Looking for picture of an engineer hanging outside of a cub orsimilar in flight, old advertising I think.

[James Sleeman]

Sorry for the long subject, but like it says, I'm looking for an image
I came across once, possibly through a link in r.a.* somewhere, from
memory it was of an engineer hanging outside of a cub or similar
changing a spark plug or something in flight. I think it was an old
advertisement or something.

Anybody know the image I'm talking about and have a link to it?

[Stealth Pilot[_2_]]

On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 00:28:44 -0800 (PST), James Sleeman
> wrote:

>Sorry for the long subject, but like it says, I'm looking for an image
>I came across once, possibly through a link in r.a.* somewhere, from
>memory it was of an engineer hanging outside of a cub or similar
>changing a spark plug or something in flight. I think it was an old
>advertisement or something.
>
>Anybody know the image I'm talking about and have a link to it?

the guy was topping up the oil duringr a week long endurance flight.
needed to do it every few days as I recall.

guys name was Ira Eaker, year was 1929.
http://www.aerofiles.com/stin-smb1.jpg
is the photo you probably remember.

it left an indelible image in my mind :-)

Stealth Pilot

[James Sleeman]

On Feb 5, 1:06*am, Stealth Pilot >
wrote:

> guys name was Ira Eaker, year was 1929. http://www.aerofiles.com/stin-smb1..jpg

Damn, 404 error on that link Stealth :-(

[Ron Wanttaja]

On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 04:54:44 -0800 (PST), James Sleeman >
wrote:

> On Feb 5, 1:06*am, Stealth Pilot >
> wrote:
>
> > guys name was Ira Eaker, year was 1929. http://www.aerofiles.com/stin-smb1.jpg
>
> Damn, 404 error on that link Stealth :-(

Typo in the link. See:

http://www.aerofiles.com/stin-sm1b.jpg

Ron Wanttaja

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

James Sleeman > wrote in news:f9aeed24-9918-41b5-
:

> Sorry for the long subject, but like it says, I'm looking for an image
> I came across once, possibly through a link in r.a.* somewhere, from
> memory it was of an engineer hanging outside of a cub or similar
> changing a spark plug or something in flight. I think it was an old
> advertisement or something.
>
> Anybody know the image I'm talking about and have a link to it?
>

Yeah. YYou're probably talking about Merle Larson. He was a barnstormer
that used to do it in a porterfield in the early days and later in a cub
for airshows. http://www.pipercubforum.com/handprop.htm

Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

Stealth Pilot > wrote in
:

> On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 00:28:44 -0800 (PST), James Sleeman
> > wrote:
>
>>Sorry for the long subject, but like it says, I'm looking for an image
>>I came across once, possibly through a link in r.a.* somewhere, from
>>memory it was of an engineer hanging outside of a cub or similar
>>changing a spark plug or something in flight. I think it was an old
>>advertisement or something.
>>
>>Anybody know the image I'm talking about and have a link to it?
>
> the guy was topping up the oil duringr a week long endurance flight.
> needed to do it every few days as I recall.
>
> guys name was Ira Eaker, year was 1929.
> http://www.aerofiles.com/stin-smb1.jpg
> is the photo you probably remember.
>
> it left an indelible image in my mind :-)
>

Yeah, tha's another. There was a 172 sometime in the fifties where they had
a platform under the airplane for servicing. It was a big thing to do to
sell airplanes back then.. Luscombe tried it with a sedan and it came to
grief.

Bertie

[Robert M. Gary]

On Feb 4, 12:28*am, James Sleeman > wrote:
> Sorry for the long subject, but like it says, I'm looking for an image
> I came across once, possibly through a link in r.a.* somewhere, from
> memory it was of an engineer hanging outside of a cub or similar
> changing a spark plug or something in flight. *I think it was an old
> advertisement or something.
>
> Anybody know the image I'm talking about and have a link to it?

I recall the only where the guy changed a spark plug in flight as part
of a sales promotion. Could that be what you were looking for? He
killed the engine, changed the plug, fired it back up, and was on his
way.

-robert

[William Hung[_2_]]

On Feb 4, 10:45*am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> James Sleeman > wrote in news:f9aeed24-9918-41b5-
> :
>
> > Sorry for the long subject, but like it says, I'm looking for an image
> > I came across once, possibly through a link in r.a.* somewhere, from
> > memory it was of an engineer hanging outside of a cub or similar
> > changing a spark plug or something in flight. *I think it was an old
> > advertisement or something.
>
> > Anybody know the image I'm talking about and have a link to it?
>
> Yeah. YYou're probably talking about Merle Larson. He was a barnstormer
> that used to do it in a porterfield in the early days and later in a cub
> for airshows.http://www.pipercubforum.com/handprop.htm
>
> Bertie

I was impressed until I read that there was someone at the controls.
Thought he was the only one on board. Still kinda cool, I guess.

