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partho
January 30th 08, 08:34 AM
hi,
I need some information about the take off & landing of a passanger
plane.is there any particular distance upto which a plane has to
travell before moving towards direction of its destination. Or before
landing do these planes come to a certain distance from where they
heads towards runway.how they manage this air traffic.

Regards,

Partho.

Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
January 30th 08, 02:19 PM
partho > wrote in news:bbf117a3-7440-4812-80e4-
:

> hi,
> I need some information about the take off & landing of a passanger
> plane.is there any particular distance upto which a plane has to
> travell before moving towards direction of its destination. Or before
> landing do these planes come to a certain distance from where they
> heads towards runway.how they manage this air traffic.
>

You can turn immediatly if you want, but usually there is a departure route
to ensure a smooth flow of traffic around the airport and also for noise
abatement purposes.
They are usually routed over industrial and/or low income areas.


Bertie

Jay Honeck[_2_]
January 31st 08, 12:31 AM
> I need some information about the take off & landing of a passanger
> plane.is there any particular distance upto which a plane has to
> travell before moving towards direction of its destination. Or before
> landing do these planes come to a certain distance from where they
> heads towards runway.how they manage this air traffic.

Before we can attempt to answer your "question", I would respectfully
suggest that you work on your English language skills -- or have someone
help you type this, and try again. I personally can't make hide nor hair
out of what you're trying to ask...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
"partho" > wrote in message
...
> hi,
> I need some information about the take off & landing of a passanger
> plane.is there any particular distance upto which a plane has to
> travell before moving towards direction of its destination. Or before
> landing do these planes come to a certain distance from where they
> heads towards runway.how they manage this air traffic.
>
> Regards,
>
> Partho.

Rich Ahrens[_2_]
January 31st 08, 01:05 AM
Jay Honeck wrote:
>> I need some information about the take off & landing of a passanger
>> plane.is there any particular distance upto which a plane has to
>> travell before moving towards direction of its destination. Or before
>> landing do these planes come to a certain distance from where they
>> heads towards runway.how they manage this air traffic.
>
> Before we can attempt to answer your "question", I would respectfully
> suggest that you work on your English language skills -- or have someone
> help you type this, and try again. I personally can't make hide nor
> hair out of what you're trying to ask...

I would disrespectfully suggest you work on yours as the meaning is
quite clear. And his English is undoubtedly better than your Tamil.

Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
January 31st 08, 01:12 AM
"Jay Honeck" > wrote in
news:iF8oj.8806$9j6.6754@attbi_s22:

>> I need some information about the take off & landing of a passanger
>> plane.is there any particular distance upto which a plane has to
>> travell before moving towards direction of its destination. Or before
>> landing do these planes come to a certain distance from where they
>> heads towards runway.how they manage this air traffic.
>
> Before we can attempt to answer your "question", I would respectfully
> suggest that you work on your English language skills -- or have
> someone help you type this, and try again. I personally can't make
> hide nor hair out of what you're trying to ask...

Real civil there fjukkwit.

I understood him perfectly.


Bertie

Ricky
January 31st 08, 01:40 AM
On Jan 30, 7:12*pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote innews:iF8oj.8806$9j6.6754@attbi_s22:
>
> >> I need some information about the take off & landing of a passanger
> >> plane.is there any particular distance upto which a plane has to
> >> travell before moving towards direction of its destination. Or before
> >> landing do these planes come to a certain distance from where they
> >> heads towards runway.how they manage this air traffic.
>
> > Before we can attempt to answer your "question", I would respectfully
> > suggest that you work on your English language skills -- or have
> > someone help you type this, and try again. *I personally can't make
> > hide nor hair out of what you're trying to ask...
>
> Real civil there fjukkwit.
>
> I understood him perfectly.
>
> Bertie

Bertie, I sort of understood the OP's query, even better after reading
your reply but Jay's request was perfectly reasonable, as well. On my
first reading I didn't really get it, either. I had to re-read it and
then your reply helped.
He was also being "civil," not unkind, in my opinion.

