Portable Aircraft HF Radio Build (Going to Be Long) Multiple Posts....

[NW_Pilot]

Hello, Usenet, Jay, Marry, Montblack, And Friends!!!

Since Comcast is so lame and Lost the HF thread will start my own.

HF-Box build project, Goal is to simplify next flight T182T to Qatar next
week!!! and return airline flight home with equipment not broken.

Most all you know what I do for a living fun, fun, fun, :-) yep mostly
Single Engine Piston Aircraft Over Oceans it some times requires an HF
Radio!

Well I got tired of always fumbling with HF wiring Special Flight Permit
Allows!! A Power Drop For HF When Tanked!! So I decided to package it all in
to one small portable airline carry on size case case. I used a Pelican case
just incase I may be harassed and asked to check it as I have in the past
(Thanks!! Delta, Virgin, and TSA A-holes)

This Case Will Not Be Water Tight It Requires Drilling Holes!!!! Pelican
Unconditional Warranty Still Applies Leaving Holes To Min. MADE IN USA WITH
GREAT WARRANTY!!!

Supply List,

Pelican 1450 Case About $75.00 Shipped (No Foam)
HF Radio ICOM 706MKIIG 100 Watt $949.00 On Sale Ham Radio Outlet (Remote
Mount Kit Required It's UsuallyFree + a $50 to $100 Rebate) Look Here
http://www.icomamerica.com/amateur/hf/index.html#706
Automatic Antenna Tuner SGC 237 100 Watt (or 239) $359.00
Astron 24 to 12V Converter 20 Amp 24 Peak About $150.00
2 Nice Size Pieces Of Aluminum ($ Varies Mine Was Donated By Horizon Air
Trash Can! Yea, I Dumpster Diving Again!!)
A Bunch Of Mics. Items Don't feel like Listing them All Use Your Brain!!!
(Jacks PL235 1000UF 25V Cap And 10K Resister, 1 or 2 Computer Fans Etc.)
MCM, Norvac, Etc. ($$ Varies)
Tools, Tin Snips Left, Right, Straight, Soldering Iron, Solder, Drill And
Assorted Bits, Rivet's And Rivnuts...Lots of Heat Shrink, Epoxy, Your Brain,
and Harbor Freight If you have a local one!!! (My Case Friends Snap-On Truck
& My Own Good Tool Collection)

You will need Soldering Skills, An Adult Beverage I Like Whiskey, Kitchen
(Aka, Workshop) And AN Understanding Wife!!! For making a Big Mess!!!

This Pelican Case will give you enough Space to Pack The Radio, Long Wire
Antenna, Tools, And Universal Mounting Hardware Cessna, Piper, Grumman,
Etc... Single And Multi All Connections Antenna's. Power, Ground And Control
head will be External Mount Quick Connect.

Photos Will Be Out Of Numerical Order,
The Case, Pelican 1450 Perfect Size About $70.00 No Foam
http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010546.JPG
http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010544.JPG

Take You Sheet Of Aluminum Cut it To Fit The Bottom Of the Pelican Case.
Don't Cut your Fingers....I did not want to use my CNC mill for this to much
work to clean the Garage to get to the dam thing. Ok, Mount the Radio Mount
To This!!! I Used 1/8" Pop Rivets...
http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010541.JPG
http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010542.JPG

Verify Fit In Case, Looks Ok!
http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010545.JPG

Remove Frome Case and Mount Radio
http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010547.JPG
http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010548.JPG

Verify Fit In Case, You want About 1/2 Inch for Cable Clearance On Front
Remote Mount Cable.
http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010549.JPG
http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010550.JPG

Time To Mount The Antenna Tuner, Ok I used scotch bright pads with a right
angel die grinder to remove the paint off the bottom of the SGC-237 (No
Photo) because if you have not guessed it by now we are using the aluminum
sheet as a ground for this project. A good ground with a wire antenna is key
for this set up.

http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010552.JPG

Verify Fit In Case, Make Another Adult Beverage!!!
http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010553.JPG
http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010554.JPG

Find A Spot For Cooling Fan Placement, (I Do Have A Guard For The Fan)
http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010555.JPG

Remove Lid Re Clock 180 Degrees Add Auto Tune Cap & Resister To the Inside
Of Tuner At The Terminal Connector.
http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010559.JPG

More Inside the SGC237
http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010560.JPG

Preview Of Mounting Astron Voltage Converter to lid Of SGC-237 Antenna
Tuner,
http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010557.JPG
http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010558.JPG


Tomorrow!!! Mounting Voltage Converter, And Selector Switch 14v or 28v
Systems, Adding External Fuse's, Cutting Top Plate, Adding Antenna And Power
Connectors, Airflow Cooling Tests, Etc...

You, Want to use Nylon Screws When Mounting the Astron Voltage Converter
dure to the High Voltage In The Antenna Tuner.

This box is nowhere done I may find problems and Issues along the way and
correct...will post trial and error. I will try and be strait fwd as
possible.. All input will be accepted. Used??

BBL!!!

Photo's Of Diesel 182 Coming Soon Trip to Tanzania is Delayed Due to FAA
B.S. Supplemental Type Cert Update From SMA!!! Oops!!!

OH!! Jay, You Will get To see the Tanzinia Bird, Tanked and all when I stop
by for a night at my favorite hotel..... What room do I wanna stay in this
time? Lets See if I can sleep in them all by 2009 hahaha !!

[Denny]

When the TSA gobs see this at the airline terminal, you are going to
be sooo strip searched...

It seems like you have a good grasp on the basics, but let me mumble
on a bit here anyway... Don't depend on the negative battery lead as
your RF return... Have a short (relatively speaking) lead from your
grounding plate with a clamp on the end, to clamp to bare metal on the
airframe - a small gauge automobile jumper cable with the clamp, will
work nicely...

How are you going to lead the antenna wire out of the cabin?
It will be RF hot from the connector on the tuner, outwards... I
assume it will be a drag wire off a reel or some such...
Or will there be an ADF wire from fuselage to fin?

In my nefarious past I have been in industrial electronics and I have
been an active ham for nearly 50 years, so always glad to obsfucate
anything you might want to discuss...
You can drop me an email at



cheers ... denny - k8do

[Larry Dighera]

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 01:41:58 -0800, "NW_Pilot"
> wrote in
>:

>Airflow Cooling Tests


Interesting write-up. Thanks.

Personally, I would mount the cooling fan at the bottom of the case
(dependent on how you intend to orient it during use), so that it
pulled outside air into the case. Then I would provide a hot air
exhaust port/register at the top of the case. This arrangement will
take advantage of convection to enhance airflow, and may even work in
the event that the fan becomes inoperative. But you've probably
already considered this.

[Gig 601XL Builder[_2_]]

Denny wrote:
> When the TSA gobs see this at the airline terminal, you are going to
> be sooo strip searched...

NW_ You really need to take some KY with you when you pass that thing
through TSA. It will make the cavity search much more comfortable.

[Larry Dighera]

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:43:54 -0600, Gig 601XL Builder
> wrote in
>:

>Denny wrote:
>> When the TSA gobs see this at the airline terminal, you are going to
>> be sooo strip searched...
>
>NW_ You really need to take some KY with you when you pass that thing
>through TSA. It will make the cavity search much more comfortable.

Perhaps it would be better to establish a contact within the FAA who
can be contacted at check-in time by the airline/TSA to verify
Steven's legitimate right to transport such an "interesting" piece of
"luggage".

[Bertie the Bunyip[_22_]]

Larry Dighera > wrote in
:

> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:43:54 -0600, Gig 601XL Builder
> > wrote in
> >:
>
>>Denny wrote:
>>> When the TSA gobs see this at the airline terminal, you are going to
>>> be sooo strip searched...
>>
>>NW_ You really need to take some KY with you when you pass that thing
>>through TSA. It will make the cavity search much more comfortable.
>
> Perhaps it would be better to establish a contact within the FAA who
> can be contacted at check-in time by the airline/TSA to verify
> Steven's legitimate right to transport such an "interesting" piece of
> "luggage".
>

His right to transport?



Good grief.


Bertie

[Gig 601XL Builder[_2_]]

Larry Dighera wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:43:54 -0600, Gig 601XL Builder
> > wrote in
> >:
>
>> Denny wrote:
>>> When the TSA gobs see this at the airline terminal, you are going to
>>> be sooo strip searched...
>> NW_ You really need to take some KY with you when you pass that thing
>> through TSA. It will make the cavity search much more comfortable.
>
> Perhaps it would be better to establish a contact within the FAA who
> can be contacted at check-in time by the airline/TSA to verify
> Steven's legitimate right to transport such an "interesting" piece of
> "luggage".
>

It would probably be better to go visit the boss of the TSA at the
closest large airport before he needs to travel and see if he could get
a letter or something from him. I don't think the TSA gives much of a
damn what the FAA thinks.

