Bertie the Bunyip[_22_]
January 20th 08, 01:56 AM
Rob Arndt > wrote in
:
> On Jan 19, 9:36Â*am, FledgeIII > wrote:
>> On Jan 19, 12:14 pm, Rob Arndt > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 19, 5:44 am, "Dean A. Markley" >
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > > Rob Arndt wrote:
>> > > > On Jan 18, 2:28 pm, " >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >> On Jan 18, 5:23 pm, Rob Arndt > wrote:
>>
>> > > >>> On Jan 18, 12:58�pm, (Harry Andreas)
> wrote:
>> > > >>>> In article
>> > > >>>> <7926405c-5309-4b31-a4c1-837d1d5ec...
@h11g2000prf.googlegroup
>> > > >>>> s.co
> m>,
>> > > >>>> beausabre > wrote:
>> > > >>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK
>> > > >>>>> A Continuing Series of Military, Naval & Aviation Subjects
>> > > >>>>>http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj227/REN237/cutter1-
1.jpg
>> > > >>>>> The Coast Guard Cutter Northland (WPG 49) shows the
>> > > >>>>> effectivenes
> s of
>> > > >>>>> the dull white and pale blue of her Measure 16 "Thayer
>> > > >>>>> System" A
> rctic
>> > > >>>>> camouflage while operating in the ice off Greenland in a
>> > > >>>>> picture
> that,
>> > > >>>>> judging by her radar (SO or SL on foremast and SK-2 on
>> > > >>>>> main) dat
> es to
>> > > >>>>> 1944. Note the prominent life rafts on the bridge face. ï¿
> ½
>> > > >>>> Very interesting, and dare I say it....cool.
>> > > >>>> Those big square things on the bridge face are life rafts?
>> > > >>>> They don't look like any I've seen.
>> > > >>>> There is a life raft visible on the >side< of the bridge
>> > > >>>> (just to
> the right
>> > > >>>> of the hanging lifeboat), which is �the type I'm used to
> seeing on these
>> > > >>>> period photos.
>> > > >>>> If the big square things are not life rafts, then what?
>> > > >>>> Inquiring minds
>> > > >>>> --
>> > > >>>> Harry Andreas
>> > > >>>> Engineering raconteur
>> > > >>> Wow... yawn... and now for something completley different.
>> > > >>> Here's what the German Superbattleship H44 "Goetz von
>> > > >>> Berlichingen
> " or
>> > > >>> possibly "Ulrich von Hutten" would have looked like next to
>> > > >>> Tirpit
> z:http://forum.axishistory.com/files/h-44-design.jpg
>> > > >>> Part of the Z--Plan projections from H39-H44 (1939-1946).
>> > > >>> Rob :)
>> > > >> Â* Â*What's funny is that the little Coast Guard cutter cou
> ld kick the
>> > > >> big bad battleship's butt......because....wait for it..... the
>> > > >> battleship never existed.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > > >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > > > Ah, c'mon... he's posting PICTURE OF THE WEEK and so far we got
>> > > > an artillery piece and a ship.
>>
>> > > > I'm only slightly mocking the TOPIC, not the poster.
>>
>> > > > Gotta admit that the Kriegsmarine fake pic is impressive, no
>> > > > matter what the reality was. H39 "Hindenburg" was actually laid
>> > > > down in 193
> 9
>> > > > but scrapped. H44 is the 1946 projection of the greatest
>> > > > battleship ever planned- a 70,000 ton beast. Would have made
>> > > > Bismarck look weak
>
>> > > > by comparison.
>>
>> > > > Rob
>>
>> > > Bismarck was nothing but a rehash of the WWI Baden class. Â*It
>> > > was
> not a
>> > > particularly good design. Â*Yes it did indeed take quite a
>> > > wallopi
> ng but
>> > > it was mission-killed by one rather small torpedo fired by
>> > > another WWI
>
>> > > design derivative, the Swordfish (note, now qualifies as aviation
>> > > related). Â*The H-39 and H-44 classes were enlarged Bismarcks and
> would
>> > > have been a complete waste of resources.
