Ice Storm pix

[Jay Honeck]

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/2007_ice_storm.htm '

(That would be "www dot alexisparkinn dot com forward slash
2007_ice_storm dot htm" for you guys on browsers that truncate
links...)

As you can see, things got pretty slick around here. And this group's
own NW Pilot chose this week to visit! Here are a few pix of Steven
with the brand, new $600K Cirrus SR-22 he was delivering to Paris,
France...

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/2007_nwpilots_visit.htm

(That would be "www dot alexisparkinn dot com forward slash
2007_nwpilots_visit dot com")

Just an amazing aircraft. Of course, for over half-a-million bucks,
it had better be!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Darkwing]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
...
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/2007_ice_storm.htm '
>
> (That would be "www dot alexisparkinn dot com forward slash
> 2007_ice_storm dot htm" for you guys on browsers that truncate
> links...)
>
> As you can see, things got pretty slick around here. And this group's
> own NW Pilot chose this week to visit! Here are a few pix of Steven
> with the brand, new $600K Cirrus SR-22 he was delivering to Paris,
> France...
>
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/2007_nwpilots_visit.htm
>
> (That would be "www dot alexisparkinn dot com forward slash
> 2007_nwpilots_visit dot com")
>
> Just an amazing aircraft. Of course, for over half-a-million bucks,
> it had better be!
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"

Ah the midwest, I'm currently sitting under about 7" of snow and about a
1/4" of ice that fell Saturday into Sunday but we luckily missed all that
ice you guys got. Snow I can handle, ice sucks.

That Cirrus is awesome!

[Gig601XLBuilder]

> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in

>> Just an amazing aircraft. Of course, for over half-a-million bucks,
>> it had better be!
>> --


I hope it stays that way. I can't believe he is making that crossing in
winter. Oh to be young, and if not stupid, then at least gutsy.

[Jay Honeck]

> I hope it stays that way. I can't believe he is making that crossing in
> winter. Oh to be young, and if not stupid, then at least gutsy.

Apparently there is some European Value Added Tax that is going to
increase the cost of private aircraft tremendously...soon. (After the
1st of the year? I don't remember.)

This has driven a lot of people to buy Cirruses (Cirri?) before the
end of the year, which has made ferrying these aircraft hugely
profitable for guys like NWPilot.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Martin Hotze[_2_]]

Jay Honeck schrieb:

> Apparently there is some European Value Added Tax that is going to
> increase the cost of private aircraft tremendously...soon. (After the
> 1st of the year? I don't remember.)

FYI, thre is no such thing as a European tax (camparable to US federal
tax). Every nation within the EU has their own tax laws (though there
are some efforts for harmonisation within the EU).

#m
--
I am not a terrorist <http://www.casualdisobedience.com/>

[Jay Honeck]

> > Apparently there is some European Value Added Tax that is going to
> > increase the cost of private aircraft tremendously...soon. (After the
> > 1st of the year? I don't remember.)
>
> FYI, thre is no such thing as a European tax (camparable to US federal
> tax). Every nation within the EU has their own tax laws (though there
> are some efforts for harmonisation within the EU).

Perhaps NWPilot can fill in the details here? There is some reason
that he is suddenly in tremendous demand to ferry a bunch of Cirrus's
to Europe before the end of 2007 -- and it had to do with taxes.
Dunno which ones...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Roger (K8RI)]

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:07:27 +0100, Martin Hotze >
wrote:

>Jay Honeck schrieb:
>
>> Apparently there is some European Value Added Tax that is going to
>> increase the cost of private aircraft tremendously...soon. (After the
>> 1st of the year? I don't remember.)
>
>FYI, thre is no such thing as a European tax (camparable to US federal
>tax). Every nation within the EU has their own tax laws (though there
>are some efforts for harmonisation within the EU).
>
They have a Value Added Tax (VAT) which is a tad over 17% plus there
was an import duty on aircraft.

