idea
>that you don't hear a fraction of what they're doing out there with regard
>to Somali pirates; only the cases where the media finds out. In those
>cases, the Navy has to keep mum and play nice.
>
>The ol' Kearsarge is still out there getting some!
>
>-c
I found it interesting how much maritime piracy occurs and how little we hear
about it.
I only started looking at it when some friends got "mugged" aboard their
sailboat in the Carribean.
Some of these cats, particularly in Indonesian and some African coastal
waters, are pretty desperate and murder of entire crews is on the rise.
"The Outlaw Sea" was a pretty good read on the matter.

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[ManhattanMan]

gatt wrote:
>
> The ol' Kearsarge is still out there getting some!
>

Yep, the Kearsarge name is still cookin! Started with a wooden side
warship, later a WWII version of a CVA carrier (aviation attack), later
demoted to CVS (anti-sub), and that's what I was on. CVS-33, same as the
Yorktown, Lexington, etc., and was turned into Toyota's at least 20 years
ago. The 'new' Kearsarge, LHD-3, is a amphibious assault ship. My version
ended up with the nickname "The can opener", after it rammed a destroyer in
San Francisco bay fog, then another incident I think around Long Beach, and
while I was aboard, a DE approached us to come along side for fuel, got
caught in a big swell (or something???), and side swiped the carrier. It
chipped our paint, but the side of the DE was totally caved in, seriously
injuring about three crewmembers. I was standing on the flight deck
watching, and couldn't believe what I was seeing!! Also was aboard in '62
when we picked up Wally Shirra, then '63 for Gordon Cooper - and the
memories - priceless!!

[ABLE_1[_2_]]

Hi ManhattanMan,

Yea the ship name thing is kinda warped from my view point. Some pencil
pusher at SecNav seems to have too much time on there hands. My ship the
USS Providence CLG-6 was a Light Guided Missle Cruiser and carried the Flag
for 1st and 7th Fleet in the 60's. We went where the Admiral wanted and
when he wanted.

Now since she has been de-commissinoned and is in mothballs or Toyota's (not
sure which at this time) they have given the name to a Submarine. Now that
really hurts this ol' salt.

But time marches on and I will get over
it..................................some day. :-)

Les




The ol' Kearsarge is still out there getting some!
>>
>
> Yep, the Kearsarge name is still cookin! Started with a wooden side
> warship, later a WWII version of a CVA carrier (aviation attack), later
> demoted to CVS (anti-sub), and that's what I was on. CVS-33, same as the
> Yorktown, Lexington, etc., and was turned into Toyota's at least 20 years
> ago. The 'new' Kearsarge, LHD-3, is a amphibious assault ship. My
> version ended up with the nickname "The can opener", after it rammed a
> destroyer in San Francisco bay fog, then another incident I think around
> Long Beach, and while I was aboard, a DE approached us to come along side
> for fuel, got caught in a big swell (or something???), and side swiped the
> carrier. It chipped our paint, but the side of the DE was totally caved
> in, seriously injuring about three crewmembers. I was standing on the
> flight deck watching, and couldn't believe what I was seeing!! Also was
> aboard in '62 when we picked up Wally Shirra, then '63 for Gordon Cooper -
> and the memories - priceless!!
>

[Morgans[_2_]]

"gatt" > wrote
>
> The ol' Kearsarge is still out there getting some!
That would correctly be, "the *new* Kearsarge is out there getting some."