>>
>> > > As an aside, my golden retriever is named Bismarck....when he was
>> > > a pu
> p,
>> > > Â* it was noted that he had huge paws and was likely to be
>> > > destruc
> tive,
>> > > hence the name.
>>
>> > > Dean- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > That's nothing compared to Bismarck's secret weapon- Oscar the cat!
>>
>> >http://www.purr-n-fur.org.uk/featuring/war/02oscar.jpg
>>
>> > Â*Bismarck, the German battleship, was sunk on 27 May 1941. Of more
>> > than 2200 men on board, only 116 survived — together with Oscar,
> the
>> > ship's cat (left). He was picked up by the British destroyer HMS
>> > Cossack, but that too was torpedoed a few months later, on 24
>> > October, with the loss of 159 lives. Attempts to rescue the ship
>> > failed, and it was abandoned and sank two days later. Oscar
>> > survived again, was taken to Gibraltar, and then was taken on by
>> > HMS Ark Royal. His stay there was even shorter, as the aircraft
>> > carrier was torpedoed by U-81 on 13 November, eventually capsizing
>> > and sinking only 30 miles (50 km) from Gibraltar. Yet again Oscar
>> > was lucky — but there were no more sh
> ips
>> > for him, as it was decided that his presence was certainly not
>> > lucky! By now known as 'Unsinkable Sam', this great survivor among
>> > cats stayed as mouse-catcher in the Governor General of Gibraltar's
>> > office buildings until he was taken by a brave ship to Belfast, in
>> > Northern Ireland (although some reports say Plymouth). There he
>> > lived until his death in 1955, at the 'Home for Sailors'. A
>> > portrait of him has a place of honour in the National Maritime
>> > Museum in Greenwich, on the River Thames near London.
>>
>> > A battleship (HMS Hood), a destroyer (HMS Cossack), and an aircraft
>> > carrier (HMS Ark Royal)... DAMN, that cat was good :)
>>
>> > Rob
>>
>> > p.s. First feline POW was Tiger from a Ju-88:
>>
>> > During WW2 a German bomber was shot down near Newport, in South
>> > Wales, and was found to have a cat on board! He became the first
>> > feline prisoner of war when he was taken to an animal shelter in
>> > the area, run by Our Dumb Friends' League (later part of the PDSA).
>> > He was named Tiger, and initially was said to 'show several German
>> > characteristics' (not enlarged upon). After living in the League's
>> > care for a while, he apparently became 'a docile, well-mannered and
>> > well-behaved cat'.
>>
>> > Unknown German ship's cat U-boat:
>>
>> > The story is told of a cat called U-Boat, from a ship of unknown
>> > name, who loved to take shore leave — sometimes for days — as
> soon as his
>> > ship reached port, but with a cat's uncanny instinct would always
>> > return just before sailing time. One day he misjudged his timing
>> > and missed roll call — so the ship had to get under way. As the
>> > crew
>
>> > looked back, they saw U-Boat running helter-skelter along the dock
>> > before making a death-defying leap onto the deck. He promptly sat
>> > down to wash himself and regain his composure, to the delight of
>> > the crew who were so pleased to have their 'good luck mascot'
>> > safely back.
>>
>> Which is the same lame "Bismark's Mascot" trash you posted two weeks
>> ago:
>>
>> Bismarck, the German battleship, was sunk on 27 May 1941. Of more
>> than 2200
>> men on board, only 116 survived -- together with Oscar, the ship's
>> cat (left).
>> He was picked up by the British destroyer HMS Cossack, but that too
>> was torpedoed
>> a few months later, on 24 October, with the loss of 159 lives. ...
>> Dec 31 2007 by Rob Arndt - 2 messages - 2 authors
>>
>> > Wow... yawn... and now for something completley different.
>>
>> <zzzzzzzz>- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Fine, match these for vessels.
>
> http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/VS%205.htm
> http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/Ladungsschnellboot%20Linse.htm
> http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/TR.htm
> http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/Manta.htm
> http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/BORGWARD%20SEETEUFEL.htm
>
> As a matter of fact, post ANYTHING that relates to the topic... if you
> are capable. OP is on vessels now...