I don't know how it works out for aviation, but for electronics,
radios may run from 50 to 100% more than in the US.

Roger (K8RI)
>#m

[Jay Honeck]

> They have a Value Added Tax (VAT) which is a tad over 17% plus there
> was an import duty on aircraft.
>
> I don't know how it works out for aviation, but for electronics,
> radios may run from 50 to 100% more than in the US.

You mean this neat little $399 Compaq laptop I'm happily pecking away
on would cost $800 in Martin's Austrian world?

Dang, I knew my great-great-great-Grandfather Heinrich left that part
of the world for a good reason!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Andy Hawkins]

Hi,

In article >,
Jay > wrote:
> You mean this neat little $399 Compaq laptop I'm happily pecking away
> on would cost $800 in Martin's Austrian world?

You can almost guarantee that by the time something electronic crosses the
pond, the cost in UKP is pretty much the same as the cost in US$. As
(currently) there are about $2 to the pound, then yes, things work out being
a lot more expensive over here.

Andy

[Bertie the Bunyip]

On Dec 17, 11:47 pm, Gig601XLBuilder >
wrote:
> > "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
> >> Just an amazing aircraft. Of course, for over half-a-million bucks,
> >> it had better be!
> >> --
>
> I hope it stays that way. I can't believe he is making that crossing in
> winter. Oh to be young, and if not stupid, then at least gutsy.

Oh dear, have I got a story for you guys..

It'll have to wait for a few beers..




Bertie

[Roger (K8RI)]

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:07:44 -0800 (PST), Jay Honeck
> wrote:

>> They have a Value Added Tax (VAT) which is a tad over 17% plus there
>> was an import duty on aircraft.
>>
>> I don't know how it works out for aviation, but for electronics,
>> radios may run from 50 to 100% more than in the US.
>
>You mean this neat little $399 Compaq laptop I'm happily pecking away
>on would cost $800 in Martin's Austrian world?

And not just electronics. Years ago I know a young Brit who with
others would fly to the use on shopping excursions. They could fly
over, purchase their clothes, pick up as much extra as allowed and
pretty much pay for their own new clothes AND the round trip airline
ticket.

Roger

>
>Dang, I knew my great-great-great-Grandfather Heinrich left that part
>of the world for a good reason!
>
>;-)

[Dylan Smith]

On 2007-12-20, Jay Honeck > wrote:
> You mean this neat little $399 Compaq laptop I'm happily pecking away
> on would cost $800 in Martin's Austrian world?

Dunno about Austria, but in the local Tesco's (a supermarket) you can
pick up a reasonably specced PC laptop for a couple of hundred (i.e.
around $400).

Since all computer manufacture moved to the Far East, the price
difference between US and UK prices has not been all that great (mainly,
just VAT).

--
From the sunny Isle of Man.
Yes, the Reply-To email address is valid.

[Martin Hotze[_2_]]

Roger (K8RI) schrieb:

> They have a Value Added Tax (VAT) which is a tad over 17% plus there
> was an import duty on aircraft.

who is "they"?
we (Austria) have 20% VAT (10% on some items), Germany has 19% VAT (and
9% on some items), and so on.
[i]
> I don't know how it works out for aviation, but for electronics,
> radios may run from 50 to 100% more than in the US.

aviation related you might be right, yes (due to regulation and paperwork).

> Roger (K8RI)

#m
--
I am not a terrorist <http://www.casualdisobedience.com/>

[Martin Hotze[_2_]]

Dylan Smith schrieb:
> On 2007-12-20, Jay Honeck > wrote:
>> You mean this neat little $399 Compaq laptop I'm happily pecking away
>> on would cost $800 in Martin's Austrian world?
>
> Dunno about Austria, but in the local Tesco's (a supermarket) you can
> pick up a reasonably specced PC laptop for a couple of hundred (i.e.
> around $400).

a PC (midi tower) with a celeron 420 CPU, 1 gig ram, 160gig harddisc,
dvd-burner, no os: about 200,- euros without vat = 240,- euros with vat.

www.xe.net calculates 200,- euros to 287,- us-dollars.

due to the current exchange rate this and all other things from euroland
are expensive (or they have to sell with less profit). how about prices
for european made cars in the US?

