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Larry Dighera
February 13th 08, 03:06 PM
A Defense Department analyst and a former engineer for Boeing Co.
were charged Monday in separate spy cases for allegedly handing
over military secrets to the Chinese government, the Justice
Department said.Additionally, two immigrants from China and Taiwan
accused of working with the defense analyst were arrested after an
FBI raid Monday morning on a New Orleans home where one of them
lived. The two cases _ based in Alexandria, Va., and Los Angeles
_ have no connection, and investigators said it was merely a
coincidence that charges would be brought against both on the same
day.The arrests mark China's latest attempts to gain top secret
information about U.S. military systems and sales, said Assistant
Attorney General Kenneth Wainstein. He described China as
"particularly adept, and particularly determined and methodical in
their espionage efforts.""The threat is very simple," Wainstein
said at a Justice Department news conference in Washington. "It's
a threat to our national security and to our economic position in
the world, a threat that is posed by the relentless efforts of
foreign intelligence services to penetrate our security systems
and steal our most ...
(AP Online 02:11 PM ET 02/11/2008)

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Bob Noel
February 13th 08, 03:12 PM
In article >,
Larry Dighera > wrote:

>
> A Defense Department analyst and a former engineer for Boeing Co.
> were charged Monday in separate spy cases for allegedly handing
> over military secrets to the Chinese government,...

geez, Larry, why accuse Boeing? Boeing management has done enough stupid
things, but to have the subject line claim Boeing gave away secrets is
inappropriate.

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

Steve Foley
February 13th 08, 03:18 PM
"Bob Noel" > wrote in message
...

> but to have the subject line claim Boeing gave away secrets is
> inappropriate.

I'm still trying to figure out how this is appropriate at all in a piloting
group.

Larry Dighera
February 13th 08, 03:20 PM
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:12:09 -0500, Bob Noel
> wrote in
>:

>In article >,
> Larry Dighera > wrote:
>
>>
>> A Defense Department analyst and a former engineer for Boeing Co.
>> were charged Monday in separate spy cases for allegedly handing
>> over military secrets to the Chinese government,...
>
>geez, Larry, why accuse Boeing? Boeing management has done enough stupid
>things, but to have the subject line claim Boeing gave away secrets is
>inappropriate.

So you have information that exonerates Boeing?

Your amended subject line fails to use the plural; it should be
Engineers not Engineer.

Larry Dighera
February 13th 08, 03:25 PM
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:20:04 GMT, Larry Dighera >
wrote in >:

>On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:12:09 -0500, Bob Noel
> wrote in
>:
>
>>In article >,
>> Larry Dighera > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> A Defense Department analyst and a former engineer for Boeing Co.
>>> were charged Monday in separate spy cases for allegedly handing
>>> over military secrets to the Chinese government,...
>>
>>geez, Larry, why accuse Boeing? Boeing management has done enough stupid
>>things, but to have the subject line claim Boeing gave away secrets is
>>inappropriate.
>
>So you have information that exonerates Boeing?
>
>Your amended subject line fails to use the plural; it should be
>Engineers not Engineer.


On second thought, I retract the above. You are correct.

Ron Wanttaja
February 13th 08, 03:34 PM
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:20:04 GMT, Larry Dighera > wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:12:09 -0500, Bob Noel
> > wrote in
> >:
>
> >In article >,
> > Larry Dighera > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> A Defense Department analyst and a former engineer for Boeing Co.
> >> were charged Monday in separate spy cases for allegedly handing
> >> over military secrets to the Chinese government,...
> >
> >geez, Larry, why accuse Boeing? Boeing management has done enough stupid
> >things, but to have the subject line claim Boeing gave away secrets is
> >inappropriate.
>
> So you have information that exonerates Boeing?

Boeing wasn't charged. Hence your title was wrong.

> Your amended subject line fails to use the plural; it should be
> Engineers not Engineer.

Only one of the persons involved is ex-Boeing; if Boeing is kept in the Subject
line, singular is correct.

Ron Wanttaja

Viperdoc
February 13th 08, 03:48 PM
It isn't appropriate for the piloting group- it's just another one of
Larry's doom and gloom posts about the sky is falling and other impending
disasters, whether real or imagined.

Gig 601XL Builder[_2_]
February 13th 08, 04:33 PM
Larry Dighera wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:12:09 -0500, Bob Noel
> > wrote in
> >:
>
>> In article >,
>> Larry Dighera > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> A Defense Department analyst and a former engineer for Boeing Co.
>>> were charged Monday in separate spy cases for allegedly handing
>>> over military secrets to the Chinese government,...
>> geez, Larry, why accuse Boeing? Boeing management has done enough stupid
>> things, but to have the subject line claim Boeing gave away secrets is
>> inappropriate.
>
> So you have information that exonerates Boeing?
>

You Larry are the one claiming Boeing is giving the information away
when the story clearly says a DoD analyst and a FORMER engineer did it.
So I guess we I would have to ask if you have any information that shows
Boeing was aware of the act?

Bob Noel
February 13th 08, 04:37 PM
In article <QSDsj.4678$Uq4.2934@trndny02>,
"Steve Foley" > wrote:

> "Bob Noel" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > but to have the subject line claim Boeing gave away secrets is
> > inappropriate.
>
> I'm still trying to figure out how this is appropriate at all in a piloting
> group.

You are correct (it's not on-topic). I should have just ignored it.

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

John T
February 15th 08, 12:24 PM
"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message

>
> On second thought, I retract the above. You are correct.

No kidding.

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John T
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