5 dead after crash at "fly-in" community runway

[john]

http://www.mysuncoast.com/Global/story.asp?S=7778243&nav=menu577_2_1

No mention of the NTSB report. My suspicion is that the "pilot"
failed to gain sufficient airspeed to maintain flight. :-)

[D Ramapriya]

On Jan 27, 6:11 pm, john > wrote:
> http://www.mysuncoast.com/Global/story.asp?S=7778243&nav=menu577_2_1
>
> No mention of the NTSB report. My suspicion is that the "pilot"
> failed to gain sufficient airspeed to maintain flight. :-)


Sorry John but pointing to a story of the loss of the lives of five
young souls with what's essentially a flippant remark isn't comme il
faut.

Ramapriya

[Matt Whiting]

D Ramapriya wrote:
> On Jan 27, 6:11 pm, john > wrote:
>> http://www.mysuncoast.com/Global/story.asp?S=7778243&nav=menu577_2_1
>>
>> No mention of the NTSB report. My suspicion is that the "pilot"
>> failed to gain sufficient airspeed to maintain flight. :-)
>
>
> Sorry John but pointing to a story of the loss of the lives of five
> young souls with what's essentially a flippant remark isn't comme il
> faut.

True, but the story had no business being posted here in the first place.

[Spam]

john wrote:
> http://www.mysuncoast.com/Global/story.asp?S=7778243&nav=menu577_2_1
>
> No mention of the NTSB report. My suspicion is that the "pilot"
> failed to gain sufficient airspeed to maintain flight. :-)


Yea, just some kids drag racing on an airport now imagine if they were on the
street!!!!

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5 dead after crash at "fly-in" community runway

Associated Press - January 26, 2008 6:24 PM ET

OCALA, Fla. (AP) - Florida Highway Patrol says five young men are dead today
after a car they were riding in crashed after traveling off an airport runway.

The runway is at the exclusive "fly-in" community of Jumbolair Aviation Estates.

The crash at the community, which is also the home of actor John Travolta,
happened at about 3:45 a.m.

According to a preliminary FHP investigation, a 2008 gray BMW with 5 occupants,
ages 18 to 20, was traveling at a high rate of speed on the airstrip.

The victims have been identified as 18-year-old Joshua D. Ammirato of Fairfield;
19-year-old Dustin J. Dawe also of Fairfield; 19-year-old James Devon Hime of
Anthony; and 19-year-old Jacob James Casey and 20-year-old Isaac Rubin, both of
Ocala.

4 of them were former students at North Marion High School. Casey graduated from
Trinity Catholic High School. He went on to play football for Jacksonville
University.

Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not
be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

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On Jan 28, 7:09*am, James Robinson > wrote:
> Spam >
> wrote:
>
> > Yea, just some kids drag racing on an airport now imagine if they were
> > on the street!!!!
>
> That wasn't just any old drag race. *They were driving daddy's brand new
> BMW M5, purchased just 2 months ago. *That car has a 507 HP V-10 engine
> coupled to a 7 speed transmission. *Base price just under $85,000.
>
> The driver, who was 18, had been on a discussion forum that evening
> asking about disconnecting the car's stability control to increase
> performance, and complaining that when the transmission was upshifted at
> 140 mph, it didn't seem to be very crisp:
>
> http://www.ocala.com/article/20080128/NEWS/801280335/1001/NEWS01
>
> Obviously, he had been driving that fast before, likely on public
> highways.
>
> One report suggested that they had topped 160 mph on the runway before
> the accident.
>
> The description of the accident says there were skid marks just before
> the end of the runway, where it appeared the car skewed, and that the car
> went airborne as it left the end of the runway, eventually colliding with
> an oak tree 200 feet beyond the runway. *The end of the runway is 85 feet
> above the surrounding ground, and the car was reported to have hit the
> oak tree 15 feet above the ground. *A quick calculation says that they
> were traveling about 75 mph as they ran off the end of the runway.
>
> Early news reports included a comment that they weren't sure if the
> occupants were wearing their seatbelts. *Anyone looking at what little
> remained of the car wouldn't have bothered asking that question. *They
> must have a cookie-cutter formula for reporting on highway accidents that
> includes that question. *Just like they ask if aircraft flying VFR filed
> a flight plan when reporting on aircraft accidents.
>
> Obviously, there would be a tremendous sense of grief for the five
> families that lost their loved ones in this accident. *While the accident
> was likely caused by youthful overexuberance, perhaps there are some
> lessons that can be pondered by pilots:
>
> - Think twice before doing anything that starts with any phrase similar
> to: "Watch this!"
>
> - Don't expect your aircraft to handle the same with five large people in
> it as it would when you are flying alone. (The occupants of the car were
> all on high school wrestling teams, suggesting they were perhaps heavier
> than average. *With 800 additional pounds, braking distances from high
> speed would have been significantly extended.)
>
> - Be conservative, and don't try risky maneuvers with low hours on any
> new aircraft.
>
> - Before trying any high performance tricks, first get appropriate
> training, and only do them in areas that are appropriate.

- Make sure you actually have wings attached before attempting to take
off.

- Start braking BEFORE you reach the point of no return on the runway.