> Since all computer manufacture moved to the Far East, the price
> difference between US and UK prices has not been all that great (mainly,
> just VAT).
>

and as another poster said: yes, flying to the US and buying over there
is cheap. I once calculated roundtrip, 1 week car rental, 1 week motel,
check out and 10 hours of C172 is a tad cheaper than renting 10 hours
here locally. due to the exchange rate it might be even cheaper today.

My last stay in the US in 2002 would cost me today about 50% of the
money I paid back then.

#m
--
I am not a terrorist <http://www.casualdisobedience.com/>

[Gig601XLBuilder]

Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:

> VAT is not uniform across the EU. So far we're still independent
> countries, taxation laws are national affairs. The majority of
> countries have VAT somewhere around 15 or 20 %, often with lower or no
> tax for food, housing, cultural items etc.


And Europeans think that USAians are provincial? What the hell would be
considered "cultural items"?

[LWG]

The same thing is true today in Buffalo. Canadians are coming over the
border and shopping in the US. They strip down to their underwear on the
parking lot, and change into their new clothes. The old stuff is thrown out
the window on the way out of the parking lot. Some bring empty suitcases
and try to tell Canadian customs they're returning from a long trip.

> And not just electronics. Years ago I know a young Brit who with
> others would fly to the use on shopping excursions. They could fly
> over, purchase their clothes, pick up as much extra as allowed and
> pretty much pay for their own new clothes AND the round trip airline
> ticket.

[Gig601XLBuilder]

Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:

>
> I found a list of items with reduced tax for your entertainment:
>

> wood fuel

Could they promote something that is less efficient?


> theatre/concert/movie tickets
>

Hell, by that logic a 4x4 and a six pack should be tax free.

[Jay Honeck]

> The cheapest notebooks I find go for EUR 450 here, but the comparison
> is probably meaningless without statings features and peripherals. I
> don't think the low market ones are anything to write home about, but
> your 399 one probably isn't either. I bought myself a nice one last
> week from a supermarket chain. It's an Intel dual core 1.66 GHz, with 2
> Gig RAM, 250 Gig HD, non-shared graphics card, 15'' widescreen, multi
> format DVD burner, digital TV tuner card with remote, web cam, mic,
> fingerprint sensor, all peripherals that are considered standards these
> days (network, WLAN, sound, video, SD card), Winderz and lots of
> software preinstalled, and a notebook bag. All for 899, which I
> consider a bargain, with all those features you'd pay more in regular
> stores. Now compare

Here's what I got for $399 a few months ago here in the US:

Compaq Presario C563NR Notebook PC

# Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 520 with 533MHz frontside bus, 1MB L2
cache and 1.6GHz processor speed
# 512MB DDR2 memory for multitasking power (upgraded to 1526 MB for
another $80)
# Multiformat DVD±RW/CD-RW drive
# 15.4" WXGA high-definition TFT-LCD widescreen display with
BrightView technology and 1280 x 800 resolution.
# 80GB Serial ATA hard drive (5400 rpm)
# Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator 950 with up to 64MB shared memory;
built-in Altec Lansing audio
# 3 high-speed USB 2.0 ports for fast digital video, audio and data
transfer; S-video TV-out
# Built-in high-speed wireless LAN (802.11b/g); built-in 10/100 Base-T
Ethernet LAN (with RJ-45 connector); high speed 56 Kbps modem
# Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic Edition operating system
preinstalled.

This little wonder has been marvelous, fast, connects wirelessly
automatically to any available network, and -- at less than $500 (with
the additional RAM I added later), it's almost unbelievably cheap. My
first laptop -- also a Presario -- was a Pentium III that cost nearly
$3,000, so the comparision beween the two is striking.

