What glue to use for replacing cockpit interior fabric

[Gary Emerson]

Greetings,

I've got a SH glider. Have ordered new cockpit interior fabric, and am
ready to glue them in. Old fabric is removed, but there is some
residual glue on the cockpit sides that is pretty well stuck that I'd
prefer not to have to remove.

Asked SH, but got no reply.

One pilot suggested Pliobond, but it has a stronger odor that lingers
after it dries that I'm really not very excited about.

Has anyone used the Weldwood contact cement successfully or is there
another lower odor cement/glue that is recommended???

Many thanks in advance!

Gary

[JJ Sinclair]

On Feb 6, 4:38*am, Gary Emerson > wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I've got a SH glider. *Have ordered new cockpit interior fabric, and am
> ready to glue them in. *Old fabric is removed, but there is some
> residual glue on the cockpit sides that is pretty well stuck that I'd
> prefer not to have to remove.
>
> Asked SH, but got no reply.
>
> One pilot suggested Pliobond, but it has a stronger odor that lingers
> after it dries that I'm really not very excited about.
>
> Has anyone used the Weldwood contact cement successfully or is there
> another lower odor cement/glue that is recommended???
>
> Many thanks in advance!
>
> Gary

Contact cement's the way to go. Stir well, apply to both surfaces, let
it dry for 15 minutes, put in place (be careful to get it started in
the exact right place), hammer it down everywhere with a rubber
mallet.
JJ

[Gary Emerson]

JJ,

Which glue have you used? Weldwood? Pilobond?? other?

Thanks,

Gary

JJ Sinclair wrote:
> On Feb 6, 4:38 am, Gary Emerson > wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I've got a SH glider. Have ordered new cockpit interior fabric, and am
>> ready to glue them in. Old fabric is removed, but there is some
>> residual glue on the cockpit sides that is pretty well stuck that I'd
>> prefer not to have to remove.
>>
>> Asked SH, but got no reply.
>>
>> One pilot suggested Pliobond, but it has a stronger odor that lingers
>> after it dries that I'm really not very excited about.
>>
>> Has anyone used the Weldwood contact cement successfully or is there
>> another lower odor cement/glue that is recommended???
>>
>> Many thanks in advance!
>>
>> Gary
>
> Contact cement's the way to go. Stir well, apply to both surfaces, let
> it dry for 15 minutes, put in place (be careful to get it started in
> the exact right place), hammer it down everywhere with a rubber
> mallet.
> JJ

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I'm not sure I would want to "hammer" against my cockpit structure
with a rubber mallet or anything else. Can you say cracking gelcoat?

If it was my glider, I would carefully fit the fabric and apply
contact cement to Velcro strips around the edges. More strips on the
cockpit surface and the fabric can be removed for cleaning.

MSM

> Contact cement's the way to go. Stir well, apply to both surfaces, let
> it dry for 15 minutes, put in place (be careful to get it started in
> the exact right place), hammer it down everywhere with a rubber
> mallet.
> JJ- Hide quoted text -
>
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On Feb 6, 4:38*am, Gary Emerson > wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I've got a SH glider. *Have ordered new cockpit interior fabric, and am
> ready to glue them in. *Old fabric is removed, but there is some
> residual glue on the cockpit sides that is pretty well stuck that I'd
> prefer not to have to remove.
>
> Asked SH, but got no reply.
>
> One pilot suggested Pliobond, but it has a stronger odor that lingers
> after it dries that I'm really not very excited about.
>
> Has anyone used the Weldwood contact cement successfully or is there
> another lower odor cement/glue that is recommended???
>
> Many thanks in advance!
>
> Gary

To get the best bond of the new fabric, regardles of what glue you
use, you will need to remove the old residue first. Time, scotchbrite
pads, and 3M General Adhesive Cleaner http://www.3mestore.com/62478765092.html

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On Feb 6, 6:59*am, wrote:
> I'm not sure I would want to "hammer" against my cockpit structure
> with a rubber mallet or anything else. Can you say cracking gelcoat?
>
> If it was my glider, I would carefully fit the fabric and apply
> contact cement to Velcro strips around the edges. More strips on the
> cockpit surface and the fabric can be removed for cleaning.

Decent idea. But in the heat, the velcro bond is stronger than the
contact cement and you'll just end up pulling all the velcro up. Use
plumbers goop.