Wil

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

William Hung > wrote in news:88b97cc5-0134-4a7a-a0de-
:

> On Feb 4, 10:45*am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> James Sleeman > wrote in news:f9aeed24-9918-41b5-
>> :
>>
>> > Sorry for the long subject, but like it says, I'm looking for an image
>> > I came across once, possibly through a link in r.a.* somewhere, from
>> > memory it was of an engineer hanging outside of a cub or similar
>> > changing a spark plug or something in flight. *I think it was an old
>> > advertisement or something.
>>
>> > Anybody know the image I'm talking about and have a link to it?
>>
>> Yeah. YYou're probably talking about Merle Larson. He was a barnstormer
>> that used to do it in a porterfield in the early days and later in a cub
>> for airshows.http://www.pipercubforum.com/handprop.htm
>>
>> Bertie
>
> I was impressed until I read that there was someone at the controls.
> Thought he was the only one on board. Still kinda cool, I guess.
>

I think he did do this solo at airshows. He did it in the thirties in the
little baby Porterfield parasol. He also did it as an instructor in the
CPTP when an engine died while doing stalls with a student. Imagine the
student's surrpise when he got out.

Bertie

[James Sleeman]

On Feb 5, 4:17*am, Ron Wanttaja > wrote:

> http://www.aerofiles.com/stin-sm1b.jpg

Thanks but, I don't think it was that one I was thinking of :-/

[James Sleeman]

On Feb 5, 4:45*am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:

> for airshows. http://www.pipercubforum.com/handprop.htm

Could have been that one, certainly closer to what I remember, I'm
pretty sure the one I'm thinking of was an advertising thing and I
think it was in colour.

Frustrating. I had saved on my old laptop a couple years back, and
forgot it was there when I refornatted the drive.

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

James Sleeman > wrote in news:26192766-719f-436a-
:

> On Feb 5, 4:45*am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>
>> for airshows. http://www.pipercubforum.com/handprop.htm
>
> Could have been that one, certainly closer to what I remember, I'm
> pretty sure the one I'm thinking of was an advertising thing and I
> think it was in colour.
>
> Frustrating. I had saved on my old laptop a couple years back, and
> forgot it was there when I refornatted the drive.
>
>

The only two I can think of are the 172 and the Curtiss Robin mentioned
earlier. but tehre were probably loads of guys who did this over the years.



Bertie

[Jim Logajan]

James Sleeman > wrote:
> On Feb 5, 4:17*am, Ron Wanttaja > wrote:
>
>> http://www.aerofiles.com/stin-sm1b.jpg
>
> Thanks but, I don't think it was that one I was thinking of :-/
>

I know you also don't mean the pilot "Rosie" played by Brian Dennehy in the
film "Never Cry Wolf" but there was a memorable scene in that movie where
the engine of Rosie's plane starts to falter and...

Rosie: Take the stick... Aaaaaaah!
Tyler: What's wrong?
Rosie: Boredom, Tyler. Boredom - that's what's wrong. And how do you beat
boredom, Tyler?... Adventure. Adventure, Tyler.
Tyler: Where are you going, Rosie? Rosie, what are you doing? I can't fly
this thing! What do I do?

....and Rosie has grabbed a tool (a wrench?), opens the door of the plane in
flight and steps onto the wing struts to fix the problem.

Wish I knew what plane he flew in that scene - it was a real patchwork of
ugly repairs.

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

Jim Logajan > wrote in
:

> James Sleeman > wrote:
>> On Feb 5, 4:17*am, Ron Wanttaja > wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.aerofiles.com/stin-sm1b.jpg
>>
>> Thanks but, I don't think it was that one I was thinking of :-/
>>
>
> I know you also don't mean the pilot "Rosie" played by Brian Dennehy
> in the film "Never Cry Wolf" but there was a memorable scene in that
> movie where the engine of Rosie's plane starts to falter and...
>
> Rosie: Take the stick... Aaaaaaah!
> Tyler: What's wrong?
> Rosie: Boredom, Tyler. Boredom - that's what's wrong. And how do you
> beat boredom, Tyler?... Adventure. Adventure, Tyler.
> Tyler: Where are you going, Rosie? Rosie, what are you doing? I can't
> fly this thing! What do I do?
>
> ...and Rosie has grabbed a tool (a wrench?), opens the door of the
> plane in flight and steps onto the wing struts to fix the problem.
>
> Wish I knew what plane he flew in that scene - it was a real patchwork
> of ugly repairs.
>


That was Never Cry wolf, wasn't it? I saw it a loooong time ago. I can't
remember but I think it was a Twin Beech.

