What a Long Flight

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Just got up from a few hour nap was a super long flight. next stop
Malta, Luxor, then Qatar

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66032

[William Hung[_2_]]

On Feb 20, 12:42*pm, wrote:
> Just got up from a few hour nap was a super long flight. next stop
> Malta, Luxor, then Qatar
>
> http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66032

Would be great if we could get a "bird's eye view" of your approaches
and take offs at these remote places.

Wil

[Darkwing]

> wrote in message
...
> Just got up from a few hour nap was a super long flight. next stop
> Malta, Luxor, then Qatar
>
> http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66032


Ferry flights sound very interesting and cool (though I wouldn't be real
excited about going to the Middle East), maybe I'll do that in my next life.

[Dan[_1_]]

On Feb 20, 2:15*pm, William Hung > wrote:
> On Feb 20, 12:42*pm, wrote:
>
> > Just got up from a few hour nap was a super long flight. next stop
> > Malta, Luxor, then Qatar
>
> >http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66032
>
> Would be great if we could get a "bird's eye view" of your approaches
> and take offs at these remote places.
>
> Wil

I assume it's not legal to take passengers on these flights. However,
could a second pilot go along even if the aircraft did not technically
_require_ two pilots? I have a feeling many of us would love to have
that "once-in-a lifetime" opportunity to ride along on one of these,
and perhaps be somewhat helpful to the PIC along the way... ;)

--Dan

[Martin Hotze[_2_]]

William Hung schrieb:
> On Feb 20, 12:42 pm, wrote:
>> Just got up from a few hour nap was a super long flight. next stop
>> Malta, Luxor, then Qatar
>>
>> http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66032
>
> Would be great if we could get a "bird's eye view" of your approaches
> and take offs at these remote places.

what's remote about Malta or Luxor?

#m
--
"I have to say the biggest threat comes from overseas, and one
of the places we are increasingly worried about is Europe."
Michael Chertoff (Homeland Security Secretary)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7190788.stm

[[email protected]]

On Feb 20, 11:05*pm, Dan > wrote:
> On Feb 20, 2:15*pm, William Hung > wrote:
>
> > On Feb 20, 12:42*pm, wrote:
>
> > > Just got up from a few hour nap was a super long flight. next stop
> > > Malta, Luxor, then Qatar
>
> > >http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66032
>
> > Would be great if we could get a "bird's eye view" of your approaches
> > and take offs at these remote places.
>
> > Wil
>
> I assume it's not legal to take passengers on these flights. *However,
> could a second pilot go along even if the aircraft did not technically
> _require_ two pilots? *I have a feeling many of us would love to have
> that "once-in-a lifetime" opportunity to ride along on one of these,
> and perhaps be somewhat helpful to the PIC along the way... ;)
>
> *--Dan


A second pilot (Must Be Instrument Rated) can come along and help fly
as required crew. And a large bank account to cover their expenses.

[[email protected]]

On Feb 20, 9:42*pm, "Darkwing" <theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com> wrote:
> > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Just got up from a few hour nap was a super long flight. next stop
> > Malta, Luxor, then Qatar
>
> >http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66032
>
> Ferry flights sound very interesting and cool (though I wouldn't be real
> excited about going to the Middle East), maybe I'll do that in my next life.

Middle east is fun place, Just dont be gung ho pro american sporting a
flag on your shirt and braging how great a country you think it is.
know how to see and adapt and you are ok.

Some other export pilot took my epirb and immersion suit in bangor I
found out who he was he just bought himself $1,100 worth of equipment
as I had to buy new to go really ticked me off...

[Dan[_1_]]

On Feb 21, 8:35*am, wrote:
> On Feb 20, 11:05*pm, Dan > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 20, 2:15*pm, William Hung > wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 20, 12:42*pm, wrote:
>
> > > > Just got up from a few hour nap was a super long flight. next stop
> > > > Malta, Luxor, then Qatar
>
> > > >http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66032
>
> > > Would be great if we could get a "bird's eye view" of your approaches
> > > and take offs at these remote places.
>
> > > Wil
>
> > I assume it's not legal to take passengers on these flights. *However,
> > could a second pilot go along even if the aircraft did not technically
> > _require_ two pilots? *I have a feeling many of us would love to have
> > that "once-in-a lifetime" opportunity to ride along on one of these,
> > and perhaps be somewhat helpful to the PIC along the way... ;)
>
> > *--Dan
>
> A second pilot (Must Be Instrument Rated) can come along and help fly
> as required crew. And a large bank account to cover their expenses.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Expenses such as - food and hotel? Would one need to purchase a
survival suit (or any other equipment)?

