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Eric Greenwell
January 1st 08, 05:44 PM
MI5 has crossed the line, now that he is deliberately attempting to
evade people's filters against his postings. Since he appears to be
using gmail, I reported about 6 of today's postings to Google, with this
message:

"This poster cross-posts multiple messages this newsgroup that are
entirely outside the group's charter. The sender addresses are all gmail
addresses and varied from day to day, so filtering based on address is
very difficult. The subject always contains "MI5 Persecution", but with
periods, commas, apostrophes, and hyphens that make filtering by subject
very difficult. The subject line also contains a different subject in
each posting, each day."

I don't know that he is actually using gmail, but I thought I'd report
him today, just in case it helps. If you want to report him, here's how:

The abuse is reported by viewing the rec.aviation.soaring messages using
Google groups:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.soaring/topics?lnk=lr&hl=en

Click on the message, click on "More options", click "Report this
message", select the "Type of abuse" (I used "Other"), fill in the
message box, then click "Report abuse".

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA
* Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly
* "Transponders in Sailplanes" http://tinyurl.com/y739x4
* "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" at www.motorglider.org

fcnorton
January 1st 08, 06:12 PM
On Jan 1, 9:44*am, Eric Greenwell > wrote:
> MI5 has crossed the line, now that he is deliberately attempting to
> evade people's filters against his postings. Since he appears to be
> using gmail, I reported about 6 of today's postings to Google, with this
> message:
>
> "This poster cross-posts multiple messages this newsgroup that are
> entirely outside the group's charter. The sender addresses are all gmail
> addresses and varied from day to day, so filtering based on address is
> very difficult. The subject always contains "MI5 Persecution", but with
> periods, commas, apostrophes, and hyphens that make filtering by subject
> very difficult. The subject line also contains a different subject in
> each posting, each day."
>
> I don't know that he is actually using gmail, but I thought I'd report
> him today, just in case it helps. If you want to report him, here's how:
>
> The abuse is reported by viewing the rec.aviation.soaring messages using
> Google groups:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.soaring/topics?lnk=lr&hl=en
>
> Click on the message, click on "More options", click "Report this
> message", select the "Type of abuse" (I used "Other"), fill in the
> message box, then click "Report abuse".
>
> --
> Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA
> * Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly
> * "Transponders in Sailplanes"http://tinyurl.com/y739x4
> * "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" atwww.motorglider.org

I reported all 16 messages that I found. Thanks for taking the
initiative.

FC Norton

raulb
January 1st 08, 06:26 PM
I tried complaining recently but all that happened was that I seem to
have lost my ability to complain. When I hit :Show Options" all I get
now are two options allowing me to expand the post or to view his
profile (there is none). Somebody needs to do something about this
idiot. Maybe MI-5 should do more than persecute him--they need to
send the white coat boys after him.

On Jan 1, 9:44*am, Eric Greenwell > wrote:
> MI5 has crossed the line, now that he is deliberately attempting to
> evade people's filters against his postings. Since he appears to be
> using gmail, I reported about 6 of today's postings to Google, with this
> message:
>
> "This poster cross-posts multiple messages this newsgroup that are
> entirely outside the group's charter. The sender addresses are all gmail
> addresses and varied from day to day, so filtering based on address is
> very difficult. The subject always contains "MI5 Persecution", but with
> periods, commas, apostrophes, and hyphens that make filtering by subject
> very difficult. The subject line also contains a different subject in
> each posting, each day."
>
> I don't know that he is actually using gmail, but I thought I'd report
> him today, just in case it helps. If you want to report him, here's how:
>
> The abuse is reported by viewing the rec.aviation.soaring messages using
> Google groups:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.soaring/topics?lnk=lr&hl=en
>
> Click on the message, click on "More options", click "Report this
> message", select the "Type of abuse" (I used "Other"), fill in the
> message box, then click "Report abuse".
>
> --
> Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA
> * Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly
> * "Transponders in Sailplanes"http://tinyurl.com/y739x4
> * "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" atwww.motorglider.org

raulb
January 1st 08, 06:44 PM
BTW, in case you haven't noticed, he uses a different email address on
every post, so he would have to be be complained about numerous times
per episode.

On Jan 1, 10:12*am, fcnorton > wrote:
> On Jan 1, 9:44*am, Eric Greenwell > wrote:
>
>
>
> > MI5 has crossed the line, now that he is deliberately attempting to
> > evade people's filters against his postings. Since he appears to be
> > using gmail, I reported about 6 of today's postings to Google, with this
> > message:
>
> > "This poster cross-posts multiple messages this newsgroup that are
> > entirely outside the group's charter. The sender addresses are all gmail
> > addresses and varied from day to day, so filtering based on address is
> > very difficult. The subject always contains "MI5 Persecution", but with
> > periods, commas, apostrophes, and hyphens that make filtering by subject
> > very difficult. The subject line also contains a different subject in
> > each posting, each day."
>
> > I don't know that he is actually using gmail, but I thought I'd report
> > him today, just in case it helps. If you want to report him, here's how:
>
> > The abuse is reported by viewing the rec.aviation.soaring messages using
> > Google groups:
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.soaring/topics?lnk=lr&hl=en
>
> > Click on the message, click on "More options", click "Report this
> > message", select the "Type of abuse" (I used "Other"), fill in the
> > message box, then click "Report abuse".
>
> > --
> > Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA
> > * Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly
> > * "Transponders in Sailplanes"http://tinyurl.com/y739x4
> > * "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" atwww.motorglider.org
>
> I reported all 16 messages that I found. *Thanks for taking the
> initiative.
>
> FC Norton