[NW_Pilot]

"Gig 601XL Builder" > wrote in message
...
> Denny wrote:
>> When the TSA gobs see this at the airline terminal, you are going to
>> be sooo strip searched...
>
> NW_ You really need to take some KY with you when you pass that thing
> through TSA. It will make the cavity search much more comfortable.

KY is a gel and not allowed! But I already get looks showing up with a bag
full of electronics and lots of wires and tools.

[NW_Pilot]

"Denny" > wrote in message
...
>
> When the TSA gobs see this at the airline terminal, you are going to
> be sooo strip searched...
>
> It seems like you have a good grasp on the basics, but let me mumble
> on a bit here anyway... Don't depend on the negative battery lead as
> your RF return... Have a short (relatively speaking) lead from your
> grounding plate with a clamp on the end, to clamp to bare metal on the
> airframe - a small gauge automobile jumper cable with the clamp, will
> work nicely...
>
> How are you going to lead the antenna wire out of the cabin?
> It will be RF hot from the connector on the tuner, outwards... I
> assume it will be a drag wire off a reel or some such...
> Or will there be an ADF wire from fuselage to fin?
>
> In my nefarious past I have been in industrial electronics and I have
> been an active ham for nearly 50 years, so always glad to obsfucate
> anything you might want to discuss...
> You can drop me an email at
>
>
>
> cheers ... denny - k8do

Yea, there will be a nice heavy ground from the case to the airframe in
addition to the battery ground.

As for an antenna I belive I posted some photos of mounting on a cessna and
piper.

Here is the cessna 172 Antenna is 3 strands of magnet wire twisted and
inserted in to a yellow heatshrink and 1" red was added about every 2'for
visibility (hurts to walk in to a wire. With my radio set up it will tune
3-5mhz good on as little as 14'

http://www.aircraftdelivery.net/me/HF1ANT.JPG
http://www.aircraftdelivery.net/me/HF2ANT.JPG
http://www.aircraftdelivery.net/me/HF3ANT.JPG
http://www.aircraftdelivery.net/me/HF4ANT.JPG


The lead out is high voltage automotive spark plug wire connected to the
antenna.

[Larry Dighera]

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 13:02:12 -0800, "NW_Pilot"
> wrote in
>:


>Here is the cessna 172 Antenna is 3 strands of magnet wire twisted and
>inserted in to a yellow heatshrink and 1" red was added about every 2'for
>visibility (hurts to walk in to a wire. With my radio set up it will tune
>3-5mhz good on as little as 14'
>
>http://www.aircraftdelivery.net/me/HF1ANT.JPG
>http://www.aircraftdelivery.net/me/HF2ANT.JPG
>http://www.aircraftdelivery.net/me/HF3ANT.JPG
>http://www.aircraftdelivery.net/me/HF4ANT.JPG
>

What method do you use to prevent the trim screws from backing
themselves out? I don't see any safety wire or other obvious means in
the photographs.

>The lead out is high voltage automotive spark plug wire connected to the
>antenna.

Of course, that high-tension lead has a copper conductor in it, not
the noise-suppression type with graphite impregnated cotton cord (or
whatever it is), right?

[NW_Pilot]

"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 13:02:12 -0800, "NW_Pilot"
> > wrote in
> >:
>
>
>>Here is the cessna 172 Antenna is 3 strands of magnet wire twisted and
>>inserted in to a yellow heatshrink and 1" red was added about every 2'for
>>visibility (hurts to walk in to a wire. With my radio set up it will tune
>>3-5mhz good on as little as 14'
>>
>>http://www.aircraftdelivery.net/me/HF1ANT.JPG
>>http://www.aircraftdelivery.net/me/HF2ANT.JPG
>>http://www.aircraftdelivery.net/me/HF3ANT.JPG
>>http://www.aircraftdelivery.net/me/HF4ANT.JPG
>>
>
> What method do you use to prevent the trim screws from backing
> themselves out? I don't see any safety wire or other obvious means in
> the photographs.

This is temporarry install havent herd of them backing out I do use a dab of
locktight

>
>>The lead out is high voltage automotive spark plug wire connected to the
>>antenna.
>
> Of course, that high-tension lead has a copper conductor in it, not
> the noise-suppression type with graphite impregnated cotton cord (or
> whatever it is), right?
>

Yes copper plug wire out the fuselage.

[NW_Pilot]

No time to play today been busy will post more on build in the morning....



"NW_Pilot" > wrote
in message . ..
> Hello, Usenet, Jay, Marry, Montblack, And Friends!!!
>
> Since Comcast is so lame and Lost the HF thread will start my own.
>
> HF-Box build project, Goal is to simplify next flight T182T to Qatar next
> week!!! and return airline flight home with equipment not broken.
>
> Most all you know what I do for a living fun, fun, fun, :-) yep mostly
> Single Engine Piston Aircraft Over Oceans it some times requires an HF
> Radio!
>
> Well I got tired of always fumbling with HF wiring Special Flight Permit
> Allows!! A Power Drop For HF When Tanked!! So I decided to package it all
> in to one small portable airline carry on size case case. I used a Pelican
> case just incase I may be harassed and asked to check it as I have in the
> past (Thanks!! Delta, Virgin, and TSA A-holes)
>
> This Case Will Not Be Water Tight It Requires Drilling Holes!!!! Pelican
> Unconditional Warranty Still Applies Leaving Holes To Min. MADE IN USA
> WITH GREAT WARRANTY!!!
>
> Supply List,
>
> Pelican 1450 Case About $75.00 Shipped (No Foam)
> HF Radio ICOM 706MKIIG 100 Watt $949.00 On Sale Ham Radio Outlet (Remote
> Mount Kit Required It's UsuallyFree + a $50 to $100 Rebate) Look Here
> http://www.icomamerica.com/amateur/hf/index.html#706
> Automatic Antenna Tuner SGC 237 100 Watt (or 239) $359.00
> Astron 24 to 12V Converter 20 Amp 24 Peak About $150.00
> 2 Nice Size Pieces Of Aluminum ($ Varies Mine Was Donated By Horizon Air
> Trash Can! Yea, I Dumpster Diving Again!!)
> A Bunch Of Mics. Items Don't feel like Listing them All Use Your Brain!!!
> (Jacks PL235 1000UF 25V Cap And 10K Resister, 1 or 2 Computer Fans Etc.)
> MCM, Norvac, Etc. ($$ Varies)
> Tools, Tin Snips Left, Right, Straight, Soldering Iron, Solder, Drill And
> Assorted Bits, Rivet's And Rivnuts...Lots of Heat Shrink, Epoxy, Your
> Brain, and Harbor Freight If you have a local one!!! (My Case Friends
> Snap-On Truck & My Own Good Tool Collection)
>
> You will need Soldering Skills, An Adult Beverage I Like Whiskey, Kitchen
> (Aka, Workshop) And AN Understanding Wife!!! For making a Big Mess!!!
>
> This Pelican Case will give you enough Space to Pack The Radio, Long Wire
> Antenna, Tools, And Universal Mounting Hardware Cessna, Piper, Grumman,
> Etc... Single And Multi All Connections Antenna's. Power, Ground And
> Control head will be External Mount Quick Connect.
>
> Photos Will Be Out Of Numerical Order,
> The Case, Pelican 1450 Perfect Size About $70.00 No Foam
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010546.JPG
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010544.JPG
>
> Take You Sheet Of Aluminum Cut it To Fit The Bottom Of the Pelican Case.
> Don't Cut your Fingers....I did not want to use my CNC mill for this to
> much work to clean the Garage to get to the dam thing. Ok, Mount the Radio
> Mount To This!!! I Used 1/8" Pop Rivets...
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010541.JPG
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010542.JPG
>
> Verify Fit In Case, Looks Ok!
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010545.JPG
>
> Remove Frome Case and Mount Radio
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010547.JPG
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010548.JPG
>
> Verify Fit In Case, You want About 1/2 Inch for Cable Clearance On Front
> Remote Mount Cable.
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010549.JPG
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010550.JPG
>
> Time To Mount The Antenna Tuner, Ok I used scotch bright pads with a right
> angel die grinder to remove the paint off the bottom of the SGC-237 (No
> Photo) because if you have not guessed it by now we are using the aluminum
> sheet as a ground for this project. A good ground with a wire antenna is
> key for this set up.
>
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010552.JPG
>
> Verify Fit In Case, Make Another Adult Beverage!!!
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010553.JPG
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010554.JPG
>
> Find A Spot For Cooling Fan Placement, (I Do Have A Guard For The Fan)
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010555.JPG
>
> Remove Lid Re Clock 180 Degrees Add Auto Tune Cap & Resister To the Inside
> Of Tuner At The Terminal Connector.
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010559.JPG
>
> More Inside the SGC237
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010560.JPG
>
> Preview Of Mounting Astron Voltage Converter to lid Of SGC-237 Antenna
> Tuner,
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010557.JPG
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010558.JPG
>
>
> Tomorrow!!! Mounting Voltage Converter, And Selector Switch 14v or 28v
> Systems, Adding External Fuse's, Cutting Top Plate, Adding Antenna And
> Power Connectors, Airflow Cooling Tests, Etc...
>
> You, Want to use Nylon Screws When Mounting the Astron Voltage Converter
> dure to the High Voltage In The Antenna Tuner.
>
> This box is nowhere done I may find problems and Issues along the way and
> correct...will post trial and error. I will try and be strait fwd as
> possible.. All input will be accepted. Used??
>
> BBL!!!
>
> Photo's Of Diesel 182 Coming Soon Trip to Tanzania is Delayed Due to FAA
> B.S. Supplemental Type Cert Update From SMA!!! Oops!!!
>
> OH!! Jay, You Will get To see the Tanzinia Bird, Tanked and all when I
> stop by for a night at my favorite hotel..... What room do I wanna stay in
> this time? Lets See if I can sleep in them all by 2009 hahaha !!
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[NW_Pilot]

