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March 15th 08, 05:25 AM
2 pilots, 1 student pilot, 2 cameras 1 plane = 9 minute video that I
use the split screen feature of Windows Movie Maker where you can see
on the left side outside the plane and the right side what the glide
slope and ILS needles are doing. Pilot got his instrument ticket last
month and this was the first time he got his ticket damp, so he asked
me to come along as a safety pilot.

After landing in Greenwood MS in the last 1.15 minutes as we taxi up
to the FBO, you will see the final resting stop for some airliners
where the planes are disassembled and melted down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRuF5aL8djk

Allen

WingFlaps
March 15th 08, 10:33 AM
On Mar 15, 6:25*pm, " > wrote:
> 2 pilots, 1 student pilot, 2 cameras 1 plane = 9 minute video that I
> use the split screen feature of Windows Movie Maker where you can see
> on the left side outside the plane and the right side what the glide
> slope and ILS needles are doing. Pilot got his instrument ticket last
> month and this was the first time he got his ticket damp, so he asked
> me to come along as a safety pilot.
>
> After landing in Greenwood MS in the last 1.15 minutes as we taxi up
> to the FBO, you will see the final resting stop for some airliners
> where the planes are disassembled and melted down.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRuF5aL8djk
>

If you land fast and don't keep the nosewheel off shimmy is common.

Cheers

Tauno Voipio
March 15th 08, 10:46 AM
wrote:
> 2 pilots, 1 student pilot, 2 cameras 1 plane = 9 minute video that I
> use the split screen feature of Windows Movie Maker where you can see
> on the left side outside the plane and the right side what the glide
> slope and ILS needles are doing. Pilot got his instrument ticket last
> month and this was the first time he got his ticket damp, so he asked
> me to come along as a safety pilot.
>
> After landing in Greenwood MS in the last 1.15 minutes as we taxi up
> to the FBO, you will see the final resting stop for some airliners
> where the planes are disassembled and melted down.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRuF5aL8djk
>
> Allen

Thanks.

Not bad for first time - congratulations to the pilot.

--

Tauno Voipio (CPL(A), OH-PYM)
tauno voipio (at) iki fi

March 15th 08, 02:12 PM
On Mar 15, 5:33*am, WingFlaps > wrote:

> If you land fast and don't keep the nosewheel off shimmy is common.

Very true, and pilot was coming down the ILS a little hotter then I
do. I also think in my limited experiences (yes 7 years is limited
experience!) that the extra weight in the back passenger made the
plane sink faster then the pilot expected, but after landing, he did
the right think and pulled back on the yoke to ease the weight on the
nosewheel.

Person making comment was the student pilot :-) and had never
experienced nose wheel shimmy.

Allen

Matt Whiting
March 15th 08, 02:53 PM
wrote:
> 2 pilots, 1 student pilot, 2 cameras 1 plane = 9 minute video that I
> use the split screen feature of Windows Movie Maker where you can see
> on the left side outside the plane and the right side what the glide
> slope and ILS needles are doing. Pilot got his instrument ticket last
> month and this was the first time he got his ticket damp, so he asked
> me to come along as a safety pilot.
>
> After landing in Greenwood MS in the last 1.15 minutes as we taxi up
> to the FBO, you will see the final resting stop for some airliners
> where the planes are disassembled and melted down.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRuF5aL8djk
>
> Allen

Good glide slope control, marginal localizer control, forgot to deploy
full flaps, lousy camera man! :-)

Seriously, it looks like it was just a tad bumpy that day. It is good
that you are helping a new instrument pilot build his skills.

Matt

Matt Whiting
March 15th 08, 02:54 PM
wrote:
> On Mar 15, 5:33 am, WingFlaps > wrote:
>
>> If you land fast and don't keep the nosewheel off shimmy is common.
>
> Very true, and pilot was coming down the ILS a little hotter then I
> do. I also think in my limited experiences (yes 7 years is limited
> experience!) that the extra weight in the back passenger made the
> plane sink faster then the pilot expected, but after landing, he did
> the right think and pulled back on the yoke to ease the weight on the
> nosewheel.

Yes, and as I commented just a moment ago, it looks like he landed with
10 degrees of flap which would have increased touch down speed as well.

Matt

March 15th 08, 05:22 PM
On Mar 15, 9:53*am, Matt Whiting > wrote:

> Good glide slope control, marginal localizer control, forgot to deploy
> full flaps, lousy camera man! *:-)

Agree on the localizer, you can hear me getting on him to watch the
GPS tracking and pointing to it :-) as he was chasing the needle.
Once I am on the localizer myself, and needle is steady, I line up GPS
desired track and tracking and use that to supplement the localizer.

Regarding flaps, I have had a long discussion elsewhere, and I don't
fuss with flaps either. At the middle marker, I just roll the trim
back and bleed off speed with trim and not change the configuration of
a perfectly steady plane for the remaining 15 seconds of flight. If
it works, my take is don't fix it, and as you know runways with ILS
have plenty of real estate to bleed the speed off and let the plane
settle on it's own.

Yeah, air beat me at my camera abilities LOL, but hey, better then
nothing!

> Seriously, it looks like it was just a tad bumpy that day. *It is good
> that you are helping a new instrument pilot build his skills.

I felt privileged he would ask me :-)

Everybody at KMBO knows I love the looks of the inside of IMC, and
local school likes it when I take a VFR pilot in IMC so they get a
healthier respect to stay out of it. Win win situation for all!

Allen

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