[JJ Sinclair]

Weldwood works for me. I have found that "tapping" the two pieces
together with a rubber mallet will insure good gontact between both
surfaces. Don't "Hammer" so hard as to crack the gel-coat. Contact
cemented velcro doesn't hold in the heat, even if you "hammer" it
down.
:>) JJ

[Todd]

I am not sure I would beat the k... out of my glider. They make a
tool called a J-Roller for this purpose. Not real expensive, and
might be hanging right next to the contact cement at your local home
center. Or find a friend who likes to make cabinets (Formica type
stuff) and borrow his. Then roll the k... out of everything.

I agree, wait till a warm day. If it is too cold, especially for the
non-solvent contact cements, they take forever to dry to the tacky
state.

And don't forget, once the 2 pieces touch each other, they are not
going anyplace. Given all the weird shapes you will be working with,
I would figure out the final assembly BEFORE any cement is applied.
Wax paper, parchment paper between the glider and carpet might work
well to permit you to reposition before you slowly pull the paper out.

[Gary Emerson]

Todd wrote:
> I am not sure I would beat the k... out of my glider. They make a
> tool called a J-Roller for this purpose. Not real expensive, and
> might be hanging right next to the contact cement at your local home
> center. Or find a friend who likes to make cabinets (Formica type
> stuff) and borrow his. Then roll the k... out of everything.
>
> I agree, wait till a warm day. If it is too cold, especially for the
> non-solvent contact cements, they take forever to dry to the tacky
> state.
>
> And don't forget, once the 2 pieces touch each other, they are not
> going anyplace. Given all the weird shapes you will be working with,
> I would figure out the final assembly BEFORE any cement is applied.
> Wax paper, parchment paper between the glider and carpet might work
> well to permit you to reposition before you slowly pull the paper out.

Fortunately, I have a J roller from putting down the Formica on my
workbench. The wax paper is a great idea.

Thanks!

[Peter[_4_]]

I found the old fashioned "DAP" contact cement working the best. I am sure
others are fine as well. The ones to stay away from are the "green",
environmentally friendly labeled adhesives. They don't work worth a crap!
PeterK
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On Feb 6, 4:38 am, Gary Emerson > wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I've got a SH glider. Have ordered new cockpit interior fabric, and am
> ready to glue them in. Old fabric is removed, but there is some
> residual glue on the cockpit sides that is pretty well stuck that I'd
> prefer not to have to remove.
>
> Asked SH, but got no reply.
>
> One pilot suggested Pliobond, but it has a stronger odor that lingers
> after it dries that I'm really not very excited about.
>
> Has anyone used the Weldwood contact cement successfully or is there
> another lower odor cement/glue that is recommended???
>
> Many thanks in advance!
>
> Gary

To get the best bond of the new fabric, regardles of what glue you
use, you will need to remove the old residue first. Time, scotchbrite
pads, and 3M General Adhesive Cleaner
http://www.3mestore.com/62478765092.html

[[email protected]]

Easy....first take off all the residual adhesive with a scotch brite
roloc pad on an air die grinder mandrel. Not very expensive but
effective without worry of hurting the underlying structure.

For adhesive.....3M 1300L. It's like contact cement on steroids,
holds up in the heat, and consequently is what they use to glue
interior fabric, carpet, insulation, plastic, leather...the list goes
on an on.....in everything from Cessna 150's to 747's. You know it's
good if they can use it to glue fabric to aluminum.

All this stuff is available from www.aircraftspruce.com or Brown Tool,
or probably even your local fbo. I think I've seen the roloc
scotchbright pads at the local Checker auto parts store.

Hope that helps.

[Jim Vincent]

3M77 spray contact cement. Mask off the areas you don't want sprayed. More
even than brush on and faster to apply. Did my old ship this way...tied out
in the sun for a few years, never a problem.

"Gary Emerson" > wrote in message
t...
> Greetings,
>
> I've got a SH glider. Have ordered new cockpit interior fabric, and am
> ready to glue them in. Old fabric is removed, but there is some residual
> glue on the cockpit sides that is pretty well stuck that I'd prefer not to
> have to remove.
>
> Asked SH, but got no reply.
>
> One pilot suggested Pliobond, but it has a stronger odor that lingers
> after it dries that I'm really not very excited about.
>
> Has anyone used the Weldwood contact cement successfully or is there
> another lower odor cement/glue that is recommended???
>
> Many thanks in advance!
>
> Gary