For an even more gripping real life adventure like that, see if you can
find an account of Kingsfor Smith's second crossing of the Tasmin Sea in
the Southern Cross.. The lost one engine due to a busted prop and were
losing oil out of another. The only thing to do was transfer oil from
oned engine to the other manually by climbing out on the landing gear
struts, ripping open the cowling with a screwdriver, draining the oil
from ( the left, I think) into his leather briefcase, the only vessel
capable of holding oil on board, then climbing out the other side and
pouring it into the running right engine. The guy who did this is one of
the fathers of long distance navigation. Can't remember his first name,
but his last name was Taylor.



Bertie

[Gene Seibel]

On Feb 4, 2:28*am, James Sleeman > wrote:
> Sorry for the long subject, but like it says, I'm looking for an image
> I came across once, possibly through a link in r.a.* somewhere, from
> memory it was of an engineer hanging outside of a cub or similar
> changing a spark plug or something in flight. *I think it was an old
> advertisement or something.
>
> Anybody know the image I'm talking about and have a link to it?

http://www.micom.net/oops/AirMaint.jpg
--
Gene Seibel
Tales of flight - http://pad39a.com/gene/tales.html
Because we fly, we envy no one.

[Jim Logajan]

Gene Seibel > wrote:
> On Feb 4, 2:28*am, James Sleeman > wrote:
>> Sorry for the long subject, but like it says, I'm looking for an image
>> I came across once, possibly through a link in r.a.* somewhere, from
>> memory it was of an engineer hanging outside of a cub or similar
>> changing a spark plug or something in flight. *I think it was an old
>> advertisement or something.
>>
>> Anybody know the image I'm talking about and have a link to it?
>
> http://www.micom.net/oops/AirMaint.jpg

The photos on this page may have the answer too, or at least a chuckle:

http://eaa31.org/humor/humor.htm

[[email protected]]

On Feb 5, 7:01 am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:

> That was Never Cry wolf, wasn't it? I saw it a loooong time ago. I can't
> remember but I think it was a Twin Beech.

deHavilland Beaver, IIRC.

> For an even more gripping real life adventure like that, see if you can
> find an account of Kingsfor Smith's second crossing of the Tasmin Sea in
> the Southern Cross.. The lost one engine due to a busted prop and were
> losing oil out of another. The only thing to do was transfer oil from
> oned engine to the other manually by climbing out on the landing gear
> struts, ripping open the cowling with a screwdriver, draining the oil
> from ( the left, I think) into his leather briefcase, the only vessel
> capable of holding oil on board, then climbing out the other side and
> pouring it into the running right engine. The guy who did this is one of
> the fathers of long distance navigation. Can't remember his first name,
> but his last name was Taylor.

I have that story in an anthology. Great reading. It was a
tri-motor, and just before the flight they'd had one of the engines
all apart. During the flight, one engine quit (the left, I think),
then the right started losing oil. They couldn't maintain altitude on
one, so they dumped the mail overboard and started the oil transfer.
Made it to shore. The only engine that hadn't given any trouble was
the nose engine: the one that had been apart all over the hangar
floor.

Dan

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

wrote in news:7abc5b0c-a411-498b-820a-
:

> On Feb 5, 7:01 am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>
>> That was Never Cry wolf, wasn't it? I saw it a loooong time ago. I can't
>> remember but I think it was a Twin Beech.
>
> deHavilland Beaver, IIRC.
>
>> For an even more gripping real life adventure like that, see if you can
>> find an account of Kingsfor Smith's second crossing of the Tasmin Sea in
>> the Southern Cross.. The lost one engine due to a busted prop and were
>> losing oil out of another. The only thing to do was transfer oil from
>> oned engine to the other manually by climbing out on the landing gear
>> struts, ripping open the cowling with a screwdriver, draining the oil
>> from ( the left, I think) into his leather briefcase, the only vessel
>> capable of holding oil on board, then climbing out the other side and
>> pouring it into the running right engine. The guy who did this is one of
>> the fathers of long distance navigation. Can't remember his first name,
>> but his last name was Taylor.
>
> I have that story in an anthology. Great reading. It was a
> tri-motor, and just before the flight they'd had one of the engines
> all apart. During the flight, one engine quit (the left, I think),
> then the right started losing oil. They couldn't maintain altitude on
> one, so they dumped the mail overboard and started the oil transfer.
> Made it to shore. The only engine that hadn't given any trouble was
> the nose engine: the one that had been apart all over the hangar
> floor.
>

That's the one. You probably read the sae account I did which would have
been Gordon Taylor's account. I remeber him remarking that the guy who had
the nose engine apart he wouldn't let work on his Model T. IIRC, the left
engine itself didn't quit, they shed a prop blade and part of the problem
getting the vibratin from that when it was windmilling.