Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
December 31st 07, 12:59 AM
"Green Xenon [Radium]" > wrote in
:
> Richard Crowley wrote:
>> "Green Xenon [Radium]" wrote ...
>>
>>> The emergency doors of airplanes are coated with synthetic leather.
>>
>>
>> No. Not here on planet Earth. Where are you writing from?
>>
>>> This synthetic leather is sound-proof and air-tight.
>>
>>
>> No, and no.
>>
>>> One purpose of this is to prevent those on-board from asphyxiation.
>>
>>
>> No.
>>
>>> The other is to protect the ears of those on-board.
>>
>>
>> No.
>>
>>> The sound emitted from the plane exceeds 140 dB.
>>
>>
>> No.
>>
>>> ...sounds above 140 dB are not perceived as sound but are instead
>>> felt as pain.
>>
>>
>> No.
>>
>>> Hence...
>>
>>
>> Do you just make this up as you go along? Its not even very
>> good fiction. Either learn to check your facts, or you need more
>> practice in creative writing.
>>
>>> If there is a fire on-board and close to the emergency door, the
>>> leather will lose it's sound-proofing and air-tight qualities.
>>
>>
>> And in case of an on-board fire, protecting passengers ears
>> is clearly more important than whatever the fire is doing.
>> Suggest engaging a sanity-checker along with the fact-
>> checker.
>
> Well, if the synthetic leather on the emergency door loses its
> air-proof qualities, those in the plane will suffocate as the
> atmosphere way up there is too thin to support human life. There
> simply isn't enough oxygen.
>
> It is the air-tight qualities of this leather that enables it to
> soften dangerously-loud sounds as well as prevent the breathable air
> inside the plane from escaping outside.
>
> As for fire, there are several reason why they are dangerous even if
> they don't attack the emergency doors' synthetic leather. Those who
> are burning in the plane are in excruciating pain and fear. They may
> want to commit suicide to escape the pain. If an emergency door is
> burnt open, passengers may jump out to escape the agony. If a
> passenger tried to hold onto the plane to cling to life and his/her
> hand contacts flames from the plane, his/her pain reflexes will force
> him/her to let go and fall to his/her death. So much for reflexes!
>
> In addition, if the pilot is on fire or about to be burnt by the
> flames, his fear of the flames and/or pain caused by the thermal burns
> will likely cause him/her to attempt suicide by letting go of the
> controls. Now, even if the pilot tried his/her best to ignore the pain
> and continue manuvering in order to make the landing as safely as
> possible, the pain reflexes will cause him/her to lose control of
> his/her voluntary movements -- the pilot won't we able to operate the
> plane properly due to muscle spasms...
>
> ... Now lets say the pilot is somehow able to ignore the pain and
> control his/her reflexes... then the excruciating pain will put the
> pilot in a state of neurogenic and psychogenic shock and extreme
> confusion. As stress hormones [such as endorphins] are released, the
> pilot's level of consciousness will decrease.
>
> Extreme psychological stress [caused by physical pain] can impair
> consciousness and the pilot will no longer be able to navigate. The
> decrease in consciousness is evolution's way to to protect the
> conscious mind from emotional trauma. This is why those who've been in
> psychological agony, can't remember the event. Those who've been in
> war, prison, or were molested as kids, have a hard time remembering
> the incident because it is so traumatic. However, such 'protection'
> offers no benefit to the pilots on-board.
>
> Flames inside the plane are nasty both in terms of their shapes and
> colors. They resemble the orangish-yellow--reddish-pink flames of that
> resulting from ignited wood, cotton, grass, petroleum, and other
> compounds that burn with that yellow nasty-shaped flames. These shapes
> and colors evoke intense primal fears in us humans. The flames that
> plagued our pre-historic ancestors were orangish-yellow with a hint of
> reddish-pink. Forest fires and grassland fires. Hence, when we see
> these colors and shapes, our ancient fears are triggered. Pre-historic
> humans were burnt by these flames. The wounds resulting from these
> flames were excruciatingly painful. So painful that they caused
> neurogenic shock. The burn victims and the bystanders started
> developing intense fears of these flames. Equally frightening was
> these burn wounds looked like white foam. White due to thermal
> denaturing of pigments -- such as melanin. Foamy due to denaturing of
> proteins in the skin. Also, such heat from flames dehydrated the skin,
> further making the wounds frightening in appearance. This is why
> orangish-yellow--reddish-pink flames are so terrifying to us.
>
>
> Yeah, yeah I know. Much of this post is
> exteeeeeeeeeeeeereeeeeeeeeeemely OT. Please don't get upset at me.
>
Much of this post is exteremly wrong.