>
Hello, remember me/
Bertie
:
> On Jan 19, 9:36Â*am, FledgeIII > wrote:
>> On Jan 19, 12:14 pm, Rob Arndt > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 19, 5:44 am, "Dean A. Markley" >
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > > Rob Arndt wrote:
>> > > > On Jan 18, 2:28 pm, " >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >> On Jan 18, 5:23 pm, Rob Arndt > wrote:
>>
>> > > >>> On Jan 18, 12:58�pm, (Harry Andreas)
> wrote:
>> > > >>>> In article
>> > > >>>> <7926405c-5309-4b31-a4c1-837d1d5ec...
@h11g2000prf.googlegroup
>> > > >>>> s.co
> m>,
>> > > >>>> beausabre > wrote:
>> > > >>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK
>> > > >>>>> A Continuing Series of Military, Naval & Aviation Subjects
>> > > >>>>>http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj227/REN237/cutter1-
1.jpg
>> > > >>>>> The Coast Guard Cutter Northland (WPG 49) shows the
>> > > >>>>> effectivenes
> s of
>> > > >>>>> the dull white and pale blue of her Measure 16 "Thayer
>> > > >>>>> System" A
> rctic
>> > > >>>>> camouflage while operating in the ice off Greenland in a
>> > > >>>>> picture
> that,
>> > > >>>>> judging by her radar (SO or SL on foremast and SK-2 on
>> > > >>>>> main) dat
> es to
>> > > >>>>> 1944. Note the prominent life rafts on the bridge face. ï¿
> ½
>> > > >>>> Very interesting, and dare I say it....cool.
>> > > >>>> Those big square things on the bridge face are life rafts?
>> > > >>>> They don't look like any I've seen.
>> > > >>>> There is a life raft visible on the >side< of the bridge
>> > > >>>> (just to
> the right
>> > > >>>> of the hanging lifeboat), which is �the type I'm used to
> seeing on these
>> > > >>>> period photos.
>> > > >>>> If the big square things are not life rafts, then what?
>> > > >>>> Inquiring minds
>> > > >>>> --
>> > > >>>> Harry Andreas
>> > > >>>> Engineering raconteur
>> > > >>> Wow... yawn... and now for something completley different.
>> > > >>> Here's what the German Superbattleship H44 "Goetz von
>> > > >>> Berlichingen
> " or
>> > > >>> possibly "Ulrich von Hutten" would have looked like next to
>> > > >>> Tirpit
> z:http://forum.axishistory.com/files/h-44-design.jpg
>> > > >>> Part of the Z--Plan projections from H39-H44 (1939-1946).
>> > > >>> Rob :)
>> > > >> Â* Â*What's funny is that the little Coast Guard cutter cou
> ld kick the
>> > > >> big bad battleship's butt......because....wait for it..... the
>> > > >> battleship never existed.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > > >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > > > Ah, c'mon... he's posting PICTURE OF THE WEEK and so far we got
>> > > > an artillery piece and a ship.
>>
>> > > > I'm only slightly mocking the TOPIC, not the poster.
>>
>> > > > Gotta admit that the Kriegsmarine fake pic is impressive, no
>> > > > matter what the reality was. H39 "Hindenburg" was actually laid
>> > > > down in 193
> 9
>> > > > but scrapped. H44 is the 1946 projection of the greatest
>> > > > battleship ever planned- a 70,000 ton beast. Would have made
>> > > > Bismarck look weak
>
>> > > > by comparison.
>>
>> > > > Rob
>>
>> > > Bismarck was nothing but a rehash of the WWI Baden class. Â*It
>> > > was
> not a
>> > > particularly good design. Â*Yes it did indeed take quite a
>> > > wallopi
> ng but
>> > > it was mission-killed by one rather small torpedo fired by
>> > > another WWI
>
>> > > design derivative, the Swordfish (note, now qualifies as aviation
>> > > related). Â*The H-39 and H-44 classes were enlarged Bismarcks and
> would
>> > > have been a complete waste of resources.