--Dan

[Darkwing]

"Dan" > wrote in message
...
On Feb 21, 8:35 am, wrote:
> On Feb 20, 11:05 pm, Dan > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 20, 2:15 pm, William Hung > wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 20, 12:42 pm, wrote:
>
> > > > Just got up from a few hour nap was a super long flight. next stop
> > > > Malta, Luxor, then Qatar
>
> > > >http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66032
>
> > > Would be great if we could get a "bird's eye view" of your approaches
> > > and take offs at these remote places.
>
> > > Wil
>
> > I assume it's not legal to take passengers on these flights. However,
> > could a second pilot go along even if the aircraft did not technically
> > _require_ two pilots? I have a feeling many of us would love to have
> > that "once-in-a lifetime" opportunity to ride along on one of these,
> > and perhaps be somewhat helpful to the PIC along the way... ;)
>
> > --Dan
>
> A second pilot (Must Be Instrument Rated) can come along and help fly
> as required crew. And a large bank account to cover their expenses.- Hide
> quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
>
>Expenses such as - food and hotel? Would one need to purchase a
>survival suit (or any other equipment)?
>
>--Dan

Don't forget the commercial flight home!

[[email protected]]

On Feb 21, 3:30*pm, Dan > wrote:
> On Feb 21, 8:35*am, wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 20, 11:05*pm, Dan > wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 20, 2:15*pm, William Hung > wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 20, 12:42*pm, wrote:
>
> > > > > Just got up from a few hour nap was a super long flight. next stop
> > > > > Malta, Luxor, then Qatar
>
> > > > >http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66032
>
> > > > Would be great if we could get a "bird's eye view" of your approaches
> > > > and take offs at these remote places.
>
> > > > Wil
>
> > > I assume it's not legal to take passengers on these flights. *However,
> > > could a second pilot go along even if the aircraft did not technically
> > > _require_ two pilots? *I have a feeling many of us would love to have
> > > that "once-in-a lifetime" opportunity to ride along on one of these,
> > > and perhaps be somewhat helpful to the PIC along the way... ;)
>
> > > *--Dan
>
> > A second pilot (Must Be Instrument Rated) can come along and help fly
> > as required crew. And a large bank account to cover their expenses.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Expenses such as - food and hotel? * Would one need to purchase a
> survival suit (or any other equipment)?
>
> *--Dan- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yea, survival suit and epirb... food, lodging, airfare, ground
transportation, customs fee´s, etc. it adds up rather quickly.

[William Hung[_2_]]

On Feb 21, 10:17*am, Martin Hotze > wrote:
> William Hung schrieb:
>
> > On Feb 20, 12:42 pm, wrote:
> >> Just got up from a few hour nap was a super long flight. next stop
> >> Malta, Luxor, then Qatar
>
> >>http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66032
>
> > Would be great if we could get a "bird's eye view" of your approaches
> > and take offs at these remote places.
>
> what's remote about Malta or Luxor?
>
> #m
> --
> "I have to say the biggest threat comes from overseas, and one
> of the places we are increasingly worried about is Europe."
> Michael Chertoff (Homeland Security Secretary)
> *http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7190788.stm

I gues to a noob like me anything more than 50NM away is remote. <g>

Wil

[William Hung[_2_]]