"NW_Pilot" > wrote
in message . ..
> Hello, Usenet, Jay, Marry, Montblack, And Friends!!!
>
> Since Comcast is so lame and Lost the HF thread will start my own.
>
> HF-Box build project, Goal is to simplify next flight T182T to Qatar next
> week!!! and return airline flight home with equipment not broken.
>
> Most all you know what I do for a living fun, fun, fun, :-) yep mostly
> Single Engine Piston Aircraft Over Oceans it some times requires an HF
> Radio!
>
> Well I got tired of always fumbling with HF wiring Special Flight Permit
> Allows!! A Power Drop For HF When Tanked!! So I decided to package it all
> in to one small portable airline carry on size case case. I used a Pelican
> case just incase I may be harassed and asked to check it as I have in the
> past (Thanks!! Delta, Virgin, and TSA A-holes)
>
> This Case Will Not Be Water Tight It Requires Drilling Holes!!!! Pelican
> Unconditional Warranty Still Applies Leaving Holes To Min. MADE IN USA
> WITH GREAT WARRANTY!!!
>
> Supply List,
>
> Pelican 1450 Case About $75.00 Shipped (No Foam)
> HF Radio ICOM 706MKIIG 100 Watt $949.00 On Sale Ham Radio Outlet (Remote
> Mount Kit Required It's UsuallyFree + a $50 to $100 Rebate) Look Here
> http://www.icomamerica.com/amateur/hf/index.html#706
> Automatic Antenna Tuner SGC 237 100 Watt (or 239) $359.00
> Astron 24 to 12V Converter 20 Amp 24 Peak About $150.00
> 2 Nice Size Pieces Of Aluminum ($ Varies Mine Was Donated By Horizon Air
> Trash Can! Yea, I Dumpster Diving Again!!)
> A Bunch Of Mics. Items Don't feel like Listing them All Use Your Brain!!!
> (Jacks PL235 1000UF 25V Cap And 10K Resister, 1 or 2 Computer Fans Etc.)
> MCM, Norvac, Etc. ($$ Varies)
> Tools, Tin Snips Left, Right, Straight, Soldering Iron, Solder, Drill And
> Assorted Bits, Rivet's And Rivnuts...Lots of Heat Shrink, Epoxy, Your
> Brain, and Harbor Freight If you have a local one!!! (My Case Friends
> Snap-On Truck & My Own Good Tool Collection)
>
> You will need Soldering Skills, An Adult Beverage I Like Whiskey, Kitchen
> (Aka, Workshop) And AN Understanding Wife!!! For making a Big Mess!!!
>
> This Pelican Case will give you enough Space to Pack The Radio, Long Wire
> Antenna, Tools, And Universal Mounting Hardware Cessna, Piper, Grumman,
> Etc... Single And Multi All Connections Antenna's. Power, Ground And
> Control head will be External Mount Quick Connect.
>
> Photos Will Be Out Of Numerical Order,
> The Case, Pelican 1450 Perfect Size About $70.00 No Foam
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010546.JPG
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010544.JPG
>
> Take You Sheet Of Aluminum Cut it To Fit The Bottom Of the Pelican Case.
> Don't Cut your Fingers....I did not want to use my CNC mill for this to
> much work to clean the Garage to get to the dam thing. Ok, Mount the Radio
> Mount To This!!! I Used 1/8" Pop Rivets...
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010541.JPG
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010542.JPG
>
> Verify Fit In Case, Looks Ok!
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010545.JPG
>
> Remove Frome Case and Mount Radio
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010547.JPG
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010548.JPG
>
> Verify Fit In Case, You want About 1/2 Inch for Cable Clearance On Front
> Remote Mount Cable.
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010549.JPG
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010550.JPG
>
> Time To Mount The Antenna Tuner, Ok I used scotch bright pads with a right
> angel die grinder to remove the paint off the bottom of the SGC-237 (No
> Photo) because if you have not guessed it by now we are using the aluminum
> sheet as a ground for this project. A good ground with a wire antenna is
> key for this set up.
>
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010552.JPG
>
> Verify Fit In Case, Make Another Adult Beverage!!!
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010553.JPG
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010554.JPG
>
> Find A Spot For Cooling Fan Placement, (I Do Have A Guard For The Fan)
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010555.JPG
>
> Remove Lid Re Clock 180 Degrees Add Auto Tune Cap & Resister To the Inside
> Of Tuner At The Terminal Connector.
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010559.JPG
>
> More Inside the SGC237
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010560.JPG
>
> Preview Of Mounting Astron Voltage Converter to lid Of SGC-237 Antenna
> Tuner,
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010557.JPG
> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010558.JPG
>
>

Day-2

Drilling the vent holes for fan.
http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010563.JPG
http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010564.JPG
http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010565.JPG
http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010566.JPG
http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010569.JPG

SGC-237 to 706 Hookup
Manfactures Instructions I did it but put it inside the tunner.
http://www.sgcworld.com/Publications/Downloads/ic706connecting.pdf
Muine Inside The Tunner,
http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010575.JPG
The Molex Connector,
http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010578.JPG
Sireing Hooked Up,
http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010584.JPG
http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010587.JPG
http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010588.JPG

Mounting the Astron to the 237, Use Mylon Screws as they is high Voltage,
http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010581.JPG
http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010582.JPG
http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010583.JPG

Astron Mounted to 237,
http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010590.JPG
http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010591.JPG

706MKIIG Power Line Routing, to Astron
http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010594.JPG
http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010595.JPG
http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010596.JPG

Antenna, Connector, 3 Pin Power Connector, (Will ahve Switch to Select 14V
or 28V System) All protected between hard plastic. plenty of oom to connect
the cables.

http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010600.JPG
Inside, decided to go with a thermaltake fan nice and quiet.
http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010602.JPG
Inside With Radio,
http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010603.JPG
Added And Airframe Ground,
http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010604.JPG

1/2' Foam,
http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010605.JPG

Radio Fitted with Foam Under Aluminum,
http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010607.JPG

Still have some wiring to do for main power and 14 Volt and 24 Volt, Need to
wire an 8pin connector under the power for remote mount control head...
Depending on if the junk store is open or not Monday I should have it done
and ready to test. May have to D sub the Control Head. really want to use a
8pin round connector similar to the power.


BBL...

[Larry Dighera]

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 06:39:21 -0800, "NW_Pilot"
> wrote in
>:

>1/2' Foam

Are you planning on bolting the aluminum base-plate to the Pelican
case, or just letting it float against the foam?

With the fan oriented to exhaust the hot air from the interior of the
case, I can see where two supply-air registers might be cut into the
sides of the case, one on either side near the handle-end. But I have
a feeling you've already considered the cooling issue carefully.