Nyal Williams
January 1st 08, 08:08 PM
AFAIK, none of these postings have appeared on glider
pilot net. I have yet to see one.

At 18:48 01 January 2008, Raulb wrote:
>BTW, in case you haven't noticed, he uses a different
>email address on
>every post, so he would have to be be complained about
>numerous times
>per episode.
>
>On Jan 1, 10:12=A0am, fcnorton wrote:
>> On Jan 1, 9:44=A0am, Eric Greenwell wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > MI5 has crossed the line, now that he is deliberately
>>>attempting to
>> > evade people's filters against his postings. Since
>>>he appears to be
>> > using gmail, I reported about 6 of today's postings
>>>to Google, with this=
>
>> > message:
>>
>> > 'This poster cross-posts multiple messages this newsgroup
>>>that are
>> > entirely outside the group's charter. The sender
>>>addresses are all gmail=
>
>> > addresses and varied from day to day, so filtering
>>>based on address is
>> > very difficult. The subject always contains 'MI5
>>>Persecution', but with
>> > periods, commas, apostrophes, and hyphens that make
>>>filtering by subject=
>
>> > very difficult. The subject line also contains a
>>>different subject in
>> > each posting, each day.'
>>
>> > I don't know that he is actually using gmail, but
>>>I thought I'd report
>> > him today, just in case it helps. If you want to
>>>report him, here's how:=
>
>>
>> > The abuse is reported by viewing the rec.aviation.soaring
>>>messages using=
>
>> > Google groups:
>>
>> >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.soaring/topics?lnk=3D
>>>>lr&hl=3D=
>en
>>
>> > Click on the message, click on 'More options', click
>>>'Report this
>> > message', select the 'Type of abuse' (I used 'Other'),
>>>fill in the
>> > message box, then click 'Report abuse'.
>>
>> > --
>> > Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA
>> > * Change 'netto' to 'net' to email me directly
>> > * 'Transponders in Sailplanes'http://tinyurl.com/y739x4
>> > * 'A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation'
>>>atwww.motorglider.org
>>
>> I reported all 16 messages that I found. =A0Thanks
>>for taking the
>> initiative.
>>
>> FC Norton
>
>

Ken Kochanski (KK)
January 1st 08, 10:28 PM
On Jan 1, 12:44 pm, Eric Greenwell > wrote:
> MI5 has crossed the line, now that he is deliberately attempting to
> evade people's filters against his postings. Since he appears to be
> using gmail, I reported about 6 of today's postings to Google, with this
> message:
>
> "This poster cross-posts multiple messages this newsgroup that are
> entirely outside the group's charter. The sender addresses are all gmail
> addresses and varied from day to day, so filtering based on address is
> very difficult. The subject always contains "MI5 Persecution", but with
> periods, commas, apostrophes, and hyphens that make filtering by subject
> very difficult. The subject line also contains a different subject in
> each posting, each day."
>
> I don't know that he is actually using gmail, but I thought I'd report
> him today, just in case it helps. If you want to report him, here's how:
>
> The abuse is reported by viewing the rec.aviation.soaring messages using
> Google groups:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.soaring/topics?lnk=lr&hl=en
>
> Click on the message, click on "More options", click "Report this
> message", select the "Type of abuse" (I used "Other"), fill in the
> message box, then click "Report abuse".
>
> --
> Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA
> * Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly
> * "Transponders in Sailplanes"http://tinyurl.com/y739x4
> * "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" atwww.motorglider.org

Thanks ... I reported a half-dozen messages today - and also did on
prior postings in the past. I would like to think that the Google
admins recognize this as abuse and have taken action - but wonder if
he is constantly shape-changing to avoid both user and Google filters/
controls. KK

chris
January 1st 08, 11:16 PM
On Jan 1, 12:44 pm, Eric Greenwell > wrote:
> MI5 has crossed the line,
Agreed, I've been reporting some too

Eric Greenwell
January 1st 08, 11:19 PM
raulb wrote:
> I tried complaining recently but all that happened was that I seem to
> have lost my ability to complain. When I hit :Show Options" all I get
> now are two options allowing me to expand the post or to view his
> profile (there is none). Somebody needs to do something about this
> idiot. Maybe MI-5 should do more than persecute him--they need to
> send the white coat boys after him.