On Feb 22, 6:41*am, wrote:
> On Feb 21, 3:30*pm, Dan > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 21, 8:35*am, wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 20, 11:05*pm, Dan > wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 20, 2:15*pm, William Hung > wrote:
>
> > > > > On Feb 20, 12:42*pm, wrote:
>
> > > > > > Just got up from a few hour nap was a super long flight. next stop
> > > > > > Malta, Luxor, then Qatar
>
> > > > > >http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66032
>
> > > > > Would be great if we could get a "bird's eye view" of your approaches
> > > > > and take offs at these remote places.
>
> > > > > Wil
>
> > > > I assume it's not legal to take passengers on these flights. *However,
> > > > could a second pilot go along even if the aircraft did not technically
> > > > _require_ two pilots? *I have a feeling many of us would love to have
> > > > that "once-in-a lifetime" opportunity to ride along on one of these,
> > > > and perhaps be somewhat helpful to the PIC along the way... ;)
>
> > > > *--Dan
>
> > > A second pilot (Must Be Instrument Rated) can come along and help fly
> > > as required crew. And a large bank account to cover their expenses.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Expenses such as - food and hotel? * Would one need to purchase a
> > survival suit (or any other equipment)?
>
> > *--Dan- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Yea, survival suit and epirb... food, lodging, airfare, ground
> transportation, customs fee´s, etc. *it adds up rather quickly.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

So, you're talking about 5-6AMUs? That is rather steep, but well
worth it for the experience and the hours IMO. I think one will spend
almost that must just hopping the local airports.

What's the reasoning for the second pilot to have instrument rating?
Isn't having a second pilot a bonus with or without an IR?


Wil

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

William Hung > wrote in
:

> On Feb 22, 6:41*am, wrote:
>> On Feb 21, 3:30*pm, Dan > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 21, 8:35*am, wrote:
>>
>> > > On Feb 20, 11:05*pm, Dan > wrote:
>>
>> > > > On Feb 20, 2:15*pm, William Hung > wrote:
>>
>> > > > > On Feb 20, 12:42*pm, wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > Just got up from a few hour nap was a super long flight.
>> > > > > > next st
> op
>> > > > > > Malta, Luxor, then Qatar
>>
>> > > > > >http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66032
>>
>> > > > > Would be great if we could get a "bird's eye view" of your
>> > > > > approac
> hes
>> > > > > and take offs at these remote places.
>>
>> > > > > Wil
>>
>> > > > I assume it's not legal to take passengers on these flights.
>> > > > *Howe
> ver,
>> > > > could a second pilot go along even if the aircraft did not
>> > > > technical
> ly
>> > > > _require_ two pilots? *I have a feeling many of us would love
>> > > > to h
> ave
>> > > > that "once-in-a lifetime" opportunity to ride along on one of
>> > > > these,
>
>> > > > and perhaps be somewhat helpful to the PIC along the way... ;)
>>
>> > > > *--Dan
>>
>> > > A second pilot (Must Be Instrument Rated) can come along and help
>> > > fly as required crew. And a large bank account to cover their
>> > > expenses.- H
> ide quoted text -
>>
>> > > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > Expenses such as - food and hotel? * Would one need to purchase a
>> > survival suit (or any other equipment)?
>>
>> > *--Dan- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Yea, survival suit and epirb... food, lodging, airfare, ground
>> transportation, customs fee´s, etc. *it adds up rather quickly.- Hide
> quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> So, you're talking about 5-6AMUs? That is rather steep, but well
> worth it for the experience and the hours IMO. I think one will spend
> almost that must just hopping the local airports.
>
> What's the reasoning for the second pilot to have instrument rating?
> Isn't having a second pilot a bonus with or without an IR?

How's th epilot going to sleep if he knows the second guy is going to
spear in while he's napping?

Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

William Hung > wrote in news:8af2ff1d-eb1d-49fc-ac7b-
:

> On Feb 21, 10:17*am, Martin Hotze > wrote:
>> William Hung schrieb:
>>
>> > On Feb 20, 12:42 pm, wrote:
>> >> Just got up from a few hour nap was a super long flight. next stop
>> >> Malta, Luxor, then Qatar
>>
>> >>http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66032
>>
>> > Would be great if we could get a "bird's eye view" of your approaches
>> > and take offs at these remote places.
>>
>> what's remote about Malta or Luxor?
>>
>> #m
>> --
>> "I have to say the biggest threat comes from overseas, and one
>> of the places we are increasingly worried about is Europe."
>> Michael Chertoff (Homeland Security Secretary)
>> *http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7190788.stm
>
> I gues to a noob like me anything more than 50NM away is remote. <g>

All you have to do to go furhter is not turn around!