[NW_Pilot]

"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 06:39:21 -0800, "NW_Pilot"
> > wrote in
> >:
>
>>1/2' Foam
>
> Are you planning on bolting the aluminum base-plate to the Pelican
> case, or just letting it float against the foam?
>
> With the fan oriented to exhaust the hot air from the interior of the
> case, I can see where two supply-air registers might be cut into the
> sides of the case, one on either side near the handle-end. But I have
> a feeling you've already considered the cooling issue carefully.
>

Yea, the aluminum plate will be secured to the case Iwant to wait till i
have all required connectors in before drilling any other holes

[Jay Honeck[_2_]]

> OH!! Jay, You Will get To see the Tanzinia Bird, Tanked and all when I
> stop by for a night at my favorite hotel..... What room do I wanna stay in
> this time? Lets See if I can sleep in them all by 2009 hahaha !!

Cool! I'll check the schedule -- we'll see if we can get you in one that
you haven't hit yet....

What day you coming?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Maynard]

On 2008-01-28, Jay Honeck > wrote:
>> OH!! Jay, You Will get To see the Tanzinia Bird, Tanked and all when I
>> stop by for a night at my favorite hotel..... What room do I wanna stay in
>> this time? Lets See if I can sleep in them all by 2009 hahaha !!
> Cool! I'll check the schedule -- we'll see if we can get you in one that
> you haven't hit yet....

It's a real shame that the Amana Colonies Renaissance Faire didn't last more
than one year...or else I'd have an excuse to come and stay there.
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
http://www.hercules-390.org (Yes, that's me!)
Buy Hercules stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/hercules-390

[NW_Pilot]

"Jay Maynard" > wrote in message
. ..
> On 2008-01-28, Jay Honeck > wrote:
>>> OH!! Jay, You Will get To see the Tanzinia Bird, Tanked and all when I
>>> stop by for a night at my favorite hotel..... What room do I wanna stay
>>> in
>>> this time? Lets See if I can sleep in them all by 2009 hahaha !!
>> Cool! I'll check the schedule -- we'll see if we can get you in one that
>> you haven't hit yet....
>
> It's a real shame that the Amana Colonies Renaissance Faire didn't last
> more
> than one year...or else I'd have an excuse to come and stay there.
> --
> Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
> http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
> http://www.hercules-390.org (Yes, that's me!)
> Buy Hercules stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/hercules-390

Renaissance Faire's, Girls in blowsy dresses or skimpy corset gown's with
chainmail, Gypsy Fire Dancing some of them events can be really fun. I have
been to a couple the first one was with a girl I picked up she was hitch
hiking she was a stilt walking human marionette puppeteer - gypsy fire
dancer she was really fun and really enjoyed the "lift" hehehehe.

I still would like to go to the Burrning Man if i ever get the chance...

[NW_Pilot]

NW_Pilot wrote:
> "NW_Pilot" > wrote
> in message . ..
>> Hello, Usenet, Jay, Marry, Montblack, And Friends!!!
>>
>> Since Comcast is so lame and Lost the HF thread will start my own.
>>
>> HF-Box build project, Goal is to simplify next flight T182T to Qatar next
>> week!!! and return airline flight home with equipment not broken.
>>
>> Most all you know what I do for a living fun, fun, fun, :-) yep mostly
>> Single Engine Piston Aircraft Over Oceans it some times requires an HF
>> Radio!
>>
>> Well I got tired of always fumbling with HF wiring Special Flight Permit
>> Allows!! A Power Drop For HF When Tanked!! So I decided to package it all
>> in to one small portable airline carry on size case case. I used a Pelican
>> case just incase I may be harassed and asked to check it as I have in the
>> past (Thanks!! Delta, Virgin, and TSA A-holes)
>>
>> This Case Will Not Be Water Tight It Requires Drilling Holes!!!! Pelican
>> Unconditional Warranty Still Applies Leaving Holes To Min. MADE IN USA
>> WITH GREAT WARRANTY!!!
>>
>> Supply List,
>>
>> Pelican 1450 Case About $75.00 Shipped (No Foam)
>> HF Radio ICOM 706MKIIG 100 Watt $949.00 On Sale Ham Radio Outlet (Remote
>> Mount Kit Required It's Usually Free + a $50 to $100 Rebate) Look Here
>> http://www.icomamerica.com/amateur/hf/index.html#706
>> Automatic Antenna Tuner SGC 237 100 Watt (or 239) $359.00
>> Astron 24 to 12V Converter 20 Amp 24 Peak About $150.00
>> 2 Nice Size Pieces Of Aluminum ($ Varies Mine Was Donated By Horizon Air
>> Trash Can! Yea, I Dumpster Diving Again!!)
>> A Bunch Of Mics. Items Don't feel like Listing them All Use Your Brain!!!
>> (Jacks PL235 1000UF 25V Cap And 10K Resister, 1 or 2 Computer Fans Etc.)
>> MCM, Norvac, Etc. ($$ Varies)
>> Tools, Tin Snips Left, Right, Straight, Soldering Iron, Solder, Drill And
>> Assorted Bits, Rivet's And Rivnuts...Lots of Heat Shrink, Epoxy, Your
>> Brain, and Harbor Freight If you have a local one!!! (My Case Friends
>> Snap-On Truck & My Own Good Tool Collection)
>>
>> You will need Soldering Skills, An Adult Beverage I Like Whiskey, Kitchen
>> (Aka, Workshop) And AN Understanding Wife!!! For making a Big Mess!!!
>>
>> This Pelican Case will give you enough Space to Pack The Radio, Long Wire
>> Antenna, Tools, And Universal Mounting Hardware Cessna, Piper, Grumman,
>> Etc... Single And Multi All Connections Antenna's. Power, Ground And
>> Control head will be External Mount Quick Connect.
>>
>> Photos Will Be Out Of Numerical Order,
>> The Case, Pelican 1450 Perfect Size About $70.00 No Foam
>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010546.JPG
>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010544.JPG
>>
>> Take You Sheet Of Aluminum Cut it To Fit The Bottom Of the Pelican Case.
>> Don't Cut your Fingers....I did not want to use my CNC mill for this to
>> much work to clean the Garage to get to the dam thing. Ok, Mount the Radio
>> Mount To This!!! I Used 1/8" Pop Rivets...
>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010541.JPG
>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010542.JPG
>>
>> Verify Fit In Case, Looks Ok!
>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010545.JPG
>>
>> Remove From Case and Mount Radio
>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010547.JPG
>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010548.JPG
>>
>> Verify Fit In Case, You want About 1/2 Inch for Cable Clearance On Front
>> Remote Mount Cable.
>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010549.JPG
>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010550.JPG
>>
>> Time To Mount The Antenna Tuner, Ok I used scotch bright pads with a right
>> angel die grinder to remove the paint off the bottom of the SGC-237 (No
>> Photo) because if you have not guessed it by now we are using the aluminum
>> sheet as a ground for this project. A good ground with a wire antenna is
>> key for this set up.
>>
>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010552.JPG
>>
>> Verify Fit In Case, Make Another Adult Beverage!!!
>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010553.JPG
>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010554.JPG
>>
>> Find A Spot For Cooling Fan Placement, (I Do Have A Guard For The Fan)
>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010555.JPG
>>
>> Remove Lid Re Clock 180 Degrees Add Auto Tune Cap & Resister To the Inside
>> Of Tuner At The Terminal Connector.
>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010559.JPG
>>
>> More Inside the SGC237
>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010560.JPG
>>
>> Preview Of Mounting Astron Voltage Converter to lid Of SGC-237 Antenna
>> Tuner,
>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010557.JPG
>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010558.JPG
>>
>>
>
> Day-2
>
> Drilling the vent holes for fan.
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010563.JPG
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010564.JPG
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010565.JPG
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010566.JPG
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010569.JPG
>
> SGC-237 to 706 Hookup
> Manufactures Instructions I did it but put it inside the tuner.
> http://www.sgcworld.com/Publications/Downloads/ic706connecting.pdf
> Mine Inside The Tuner,
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010575.JPG
> The Molex Connector,
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010578.JPG
> Wiring Hooked Up,
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010584.JPG
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010587.JPG
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010588.JPG
>
> Mounting the Astron to the 237, Use Nylon Screws as they is high Voltage,
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010581.JPG
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010582.JPG
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010583.JPG
>
> Astron Mounted to 237,
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010590.JPG
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010591.JPG
>
> 706MKIIG Power Line Routing, to Astron
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010594.JPG
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010595.JPG
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010596.JPG
>
> Antenna, Connector, 3 Pin Power Connector, (Will Have Switch to Select 14V
> or 28V System) All protected between hard plastic. plenty of room to connect
> the cables.
>
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010600.JPG
> Inside, decided to go with a thermaltake fan nice and quiet.
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010602.JPG
> Inside With Radio,
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010603.JPG
> Added And Airframe Ground,
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010604.JPG
>
> 1/2' Foam,
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010605.JPG
>
> Radio Fitted with Foam Under Aluminum,
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010607.JPG
>
> Still have some wiring to do for main power and 14 Volt and 24 Volt, Need to
> wire an 8pin connector under the power for remote mount control head...
> Depending on if the junk store is open or not Monday I should have it done
> and ready to test. May have to D sub the Control Head. really want to use a
> 8pin round connector similar to the power.
>
>
> BBL...
>
>

Called norvac and ordered the rest of the parts today... so it's drive 40 miles
round trip traffic and snow or pay $8.00 for shipping should be here tomorrow.

