Gottingen 549 Airfoil Experimental Data?

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The Gottingen 549 Airfoil is used on many sailplanes, including my
Cherokee II. For my aerodynamics class, I am developing a FORTRAN
program to use the panel method to determine aerodynamic coefficients
for an airfoil. Part of the exercise is to first pick an airfoil with
known coordinates and with available wind tunnel or other experimental
data so that we have something to compare our final answer. I would
obviously enjoy using the Cherokee's airfoil for the project, but can
not find any experimental data out there for it. Any suggestions?
Thanks!

[Craig[_2_]]

On Jan 21, 2:39 pm, wrote:
> The Gottingen 549 Airfoil is used on many sailplanes, including my
> Cherokee II. For my aerodynamics class, I am developing a FORTRAN
> program to use the panel method to determine aerodynamic coefficients
> for an airfoil. Part of the exercise is to first pick an airfoil with
> known coordinates and with available wind tunnel or other experimental
> data so that we have something to compare our final answer. I would
> obviously enjoy using the Cherokee's airfoil for the project, but can
> not find any experimental data out there for it. Any suggestions?
> Thanks!

No luck so far with the Goe 549. Michael Selig and his group have
data on their site for the Goe-417a
http://www.ae.uiuc.edu/m-selig/pub/LSATs/vol3/
Lots of other interesting data for other airfoils also.

Good luck with your project,
Craig

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On Jan 21, 5:43 pm, Craig > wrote:
> On Jan 21, 2:39 pm, wrote:
>
> > The Gottingen 549 Airfoil is used on many sailplanes, including my
> > Cherokee II. For my aerodynamics class, I am developing a FORTRAN
> > program to use the panel method to determine aerodynamic coefficients
> > for an airfoil. Part of the exercise is to first pick an airfoil with
> > known coordinates and with available wind tunnel or other experimental
> > data so that we have something to compare our final answer. I would
> > obviously enjoy using the Cherokee's airfoil for the project, but can
> > not find any experimental data out there for it. Any suggestions?
> > Thanks!
>
> No luck so far with the Goe 549. Michael Selig and his group have
> data on their site for the Goe-417ahttp://www.ae.uiuc.edu/m-selig/pub/LSATs/vol3/
> Lots of other interesting data for other airfoils also.
>
> Good luck with your project,
> Craig

Craig,

thanks I had come across UIUC's website. Let me know if you find
anything out there!

Tony

[Martin Gregorie[_1_]]

wrote:
> On Jan 21, 5:43 pm, Craig > wrote:
>> On Jan 21, 2:39 pm, wrote:
>>
>>> The Gottingen 549 Airfoil is used on many sailplanes, including my
>>> Cherokee II. For my aerodynamics class, I am developing a FORTRAN
>>> program to use the panel method to determine aerodynamic coefficients
>>> for an airfoil. Part of the exercise is to first pick an airfoil with
>>> known coordinates and with available wind tunnel or other experimental
>>> data so that we have something to compare our final answer. I would
>>> obviously enjoy using the Cherokee's airfoil for the project, but can
>>> not find any experimental data out there for it. Any suggestions?
>>> Thanks!
>> No luck so far with the Goe 549. Michael Selig and his group have
>> data on their site for the Goe-417ahttp://www.ae.uiuc.edu/m-selig/pub/LSATs/vol3/
>> Lots of other interesting data for other airfoils also.
>>
>> Good luck with your project,
>> Craig
>
> Craig,
>
> thanks I had come across UIUC's website. Let me know if you find
> anything out there!
>
Have you considered using Mark Drela's XFOIL instead of writing your own
analysis program?

http://raphael.mit.edu/xfoil/

If you have a good set of section co-ordinates for the Go 549 and can
approximate the RN you operate at, then XFOIL can generate the polars,
etc. from it.

If you're running 32 bit Windows you can download the executable. For
anything else that has the GNU C/C++ compiler and the Fortran 77
preprocessor (f77) installed, just download the source files and compile
it.


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gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |

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On Jan 22, 10:14 am, Martin Gregorie >
wrote:
> wrote:
> > On Jan 21, 5:43 pm, Craig > wrote:
> >> On Jan 21, 2:39 pm, wrote:
>
> >>> The Gottingen 549 Airfoil is used on many sailplanes, including my
> >>> Cherokee II. For my aerodynamics class, I am developing a FORTRAN
> >>> program to use the panel method to determine aerodynamic coefficients
> >>> for an airfoil. Part of the exercise is to first pick an airfoil with
> >>> known coordinates and with available wind tunnel or other experimental
> >>> data so that we have something to compare our final answer. I would
> >>> obviously enjoy using the Cherokee's airfoil for the project, but can
> >>> not find any experimental data out there for it. Any suggestions?
> >>> Thanks!
> >> No luck so far with the Goe 549. Michael Selig and his group have
> >> data on their site for the Goe-417ahttp://www.ae.uiuc.edu/m-selig/pub/LSATs/vol3/
> >> Lots of other interesting data for other airfoils also.
>
> >> Good luck with your project,
> >> Craig
>
> > Craig,
>
> > thanks I had come across UIUC's website. Let me know if you find
> > anything out there!
>
> Have you considered using Mark Drela's XFOIL instead of writing your own
> analysis program?
>
> http://raphael.mit.edu/xfoil/
>
> If you have a good set of section co-ordinates for the Go 549 and can
> approximate the RN you operate at, then XFOIL can generate the polars,
> etc. from it.
>
> If you're running 32 bit Windows you can download the executable. For
> anything else that has the GNU C/C++ compiler and the Fortran 77
> preprocessor (f77) installed, just download the source files and compile
> it.
>
> --
> martin@ | Martin Gregorie
> gregorie. | Essex, UK
> org |

That would, and does, work very well for getting the aerodynamic
characteristics of an airfoil.
The assignment is to find an airfoil that has known experimental data,
such as wind tunnel testing. Then we write our own FORTRAN code and
check our results against the experimental data. Sadly, I dont think
running the shape in XFOIL would satisfy the "experimental data"
requirement.