Bertie

[William Hung[_2_]]

On Feb 22, 10:17*am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> William Hung > wrote :
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 22, 6:41*am, wrote:
> >> On Feb 21, 3:30*pm, Dan > wrote:
>
> >> > On Feb 21, 8:35*am, wrote:
>
> >> > > On Feb 20, 11:05*pm, Dan > wrote:
>
> >> > > > On Feb 20, 2:15*pm, William Hung > wrote:
>
> >> > > > > On Feb 20, 12:42*pm, wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > Just got up from a few hour nap was a super long flight.
> >> > > > > > next st
> > op
> >> > > > > > Malta, Luxor, then Qatar
>
> >> > > > > >http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66032
>
> >> > > > > Would be great if we could get a "bird's eye view" of your
> >> > > > > approac
> > hes
> >> > > > > and take offs at these remote places.
>
> >> > > > > Wil
>
> >> > > > I assume it's not legal to take passengers on these flights.
> >> > > > *Howe
> > ver,
> >> > > > could a second pilot go along even if the aircraft did not
> >> > > > technical
> > ly
> >> > > > _require_ two pilots? *I have a feeling many of us would love
> >> > > > to h
> > ave
> >> > > > that "once-in-a lifetime" opportunity to ride along on one of
> >> > > > these,
>
> >> > > > and perhaps be somewhat helpful to the PIC along the way... ;)
>
> >> > > > *--Dan
>
> >> > > A second pilot (Must Be Instrument Rated) can come along and help
> >> > > fly as required crew. And a large bank account to cover their
> >> > > expenses.- H
> > ide quoted text -
>
> >> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> >> > Expenses such as - food and hotel? * Would one need to purchase a
> >> > survival suit (or any other equipment)?
>
> >> > *--Dan- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> > - Show quoted text -
>
> >> Yea, survival suit and epirb... food, lodging, airfare, ground
> >> transportation, customs fee´s, etc. *it adds up rather quickly.- Hide
> > quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > So, you're talking about 5-6AMUs? *That is rather steep, but well
> > worth it for the experience and the hours IMO. *I think one will spend
> > almost that must just hopping the local airports.
>
> > What's the reasoning for the second pilot to have instrument rating?
> > Isn't having a second pilot a bonus with or without an IR?
>
> How's th epilot going to sleep if he knows the second guy is going to
> spear in while he's napping?
>
> Bertie- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I'm thinking that the weather would be fairly predictable and the
rated pilot can plan his rests along the way.

Wil

[William Hung[_2_]]

On Feb 22, 10:18*am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> William Hung > wrote in news:8af2ff1d-eb1d-49fc-ac7b-
> :
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 21, 10:17*am, Martin Hotze > wrote:
> >> William Hung schrieb:
>
> >> > On Feb 20, 12:42 pm, wrote:
> >> >> Just got up from a few hour nap was a super long flight. next stop
> >> >> Malta, Luxor, then Qatar
>
> >> >>http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66032
>
> >> > Would be great if we could get a "bird's eye view" of your approaches
> >> > and take offs at these remote places.
>
> >> what's remote about Malta or Luxor?
>
> >> #m
> >> --
> >> "I have to say the biggest threat comes from overseas, and one
> >> of the places we are increasingly worried about is Europe."
> >> Michael Chertoff (Homeland Security Secretary)
> >> *http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7190788.stm
>
> > I gues to a noob like me anything more than 50NM away is remote. <g>
>
> All you have to do to go furhter is not turn around!
>
> Bertie- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

They ain't trusting me to do that yet. <g>

Wil

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

William Hung > wrote in
:

> On Feb 22, 10:17*am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> William Hung > wrote
>> innews:26879d0e-dafe-4c62-b917-67ab
> :
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 22, 6:41*am, wrote:
>> >> On Feb 21, 3:30*pm, Dan > wrote:
>>
>> >> > On Feb 21, 8:35*am, wrote:
>>
>> >> > > On Feb 20, 11:05*pm, Dan > wrote:
>>
>> >> > > > On Feb 20, 2:15*pm, William Hung > wrote:
>>
>> >> > > > > On Feb 20, 12:42*pm, wrote:
>>
>> >> > > > > > Just got up from a few hour nap was a super long flight.
>> >> > > > > > next st
>> > op
>> >> > > > > > Malta, Luxor, then Qatar
>>
>> >> > > > > >http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66032
>>
>> >> > > > > Would be great if we could get a "bird's eye view" of your
>> >> > > > > approac
>> > hes
>> >> > > > > and take offs at these remote places.
>>
>> >> > > > > Wil
>>
>> >> > > > I assume it's not legal to take passengers on these flights.
>> >> > > > *Howe
>> > ver,
>> >> > > > could a second pilot go along even if the aircraft did not
>> >> > > > technical
>> > ly
>> >> > > > _require_ two pilots? *I have a feeling many of us would
>> >> > > > love to h
>> > ave
>> >> > > > that "once-in-a lifetime" opportunity to ride along on one
>> >> > > > of these,
>>
>> >> > > > and perhaps be somewhat helpful to the PIC along the way...
>> >> > > > ;)
>>
>> >> > > > *--Dan
>>
>> >> > > A second pilot (Must Be Instrument Rated) can come along and
>> >> > > help fly as required crew. And a large bank account to cover
>> >> > > their expenses.- H
>> > ide quoted text -
>>
>> >> > > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >> > Expenses such as - food and hotel? * Would one need to purchase
>> >> > a survival suit (or any other equipment)?
>>
>> >> > *--Dan- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >> Yea, survival suit and epirb... food, lodging, airfare, ground
>> >> transportation, customs fee´s, etc. *it adds up rather quickly.-
>> >> Hi
> de
>> > quoted text -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > So, you're talking about 5-6AMUs? *That is rather steep, but well
>> > worth it for the experience and the hours IMO. *I think one will
>> > spend
>
>> > almost that must just hopping the local airports.
>>
>> > What's the reasoning for the second pilot to have instrument
>> > rating? Isn't having a second pilot a bonus with or without an IR?
>>
>> How's th epilot going to sleep if he knows the second guy is going to
>> spear in while he's napping?
>>
>> Bertie- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I'm thinking that the weather would be fairly predictable and the
> rated pilot can plan his rests along the way.
>

Well, I used to do that and some sectors can be pretty long. 12 hours
isn't uncommon and I've doen 17.5. 15 minutes of napping can make a big
difference!


Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

William Hung > wrote in
:

> On Feb 22, 10:18*am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> William Hung > wrote in
>> news:8af2ff1d-eb1d-49fc-ac7b-
>> :
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 21, 10:17*am, Martin Hotze > wrote:
>> >> William Hung schrieb:
>>
>> >> > On Feb 20, 12:42 pm, wrote:
>> >> >> Just got up from a few hour nap was a super long flight. next
>> >> >> stop Malta, Luxor, then Qatar
>>
>> >> >>http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66032
>>
>> >> > Would be great if we could get a "bird's eye view" of your
>> >> > approaches
>
>> >> > and take offs at these remote places.
>>
>> >> what's remote about Malta or Luxor?
>>
>> >> #m
>> >> --
>> >> "I have to say the biggest threat comes from overseas, and one
>> >> of the places we are increasingly worried about is Europe."
>> >> Michael Chertoff (Homeland Security Secretary)
>> >> *http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7190788.stm
>>
>> > I gues to a noob like me anything more than 50NM away is remote.
>> > <g>
>>
>> All you have to do to go furhter is not turn around!
>>
>> Bertie- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> They ain't trusting me to do that yet. <g>
>

heh heh. OK. You will!

Bertie

[george]

On Feb 23, 4:35 am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:

> Well, I used to do that and some sectors can be pretty long. 12 hours
> isn't uncommon and I've doen 17.5. 15 minutes of napping can make a big
> difference!
>
Try sitting amid the self loading cargo on either
Sydney - Los Angeles
Auckland - Los Angeles
with only one bottle or red wine :-(

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

george > wrote in news:fc0ced53-1acc-4e2f-bc4d-4db74b4395c8
@c33g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:

> On Feb 23, 4:35 am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>
>> Well, I used to do that and some sectors can be pretty long. 12 hours
>> isn't uncommon and I've doen 17.5. 15 minutes of napping can make a big
>> difference!
>>
> Try sitting amid the self loading cargo on either
> Sydney - Los Angeles
> Auckland - Los Angeles
> with only one bottle or red wine :-(
>
>

Ah you poor thing..