The $50.00 remote separation cable is an 8 conductor cable so I ordered P700 And
T700 microphone connectors,

http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/2399.jpg
&
http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/micplugz.jpg

Possible mount under the handle or below the power cable.


Tasks today is the External fan nod to the radio to help with cooling,

Instructions here, http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=10087

Will finish 98% of the wiring for 28V/14v system,

Wire Tune Locked LED to case

Make a fee ground straps.

Clean up kitchen table, prepare for finial assembly & testing.

Wire roof with coper wire and coax for testing, And why dose it have to
snow/rain every time I get on the roof?

[gwengler]

On Jan 28, 5:07*pm, NW_Pilot
> wrote:
> NW_Pilot wrote:
> > "NW_Pilot" > wrote
> > in messagenews:v_idnYqCWoAcMwTanZ2dnUVZ_tSknZ2d@comca st.com...
> >> Hello, Usenet, Jay, Marry, Montblack, And Friends!!!
>
> >> Since Comcast is so lame and Lost the HF thread will start my own.
>
> >> HF-Box build project, Goal is to simplify next flight T182T to Qatar next
> >> week!!! and return airline flight home with equipment not broken.
>
> >> Most all you know what I do for a living *fun, fun, fun, *:-) yep mostly
> >> Single Engine Piston Aircraft Over Oceans it some times requires an HF
> >> Radio!
>
> >> Well I got tired of always fumbling with HF wiring Special Flight Permit
> >> Allows!! A Power Drop For HF When Tanked!! So I decided to package it all
> >> in to one small portable airline carry on size case case. I used a Pelican
> >> case just incase I may be harassed and asked to check it as I have in the
> >> past (Thanks!! Delta, Virgin, and TSA A-holes)
>
> >> This Case Will Not Be Water Tight It Requires Drilling Holes!!!! Pelican
> >> Unconditional Warranty Still Applies Leaving Holes To Min. MADE IN USA
> >> WITH GREAT WARRANTY!!!
>
> >> Supply List,
>
> >> Pelican 1450 Case About $75.00 Shipped (No Foam)
> >> HF Radio ICOM 706MKIIG 100 Watt $949.00 On Sale Ham Radio Outlet (Remote
> >> Mount Kit Required It's Usually Free + a $50 to $100 Rebate) Look Here
> >>http://www.icomamerica.com/amateur/hf/index.html#706
> >> Automatic Antenna Tuner SGC 237 100 Watt (or 239) $359.00
> >> Astron 24 to 12V Converter 20 Amp 24 Peak About $150.00
> >> 2 Nice Size Pieces Of Aluminum ($ Varies Mine Was Donated By Horizon Air
> >> Trash Can! Yea, I Dumpster Diving Again!!)
> >> A Bunch Of Mics. Items Don't feel like Listing them All Use Your Brain!!!
> >> (Jacks PL235 1000UF 25V Cap And 10K Resister, 1 or 2 Computer Fans Etc.)
> >> MCM, Norvac, Etc. ($$ Varies)
> >> Tools, Tin Snips Left, Right, Straight, Soldering Iron, Solder, Drill And
> >> Assorted Bits, Rivet's And Rivnuts...Lots of Heat Shrink, Epoxy, Your
> >> Brain, and Harbor Freight If you have a local one!!! (My Case Friends
> >> Snap-On Truck & My Own Good Tool Collection)
>
> >> You will need Soldering Skills, An Adult Beverage I Like Whiskey, Kitchen
> >> (Aka, Workshop) And AN Understanding Wife!!! For making a Big Mess!!!
>
> >> This Pelican Case will give you enough Space to Pack The Radio, Long Wire
> >> Antenna, Tools, *And Universal Mounting Hardware Cessna, Piper, Grumman,
> >> Etc... Single And Multi All Connections Antenna's. Power, Ground And
> >> Control head will be External Mount Quick Connect.
>
> >> Photos Will Be Out Of Numerical Order,
> >> The Case, Pelican 1450 Perfect Size About $70.00 No Foam
> >>http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010546.JPG
> >>http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010544.JPG
>
> >> Take You Sheet Of Aluminum Cut it To Fit The Bottom Of the Pelican Case..
> >> Don't Cut your Fingers....I did not want to use my CNC mill for this to
> >> much work to clean the Garage to get to the dam thing. Ok, Mount the Radio
> >> Mount To This!!! I Used 1/8" Pop Rivets...
> >>http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010541.JPG
> >>http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010542.JPG
>
> >> Verify Fit In Case, Looks Ok!
> >>http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010545.JPG
>
> >> Remove From Case and Mount Radio
> >>http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010547.JPG
> >>http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010548.JPG
>
> >> Verify Fit In Case, You want About 1/2 Inch for Cable Clearance On Front
> >> Remote Mount Cable.
> >>http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010549.JPG
> >>http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010550.JPG
>
> >> Time To Mount The Antenna Tuner, Ok I used scotch bright pads with a right
> >> angel die grinder to remove the paint off the bottom of the SGC-237 (No
> >> Photo) because if you have not guessed it by now we are using the aluminum
> >> sheet as a ground for this project. A good ground with a wire antenna is
> >> key for this set up.
>
> >>http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010552.JPG
>
> >> Verify Fit In Case, Make Another Adult Beverage!!!
> >>http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010553.JPG
> >>http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010554.JPG
>
> >> Find A Spot For Cooling Fan Placement, (I Do Have A Guard For The Fan)
> >>http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010555.JPG
>
> >> Remove Lid Re Clock 180 Degrees Add Auto Tune Cap & Resister To the Inside
> >> Of Tuner At The Terminal Connector.
> >>http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010559.JPG
>
> >> More Inside the SGC237
> >>http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010560.JPG
>
> >> Preview Of Mounting Astron Voltage Converter to lid Of SGC-237 Antenna
> >> Tuner,
> >>http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010557.JPG
> >>http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010558.JPG
>
> > Day-2
>
> > Drilling the vent holes for fan.
> >http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010563.JPG
> >http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010564.JPG
> >http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010565.JPG
> >http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010566.JPG
> >http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010569.JPG
>
> > SGC-237 to 706 Hookup
> > Manufactures Instructions I did it but put it inside the tuner.
> >http://www.sgcworld.com/Publications/Downloads/ic706connecting.pdf
> > Mine Inside The Tuner,
> >http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010575.JPG
> > The Molex Connector,
> >http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010578.JPG
> > Wiring Hooked Up,
> >http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010584.JPG
> >http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010587.JPG
> >http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010588.JPG
>
> > Mounting the Astron to the 237, Use Nylon Screws as they is high Voltage,
> >http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010581.JPG
> >http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010582.JPG
> >http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010583.JPG
>
> > Astron Mounted to 237,
> >http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010590.JPG
> >http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010591.JPG
>
> > 706MKIIG Power Line Routing, to Astron
> >http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010594.JPG
> >http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010595.JPG
> >http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010596.JPG
>
> > Antenna, Connector, 3 Pin Power Connector, (Will Have Switch to Select 14V
> > or 28V System) All protected between hard plastic. plenty of room to connect
> > the cables.
>
> >http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010600.JPG
> > Inside, decided to go with a thermaltake fan nice and quiet.
> >http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010602.JPG
> > Inside With Radio,
> >http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010603.JPG
> > Added And Airframe Ground,
> >http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010604.JPG
>
> > 1/2' Foam,
> >http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010605.JPG
>
> > Radio Fitted with Foam Under Aluminum,
> >http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010607.JPG
>
> > Still have some wiring to do for main power and 14 Volt and 24 Volt, Need to
> > wire an 8pin connector under the power for remote mount control head...
> > Depending on if the junk store is open or not Monday I should have it done
> > and ready to test. May have to D sub the Control Head. really want to use a
> > 8pin round connector similar to the power.
>
> > BBL...
>
> Called norvac and ordered the rest of the parts today... so it's drive 40 miles
> round trip traffic and snow or pay $8.00 for shipping should be here tomorrow.
>
> The $50.00 remote separation cable is an 8 conductor cable so I ordered P700 And
> T700 microphone connectors,
>
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/2399.jpg
> &http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/micplugz.jpg
>
> Possible mount under the handle or below the power cable.
>
> Tasks today is the External fan nod to the radio to help with cooling,
>
> Instructions here,http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=10087
>
> Will finish 98% of the wiring for 28V/14v system,
>
> Wire Tune Locked LED to case
>
> Make a fee ground straps.
>
> Clean up kitchen table, prepare for finial assembly & testing.
>
> Wire roof with coper wire and coax for testing, And why dose it have to
> snow/rain every time I get on the roof?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

What do you need the microphone connectors for?