The Kearsarge that was referenced earlier in the thread was scrapped in '74,
after construction as a Ticonderoga carrier in 46. The new Kearsarge was
commissioned in 93, I think I read, and carries helicopters, Harriers, and
Osprey, along with conventional landing craft, and hovercraft, and is
typically part of a Marine expeditionary force.
--
Jim in NC

[Aluckyguess]

"Kloudy via AviationKB.com" <u33403@uwe> wrote in message
news:7c8a6fdc132a2@uwe...
> gatt wrote:
>>>> Hey, ain't funny. I was aboard the USS Kearsarge back around '62 when
>>>> the same thing happened on the hanger deck of the aircraft carrier
>>
>>A close relative just completed a tour aboard the Oak Hill, which was
>>supporting Kearsarge in the Gulf earlier this year.
>>
>>Recent sea story: (As always, take it for what it's worth, but two
>>separate
>>people told me about it.) Earlier this year they responded to a
>>freighter
>>hijacking and found out that the pirates had killed the crew. The Marines
>>of the MEU in the fleet were bored off their ass an itching for a fight
>>and
>>then somebody told them "The Navy is handling it."
>>
>>That didn't go over well at all until a helicopter filled with SEALs
>>landed
>>on one of the ships at which point Jeremy said the Marines pretty much
>>stood
>>down. The SEALs prepped for a full assault of the ship and launched in
>>zodiac(s). The hijackers holed up inside the hull and prepared for a
>>gunbattle...remember, all the crew had been murdered...and the SEALs drew
>>up
>>alongside, planted some charges around the hull, withdrew and sank the
>>whole
>>damn thing where it sat.
>>
>>The other fellow--a maintenance type aboard a minesweeper in the same
>>fleet--just grinned and nodded his head. As a sailor apparently he's not
>>allowed to talk about that sort of thing, but basically alluded to the
>>idea
>>that you don't hear a fraction of what they're doing out there with regard
>>to Somali pirates; only the cases where the media finds out. In those
>>cases, the Navy has to keep mum and play nice.
>>
>>The ol' Kearsarge is still out there getting some!
>>
>>-c
> I found it interesting how much maritime piracy occurs and how little we
> hear
> about it.
> I only started looking at it when some friends got "mugged" aboard their
> sailboat in the Carribean.
> Some of these cats, particularly in Indonesian and some African coastal
> waters, are pretty desperate and murder of entire crews is on the rise.
> "The Outlaw Sea" was a pretty good read on the matter.
>
A friend was telling me about a friend of his who does a lot fishing in
panama there ship is fully alarmed if any one or anything touches the deck
why they sleep. Its bullet proof and has a holes for m16's. So if pirates
jump aboard there dead.
> --
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>

[gatt[_2_]]

"Kloudy via AviationKB.com" <u33403@uwe> wrote in message
news:7c8a6fdc132a2@uwe...

> I only started looking at it when some friends got "mugged" aboard their
> sailboat in the Carribean.

Whoa. They made it out alright, I hope.

> Some of these cats, particularly in Indonesian and some African coastal
> waters, are pretty desperate and murder of entire crews is on the rise.

Fortunately it sounds like the SEALS have a solution for that, but there are
of course environmental concerns with sinking a tanker loaded with bunker
fuel and, say, benzene.... which might be why don't hear about it so much
in the news.

-c

[gatt[_2_]]

"ManhattanMan" > wrote in message
...
> gatt wrote:
>>
>> The ol' Kearsarge is still out there getting some!
>>
>
> Yep, the Kearsarge name is still cookin! Started with a wooden side
> warship, later a WWII version of a CVA carrier (aviation attack), later
> demoted to CVS (anti-sub), and that's what I was on. CVS-33, same as the
> Yorktown, Lexington, etc., and was turned into Toyota's at least 20 years
> ago. The 'new' Kearsarge, LHD-3, is a amphibious assault ship.

Thanks for clarifying that. So it was the 'old' Kearsarge that recovered
the astronauts and not the new one I take it?

-c

[gatt[_2_]]

"Morgans" > wrote in message
...

> The Kearsarge that was referenced earlier in the thread was scrapped in
> '74, after construction as a Ticonderoga carrier in 46. The new Kearsarge
> was commissioned in 93, I think I read, and carries helicopters, Harriers,
> and Osprey, along with conventional landing craft, and hovercraft, and is
> typically part of a Marine expeditionary force.