Bertie

[[email protected]]

On Feb 22, 2:31*pm, William Hung > wrote:
> On Feb 22, 10:17*am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > William Hung > wrote :
>
> > > On Feb 22, 6:41*am, wrote:
> > >> On Feb 21, 3:30*pm, Dan > wrote:
>
> > >> > On Feb 21, 8:35*am, wrote:
>
> > >> > > On Feb 20, 11:05*pm, Dan > wrote:
>
> > >> > > > On Feb 20, 2:15*pm, William Hung > wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > On Feb 20, 12:42*pm, wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > > Just got up from a few hour nap was a super long flight.
> > >> > > > > > next st
> > > op
> > >> > > > > > Malta, Luxor, then Qatar
>
> > >> > > > > >http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66032
>
> > >> > > > > Would be great if we could get a "bird's eye view" of your
> > >> > > > > approac
> > > hes
> > >> > > > > and take offs at these remote places.
>
> > >> > > > > Wil
>
> > >> > > > I assume it's not legal to take passengers on these flights.
> > >> > > > *Howe
> > > ver,
> > >> > > > could a second pilot go along even if the aircraft did not
> > >> > > > technical
> > > ly
> > >> > > > _require_ two pilots? *I have a feeling many of us would love
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> > >> > > > that "once-in-a lifetime" opportunity to ride along on one of
> > >> > > > these,
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> > >> > > > and perhaps be somewhat helpful to the PIC along the way... ;)
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> > >> > > > *--Dan
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> > >> > > A second pilot (Must Be Instrument Rated) can come along and help
> > >> > > fly as required crew. And a large bank account to cover their
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> > >> > Expenses such as - food and hotel? * Would one need to purchase a
> > >> > survival suit (or any other equipment)?
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> > > So, you're talking about 5-6AMUs? *That is rather steep, but well
> > > worth it for the experience and the hours IMO. *I think one will spend
> > > almost that must just hopping the local airports.
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> > > What's the reasoning for the second pilot to have instrument rating?
> > > Isn't having a second pilot a bonus with or without an IR?
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> > How's th epilot going to sleep if he knows the second guy is going to
> > spear in while he's napping?
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predictable? nope never,

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On Feb 22, 1:47*pm, William Hung > wrote:
> On Feb 22, 6:41*am, wrote:
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> > On Feb 21, 3:30*pm, Dan > wrote:
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> > > On Feb 21, 8:35*am, wrote:
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> > > > On Feb 20, 11:05*pm, Dan > wrote:
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> > > > > On Feb 20, 2:15*pm, William Hung > wrote:
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> > > > > > On Feb 20, 12:42*pm, wrote:
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> > > > > > > Just got up from a few hour nap was a super long flight. next stop
> > > > > > > Malta, Luxor, then Qatar
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> > > > > > >http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66032
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> > > > > > Would be great if we could get a "bird's eye view" of your approaches
> > > > > > and take offs at these remote places.
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> > > > > > Wil
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> > > > > I assume it's not legal to take passengers on these flights. *However,
> > > > > could a second pilot go along even if the aircraft did not technically
> > > > > _require_ two pilots? *I have a feeling many of us would love to have
> > > > > that "once-in-a lifetime" opportunity to ride along on one of these,
> > > > > and perhaps be somewhat helpful to the PIC along the way... ;)
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> > > > > *--Dan
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> > > > A second pilot (Must Be Instrument Rated) can come along and help fly
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> So, you're talking about 5-6AMUs? *That is rather steep, but well
> worth it for the experience and the hours IMO. *I think one will spend
> almost that must just hopping the local airports.
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> What's the reasoning for the second pilot to have instrument rating?
> Isn't having a second pilot a bonus with or without an IR?
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required to pic in ocean crossing. class A FL550 and above.

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In Doha Qatar :-) Luxor was fun the people that have my myspace can
see the photos.

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> Just got up from a few hour nap was a super long flight. next stop
> Malta, Luxor, then Qatar
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> http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N66032