Interesting idea..... internal Jet with pop up pipe

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http://www.alsgallery.co.uk/view_photo.php?set_albumName=pampa&id=abb

Neat install I wonder what the cooling requirements are.

Cheers

Al

[Gary Emerson]

The noise might also be an issue, but neat idea...

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> Neat install I wonder what the cooling requirements are.
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> Cheers
>
> Al
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[Phil Jeffery]

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> http://www.alsgallery.co.uk/view_photo.php?set_albumName=pampa&id=abb
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> Neat install I wonder what the cooling requirements are.
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> Cheers
>
> Al

I'd rather have it in the breeze so I can see it with a mirror. If it then
catches fire where it's not supposed to I have a chance of cutting off the
fuel supply before it becomes catastrophic.

[GM]

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> http://www.alsgallery.co.uk/view_photo.php?set_albumName=pampa&id=abb
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> Neat install I wonder what the cooling requirements are.
>
> Cheers
>
> Al

Hi all,

nothing new - has been done already in the early 1960's! Take a look
at http://vintagesailplanes.de/Huetter30TS.htm
Same concept - just reversed. The Huetter H30TS design shows many of
the features of the H101 Salto as well as the H301/201 series.

Uli Neumann
Libelle H301 'GM'

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On Jan 22, 6:49*pm, GM > wrote:
> On Jan 22, 5:36*am, " >
> wrote:
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> >http://www.alsgallery.co.uk/view_photo.php?set_albumName=pampa&id=abb
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> > Neat install I wonder what the cooling requirements are.
>
> > Cheers
>
> > Al
>
> Hi all,
>
> nothing new - has been done already in the early 1960's! Take a look
> athttp://vintagesailplanes.de/Huetter30TS.htm
> Same concept - just reversed. The Huetter H30TS design shows many of
> the features of the H101 Salto as well as the H301/201 series.
>
> Uli Neumann
> Libelle H301 'GM'

Thats Great..
I had heard of that model before but not with the same documentation
of that page.

Question on everyones lips is.... WHERE ARE THEY NOW?

Cheers

Al

[Martin Gregorie[_1_]]

GM wrote:
>
> nothing new - has been done already in the early 1960's! Take a look
> at http://vintagesailplanes.de/Huetter30TS.htm
> Same concept - just reversed. The Huetter H30TS design shows many of
> the features of the H101 Salto as well as the H301/201 series.
>
There's an English description, photo and 3-view drawing of the Hutter
H-30 in Martin Simons' book "Sailplanes 1945-1965" pages 261-264.

The article also describes how the Libelle H301, HBV Diamant series,
Standard Libelle and H-101 Salto were derived from it. There's a nice
3-view of the H.301 Libelle too.


--
martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |

[GM]

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> > >http://www.alsgallery.co.uk/view_photo.php?set_albumName=pampa&id=abb
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> > > Neat install I wonder what the cooling requirements are.
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> > > Cheers
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> > > Al
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> > Hi all,
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> > nothing new - has been done already in the early 1960's! Take a look
> > athttp://vintagesailplanes.de/Huetter30TS.htm
> > Same concept - just reversed. The Huetter H30TS design shows many of
> > the features of the H101 Salto as well as the H301/201 series.
>
> > Uli Neumann
> > Libelle H301 'GM'
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> Thats Great..
> I had heard of that model before but not with the same documentation
> of that page.
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> Question on everyones lips is.... *WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
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> Cheers
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Al,

you're welcome!
If you mean 'where is the glider now', well, according that text, the
H30TS was flown without the engine for a while before it got destroyed
in a winch launch accident. Bummer!!
Another neat jey powered glider with internal engines is the Swiss
built Prometheus. Its a side-by-side two seater with two small
engines. It is used as a test bed for all kinds of wing
configurations.

Uli Neumann

[KevinFinke]

We have a local pilot, Dave "Hammer" Harris who has a Caproni A21J out
at the Ephrata field. Here's a website from one of our soaring club
pilots, Stan Kasprzyk, and his adventure in the Jet Caproni Sailplane.
Cool Pictures too.

http://flightlog.seven-alpha.com/ca.html

-Kevin

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On Jan 22, 11:36*am, " >
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> http://www.alsgallery.co.uk/view_photo.php?set_albumName=pampa&id=abb
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> Neat install I wonder what the cooling requirements are.
>
> Cheers
>
> Al

I have pictures of the Apis Jet from Aero 2007. Don't know if they
can be posted here or not. I can't find a way. It uses two NACA
scoops on the lower forward fuselage and the exhaust exits the belly
behind the landing gear. The whole engine pivots to retract the
exhaust with out a flexible joint. I can't say I was very impressed
with the installation - especially with regard to fireproofing. The
Huetter H30TS mentioned in the post seems to have a very similar
engine installation. I imagine that is where the inspiration for the
jet Apis came from. As usual, not much is really new.

I also have pictures of the Swiss Prometheus. Spent a lot of time in
the hangar where it is stored in the last few years.