About report #6, I got a window saying I needed to prove I wasn't
automated by typing in letters and numbers from a hard-to-read image.
After that, I was able to continue the reports.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA
* Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly
* "Transponders in Sailplanes" http://tinyurl.com/y739x4
* "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" at www.motorglider.org

chipsoars
January 2nd 08, 01:41 AM
On Jan 1, 6:16*pm, chris > wrote:
> On Jan 1, 12:44 pm, Eric Greenwell > wrote:> MI5 has crossed the line,
>
> Agreed, I've been reporting some too

This individual cross posts on other news groups like bicyles.tech
and .misc using different email extensions (where there is a .hotmail
and .lycos addresses respectively) . I hope there is a way to
eliminate these sporadic idiotic rantings.

Chip F.

January 2nd 08, 03:23 AM
On Jan 1, 9:44 am, Eric Greenwell > wrote:
> MI5 has crossed the line, now that he is deliberately attempting to
> evade people's filters against his postings. Since he appears to be
> using gmail, I reported about 6 of today's postings to Google, with this
> message:
>
> "This poster cross-posts multiple messages this newsgroup that are
> entirely outside the group's charter. The sender addresses are all gmail
> addresses and varied from day to day, so filtering based on address is
> very difficult. The subject always contains "MI5 Persecution", but with
> periods, commas, apostrophes, and hyphens that make filtering by subject
> very difficult. The subject line also contains a different subject in
> each posting, each day."
>
> I don't know that he is actually using gmail, but I thought I'd report
> him today, just in case it helps. If you want to report him, here's how:
>
> The abuse is reported by viewing the rec.aviation.soaring messages using
> Google groups:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.soaring/topics?lnk=lr&hl=en
>
> Click on the message, click on "More options", click "Report this
> message", select the "Type of abuse" (I used "Other"), fill in the
> message box, then click "Report abuse".
>
> --
> Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA
> * Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly
> * "Transponders in Sailplanes"http://tinyurl.com/y739x4
> * "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" at www.motorglider.org

Appears to be using Gmail, he just has a gmail reply addresses.
Depending on how the news service provider sets up their accounts
people might well be able to enter any reply address. The few messages
I bothered to look at came from Altopia.com, a news access service.

If reporting this to Google makes you feel better then do it, but it
unlikely it will have any effect on this moron. If you want to
complain somewhere directly complain to the service provider where
this crap originated. Look at the header information carefully to see
where it comes from (even Google Groups can show that). If there are
holes in account management at Altopia then maybe somebody from Google
will complain to them. Better news service providers should catch
rampant cross postings like this anyhow and at least close the gate
after the horse has bolted.

Darryl

January 4th 08, 08:03 PM
On Jan 1, 7:23*pm, " >
wrote:
> On Jan 1, 9:44 am, Eric Greenwell > wrote:
>
>
>
> > MI5 has crossed the line, now that he is deliberately attempting to
> > evade people's filters against his postings. Since he appears to be
> > using gmail, I reported about 6 of today's postings to Google, with this
> > message:
>
> > "This poster cross-posts multiple messages this newsgroup that are
> > entirely outside the group's charter. The sender addresses are all gmail
> > addresses and varied from day to day, so filtering based on address is
> > very difficult. The subject always contains "MI5 Persecution", but with
> > periods, commas, apostrophes, and hyphens that make filtering by subject
> > very difficult. The subject line also contains a different subject in
> > each posting, each day."
>
> > I don't know that he is actually using gmail, but I thought I'd report
> > him today, just in case it helps. If you want to report him, here's how:
>
> > The abuse is reported by viewing the rec.aviation.soaring messages using
> > Google groups:
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.soaring/topics?lnk=lr&hl=en
>
> > Click on the message, click on "More options", click "Report this
> > message", select the "Type of abuse" (I used "Other"), fill in the
> > message box, then click "Report abuse".
>
> > --
> > Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA
> > * Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly
> > * "Transponders in Sailplanes"http://tinyurl.com/y739x4
> > * "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" atwww.motorglider.org
>
> Appears to be using Gmail, he just has a gmail reply addresses.
> Depending on how the news service provider sets up their accounts
> people might well be able to enter any reply address. The few messages
> I bothered to look at came from Altopia.com, a news access service.
>
> If reporting this to Google makes you feel better then do it, but it
> unlikely it will have any effect on this moron. If you want to
> complain somewhere directly complain to the service provider where
> this crap originated. Look at the header information carefully to see
> where it comes from (even Google Groups can show that). If there are
> holes in account management at Altopia then maybe somebody from Google
> will complain to them. Better news service providers should catch
> rampant cross postings like this anyhow and at least close the gate
> after the horse has bolted.
>
> Darryl

We should have a bunch of our UK counterparts go round to this idiots
bed sit in Clapham south London, pull him out and smash his keyboard
in front of him.
Explaining as they do its MI5!!

That would be the proper way to deal with it.

Google