Is there a way to somehow plug the microphone cable/plug of a standard
aviation headset into the transceiver?

Thanks,
Gerd

[Larry Dighera]

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:39:59 -0800 (PST), gwengler
> wrote in
>:

>
>Is there a way to somehow plug the microphone cable/plug of a standard
>aviation headset into the transceiver?

First, please trim the text you are quoting. We've already seen it.

I believe it would require wiring the HF radio into the panel mounted
audio panel. That may not be as easy (or comply with regulations for
non FAA certificated personnel) as using the HF radio independently.
But Steve can answer for himself.

[NW_Pilot]

gwengler wrote:
> On Jan 28, 5:07 pm, NW_Pilot
> > wrote:
>> NW_Pilot wrote:
>>> "NW_Pilot" > wrote
>>> in messagenews:v_idnYqCWoAcMwTanZ2dnUVZ_tSknZ2d@comca st.com...
>>>> Hello, Usenet, Jay, Marry, Montblack, And Friends!!!
>>>> Since Comcast is so lame and Lost the HF thread will start my own.
>>>> HF-Box build project, Goal is to simplify next flight T182T to Qatar next
>>>> week!!! and return airline flight home with equipment not broken.
>>>> Most all you know what I do for a living fun, fun, fun, :-) yep mostly
>>>> Single Engine Piston Aircraft Over Oceans it some times requires an HF
>>>> Radio!
>>>> Well I got tired of always fumbling with HF wiring Special Flight Permit
>>>> Allows!! A Power Drop For HF When Tanked!! So I decided to package it all
>>>> in to one small portable airline carry on size case case. I used a Pelican
>>>> case just incase I may be harassed and asked to check it as I have in the
>>>> past (Thanks!! Delta, Virgin, and TSA A-holes)
>>>> This Case Will Not Be Water Tight It Requires Drilling Holes!!!! Pelican
>>>> Unconditional Warranty Still Applies Leaving Holes To Min. MADE IN USA
>>>> WITH GREAT WARRANTY!!!
>>>> Supply List,
>>>> Pelican 1450 Case About $75.00 Shipped (No Foam)
>>>> HF Radio ICOM 706MKIIG 100 Watt $949.00 On Sale Ham Radio Outlet (Remote
>>>> Mount Kit Required It's Usually Free + a $50 to $100 Rebate) Look Here
>>>> http://www.icomamerica.com/amateur/hf/index.html#706
>>>> Automatic Antenna Tuner SGC 237 100 Watt (or 239) $359.00
>>>> Astron 24 to 12V Converter 20 Amp 24 Peak About $150.00
>>>> 2 Nice Size Pieces Of Aluminum ($ Varies Mine Was Donated By Horizon Air
>>>> Trash Can! Yea, I Dumpster Diving Again!!)
>>>> A Bunch Of Mics. Items Don't feel like Listing them All Use Your Brain!!!
>>>> (Jacks PL235 1000UF 25V Cap And 10K Resister, 1 or 2 Computer Fans Etc.)
>>>> MCM, Norvac, Etc. ($$ Varies)
>>>> Tools, Tin Snips Left, Right, Straight, Soldering Iron, Solder, Drill And
>>>> Assorted Bits, Rivet's And Rivnuts...Lots of Heat Shrink, Epoxy, Your
>>>> Brain, and Harbor Freight If you have a local one!!! (My Case Friends
>>>> Snap-On Truck & My Own Good Tool Collection)
>>>> You will need Soldering Skills, An Adult Beverage I Like Whiskey, Kitchen
>>>> (Aka, Workshop) And AN Understanding Wife!!! For making a Big Mess!!!
>>>> This Pelican Case will give you enough Space to Pack The Radio, Long Wire
>>>> Antenna, Tools, And Universal Mounting Hardware Cessna, Piper, Grumman,
>>>> Etc... Single And Multi All Connections Antenna's. Power, Ground And
>>>> Control head will be External Mount Quick Connect.
>>>> Photos Will Be Out Of Numerical Order,
>>>> The Case, Pelican 1450 Perfect Size About $70.00 No Foam
>>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010546.JPG
>>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010544.JPG
>>>> Take You Sheet Of Aluminum Cut it To Fit The Bottom Of the Pelican Case.
>>>> Don't Cut your Fingers....I did not want to use my CNC mill for this to
>>>> much work to clean the Garage to get to the dam thing. Ok, Mount the Radio
>>>> Mount To This!!! I Used 1/8" Pop Rivets...
>>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010541.JPG
>>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010542.JPG
>>>> Verify Fit In Case, Looks Ok!
>>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010545.JPG
>>>> Remove From Case and Mount Radio
>>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010547.JPG
>>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010548.JPG
>>>> Verify Fit In Case, You want About 1/2 Inch for Cable Clearance On Front
>>>> Remote Mount Cable.
>>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010549.JPG
>>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010550.JPG
>>>> Time To Mount The Antenna Tuner, Ok I used scotch bright pads with a right
>>>> angel die grinder to remove the paint off the bottom of the SGC-237 (No
>>>> Photo) because if you have not guessed it by now we are using the aluminum
>>>> sheet as a ground for this project. A good ground with a wire antenna is
>>>> key for this set up.
>>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010552.JPG
>>>> Verify Fit In Case, Make Another Adult Beverage!!!
>>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010553.JPG
>>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010554.JPG
>>>> Find A Spot For Cooling Fan Placement, (I Do Have A Guard For The Fan)
>>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010555.JPG
>>>> Remove Lid Re Clock 180 Degrees Add Auto Tune Cap & Resister To the Inside
>>>> Of Tuner At The Terminal Connector.
>>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010559.JPG
>>>> More Inside the SGC237
>>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010560.JPG
>>>> Preview Of Mounting Astron Voltage Converter to lid Of SGC-237 Antenna
>>>> Tuner,
>>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010557.JPG
>>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010558.JPG
>>> Day-2
>>> Drilling the vent holes for fan.
>>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010563.JPG
>>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010564.JPG
>>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010565.JPG
>>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010566.JPG
>>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010569.JPG
>>> SGC-237 to 706 Hookup
>>> Manufactures Instructions I did it but put it inside the tuner.
>>> http://www.sgcworld.com/Publications/Downloads/ic706connecting.pdf
>>> Mine Inside The Tuner,
>>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010575.JPG
>>> The Molex Connector,
>>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010578.JPG
>>> Wiring Hooked Up,
>>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010584.JPG
>>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010587.JPG
>>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010588.JPG
>>> Mounting the Astron to the 237, Use Nylon Screws as they is high Voltage,
>>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010581.JPG
>>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010582.JPG
>>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010583.JPG
>>> Astron Mounted to 237,
>>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010590.JPG
>>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010591.JPG
>>> 706MKIIG Power Line Routing, to Astron
>>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010594.JPG
>>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010595.JPG
>>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010596.JPG
>>> Antenna, Connector, 3 Pin Power Connector, (Will Have Switch to Select 14V
>>> or 28V System) All protected between hard plastic. plenty of room to connect
>>> the cables.
>>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010600.JPG
>>> Inside, decided to go with a thermaltake fan nice and quiet.
>>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010602.JPG
>>> Inside With Radio,
>>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010603.JPG
>>> Added And Airframe Ground,
>>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010604.JPG
>>> 1/2' Foam,
>>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010605.JPG
>>> Radio Fitted with Foam Under Aluminum,
>>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010607.JPG
>>> Still have some wiring to do for main power and 14 Volt and 24 Volt, Need to
>>> wire an 8pin connector under the power for remote mount control head...
>>> Depending on if the junk store is open or not Monday I should have it done
>>> and ready to test. May have to D sub the Control Head. really want to use a
>>> 8pin round connector similar to the power.
>>> BBL...
>> Called norvac and ordered the rest of the parts today... so it's drive 40 miles
>> round trip traffic and snow or pay $8.00 for shipping should be here tomorrow.
>>
>> The $50.00 remote separation cable is an 8 conductor cable so I ordered P700 And
>> T700 microphone connectors,
>>
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/2399.jpg
>> &http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/micplugz.jpg
>>
>> Possible mount under the handle or below the power cable.
>>
>> Tasks today is the External fan nod to the radio to help with cooling,
>>
>> Instructions here,http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=10087
>>
>> Will finish 98% of the wiring for 28V/14v system,
>>
>> Wire Tune Locked LED to case
>>
>> Make a fee ground straps.
>>
>> Clean up kitchen table, prepare for finial assembly & testing.
>>
>> Wire roof with coper wire and coax for testing, And why dose it have to
>> snow/rain every time I get on the roof?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> What do you need the microphone connectors for?
>
> Is there a way to somehow plug the microphone cable/plug of a standard
> aviation headset into the transceiver?
>
> Thanks,
> Gerd