Ricky

Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
January 31st 08, 01:44 AM
Ricky > wrote in
:

> On Jan 30, 7:12*pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote
>> innews:iF8oj.8806$9j6.6754@a
> ttbi_s22:
>>
>> >> I need some information about the take off & landing of a
>> >> passanger plane.is there any particular distance upto which a
>> >> plane has to travell before moving towards direction of its
>> >> destination. Or before landing do these planes come to a certain
>> >> distance from where they heads towards runway.how they manage this
>> >> air traffic.
>>
>> > Before we can attempt to answer your "question", I would
>> > respectfully suggest that you work on your English language skills
>> > -- or have someone help you type this, and try again. *I personally
>> > can't make hide nor hair out of what you're trying to ask...
>>
>> Real civil there fjukkwit.
>>
>> I understood him perfectly.
>>
>> Bertie
>
> Bertie, I sort of understood the OP's query, even better after reading
> your reply but Jay's request was perfectly reasonable, as well


.. On my
> first reading I didn't really get it, either. I had to re-read it and
> then your reply helped.
> He was also being "civil," not unkind, in my opinion.

He was being a ****heel IMO.

Ayt best he;s a hypocrite


Bertie>

Larry Dighera
January 31st 08, 02:04 AM
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:34:45 -0800 (PST), partho
> wrote in
>:

>hi,
>I need some information about the take off & landing of a passanger
>plane.is there any particular distance upto which a plane has to
>travell before moving towards direction of its destination. Or before
>landing do these planes come to a certain distance from where they
>heads towards runway.how they manage this air traffic.
>
>Regards,
>
>Partho.

You'll find some examples of Arrival, Approach, and Departure
procedures here:

http://www.airnav.com/airport/KSNA
STARs - Standard Terminal Arrivals
KAYOH FOUR download (294KB)
TANDY THREE download (217KB)

IAPs - Instrument Approach Procedures
ILS RWY 19R download (450KB)
RNAV (GPS) RWY 01L download (241KB)
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LOC BC RWY 01L download (304KB)
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NDB RWY 19R download (333KB)
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Departure Procedures
ANAHEIM THREE download (412KB)
CHANNEL ONE download (343KB)
MUSEL SIX download (335KB)
NOTE: Special Take-Off Minimums apply download (42KB)

Matt Whiting
January 31st 08, 09:26 PM
Rich Ahrens wrote:
> Jay Honeck wrote:
>>> I need some information about the take off & landing of a passanger
>>> plane.is there any particular distance upto which a plane has to
>>> travell before moving towards direction of its destination. Or before
>>> landing do these planes come to a certain distance from where they
>>> heads towards runway.how they manage this air traffic.
>>
>> Before we can attempt to answer your "question", I would respectfully
>> suggest that you work on your English language skills -- or have
>> someone help you type this, and try again. I personally can't make
>> hide nor hair out of what you're trying to ask...
>
> I would disrespectfully suggest you work on yours as the meaning is
> quite clear. And his English is undoubtedly better than your Tamil.

Why then didn't you answer his question(s) if they were quite clear to you?

Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
January 31st 08, 09:38 PM
Matt Whiting > wrote in
:

> Rich Ahrens wrote:
>> Jay Honeck wrote:
>>>> I need some information about the take off & landing of a passanger
>>>> plane.is there any particular distance upto which a plane has to
>>>> travell before moving towards direction of its destination. Or
>>>> before landing do these planes come to a certain distance from
>>>> where they heads towards runway.how they manage this air traffic.
>>>
>>> Before we can attempt to answer your "question", I would
>>> respectfully suggest that you work on your English language skills
>>> -- or have someone help you type this, and try again. I personally
>>> can't make hide nor hair out of what you're trying to ask...
>>
>> I would disrespectfully suggest you work on yours as the meaning is
>> quite clear. And his English is undoubtedly better than your Tamil.
>
> Why then didn't you answer his question(s) if they were quite clear to
> you?

I had as soon as the first post was made.

Jay obviously wantred him to revise his question so as he could answer with
directions to his notell motel inserted.

Bertie

gatt[_2_]
January 31st 08, 09:45 PM
Oh, hell, I can't understand him either but he knows my language better than
I know his, so let's at least try:

>>>> I need some information about the take off & landing of a passanger
>>>> plane.is there any particular distance upto >>>>which a plane has to
>>>> travell before moving towards direction of its destination.