Yeah, that's the one. They were off chasing pirates and doing drills to
simulate an Iranian attack. For awhile they were painting schools in
Djabouti. I notice the media doesn't tell us about Marines building schools
in third-world countries, but what the MEU really wanted to know was, why
were they painting classrooms and trying to get back into action while
National Guard and reserve units in Iraq are being re-redeployed?

The old salts know the answer: "Situation Normal...."

-c

[Bob Fry]

>>>>> "Kloudy" == Kloudy via AviationKB com <Kloudy> writes:

Kloudy> I found it interesting how much maritime piracy occurs and
Kloudy> how little we hear about it. I only started looking at it
Kloudy> when some friends got "mugged" aboard their sailboat in
Kloudy> the Carribean. Some of these cats, particularly in
Kloudy> Indonesian and some African coastal waters, are pretty
Kloudy> desperate and murder of entire crews is on the rise. "The
Kloudy> Outlaw Sea" was a pretty good read on the matter.

The Outlaw Sea, by William Langewiesche.
(http://www.amazon.com/Outlaw-Sea-World-Freedom-Chaos/dp/0865475814)

Yep, the son of the well-known Wolfgang (well, well-known to us, but
if you google just the last name, pretty much only William turns up.)
William is a professional pilot but his fame--and fortune I'm sure by
now--come from his non-fiction writing, both books and as a national
correspondent for The Atlantic Monthly magazine. BTW, if you want to
read very consistently good and thoughtful prose about events,
subscribe to The Atlantic.

William seems to make his living by living close to the edge for a
while, then writing about it. I'm a big fan of his work. He lives
what Hollywood fantasizes about.
--
Heresy is a cradle; orthodoxy a coffin.
~ Robert G. Ingersoll

[ManhattanMan]

gatt wrote:
> "ManhattanMan" > wrote in message
> ...
>> gatt wrote:
>>>
>>> The ol' Kearsarge is still out there getting some!
>>>
>>
>> Yep, the Kearsarge name is still cookin! Started with a wooden side
>> warship, later a WWII version of a CVA carrier (aviation attack),
>> later demoted to CVS (anti-sub), and that's what I was on. CVS-33,
>> same as the Yorktown, Lexington, etc., and was turned into Toyota's
>> at least 20 years ago. The 'new' Kearsarge, LHD-3, is a amphibious
>> assault ship.
>
> Thanks for clarifying that. So it was the 'old' Kearsarge that
> recovered the astronauts and not the new one I take it?
>
> -c

You might call it the middle aged one... :)

[Dave S]

ManhattanMan wrote:
, and I believe
> someone told me at the time it had dried animal blood as a major ingredient.


True. The original protein foams used cows blood as the protein source.

[[email protected]]

> The Outlaw Sea, by William Langewiesche.
> (http://www.amazon.com/Outlaw-Sea-World-Freedom-Chaos/dp/0865475814)

Dang it's out of stock.

I like the idea of sinking a bunch of pirates holed up in a ship where
they killed the entire crew. Would that it were true.

How have things gone so wrong?

[Kloudy via AviationKB.com]

wrote:
>> The Outlaw Sea, by William Langewiesche.
>> (http://www.amazon.com/Outlaw-Sea-World-Freedom-Chaos/dp/0865475814)
>
>Dang it's out of stock.
>
>I like the idea of sinking a bunch of pirates holed up in a ship where
>they killed the entire crew. Would that it were true.
>
>How have things gone so wrong?

Just for "entertainment" ( if that's what you can call this sort of thing ) I
occasionally peruse this sight:
http://www.cargolaw.com/presentations_casualties.html
If you can figure out how to navigate their pages, there is sometimes
interesting/ surprising stuff in the world of cargo loss.
There is a pretty good workup of the recent Toulouse A340 vs blastfence event.

http://cargolaw.com/2007nightmare_a-340.html

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