[Steve]

On Jan 21, 3:39*pm, wrote:
> The Gottingen 549 Airfoil is used on many sailplanes, including my
> Cherokee II. *For my aerodynamics class, I am developing a FORTRAN
> program to use the panel method to determine aerodynamic coefficients
> for an airfoil. *Part of the exercise is to first pick an airfoil with
> known coordinates and with available wind tunnel or other experimental
> data so that we have something to compare our final answer. *I would
> obviously enjoy using the Cherokee's airfoil for the project, but can
> not find any experimental data out there for it. *Any suggestions?
> Thanks!

Coodinates and wind tunnel data for the Gottingen 549 airfoil is
included in "Comprehensive Reference Guide to Airfoil Sections for
Light Aircraft (c) 1982 by Aviation Publications, Appleton, WI
Good Luck

[Martin Gregorie[_1_]]

wrote:
> On Jan 22, 10:14 am, Martin Gregorie >
> wrote:
>> wrote:
>>> On Jan 21, 5:43 pm, Craig > wrote:
>>>> On Jan 21, 2:39 pm, wrote:
>>>>> The Gottingen 549 Airfoil is used on many sailplanes, including my
>>>>> Cherokee II. For my aerodynamics class, I am developing a FORTRAN
>>>>> program to use the panel method to determine aerodynamic coefficients
>>>>> for an airfoil. Part of the exercise is to first pick an airfoil with
>>>>> known coordinates and with available wind tunnel or other experimental
>>>>> data so that we have something to compare our final answer. I would
>>>>> obviously enjoy using the Cherokee's airfoil for the project, but can
>>>>> not find any experimental data out there for it. Any suggestions?
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>> No luck so far with the Goe 549. Michael Selig and his group have
>>>> data on their site for the Goe-417ahttp://www.ae.uiuc.edu/m-selig/pub/LSATs/vol3/
>>>> Lots of other interesting data for other airfoils also.
>>>> Good luck with your project,
>>>> Craig
>>> Craig,
>>> thanks I had come across UIUC's website. Let me know if you find
>>> anything out there!
>> Have you considered using Mark Drela's XFOIL instead of writing your own
>> analysis program?
>>
>> http://raphael.mit.edu/xfoil/
>>
>> If you have a good set of section co-ordinates for the Go 549 and can
>> approximate the RN you operate at, then XFOIL can generate the polars,
>> etc. from it.
>>
>> If you're running 32 bit Windows you can download the executable. For
>> anything else that has the GNU C/C++ compiler and the Fortran 77
>> preprocessor (f77) installed, just download the source files and compile
>> it.
>>
>> --
>> martin@ | Martin Gregorie
>> gregorie. | Essex, UK
>> org |
>
> That would, and does, work very well for getting the aerodynamic
> characteristics of an airfoil.
> The assignment is to find an airfoil that has known experimental data,
> such as wind tunnel testing. Then we write our own FORTRAN code and
> check our results against the experimental data. Sadly, I dont think
> running the shape in XFOIL would satisfy the "experimental data"
> requirement.
>
OK. Just me not reading carefully enough.

Have you tried any model flying sources? An e-mail to the National Free
Flight Society, http://freeflight.org/ might get you a lead.


--
martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |

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On Jan 22, 3:41 pm, Steve > wrote:
> On Jan 21, 3:39 pm, wrote:
>
> > The Gottingen 549 Airfoil is used on many sailplanes, including my
> > Cherokee II. For my aerodynamics class, I am developing a FORTRAN
> > program to use the panel method to determine aerodynamic coefficients
> > for an airfoil. Part of the exercise is to first pick an airfoil with
> > known coordinates and with available wind tunnel or other experimental
> > data so that we have something to compare our final answer. I would
> > obviously enjoy using the Cherokee's airfoil for the project, but can
> > not find any experimental data out there for it. Any suggestions?
> > Thanks!
>
> Coodinates and wind tunnel data for the Gottingen 549 airfoil is
> included in "Comprehensive Reference Guide to Airfoil Sections for
> Light Aircraft (c) 1982 by Aviation Publications, Appleton, WI
> Good Luck

Steve - THANK YOU!

[jth[_2_]]

GOE 549 is shown also in the Profili 2 airfoil program.

[[email protected]]

On Jan 22, 10:40 pm, wrote:
> On Jan 22, 3:41 pm, Steve > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 21, 3:39 pm, wrote:
>
> > > The Gottingen 549 Airfoil is used on many sailplanes, including my
> > > Cherokee II. For my aerodynamics class, I am developing a FORTRAN
> > > program to use the panel method to determine aerodynamic coefficients
> > > for an airfoil. Part of the exercise is to first pick an airfoil with
> > > known coordinates and with available wind tunnel or other experimental
> > > data so that we have something to compare our final answer. I would
> > > obviously enjoy using the Cherokee's airfoil for the project, but can
> > > not find any experimental data out there for it. Any suggestions?
> > > Thanks!
>
> > Coodinates and wind tunnel data for the Gottingen 549 airfoil is
> > included in "Comprehensive Reference Guide to Airfoil Sections for
> > Light Aircraft (c) 1982 by Aviation Publications, Appleton, WI
> > Good Luck
>
> Steve - THANK YOU!

Got the book today. Interesting that the wind tunnel data is from
1926!