Video of approaches in IMC

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Went up to touch some clouds today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHC-s9cl8cE

Using the same technique in creating my last video, put the camera on
the glareshield and pretty much set it and forgot it. While I was VMC,
I did capture some "forward" scenery.

Great day for flying, tops were between 1800 and 2000, ceilings at
KMBO was 700 and 600 ceilings at KHKS.

Video is comprised of taxiing, takeoff, 2 ILS (I actually did three),
one VOR Alpha and landing back at home. I edited most of the IMC part
since just how much viewing pleasure can someone get out of a grey
screen beside me being there in the action.

Where there is an extended amount of IMC in the beginning, I subtitled
the page to break the monotony.

Hope people enjoy the video!

Allen

[B A R R Y]

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:10:33 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>
>Where there is an extended amount of IMC in the beginning, I subtitled
>the page to break the monotony.

I like the shot of the CDI. <G>

What year is your Sundowner? I've got a well cared for '76:
<http://www.bburke.com/images/299_BE23.JPG>

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On Dec 14, 6:42 pm, B A R R Y > wrote:

> What year is your Sundowner? I've got a well cared for '76:
> <http://www.bburke.com/images/299_BE23.JPG>
Nice looking bird you have.

I have a 1976 as well!

http://picasaweb.google.com/allenlieberman/AirplanePics

Allen

[B A R R Y]

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:01:25 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Dec 14, 6:42 pm, B A R R Y > wrote:
>
>> What year is your Sundowner? I've got a well cared for '76:
>> <http://www.bburke.com/images/299_BE23.JPG>
>Nice looking bird you have.
>
>I have a 1976 as well!
>
>http://picasaweb.google.com/allenlieberman/AirplanePics
>
>Allen


Back at 'cha!

What kind of gains did you get from the tips?

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On Dec 15, 6:07 am, B A R R Y > wrote:

> Back at 'cha!
>
> What kind of gains did you get from the tips?

"Comfort" and "looks" from what I was told. They absorb turbulence
better. Probably lost a knot or two in speed, though I don't kow from
first hand experience.

The wing tips were on before I purchased the plane.

I plan 110 knots in my planning with 10 gph (actually I get 9.5)
running about 2350 rpm.

Allen

[LWG]

Al, I liked your video. I have a '78.

Les

> wrote in message
...
> Went up to touch some clouds today.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHC-s9cl8cE
>
> Using the same technique in creating my last video, put the camera on
> the glareshield and pretty much set it and forgot it. While I was VMC,
> I did capture some "forward" scenery.
>
> Great day for flying, tops were between 1800 and 2000, ceilings at
> KMBO was 700 and 600 ceilings at KHKS.
>
> Video is comprised of taxiing, takeoff, 2 ILS (I actually did three),
> one VOR Alpha and landing back at home. I edited most of the IMC part
> since just how much viewing pleasure can someone get out of a grey
> screen beside me being there in the action.
>
> Where there is an extended amount of IMC in the beginning, I subtitled
> the page to break the monotony.
>
> Hope people enjoy the video!
>
> Allen

[Robert M. Gary]

On Dec 14, 4:10 pm, " > wrote:
> Went up to touch some clouds today.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHC-s9cl8cE

I live in the fog valley and often fly approaches where wx is reported
simply as VV001. Several people have asked if I could post a video of
it but I have no idea how to mount the camera. Can you just use velcro
or did you use hardware??
BTW: Its interesting to see the approach lights but not the ground,
you just see the strobbing rabbit through the fog.

-Robert

[Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]]

"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in news:c1b52b99-efe5-428b-bbd6-
:




> you just see the strobbing rabbit through the fog.
>

I've seen that on Animal Planet. My wife says I strobb like a rabbit as
well.


Bertie

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On Dec 15, 9:52 am, "Robert M. Gary" > wrote:

> it but I have no idea how to mount the camera. Can you just use velcro
> or did you use hardware??

I had brought velcro along, not knowing the sticky stuff loses it's
sticky after time, so I had to resort to just putting the camera on
the glareshield, on the pilot side. Air was as pristine as it gets
and as you know in IMC turns are very gradual, so the weight of the
camera was enough to keep it still. Plus, I made all left hand turns
LOL

Someone was very kind enough to lead me to http://stickypod.com/ which
I am looking into.

> BTW: Its interesting to see the approach lights but not the ground,
> you just see the strobbing rabbit through the fog.

Would be kewl to see!

