Looking for maps

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Hello,
I am a professor of digital media and am currently working with
students on techniques for visualizing information systems. I was
hoping that someone could help me find out if there are maps out there
somewhere that might notate the following information:

-Airlanes (skylanes...is that the correct name?) or typical routes of
travel within the US
-Locations or names of air traffic centers in the US

We are attempting to notate and visualize "graphically" the actual
paths of travel of aircraft moving from the west coast to east coast
and vise versa in relationship to the locations of the air traffic
control centers, essentially looking at how an aircraft moves from one
coast to another, where it deviates from a straight line, etc.

Any help you all can offer would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Bob Trempe

[Jim Macklin]

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The "FAA Order" listed below in 71.15 give LAT/LON and name descriptions.

Title 14: Aeronautics and Space
PART 71-DESIGNATION OF CLASS A, B, C, D, AND E AIRSPACE AREAS; AIR TRAFFIC
SERVICE ROUTES; AND REPORTING POINTS

Browse Previous


§ 71.15 Designation of jet routes and VOR Federal airways.
Unless otherwise specified, the place names appearing in the descriptions of
airspace areas designated as jet routes in subpart A of FAA Order 7400.9R,
and as VOR Federal airways in subpart E of FAA Order 7400.9R, are the names
of VOR or VORTAC navigation aids. FAA Order 7400.9R is incorporated by
reference in §71.1.

[Doc. No. FAA-2003-14698, 68 FR 16947, Apr. 8, 2003, as amended by Amdt.
71-37, 70 FR 52013, Sept. 1, 2005; Amdt. 71-38, 71 FR 51994, Sept. 1, 2006;
Amdt. 71-39, 72 FR 49191, Aug. 28, 2007]

Effective Date Note: By Doc. No. 29334, 72 FR 49191, Aug. 28, 2007, §71.15
was amended by removing the words "FAA Order 7400.9P" and adding, in their
place, the words "FAA Order 7400.9R", effective Sept. 15, 2007 through Sept.
15, 2008

> wrote in message
...
| Hello,
| I am a professor of digital media and am currently working with
| students on techniques for visualizing information systems. I was
| hoping that someone could help me find out if there are maps out there
| somewhere that might notate the following information:
|
| -Airlanes (skylanes...is that the correct name?) or typical routes of
| travel within the US
| -Locations or names of air traffic centers in the US
|
| We are attempting to notate and visualize "graphically" the actual
| paths of travel of aircraft moving from the west coast to east coast
| and vise versa in relationship to the locations of the air traffic
| control centers, essentially looking at how an aircraft moves from one
| coast to another, where it deviates from a straight line, etc.
|
| Any help you all can offer would be GREATLY appreciated.
|
| Thanks in advance,
|
| Bob Trempe

[Steven P. McNicoll]

> wrote in message
...
>
> I am a professor of digital media and am currently working with
> students on techniques for visualizing information systems. I was
> hoping that someone could help me find out if there are maps out there
> somewhere that might notate the following information:
>
> -Airlanes (skylanes...is that the correct name?) or typical routes of
> travel within the US
> -Locations or names of air traffic centers in the US
>
> We are attempting to notate and visualize "graphically" the actual
> paths of travel of aircraft moving from the west coast to east coast
> and vise versa in relationship to the locations of the air traffic
> control centers, essentially looking at how an aircraft moves from one
> coast to another, where it deviates from a straight line, etc.
>
> Any help you all can offer would be GREATLY appreciated.
>

Try http://skyvector.com/ . You can enter an airport identifier in the
search box, that will bring up an image of the sectional aeronautical chart
for that location. You can then select high or low altitude enroute charts
that distinctly show airways and Air Route Traffic Control Center boundaries
for that area.

[Marco Leon[_4_]]

> wrote in message news:
> Hello,
> I am a professor of digital media and am currently working with
> students on techniques for visualizing information systems. I was
> hoping that someone could help me find out if there are maps out there
> somewhere that might notate the following information:
>
> -Airlanes (skylanes...is that the correct name?) or typical routes of
> travel within the US
> -Locations or names of air traffic centers in the US
>
> We are attempting to notate and visualize "graphically" the actual
> paths of travel of aircraft moving from the west coast to east coast
> and vise versa in relationship to the locations of the air traffic
> control centers, essentially looking at how an aircraft moves from one
> coast to another, where it deviates from a straight line, etc.

There are two types of airways--high and low altitude. The high are noted
with a "J" and the low are noted with a "V." For more detail see:
http://naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/aero_guide

For the clearest view of what you're looking for, you'll want to look at IFR
enroute charts which focus on the airways that you want. Since you are a
professor of *digital* media, you may be interested in a digital
representation of these airways. There is a free flight planning application
available at www.flightprep.com called Golden Eagle and a pure online
(albeit with less features) app available at www.aeroplanner.com.

Good luck.