It depends on the terrain, airspace and noise abatement procedures. A 747
will climb to a specific altitude above ground level so as not to rattle the
suburbs. A Cessna will climb to an altitude that is at least 1000 feet
above ground level, but might remain below a higher altitude if there is an
airspace shelf belonging to a larger airport. (For example.)

>>>Or before landing do these planes come to a certain distance from where
>>>they
>>> heads towards runway.how they manage this air traffic.

I'm not sure I understand the question, but every airport has a traffic
pattern that for small aircraft is 1000' above runway level and there are
various methods for entering the pattern depending on the airport,
geography, etc. Aircraft that are making instrument approaches fly a
specific or assigned altitude to a point some number of miles out, where
they establish the approach and fly the appropriate airspeed, heading and
descent rate until its time for them to land the plane.

Hope that helps. Cheers!

-c

Jay Maynard
February 1st 08, 01:55 AM
On 2008-01-31, gatt > wrote:
> I'm not sure I understand the question, but every airport has a traffic
> pattern that for small aircraft is 1000' above runway level

Not always. Ellington Field in southeast Houston has a 600 AGL traffic
pattern for small aircraft.
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Marty Shapiro
February 1st 08, 03:34 AM
Jay Maynard > wrote in
:

> On 2008-01-31, gatt > wrote:
>> I'm not sure I understand the question, but every airport has a traffic
>> pattern that for small aircraft is 1000' above runway level
>
> Not always. Ellington Field in southeast Houston has a 600 AGL traffic
> pattern for small aircraft.

At HWD for 10R/28L the pattern is 650 MSL (598 AGL) while for 10L/28R
it is 850 MSL. If 28 is in use, then OAK is using 29 for the jetliners and
they will be at 1,300 MSL 1 mile from 10R/28L at HWD. Traffic to 27L&R at
OAK will be at 1,300 MSL 2.5 miles from HWD's 10L/28R.

--
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gatt[_2_]
February 1st 08, 04:16 PM
"Jay Maynard" > wrote in message
...
> On 2008-01-31, gatt > wrote:
>> I'm not sure I understand the question, but every airport has a traffic
>> pattern that for small aircraft is 1000' above runway level
>
> Not always. Ellington Field in southeast Houston has a 600 AGL traffic
> pattern for small aircraft.

I'm sorry. I meant to qualify that with "typically."

-c

Rich Ahrens[_2_]
February 1st 08, 08:36 PM
Matt Whiting wrote:
> Rich Ahrens wrote:
>> Jay Honeck wrote:
>>>> I need some information about the take off & landing of a passanger
>>>> plane.is there any particular distance upto which a plane has to
>>>> travell before moving towards direction of its destination. Or before
>>>> landing do these planes come to a certain distance from where they
>>>> heads towards runway.how they manage this air traffic.
>>>
>>> Before we can attempt to answer your "question", I would respectfully
>>> suggest that you work on your English language skills -- or have
>>> someone help you type this, and try again. I personally can't make
>>> hide nor hair out of what you're trying to ask...
>>
>> I would disrespectfully suggest you work on yours as the meaning is
>> quite clear. And his English is undoubtedly better than your Tamil.
>
> Why then didn't you answer his question(s) if they were quite clear to you?

Because someone else already had.

Ricky
February 2nd 08, 12:30 AM
On Jan 30, 7:44*pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> Ricky > wrote :
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 30, 7:12*pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> >> "Jay Honeck" > wrote
> >> innews:iF8oj.8806$9j6.6754@a
> > ttbi_s22:
>
> >> >> I need some information about the take off & landing of a
> >> >> passanger plane.is there any particular distance upto which a
> >> >> plane has to travell before moving towards direction of its
> >> >> destination. Or before landing do these planes come to a certain
> >> >> distance from where they heads towards runway.how they manage this
> >> >> air traffic.
>
> >> > Before we can attempt to answer your "question", I would
> >> > respectfully suggest that you work on your English language skills
> >> > -- or have someone help you type this, and try again. *I personally
> >> > can't make hide nor hair out of what you're trying to ask...
>
> >> Real civil there fjukkwit.
>
> >> I understood him perfectly.
>
> >> Bertie
>
> > Bertie, I sort of understood the OP's query, even better after reading
> > your reply but Jay's request was perfectly reasonable, as well
>
> . On my
>
> > first reading I didn't really get it, either. I had to re-read it and
> > then your reply helped.
> > He was also being "civil," not unkind, in my opinion.
>
> He was being a ****heel IMO.
>
> Ayt best he;s a hypocrite