Allen

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On Dec 15, 9:18 am, "LWG" > wrote:
> Al, I liked your video. I have a '78.
>
> Les

We may not get there very fast, but we do get there in comfort :-)

I affectionately call mine a "Slowdowner"

Allen

[B A R R Y]

On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 08:33:20 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Dec 15, 9:18 am, "LWG" > wrote:
>> Al, I liked your video. I have a '78.
>>
>> Les
>
>We may not get there very fast, but we do get there in comfort :-)
>
>I affectionately call mine a "Slowdowner"

You got it! <G>

Are you a BAC member?

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On Dec 15, 10:51 am, B A R R Y >
wrote:
> You got it! <G>
>
> Are you a BAC member?

No, trying to keep my aviation subscription costs to a bare bones
minimum. If I joined everything that was presented to me, I'd be in
the poor house for that alone. $50 can buy me quite a bit of av gas.

While my past annual was a little pricey, my A&P has done everything
he can to make my plane the safest on the ramp :-) and he has a lot of
resources to tap into for the Beech parts thankfully.

Allen

[buttman]

On Dec 14, 4:10 pm, " > wrote:
> Went up to touch some clouds today.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHC-s9cl8cE
>
> Using the same technique in creating my last video, put the camera on
> the glareshield and pretty much set it and forgot it. While I was VMC,
> I did capture some "forward" scenery.
>
> Great day for flying, tops were between 1800 and 2000, ceilings at
> KMBO was 700 and 600 ceilings at KHKS.
>
> Video is comprised of taxiing, takeoff, 2 ILS (I actually did three),
> one VOR Alpha and landing back at home. I edited most of the IMC part
> since just how much viewing pleasure can someone get out of a grey
> screen beside me being there in the action.
>
> Where there is an extended amount of IMC in the beginning, I subtitled
> the page to break the monotony.
>
> Hope people enjoy the video!
>
> Allen

hmm, I noticed your markers were on "high". Any reason for this?
Doesn't doing that kind of defeat the purpose of markers in the first
place?

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On Dec 15, 1:18 pm, buttman > wrote:

> hmm, I noticed your markers were on "high". Any reason for this?
> Doesn't doing that kind of defeat the purpose of markers in the first
> place?

Yes, actual reason was for "video purposes". Marker beacon comes in
louder over the external speaker which of course has to be louder then
the roar of the engine. If I am not videoing, then of course, marker
would be set on low and over the headphones rather then external
speaker as the high setting does get rather annoying. It's not so
annoying on high over the external speaker.

For my own analytical "post flight briefing" I listen for any power
changes in my videos. The less power changes there are, the more
stabler the approach is. This is one of the reasons I haven't really
actively looked into getting the ATC audio fed into my videos, as I
want to hear in the video what the plane is doing based on my
inputs.

My IFR briefingI use is below my name. I put this on a laminated knee
board size piece of paper. I have the approach on a yoke clip.

For me, it's as "bullet proof" as it gets as it includes my descent
and before landing check list from the POH. It keeps me well ahead of
the plane.

Allen

IFR briefing
Side one

IFR

Field Elevation
Type of Approach
Nav / Course - check Nav1 and Nav2
GS Intercept or FAF Altitude
Minimums / Missed approach
Nav 1 SET - Check ACTIVE frequency and IDENT
Nav 2 SET and IDENT
Com 1 SET
Com 2 SET
Reset Timer to zero

APPROACH (15 miles from Airport)

Approach Briefing (COMPLETE)
ATIS - SET
Altimeter - SET
Mixture - ENRICH AS REQUIRED
Landing Light - AS REQUIRED
Activate Approach on GPS


Side two (I flip it over after completing the above)

THREE MILES BEFORE
FINAL APPROACH FIX

Push CDI button to select VLOC for NON GPS approaches
Slow to 90 knots - 2100 RPM and 10 degree flaps for level flight.
Seatbacks UPRIGHT, Seat belts and Shoulder Harness SECURE
Fuel Selector Valve - SELECT TANK MORE NEARLY FULL (Feel for detent
and check visually)
Mixture - FULL RICH (or as required by field elevation)
Fuel Boost Pump - ON
Landing Light - AS REQUIRED
Marker - SET volume to speaker
Carburetor Heat - ON at FINAL APPROACH FIX
Start timer started at Final Approach Fix

CROSSING any fix
Turn - DG Header Bug
Time - Verify Timer Started
Twist - Nav1
Throttle - Reduce power
Talk
Track

MISSED approach
Cram (Carb heat off, Full Power)
Climb
Clean (Flaps)
Correct turn to assigned heading
Call = Tower 43L missed approach

[B A R R Y]

On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 12:02:57 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:
> It's not so
>annoying on high over the external speaker.

I like the beacon on the speaker.

I also listen to ATIS, ASOS, and nav station ID's on the speaker. This
makes it easier to hear actual radio calls, vs. the background
"noise".

I can hear the speaker perfectly over the noise through my Bose X.