Sure, it's not the "latest greatest" -- but it does everything I want,
and is nearly disposable at that price...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[LWG]

Do tell, Jay. Where did you get it?

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
...
> The cheapest notebooks I find go for EUR 450 here, but the comparison
> is probably meaningless without statings features and peripherals. I
> don't think the low market ones are anything to write home about, but
> your 399 one probably isn't either. I bought myself a nice one last
> week from a supermarket chain. It's an Intel dual core 1.66 GHz, with 2
> Gig RAM, 250 Gig HD, non-shared graphics card, 15'' widescreen, multi
> format DVD burner, digital TV tuner card with remote, web cam, mic,
> fingerprint sensor, all peripherals that are considered standards these
> days (network, WLAN, sound, video, SD card), Winderz and lots of
> software preinstalled, and a notebook bag. All for 899, which I
> consider a bargain, with all those features you'd pay more in regular
> stores. Now compare

Here's what I got for $399 a few months ago here in the US:

Compaq Presario C563NR Notebook PC

# Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 520 with 533MHz frontside bus, 1MB L2
cache and 1.6GHz processor speed
# 512MB DDR2 memory for multitasking power (upgraded to 1526 MB for
another $80)
# Multiformat DVD±RW/CD-RW drive
# 15.4" WXGA high-definition TFT-LCD widescreen display with
BrightView technology and 1280 x 800 resolution.
# 80GB Serial ATA hard drive (5400 rpm)
# Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator 950 with up to 64MB shared memory;
built-in Altec Lansing audio
# 3 high-speed USB 2.0 ports for fast digital video, audio and data
transfer; S-video TV-out
# Built-in high-speed wireless LAN (802.11b/g); built-in 10/100 Base-T
Ethernet LAN (with RJ-45 connector); high speed 56 Kbps modem
# Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic Edition operating system
preinstalled.

This little wonder has been marvelous, fast, connects wirelessly
automatically to any available network, and -- at less than $500 (with
the additional RAM I added later), it's almost unbelievably cheap. My
first laptop -- also a Presario -- was a Pentium III that cost nearly
$3,000, so the comparision beween the two is striking.

Sure, it's not the "latest greatest" -- but it does everything I want,
and is nearly disposable at that price...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[RST Engineering]

Was it available with XP instead of that pos Vista?

Jim

--
"If you think you can, or think you can't, you're right."
--Henry Ford

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
...
> The cheapest notebooks I find go for EUR 450 here, but the comparison
> is probably meaningless without statings features and peripherals. I
> don't think the low market ones are anything to write home about, but
> your 399 one probably isn't either. I bought myself a nice one last
> week from a supermarket chain. It's an Intel dual core 1.66 GHz, with 2
> Gig RAM, 250 Gig HD, non-shared graphics card, 15'' widescreen, multi
> format DVD burner, digital TV tuner card with remote, web cam, mic,
> fingerprint sensor, all peripherals that are considered standards these
> days (network, WLAN, sound, video, SD card), Winderz and lots of
> software preinstalled, and a notebook bag. All for 899, which I
> consider a bargain, with all those features you'd pay more in regular
> stores. Now compare

Here's what I got for $399 a few months ago here in the US:

Compaq Presario C563NR Notebook PC

# Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 520 with 533MHz frontside bus, 1MB L2
cache and 1.6GHz processor speed
# 512MB DDR2 memory for multitasking power (upgraded to 1526 MB for
another $80)
# Multiformat DVD±RW/CD-RW drive
# 15.4" WXGA high-definition TFT-LCD widescreen display with
BrightView technology and 1280 x 800 resolution.
# 80GB Serial ATA hard drive (5400 rpm)
# Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator 950 with up to 64MB shared memory;
built-in Altec Lansing audio
# 3 high-speed USB 2.0 ports for fast digital video, audio and data
transfer; S-video TV-out
# Built-in high-speed wireless LAN (802.11b/g); built-in 10/100 Base-T
Ethernet LAN (with RJ-45 connector); high speed 56 Kbps modem
# Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic Edition operating system
preinstalled.