>>
>> > > As an aside, my golden retriever is named Bismarck....when he was
>> > > a pu
> p,
>> > > Â* it was noted that he had huge paws and was likely to be
>> > > destruc
> tive,
>> > > hence the name.
>>
>> > > Dean- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > That's nothing compared to Bismarck's secret weapon- Oscar the cat!
>>
>> >http://www.purr-n-fur.org.uk/featuring/war/02oscar.jpg
>>
>> > Â*Bismarck, the German battleship, was sunk on 27 May 1941. Of more
>> > than 2200 men on board, only 116 survived — together with Oscar,
> the
>> > ship's cat (left). He was picked up by the British destroyer HMS
>> > Cossack, but that too was torpedoed a few months later, on 24
>> > October, with the loss of 159 lives. Attempts to rescue the ship
>> > failed, and it was abandoned and sank two days later. Oscar
>> > survived again, was taken to Gibraltar, and then was taken on by
>> > HMS Ark Royal. His stay there was even shorter, as the aircraft
>> > carrier was torpedoed by U-81 on 13 November, eventually capsizing
>> > and sinking only 30 miles (50 km) from Gibraltar. Yet again Oscar
>> > was lucky — but there were no more sh
> ips
>> > for him, as it was decided that his presence was certainly not
>> > lucky! By now known as 'Unsinkable Sam', this great survivor among
>> > cats stayed as mouse-catcher in the Governor General of Gibraltar's
>> > office buildings until he was taken by a brave ship to Belfast, in
>> > Northern Ireland (although some reports say Plymouth). There he
>> > lived until his death in 1955, at the 'Home for Sailors'. A
>> > portrait of him has a place of honour in the National Maritime
>> > Museum in Greenwich, on the River Thames near London.
>>
>> > A battleship (HMS Hood), a destroyer (HMS Cossack), and an aircraft
>> > carrier (HMS Ark Royal)... DAMN, that cat was good :)
>>
>> > Rob
>>
>> > p.s. First feline POW was Tiger from a Ju-88:
>>
>> > During WW2 a German bomber was shot down near Newport, in South
>> > Wales, and was found to have a cat on board! He became the first
>> > feline prisoner of war when he was taken to an animal shelter in
>> > the area, run by Our Dumb Friends' League (later part of the PDSA).
>> > He was named Tiger, and initially was said to 'show several German
>> > characteristics' (not enlarged upon). After living in the League's
>> > care for a while, he apparently became 'a docile, well-mannered and
>> > well-behaved cat'.
>>
>> > Unknown German ship's cat U-boat:
>>
>> > The story is told of a cat called U-Boat, from a ship of unknown
>> > name, who loved to take shore leave — sometimes for days — as
> soon as his
>> > ship reached port, but with a cat's uncanny instinct would always
>> > return just before sailing time. One day he misjudged his timing
>> > and missed roll call — so the ship had to get under way. As the
>> > crew
>
>> > looked back, they saw U-Boat running helter-skelter along the dock
>> > before making a death-defying leap onto the deck. He promptly sat
>> > down to wash himself and regain his composure, to the delight of
>> > the crew who were so pleased to have their 'good luck mascot'
>> > safely back.
>>
>> Which is the same lame "Bismark's Mascot" trash you posted two weeks
>> ago:
>>
>> Bismarck, the German battleship, was sunk on 27 May 1941. Of more
>> than 2200
>> men on board, only 116 survived -- together with Oscar, the ship's
>> cat (left).
>> He was picked up by the British destroyer HMS Cossack, but that too
>> was torpedoed
>> a few months later, on 24 October, with the loss of 159 lives. ...
>> Dec 31 2007 by Rob Arndt - 2 messages - 2 authors
>>
>> > Wow... yawn... and now for something completley different.
>>
>> <zzzzzzzz>- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Fine, match these for vessels.
>
> http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/VS%205.htm
> http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/Ladungsschnellboot%20Linse.htm
> http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/TR.htm
> http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/Manta.htm
> http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/BORGWARD%20SEETEUFEL.htm
>
> As a matter of fact, post ANYTHING that relates to the topic... if you
> are capable. OP is on vessels now...
>
Hello, remember me/
Bertie