[Bush]

We did this years ago at one airline. When the training department
found out what we were doing they wanted copies for training purposes.
We used a half-empty tissue box on the glrare shield, and a patch cord
plugged into the Oberserver's (jump seat) mixer box for ATC and
cockpit audio. Neat stuff.

Have a great one!

Bush

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:10:33 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>Went up to touch some clouds today.
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHC-s9cl8cE
>
>Using the same technique in creating my last video, put the camera on
>the glareshield and pretty much set it and forgot it. While I was VMC,
>I did capture some "forward" scenery.
>
>Great day for flying, tops were between 1800 and 2000, ceilings at
>KMBO was 700 and 600 ceilings at KHKS.
>
>Video is comprised of taxiing, takeoff, 2 ILS (I actually did three),
>one VOR Alpha and landing back at home. I edited most of the IMC part
>since just how much viewing pleasure can someone get out of a grey
>screen beside me being there in the action.
>
>Where there is an extended amount of IMC in the beginning, I subtitled
>the page to break the monotony.
>
>Hope people enjoy the video!
>
>Allen

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On Dec 15, 4:39 pm, B A R R Y > wrote:

> I also listen to ATIS, ASOS, and nav station ID's on the speaker. This
> makes it easier to hear actual radio calls, vs. the background
> "noise".
>
> I can hear the speaker perfectly over the noise through my Bose X.

I need to try this in flight.

As you can see in the beginning of the video, I did this for the ASOS
to be recorded on the video. I never really thought to listen to
ASOS/ATIS over the speaker but it does make perfect sense as you say,
don't have to struggle to listen to actual calls over the weather.

Allen

[LWG]

Yeah, I've heard them all before. We have to worry about bird strikes ...
from behind!

I am a BAC member. What a fantastic group! When I had to land quite a
distance from home because of an electrical problem, I was able to download
a wiring schematic for the local shop and get first-rate A&P assistance
within a half-hour. Just amazing. You'd have to be crazy to have a Sport,
Sundowner or Sierra and not be a member of that group.


"B A R R Y" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 08:33:20 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
>>On Dec 15, 9:18 am, "LWG" > wrote:
>>> Al, I liked your video. I have a '78.
>>>
>>> Les
>>
>>We may not get there very fast, but we do get there in comfort :-)
>>
>>I affectionately call mine a "Slowdowner"
>
> You got it! <G>
>
> Are you a BAC member?

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On Dec 15, 8:29 pm, "LWG" > wrote:
> Yeah, I've heard them all before. We have to worry about bird strikes ...
> from behind!

Bad time of the year to fly around here as well, migratory birds are
on the move.

Not unusual to get advisories from KJAN for radar identified flocks of
birds. Big ones too, geese and pelicans.

KMBO next to a very large reservoir where these things like to
gather. In a month or two, starlings move through, and lines ranging
in the miles for these birds, amazing clouds of these things not to be
reckoned with.

Fully understood on what you say about BAC, but after my overhaul
(happened after an in flight cylinder failure) 5 years ago, pretty
much the maintenance on my bird has been fluids and normal wear and
tear.

This year, all hoses got replaced (5 year old from overhaul), 30 year
brake lines got replaced on my annual, so this year, just a little
more pricey at 5K, but ooooh so worth it. Still cheaper to own, since
I have flown 123.5 hours this year, and 145.9 last year.

Next big project will be interior.

Allen

[LWG]

I'm still trying to get the cabin warm in the winter. I have door seals on
order. I have already replaced (and learned alot about) the SCAT tubes in
the cabin. You will probably want to do that as part of your interior.

> wrote in message
...
> On Dec 15, 8:29 pm, "LWG" > wrote:
>> Yeah, I've heard them all before. We have to worry about bird strikes
>> ...
>> from behind!
>
> Bad time of the year to fly around here as well, migratory birds are
> on the move.
>
> Not unusual to get advisories from KJAN for radar identified flocks of
> birds. Big ones too, geese and pelicans.
>
> KMBO next to a very large reservoir where these things like to
> gather. In a month or two, starlings move through, and lines ranging
> in the miles for these birds, amazing clouds of these things not to be
> reckoned with.
>
> Fully understood on what you say about BAC, but after my overhaul
> (happened after an in flight cylinder failure) 5 years ago, pretty
> much the maintenance on my bird has been fluids and normal wear and
> tear.
>
> This year, all hoses got replaced (5 year old from overhaul), 30 year
> brake lines got replaced on my annual, so this year, just a little
> more pricey at 5K, but ooooh so worth it. Still cheaper to own, since
> I have flown 123.5 hours this year, and 145.9 last year.
>
> Next big project will be interior.
>
> Allen

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On Dec 15, 9:23 pm, "LWG" > wrote:
> I'm still trying to get the cabin warm in the winter. I have door seals on
> order. I have already replaced (and learned alot about) the SCAT tubes in
> the cabin. You will probably want to do that as part of your interior.