Did you get these ideas after sampling the fumes from your simulated
leather?
Bertie
:
> Richard Crowley wrote:
>> "Green Xenon [Radium]" wrote ...
>>
>>> The emergency doors of airplanes are coated with synthetic leather.
>>
>>
>> No. Not here on planet Earth. Where are you writing from?
>>
>>> This synthetic leather is sound-proof and air-tight.
>>
>>
>> No, and no.
>>
>>> One purpose of this is to prevent those on-board from asphyxiation.
>>
>>
>> No.
>>
>>> The other is to protect the ears of those on-board.
>>
>>
>> No.
>>
>>> The sound emitted from the plane exceeds 140 dB.
>>
>>
>> No.
>>
>>> ...sounds above 140 dB are not perceived as sound but are instead
>>> felt as pain.
>>
>>
>> No.
>>
>>> Hence...
>>
>>
>> Do you just make this up as you go along? Its not even very
>> good fiction. Either learn to check your facts, or you need more
>> practice in creative writing.
>>
>>> If there is a fire on-board and close to the emergency door, the
>>> leather will lose it's sound-proofing and air-tight qualities.
>>
>>
>> And in case of an on-board fire, protecting passengers ears
>> is clearly more important than whatever the fire is doing.
>> Suggest engaging a sanity-checker along with the fact-
>> checker.
>
> Well, if the synthetic leather on the emergency door loses its
> air-proof qualities, those in the plane will suffocate as the
> atmosphere way up there is too thin to support human life. There
> simply isn't enough oxygen.
>
> It is the air-tight qualities of this leather that enables it to
> soften dangerously-loud sounds as well as prevent the breathable air
> inside the plane from escaping outside.
>
> As for fire, there are several reason why they are dangerous even if
> they don't attack the emergency doors' synthetic leather. Those who
> are burning in the plane are in excruciating pain and fear. They may
> want to commit suicide to escape the pain. If an emergency door is
> burnt open, passengers may jump out to escape the agony. If a
> passenger tried to hold onto the plane to cling to life and his/her
> hand contacts flames from the plane, his/her pain reflexes will force
> him/her to let go and fall to his/her death. So much for reflexes!
>
> In addition, if the pilot is on fire or about to be burnt by the
> flames, his fear of the flames and/or pain caused by the thermal burns
> will likely cause him/her to attempt suicide by letting go of the
> controls. Now, even if the pilot tried his/her best to ignore the pain
> and continue manuvering in order to make the landing as safely as
> possible, the pain reflexes will cause him/her to lose control of
> his/her voluntary movements -- the pilot won't we able to operate the
> plane properly due to muscle spasms...
>
> ... Now lets say the pilot is somehow able to ignore the pain and
> control his/her reflexes... then the excruciating pain will put the
> pilot in a state of neurogenic and psychogenic shock and extreme
> confusion. As stress hormones [such as endorphins] are released, the
> pilot's level of consciousness will decrease.
>
> Extreme psychological stress [caused by physical pain] can impair
> consciousness and the pilot will no longer be able to navigate. The
> decrease in consciousness is evolution's way to to protect the
> conscious mind from emotional trauma. This is why those who've been in
> psychological agony, can't remember the event. Those who've been in
> war, prison, or were molested as kids, have a hard time remembering
> the incident because it is so traumatic. However, such 'protection'
> offers no benefit to the pilots on-board.
>
> Flames inside the plane are nasty both in terms of their shapes and
> colors. They resemble the orangish-yellow--reddish-pink flames of that
> resulting from ignited wood, cotton, grass, petroleum, and other
> compounds that burn with that yellow nasty-shaped flames. These shapes
> and colors evoke intense primal fears in us humans. The flames that
> plagued our pre-historic ancestors were orangish-yellow with a hint of
> reddish-pink. Forest fires and grassland fires. Hence, when we see
> these colors and shapes, our ancient fears are triggered. Pre-historic
> humans were burnt by these flames. The wounds resulting from these
> flames were excruciatingly painful. So painful that they caused
> neurogenic shock. The burn victims and the bystanders started
> developing intense fears of these flames. Equally frightening was
> these burn wounds looked like white foam. White due to thermal
> denaturing of pigments -- such as melanin. Foamy due to denaturing of
> proteins in the skin. Also, such heat from flames dehydrated the skin,
> further making the wounds frightening in appearance. This is why
> orangish-yellow--reddish-pink flames are so terrifying to us.
>
>
> Yeah, yeah I know. Much of this post is
> exteeeeeeeeeeeeereeeeeeeeeeemely OT. Please don't get upset at me.
>
Much of this post is exteremly wrong.
Did you get these ideas after sampling the fumes from your simulated
leather?
Bertie