This little wonder has been marvelous, fast, connects wirelessly
automatically to any available network, and -- at less than $500 (with
the additional RAM I added later), it's almost unbelievably cheap. My
first laptop -- also a Presario -- was a Pentium III that cost nearly
$3,000, so the comparision beween the two is striking.

Sure, it's not the "latest greatest" -- but it does everything I want,
and is nearly disposable at that price...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> Was it available with XP instead of that pos Vista?

Nope. My intention was to buy this (admittedly RAM-challenged) laptop
and install XP -- but to my surprise I discovered that I actually
liked Vista -- even with just 512 K of RAM.

Over the course of a month or two, however, as I added more "stuff"
the insufficient RAM became more apparent, and everything started
running in slow-motion -- so I tripled it.

Since then, this little toy has been simply perfect. It's 100-times
better than my old laptop, for (literally) 1/8th the price.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> Do tell, Jay. *Where did you get it?

Best Buy, in an unadvertised special. Just stumbled on it, really.

Since then they've run several more specials on this (and similar)
models.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Bob Noel]

In article >,
Jay Honeck > wrote:

> Nope. My intention was to buy this (admittedly RAM-challenged) laptop
> and install XP -- but to my surprise I discovered that I actually
> liked Vista -- even with just 512 K of RAM.

You are a sick man.

:-)

and to bring this back on topic a little (gasp!), Jay, did you read
the AOPA article about kids and flying lessons? Any thoughts?

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

[Jay Honeck]

> and to bring this back on topic a little (gasp!), Jay, did you read
> the AOPA article about kids and flying lessons? *Any thoughts?

Haven't seen it. Which edition (month) is that article in?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Dylan Smith]

On 2007-12-20, Jay Honeck > wrote:
> Compaq Presario C563NR Notebook PC

3 months ago? Compaq? I thought HP had dropped the Compaq brand, they
certainly have here (they called it HP-Compaq for a while, then just
dropped the Compaq altogether).

I'm a bit miffed about Hewlett-Paqard actually - we have 70 of their
slimline desktops. Within 9 months *all* of them had failed and had to
have new motherboards under warranty (bad capacitors). About 1/3rd of
them shipped with bad hard discs. The same machines are now failing for a
second time, this time with bad capacitors in the power supply. Of
course they are now out of warranty so we're going to have to pay to
have all the power supplies replaced.

--
From the sunny Isle of Man.
Yes, the Reply-To email address is valid.

[Bob Noel]

In article >,
Jay Honeck > wrote:

> > and to bring this back on topic a little (gasp!), Jay, did you read
> > the AOPA article about kids and flying lessons? *Any thoughts?
>
> Haven't seen it. Which edition (month) is that article in?

Jan 08

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

[Jay Honeck]

> Jan 08

Either I haven't received that one yet (likely) or it got squirreled
away by one of the other pilots in this family.

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> 3 months ago? Compaq? I thought HP had dropped the Compaq brand, they
> certainly have here (they called it HP-Compaq for a while, then just
> dropped the Compaq altogether).

It seems that the old Compaq name soldiers on here in America. At
least for now.

> I'm a bit miffed about Hewlett-Paqard actually - we have 70 of their
> slimline desktops. Within 9 months *all* of them had failed and had to
> have new motherboards under warranty (bad capacitors). About 1/3rd of
> them shipped with bad hard discs. The same machines are now failing for a
> second time, this time with bad capacitors in the power supply. Of
> course they are now out of warranty so we're going to have to pay to
> have all the power supplies replaced.

A "bit miffed"? I'd be standing in their office, on someone's desk!
(Of course, good luck finding an office, or a desk, in a company like
H-P anymore...)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"