Surprise to hear you say it's not warm enough. It gets warm and
pretty quick with the defrost and the heat going full blast, but the
coldest temps I have ever flown in is the teens at altitude.

Kinda hard to find anything to resemble hard core cold down this way.
I will usually open the passenger side eyeball vent and have the heat
on at the same time to keep things in balance should I get warm

SCAT tubes were replaced on overhaul when the engine was off in the
shop.

I also did the door seals, and gladly left it to the professionals as
the old seals were a real bear to remove. Door seals "too well: now,
when it gets hot, it's a bear to open them!

[B A R R Y]

On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:29:10 -0500, "LWG" >
wrote:

> You'd have to be crazy to have a Sport,
>Sundowner or Sierra and not be a member of that group.

Especially with direct access to Rellihan. <G>

[B A R R Y]

On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:23:56 -0500, "LWG" >
wrote:

>I'm still trying to get the cabin warm in the winter. I have door seals on
>order. I have already replaced (and learned alot about) the SCAT tubes in
>the cabin. You will probably want to do that as part of your interior.

We did our scat tubes and door seals in '05, what a difference!

[Robert M. Gary]

On Dec 15, 8:32 am, " > wrote:
> On Dec 15, 9:52 am, "Robert M. Gary" > wrote:
>
> > it but I have no idea how to mount the camera. Can you just use velcro
> > or did you use hardware??
>
> I had brought velcro along, not knowing the sticky stuff loses it's
> sticky after time, so I had to resort to just putting the camera on
> the glareshield, on the pilot side. Air was as pristine as it gets
> and as you know in IMC turns are very gradual, so the weight of the
> camera was enough to keep it still. Plus, I made all left hand turns

For me going missed is a pretty good pitch up and I'm sure the camera
would end up in my lap. We also just had our glareshield
professionally recovered so I'm not sure I want to put anything sticky
on it. I wonder if I could somehow safety wire it to the structural
tube that runs down the middle through the shield.

-Robert

[John T]

"john smith" > wrote in message

>
> Robert M. Gary wrote:
>> Several people have asked if I could post
>> a video of it but I have no idea how to mount the camera. Can you
>> just use velcro or did you use hardware??
>
> Whenever the camera store receives its back-ordered tripod heads, I
> will try the following:

FWIW, this is my video recording setup:
<http://sage1solutions.com/blogs/tknoflyer/archive/2007/03/21/CockpitVideo.aspx>

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On Dec 16, 1:30 pm, "Robert M. Gary" > wrote:

> For me going missed is a pretty good pitch up and I'm sure the camera
> would end up in my lap. We also just had our glareshield
> professionally recovered so I'm not sure I want to put anything sticky
> on it. I wonder if I could somehow safety wire it to the structural
> tube that runs down the middle through the shield.

Don't blame you for not wanting to mar up the glare shield. Another
thought that I am considering is getting a "bean bag" to put on the
glare shield and putting the camera in that with maybe a velcro strip
to keep it still. Not sure if the bean bag will be heavy enough to
stay still, but something to consider.

Unless you plan to video your landings "regularily", best bet would be
have a passenger do the videoing. In 90 percent of my videos, I
delegate the videoing to the passenger.

I like doing this so I can Monday nite quarterback my landings and see
what went right or what I can do to improve my flying.

If you are looking for specifics, best would be to take an instrument
passenger pilot up with you as they probably can better relate what
instruments to focus in on at certain points of the approach.

And no matter what I do with the camera, it is secondary to flying the
plane. Camera, for sure is replaceable, especially in the event of a
missed approach.

Allen.

[Robert M. Gary]

On Dec 16, 12:25 pm, "John T" > wrote:

> FWIW, this is my video recording setup:
> <http://sage1solutions.com/blogs/tknoflyer/archive/2007/03/21/CockpitV...>

Wow, dude you got the professional gear going on there!!! My brother
is a TV field producer, I wonder if he could hook me up with some
equipment. He called me one morning (10AM, early for the TV world) and
said he had a shoot that day following a subject in a C-172 and he was
worried his sound guy wouldn't be able to hook up (he had no concept
of aircraft avionics). No big deal, a pair of alagator clips on the
back if the intercom jack and they were good to go. When the episode
aired the entire scene was about 15 seconds though :)

-Robert

[Morgans[_2_]]

"john smith" > wrote

> Is that a custom or commercial mount?
> Where can I get one?

http://stickypod.com/