Sometimes I am a sh**heel, too, as well as a hypocrite. I just hope in
the interest of friendship, community and civility that we can all be
allowed to show our negative sides and not be torn apart because of
them.
I'd be party to Bertie, Jay, Larry and whoever else going flying
someday and then going out and having a few beers afterwards.
That's how a good fight should happen (perhaps). Knock each other
around, get it over with, and then go have a few!

Ricky


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Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
February 2nd 08, 12:33 AM
Ricky > wrote in
:

> On Jan 30, 7:44*pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> Ricky > wrote
>> innews:143c620f-cd0e-454e-8775-26ad1
> :
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 30, 7:12*pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> >> "Jay Honeck" > wrote
>> >> innews:iF8oj.8806$9j6.6754@a
>> > ttbi_s22:
>>
>> >> >> I need some information about the take off & landing of a
>> >> >> passanger plane.is there any particular distance upto which a
>> >> >> plane has to travell before moving towards direction of its
>> >> >> destination. Or before landing do these planes come to a
>> >> >> certain distance from where they heads towards runway.how they
>> >> >> manage this air traffic.
>>
>> >> > Before we can attempt to answer your "question", I would
>> >> > respectfully suggest that you work on your English language
>> >> > skills -- or have someone help you type this, and try again. *I
>> >> > personally
>
>> >> > can't make hide nor hair out of what you're trying to ask...
>>
>> >> Real civil there fjukkwit.
>>
>> >> I understood him perfectly.
>>
>> >> Bertie
>>
>> > Bertie, I sort of understood the OP's query, even better after
>> > reading your reply but Jay's request was perfectly reasonable, as
>> > well
>>
>> . On my
>>
>> > first reading I didn't really get it, either. I had to re-read it
>> > and then your reply helped.
>> > He was also being "civil," not unkind, in my opinion.
>>
>> He was being a ****heel IMO.
>>
>> Ayt best he;s a hypocrite
>
> Sometimes I am a sh**heel, too, as well as a hypocrite. I just hope in
> the interest of friendship, community and civility that we can all be
> allowed to show our negative sides and not be torn apart because of
> them.
> I'd be party to Bertie, Jay, Larry and whoever else going flying
> someday and then going out and having a few beers afterwards.
> That's how a good fight should happen (perhaps). Knock each other
> around, get it over with, and then go have a few!

I'd do that, but I doubt Jay or Larry would survive it!

Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
February 2nd 08, 08:59 AM
John Smith > wrote in news:jsmith-61069D.20175501022008
@news-server.columbus.rr.com:

>> > I'd be party to Bertie, Jay, Larry and whoever else going flying
>> > someday and then going out and having a few beers afterwards.
>> > That's how a good fight should happen (perhaps). Knock each other
>> > around, get it over with, and then go have a few!
>>
>> I'd do that, but I doubt Jay or Larry would survive it!
>
> RAP parties at OSH are pretty tame.
> I cannot remember a good knock down/drag out discussion any of the years
> I have attended.
> But the beer is good!
>

Careful, I might come and that could all change!



Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
February 2nd 08, 01:36 PM
John Smith > wrote in
:

> In article >,
> Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>
>> >> > I'd be party to Bertie, Jay, Larry and whoever else going flying
>> >> > someday and then going out and having a few beers afterwards.
>> >> > That's how a good fight should happen (perhaps). Knock each
>> >> > other around, get it over with, and then go have a few!
>> >>
>> >> I'd do that, but I doubt Jay or Larry would survive it!
>> >
>> > RAP parties at OSH are pretty tame.
>> > I cannot remember a good knock down/drag out discussion any of the
>> > years I have attended.
>> > But the beer is good!
>
>> Careful, I might come and that could all change!
>
> Promise? This year?
>

Heh he. No not this year, Mrs bunyip is fixing up the house. I'm broke!

Bertie

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