Marco

[Tina]

I don't know where you're doing your work, but if there's a major
medical institution around, see if anyone is doing fNMR on brains
during problem solving.

Seeing what happens to brain function (as measured by changes in blood
flow) as naive subjects learn to deal with a different environment is
becoming richly funded. I think subjects working with visual
presentations in the form of maps could be a source of worthwhile
information.

You posted your question on the usenet, there's no telling what kind
of answers and ssuggested diversions you might get! Some might
actually be worthwhile!

You'll appreciate this as well. This writer claims no rights on this
as a research proposal. Anyone claiming such rights will have to show
ownership that predates this. Posted Dec 15, 11:05 AM Eastern Standard
Time.

Hey guys, sorry about the boilerplate.

[Dallas]

On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 08:06:53 -0800 (PST), Tina wrote:

I think you should consider mapping the graphics of fNMR on brains
during problem solving.

Posted Dec 14, 11:05 AM Eastern Standard

:- )
--
Dallas

[Airbus]

In article >,
says...

>
>There are two types of airways--high and low altitude. The high are noted
>with a "J" and the low are noted with a "V." For more detail see:
>http://naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/aero_guide
>
>For the clearest view of what you're looking for, you'll want to look at IFR
>enroute charts which focus on the airways that you want. Since you are a
>professor of *digital* media, you may be interested in a digital
>representation of these airways. There is a free flight planning application
>available at www.flightprep.com called Golden Eagle and a pure online
>(albeit with less features) app available at www.aeroplanner.com.
>


But these charts will not show him what he is looking for, because they say
nothing about what routing any operation has filed for and what they have
received.

Grumman46's response was more to the point. Maybe a combination of the two,
along with some listening in on livbe ATC

[Big John]

On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 08:06:53 -0800 (PST), Tina >
wrote:

>I don't know where you're doing your work, but if there's a major
>medical institution around, see if anyone is doing fNMR on brains
>during problem solving.
>
>Seeing what happens to brain function (as measured by changes in blood
>flow) as naive subjects learn to deal with a different environment is
>becoming richly funded. I think subjects working with visual
>presentations in the form of maps could be a source of worthwhile
>information.
>
>You posted your question on the usenet, there's no telling what kind
>of answers and ssuggested diversions you might get! Some might
>actually be worthwhile!
>
>You'll appreciate this as well. This writer claims no rights on this
>as a research proposal. Anyone claiming such rights will have to show
>ownership that predates this. Posted Dec 15, 11:05 AM Eastern Standard
>Time.
>
>Hey guys, sorry about the boilerplate.
***********************************************

Tina

In 1970-1972, working on my Masters, I researched and developed a
system that read brain waves and was able to get a predictable and
useful output from them.

My ultimate objective was to tie the pilot to a computer and have the
computer fly the airplane. I researched the delay from a decision
until a body movement took place and using brain waves to a computer I
could reduce the decision to aircraft action time and beat the manual
control of flight of bird.

Subject is too long to try to cover in this group.

This posted 14:30 CST, 15 Dec 2007.

Big John

[Andrew Sarangan]

On Dec 14, 12:41 am, wrote:
> Hello,
> I am a professor of digital media and am currently working with
> students on techniques for visualizing information systems. I was
> hoping that someone could help me find out if there are maps out there
> somewhere that might notate the following information:
>
> -Airlanes (skylanes...is that the correct name?) or typical routes of
> travel within the US
> -Locations or names of air traffic centers in the US
>
> We are attempting to notate and visualize "graphically" the actual
> paths of travel of aircraft moving from the west coast to east coast
> and vise versa in relationship to the locations of the air traffic
> control centers, essentially looking at how an aircraft moves from one
> coast to another, where it deviates from a straight line, etc.
>
> Any help you all can offer would be GREATLY appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bob Trempe


A straight line is not the shortest path between two points on earth.
It is called the great circle distance, and looks like a curved line
on a 2D projection map.

The name you are looking for "victor airways" at lower altitudes, and
"jet routes" at higher altitudes.

Here is a description of air traffic control centers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARTCC

www.flightaware.com is probably a good place to start for visualizing
air traffic operations.

[Jose]

> In 1970-1972, working on my Masters, I researched and developed a
> system that read brain waves and was able to get a predictable and
> useful output from them.
>
> My ultimate objective was to tie the pilot to a computer and have the
> computer fly the airplane. I researched the delay from a decision
> until a body movement took place and using brain waves to a computer I
> could reduce the decision to aircraft action time and beat the manual
> control of flight of bird.
>
> Subject is too long to try to cover in this group.

I read about research done some time ago in the military along the same lines, but whose objective was to find errors. It turns out that if a pilot is about to make a mistake, part of his brain knows it before he actually makes the mistake (and he makes it anyway). This was supposed to be used to warn a pilot before he screws up.

Have you heard about this?

Jose
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