18M Class glider -which one to buy?

[Paul T]

OK you have a choice of the latest 18m flapped class
gliders - ASG29, HpH 304S Shark, DG808s, LAK-17, LS10,
JS1, Ventus2cx, Antares18s (think thats them all?)
which one would you buy and why?

[Udo]

You did not mention ASH26
I assume the turbo or self launch feature is of no consequence to you.
Is all out contest flying a consideration?
The above should be considered, as it would help those who may want to
comment .

> OK you have a choice of the latest 18m flapped class
> gliders - ASG29, HpH 304S Shark, DG808s, LAK-17, LS10,
> JS1, Ventus2cx, Antares18s (think thats them all?)
> *which one would you buy and why?

[nimbus]

ASH26E !!!

[[email protected]]

On Jan 15, 10:35 am, Paul T >
wrote:
> OK you have a choice of the latest 18m flapped class
> gliders - ASG29, HpH 304S Shark, DG808s, LAK-17, LS10,
> JS1, Ventus2cx, Antares18s (think thats them all?)
> which one would you buy and why?


Why limit yourself to only one?

[Udo]

On Jan 15, 2:37*pm, nimbus > wrote:
> ASH26E !!!

Why not just take off the E your self.

[nimbus]

On 15 jan, 22:04, Udo > wrote:
> On Jan 15, 2:37 pm, nimbus > wrote:
>
> > ASH26E !!!
>
> Why not just take off the E your self.

Well, I am not sure that there are so many ASH26E without E. Most of
them have been manufactured directly with the engine on board.
It is not easy to find an ASH26E on the market but finding an ASH26
(without E) should be a real challenge.

[john]

Excuse me for reporting that the new gliding magazine, Gliding
International, has literally taken off like a rocket.

It is three weeks since issue one first appeared and we have already reached
a breakeven point with every indication that subscribers will exceed 1000 by
issue two.

Our web site is up and running <www.glidinginternational.com/> and part of
the news section from issue one is on the web for all to read.

New subscribers can register on the secure site which is also now up on the
web.

We are always interested in new stories for our team to investigate.

JOHN ROAKE
EDITOR

>

[Nick Olson]

At 08:48 16 January 2008, John wrote:
>Excuse me for reporting that the new gliding magazine,
>Gliding
>International, has literally taken off like a rocket.
>
>It is three weeks since issue one first appeared and
>we have already reached
>a breakeven point with every indication that subscribers
>will exceed 1000 by
>issue two.
>
>Our web site is up and running and part of
>the news section from issue one is on the web for all
>to read.
>
>New subscribers can register on the secure site which
>is also now up on the
>web.
>
>We are always interested in new stories for our team
>to investigate.
>
>JOHN ROAKE
>EDITOR

Might be useful to give us the web address John -a
Google search didn't bring you up- better have a word
with you web designer! :-)

[John Galloway[_1_]]

My Google is better than your Google! Item 4 on request
of 'Gliding International' =

https://glidinginternational.com/

John Galloway


At 18:24 16 January 2008, Nick Olson wrote:
>At 08:48 16 January 2008, John wrote:
>>Excuse me for reporting that the new gliding magazine,
>>Gliding
>>International, has literally taken off like a rocket.
>>
>>It is three weeks since issue one first appeared and
>>we have already reached
>>a breakeven point with every indication that subscribers
>>will exceed 1000 by
>>issue two.
>>
>>Our web site is up and running and part of
>>the news section from issue one is on the web for all
>>to read.
>>
>>New subscribers can register on the secure site which
>>is also now up on the
>>web.
>>
>>We are always interested in new stories for our team
>>to investigate.
>>
>>JOHN ROAKE
>>EDITOR
>
>Might be useful to give us the web address John -a
>Google search didn't bring you up- better have a word
>with you web designer! :-)
>
>
>
>

[[email protected]]

On Jan 15, 1:35 pm, Paul T >
wrote:
> OK you have a choice of the latest 18m flapped class
> gliders - ASG29, HpH 304S Shark, DG808s, LAK-17, LS10,
> JS1, Ventus2cx, Antares18s (think thats them all?)
> which one would you buy and why?

After you have done your research, I can get you an Antares 18T
for next season (North America) !
Best Regards, Dave "YO electric"

[Clint]

On Jan 15, 8:35*pm, Paul T >
wrote:
> OK you have a choice of the latest 18m flapped class
> gliders - ASG29, HpH 304S Shark, DG808s, LAK-17, LS10,
> JS1, Ventus2cx, Antares18s (think thats them all?)
> *which one would you buy and why?

Well a JS1 has just won the South African nationals being flown by
Attie Jonker - beating the ASG 29, Ventus's, LAK 17 and the open class
gliders like the ASH25 and Nimbus 4 - looks like the Jonker Brothers
have designed a brilliant glider. Pricing is brilliant too. So when
passion and attention to design come together - the result is a
winner.

Clinton
LAK 12

[nimbusgb]

On 17 Jan, 16:54, Clint > wrote:
> On Jan 15, 8:35 pm, Paul T >
> wrote:
>
> > OK you have a choice of the latest 18m flapped class
> > gliders - ASG29, HpH 304S Shark, DG808s, LAK-17, LS10,
> > JS1, Ventus2cx, Antares18s (think thats them all?)
> > which one would you buy and why?
>
> Well a JS1 has just won the South African nationals being flown by
> Attie Jonker - beating the ASG 29, Ventus's, LAK 17 and the open class
> gliders like the ASH25 and Nimbus 4 - looks like the Jonker Brothers
> have designed a brilliant glider. Pricing is brilliant too. So when
> passion and attention to design come together - the result is a
> winner.
>
> Clinton
> LAK 12

Pricing is very close. The HpH 304 shark actually costs less ( about
3000 Euro ) and the base kit may be a little more comprehensive.
You save on shipping from SA to Europe ( another 3k? )
You save on having to obtain or maintain an SA licence until EASA
certification and then change registration marks etc.
The factory is a whole lot closer than SA.
on the other hand they speak better english in SA ( en ek praat
Afrikaans nogal! ) and the customer relations seems to be a whole lot
better down there.

The difference in performance is negligable and for the average pilot
like me non existant really.

Considering that this will be both the first new ship that I purchase
and that last one ( except perhaps another share in a 2 seater ) I am
considering robustness, longevity and for the sake of my estate, the
resale value of the ship once I shuffle off ( shuffle be damned I
going whith a bang hopefully )

The ASW has the name and early competition success to ensure that it
holds its value.

The JS1 has more than performance to prove and they are playing in a
big time!

Dont get me wrong I am a fan of the JS1 but like it or not one has to
be pragmatic.

Ian