Microphone connectors are for the separation cable for the control head.

I already have built an adapter to use a standard aviation headset that plugs in
to the control head.

[gwengler]

> I believe it would require wiring the HF radio into the panel mounted
> audio panel. *That may not be as easy (or comply with regulations for
> non FAA certificated personnel) as using the HF radio independently.
> But Steve can answer for himself.

My question was how to connect the microphone cable/plug of a
standard
aviation headset into the transceiver - directly. I did not ask how
to connect an HF radio to the audio panel. BTW I believe for the HF
radio's audio OUTPUT it can be done easily, my airplane has an "audio
in" connection in the panel, and I believe you can connect the HF
radio through that just as you would an CD player or MP3 player.

Gerd

[gwengler]

> I already have built an adapter to use a standard aviation headset that plugs in
> to the control head.

Aha! Any way I could get my hands on such an adapter? Or some help
on how to put it together?
Gerd

[NW_Pilot]

gwengler wrote:
>> I already have built an adapter to use a standard aviation headset that plugs in
>> to the control head.
>
> Aha! Any way I could get my hands on such an adapter? Or some help
> on how to put it together?
> Gerd


Well, your radio should have a manual with pin outs of the microphone!! That
would be a good place to start most modern headsets can be wired one to one to
the radio..

See Photos,

http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/other/S4010609.JPG
http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/other/S4010615.JPG

[gwengler]

I just bought an Icom IC-706MKII but have not used it yet. Did you
build the little black box from your photos yourself?
Thanks very much for your help,
Gerd

[Larry Dighera]

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:06:35 -0800 (PST), gwengler
> wrote in
>:

>My question was how to connect the microphone cable/plug of a
>standard aviation headset into the transceiver - directly.

Because the headset plugs are used with the radios installed in the
aircraft, disconnecting it from the airplane may not be such a good
idea, IMO. I realize, that mid-Atlantic the pilot may not be
communicating via the radios installed in the aircraft, but in the
event s/he may want to contact/monitor other traffic in the vicinity
(airliners, etc) he would have to disconnect from the HF set in the
scenario you suggest.

Further, I doubt the headset microphone would be directly compatible
with the Icom HF transceiver; likely it would require some matching
electronics in between the mic and Icom.

[Larry Dighera]

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:26:13 -0800, NW_Pilot
> wrote in
>:

>most modern headsets can be wired one to one to the radio..

I was under the impression that aviation headset microphones were made
to electrically look like a carbon mic, and that most ham
communications gear used dynamic mics. Do you have information that
refutes this notion?

[NW_Pilot]

gwengler wrote:
> I just bought an Icom IC-706MKII but have not used it yet. Did you
> build the little black box from your photos yourself?
> Thanks very much for your help,
> Gerd

Hello, Yes I built that myself..

[NW_Pilot]

NW_Pilot wrote:
> NW_Pilot wrote:
>> "NW_Pilot" >
>> wrote in message . ..
>>> Hello, Usenet, Jay, Marry, Montblack, And Friends!!!
>>>
>>> Since Comcast is so lame and Lost the HF thread will start my own.
>>>
>>> HF-Box build project, Goal is to simplify next flight T182T to Qatar
>>> next week!!! and return airline flight home with equipment not broken.
>>>
>>> Most all you know what I do for a living fun, fun, fun, :-) yep
>>> mostly Single Engine Piston Aircraft Over Oceans it some times
>>> requires an HF Radio!
>>>
>>> Well I got tired of always fumbling with HF wiring Special Flight
>>> Permit Allows!! A Power Drop For HF When Tanked!! So I decided to
>>> package it all in to one small portable airline carry on size case
>>> case. I used a Pelican case just incase I may be harassed and asked
>>> to check it as I have in the past (Thanks!! Delta, Virgin, and TSA
>>> A-holes)
>>>
>>> This Case Will Not Be Water Tight It Requires Drilling Holes!!!!
>>> Pelican Unconditional Warranty Still Applies Leaving Holes To Min.
>>> MADE IN USA WITH GREAT WARRANTY!!!
>>>
>>> Supply List,
>>>
>>> Pelican 1450 Case About $75.00 Shipped (No Foam)
>>> HF Radio ICOM 706MKIIG 100 Watt $949.00 On Sale Ham Radio Outlet
>>> (Remote Mount Kit Required It's Usually Free + a $50 to $100 Rebate)
>>> Look Here http://www.icomamerica.com/amateur/hf/index.html#706
>>> Automatic Antenna Tuner SGC 237 100 Watt (or 239) $359.00
>>> Astron 24 to 12V Converter 20 Amp 24 Peak About $150.00
>>> 2 Nice Size Pieces Of Aluminum ($ Varies Mine Was Donated By Horizon
>>> Air Trash Can! Yea, I Dumpster Diving Again!!)
>>> A Bunch Of Mics. Items Don't feel like Listing them All Use Your
>>> Brain!!! (Jacks PL235 1000UF 25V Cap And 10K Resister, 1 or 2
>>> Computer Fans Etc.) MCM, Norvac, Etc. ($$ Varies)
>>> Tools, Tin Snips Left, Right, Straight, Soldering Iron, Solder, Drill
>>> And Assorted Bits, Rivet's And Rivnuts...Lots of Heat Shrink, Epoxy,
>>> Your Brain, and Harbor Freight If you have a local one!!! (My Case
>>> Friends Snap-On Truck & My Own Good Tool Collection)
>>>
>>> You will need Soldering Skills, An Adult Beverage I Like Whiskey,
>>> Kitchen (Aka, Workshop) And AN Understanding Wife!!! For making a Big
>>> Mess!!!
>>>
>>> This Pelican Case will give you enough Space to Pack The Radio, Long
>>> Wire Antenna, Tools, And Universal Mounting Hardware Cessna, Piper,
>>> Grumman, Etc... Single And Multi All Connections Antenna's. Power,
>>> Ground And Control head will be External Mount Quick Connect.
>>>
>>> Photos Will Be Out Of Numerical Order,
>>> The Case, Pelican 1450 Perfect Size About $70.00 No Foam
>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010546.JPG
>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010544.JPG
>>>
>>> Take You Sheet Of Aluminum Cut it To Fit The Bottom Of the Pelican
>>> Case. Don't Cut your Fingers....I did not want to use my CNC mill for
>>> this to much work to clean the Garage to get to the dam thing. Ok,
>>> Mount the Radio Mount To This!!! I Used 1/8" Pop Rivets...
>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010541.JPG
>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010542.JPG
>>>
>>> Verify Fit In Case, Looks Ok!
>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010545.JPG
>>>
>>> Remove From Case and Mount Radio
>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010547.JPG
>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010548.JPG
>>>
>>> Verify Fit In Case, You want About 1/2 Inch for Cable Clearance On
>>> Front Remote Mount Cable.
>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010549.JPG
>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010550.JPG
>>>
>>> Time To Mount The Antenna Tuner, Ok I used scotch bright pads with a
>>> right angel die grinder to remove the paint off the bottom of the
>>> SGC-237 (No Photo) because if you have not guessed it by now we are
>>> using the aluminum sheet as a ground for this project. A good ground
>>> with a wire antenna is key for this set up.
>>>
>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010552.JPG
>>>
>>> Verify Fit In Case, Make Another Adult Beverage!!!
>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010553.JPG
>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010554.JPG
>>>
>>> Find A Spot For Cooling Fan Placement, (I Do Have A Guard For The Fan)
>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010555.JPG
>>>
>>> Remove Lid Re Clock 180 Degrees Add Auto Tune Cap & Resister To the
>>> Inside Of Tuner At The Terminal Connector.
>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010559.JPG
>>>
>>> More Inside the SGC237
>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010560.JPG
>>>
>>> Preview Of Mounting Astron Voltage Converter to lid Of SGC-237
>>> Antenna Tuner,
>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010557.JPG
>>> http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010558.JPG
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Day-2
>>
>> Drilling the vent holes for fan.
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010563.JPG
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010564.JPG
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010565.JPG
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010566.JPG
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010569.JPG
>>
>> SGC-237 to 706 Hookup
>> Manufactures Instructions I did it but put it inside the tuner.
>> http://www.sgcworld.com/Publications/Downloads/ic706connecting.pdf
>> Mine Inside The Tuner,
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010575.JPG
>> The Molex Connector,
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010578.JPG
>> Wiring Hooked Up,
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010584.JPG
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010587.JPG
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010588.JPG
>>
>> Mounting the Astron to the 237, Use Nylon Screws as they is high Voltage,
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010581.JPG
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010582.JPG
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010583.JPG
>>
>> Astron Mounted to 237,
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010590.JPG
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010591.JPG
>>
>> 706MKIIG Power Line Routing, to Astron
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010594.JPG
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010595.JPG
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010596.JPG
>>
>> Antenna, Connector, 3 Pin Power Connector, (Will Have Switch to Select
>> 14V or 28V System) All protected between hard plastic. plenty of room
>> to connect the cables.
>>
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010600.JPG
>> Inside, decided to go with a thermaltake fan nice and quiet.
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010602.JPG
>> Inside With Radio,
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010603.JPG
>> Added And Airframe Ground,
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010604.JPG
>>
>> 1/2' Foam,
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010605.JPG
>>
>> Radio Fitted with Foam Under Aluminum,
>> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/Day-2/S4010607.JPG
>>
>> Still have some wiring to do for main power and 14 Volt and 24 Volt,
>> Need to wire an 8pin connector under the power for remote mount
>> control head... Depending on if the junk store is open or not Monday I
>> should have it done and ready to test. May have to D sub the Control
>> Head. really want to use a 8pin round connector similar to the power.
>>
>>
>> BBL...
>>
>>
>
> Called norvac and ordered the rest of the parts today... so it's drive
> 40 miles round trip traffic and snow or pay $8.00 for shipping should be
> here tomorrow.
>
> The $50.00 remote separation cable is an 8 conductor cable so I ordered
> P700 And T700 microphone connectors,
>
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/2399.jpg
> &
> http://internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/micplugz.jpg
>
> Possible mount under the handle or below the power cable.
>
>
> Tasks today is the External fan nod to the radio to help with cooling,
>
> Instructions here, http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=10087
>
> Will finish 98% of the wiring for 28V/14v system,
>
> Wire Tune Locked LED to case
>
> Make a fee ground straps.
>
> Clean up kitchen table, prepare for finial assembly & testing.
>
> Wire roof with coper wire and coax for testing, And why dose it have to
> snow/rain every time I get on the roof?
>


Still waiting on Parts here is the Cooling Fan Mod,

http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010616.JPG
http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010617.JPG
http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX/S4010618.JPG

[NW_Pilot]

Larry Dighera wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:26:13 -0800, NW_Pilot
> > wrote in
> >:
>
>> most modern headsets can be wired one to one to the radio..
>
> I was under the impression that aviation headset microphones were made
> to electrically look like a carbon mic, and that most ham
> communications gear used dynamic mics. Do you have information that
> refutes this notion?
>


Nope, I know it works great with the LightSpeed and David Clark Mic. Set Mic
Gain to 1 on the radio or will sound like crap.

[NW_Pilot]

OK, I am in the testing Faze!!!!


I will tell you I am really upset at Icom at this point!!! I Split the
separation cable to find out that all the wires are coated with epoxy even under
the shielding like stranded magnet wire....

Ok, 3 hours later i was able to solder an 8 pin connector to one side, About an
hour later I gave it a go on the other side it took about 2 hours very very
tinny wires. Icom just killed any repeat or future business I had with them. All
and all it worked but took way longer then expected but all connection are
mounted some finial routing of wires and she should be done.

At nearly $50.00 a cable an average hobbyist would not be able to fix the cable
if it got cut somehow.

The bolts that will hold the aluminum chassis in to the case will also be rubber
feet.


Sorry no photos tonight.... Will Post when I can need some sleep eyes are not as
good as they were few years ago and the tips of my fingers are no longer used to
the hi-temps of the soldering iron.

Icom BAAAAD BAAAD BAAAD!!! you deserve the Chinese or Koreans to make clones of
your cables!!!! maybe now your radios!!!

[NW_Pilot]

Ok, the guy with the bouncing e-mail the model of Astron is N2412-24 I tried
another model that peek's @ 20amps it would not run the 706MKIIG above power
level 5. Spend the money and get the model I have listed. There may be others
but Astron is a good quality unit.

Model N2412-24
Input Voltage 22-32 VDC
Output Voltage 13.8 VDC
Line/Load Regulation .04 VDC
Ripple 20mVrms
Continuous Current 20 Amps
Peak Current 24 Amps
Overvoltage Protection16 VDC
Efficiency 88%
Dimensions 2" x 6.2" x 7"
Weight 2 Lbs


Here is the factory Image
http://www.astroncorp.com/images/N2412-24gif.gif

Astron Site,
http://www.astroncorp.com/dcdc.shtml

[Jay Maynard]

On 2008-01-30, NW_Pilot > wrote:
> I will tell you I am really upset at Icom at this point!!! I Split the
> separation cable to find out that all the wires are coated with epoxy even under
> the shielding like stranded magnet wire....
>
> Ok, 3 hours later i was able to solder an 8 pin connector to one side, About an
> hour later I gave it a go on the other side it took about 2 hours very very
> tinny wires. Icom just killed any repeat or future business I had with them. All
> and all it worked but took way longer then expected but all connection are
> mounted some finial routing of wires and she should be done.

Hm. Have you looked at the FT857? Its extension cables use standard,
crimped-on modular connections, 4 pins for the control head and 8 for the
mike.
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[NW_Pilot]

It's powerup and test were ok, doing finial assembly will take photos tomorrow.

Decided to not wire it for 14V as of now need to work a few issues out with
switching.

[NW_Pilot]

Here Are The Completed Photos,

Inside Wired With Pad. I Ended up drilling a number of holes under the side edge
lip for Air and under the front I routed it out behind the name plate lots of
air. Fan was Wired to Radio Out 12V so when radio is on fan is on fused with a
..5 amp fuse inline. Temperature while in Use is acceptable Levels High Volume
Computer Fan

http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX//HF_KIT/S4010621.JPG

Connector Side Of Unit,

http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX//HF_KIT/S4010622.JPG
http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX//HF_KIT/S4010623.JPG

Left to Right,

Ground.

2 Connector Left Of Fan
Bottom is Power 3 Pin, 14V, 24V, & Ground (Eliminated Need For Switch And Slaved
Ground to System Ground)
Top Is Remote Head Mount 8 Pins,

Fan

Right Of Fan

Top Is Antenna,
Bottom Is Tuner Locked LED

Inside,

Antenna, Tools, Cables, And Connectors. (Pill Bottle is For Small Parts)
http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX//HF_KIT/S4010624.JPG
http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX//HF_KIT/S4010625.JPG

Radio Control Head is Mounted In Foam, 1/2" Sides 1" Back 4" Front

All items except tool kit are held in with 3M wire wrap like double sided Velcro
hot and glued in place..

Inside Full Padding, HF Has Velcro on the Top To Mount Mic.

http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX//HF_KIT/S4010627.JPG


Complete Unit,
http://www.internationalferryflights.com/HF_BOX//HF_KIT/S4010629.JPG

When Closed this unit should withstand shipping as is and airport baggage
handlers if checked.

Now its simple to hookup, and repack should be a 5 min install on a single
engine Cessna!!!

The End!!! Yea, Right It's a HAM!!!