Types of currency

[buttman]

I'm trying to come up with a list of all possible currency
requirements that could possibly be calculated. This is what I have so
far:

SEL general
SEL night
MEL general
MEL night
SEL tailwheel general
SEL tailwheel night
MEL tailwheel general
MEL tailwheel night
SES general
SES night
MES general
MES night

instrument-airplane
instrument-helicopter
instrument-glider

After that it gets kind of confusing. There are a few other
categories, such as Powered Lift, Lighter-Than-Air, Weight-Shift, etc.
But I don't know if single-engine, sea, apply to them.

Is there a such thing as glider currency? Do you have to do 3 landings
within the last 90 days in a glider to carry passengers in a glider?
The FAR's define a glider as a category, but I can't find any mention
of glider currency anywhere on the internet.

Does anyone know of a comprehensive list somewhere that lays out each
and every category/class combo that the FAA recognizes?

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

buttman > wrote in news:0aaa1a3b-bf6c-43ce-9334-
:

> I'm trying to come up with a list of all possible currency


I'd go for yen, the dollar is fjukked.

Bertie

[Vaughn Simon]

"buttman" > wrote in message
...
> I'm trying to come up with a list of all possible currency
> requirements that could possibly be calculated. This is what I have so
> far:
>
> SEL general
> SEL night
> MEL general
> MEL night
> SEL tailwheel general
> SEL tailwheel night
> MEL tailwheel general
> MEL tailwheel night
> SES general
> SES night
> MES general
> MES night
>
> instrument-airplane
> instrument-helicopter
> instrument-glider
>
> After that it gets kind of confusing. There are a few other
> categories, such as Powered Lift, Lighter-Than-Air, Weight-Shift, etc.
> But I don't know if single-engine, sea, apply to them.
>
> Is there a such thing as glider currency?

Currency for carrying passengers is determined by category and class of
aircraft. I can't find where the FAA defines anything called "SEL currency" or
"glider currency", though some may invent such terms for logging purposes.

> Do you have to do 3 landings
> within the last 90 days in a glider to carry passengers in a glider?

Yes. Read 61.57

> The FAR's define a glider as a category, but I can't find any mention
> of glider currency anywhere on the internet.

Speaking respectfully, stop searching the Internet and get familar with your
FAR/AIM. For today's subject, start at 61.57.

Vaughn

[BT]

good answer Vaughn... but the AIM/FAR is on the internet..

as for gliders.. or to carry passengers in anything.. you must be 90 day
current in category and class, and if you are doing it at night.. night
landing current too...
so even if you are 90 current in SEL and not 90 current in glider.. then you
be best to do your 3 pattern tows for three landings.. before taking that
pretty girl up for a glider ride.

B

"Vaughn Simon" > wrote in message
...
>
> "buttman" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I'm trying to come up with a list of all possible currency
>> requirements that could possibly be calculated. This is what I have so
>> far:
>>
>> SEL general
>> SEL night
>> MEL general
>> MEL night
>> SEL tailwheel general
>> SEL tailwheel night
>> MEL tailwheel general
>> MEL tailwheel night
>> SES general
>> SES night
>> MES general
>> MES night
>>
>> instrument-airplane
>> instrument-helicopter
>> instrument-glider
>>
>> After that it gets kind of confusing. There are a few other
>> categories, such as Powered Lift, Lighter-Than-Air, Weight-Shift, etc.
>> But I don't know if single-engine, sea, apply to them.
>>
>> Is there a such thing as glider currency?
>
> Currency for carrying passengers is determined by category and class of
> aircraft. I can't find where the FAA defines anything called "SEL
> currency" or "glider currency", though some may invent such terms for
> logging purposes.
>
>> Do you have to do 3 landings
>> within the last 90 days in a glider to carry passengers in a glider?
>
> Yes. Read 61.57
>
>> The FAR's define a glider as a category, but I can't find any mention
>> of glider currency anywhere on the internet.
>
> Speaking respectfully, stop searching the Internet and get familar with
> your FAR/AIM. For today's subject, start at 61.57.
>
> Vaughn
>
>

[Vaughn Simon]

"BT" > wrote in message
...
> good answer Vaughn... but the AIM/FAR is on the internet..
>
> as for gliders.. or to carry passengers in anything.. you must be 90 day
> current in category and class, and if you are doing it at night.. night
> landing current too...
> so even if you are 90 current in SEL and not 90 current in glider.. then you
> be best to do your 3 pattern tows for three landings.. before taking that
> pretty girl up for a glider ride.
>

Yes, that is exactly the right answer, but I wanted to allow the OP dig for
it just a bit.

[Bob F.]

Don't forget about, 135, 141, 121, ILS -CAT, examiner currency, dispatcher,
CGI, A&E

--
Regards, BobF.
"BT" > wrote in message
...
> good answer Vaughn... but the AIM/FAR is on the internet..
>
> as for gliders.. or to carry passengers in anything.. you must be 90 day
> current in category and class, and if you are doing it at night.. night
> landing current too...
> so even if you are 90 current in SEL and not 90 current in glider.. then
> you be best to do your 3 pattern tows for three landings.. before taking
> that pretty girl up for a glider ride.
>
> B
>
> "Vaughn Simon" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "buttman" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I'm trying to come up with a list of all possible currency
>>> requirements that could possibly be calculated. This is what I have so
>>> far:
>>>
>>> SEL general
>>> SEL night
>>> MEL general
>>> MEL night
>>> SEL tailwheel general
>>> SEL tailwheel night
>>> MEL tailwheel general
>>> MEL tailwheel night
>>> SES general
>>> SES night
>>> MES general
>>> MES night
>>>
>>> instrument-airplane
>>> instrument-helicopter
>>> instrument-glider
>>>
>>> After that it gets kind of confusing. There are a few other
>>> categories, such as Powered Lift, Lighter-Than-Air, Weight-Shift, etc.
>>> But I don't know if single-engine, sea, apply to them.
>>>
>>> Is there a such thing as glider currency?
>>
>> Currency for carrying passengers is determined by category and class of
>> aircraft. I can't find where the FAA defines anything called "SEL
>> currency" or "glider currency", though some may invent such terms for
>> logging purposes.
>>
>>> Do you have to do 3 landings
>>> within the last 90 days in a glider to carry passengers in a glider?
>>
>> Yes. Read 61.57
>>
>>> The FAR's define a glider as a category, but I can't find any mention
>>> of glider currency anywhere on the internet.
>>
>> Speaking respectfully, stop searching the Internet and get familar with
>> your FAR/AIM. For today's subject, start at 61.57.
>>
>> Vaughn
>>
>>
>
>

[buttman]

On Mar 18, 5:25 pm, "Vaughn Simon" >
wrote:
>
> Speaking respectfully, stop searching the Internet and get familar with your
> FAR/AIM. For today's subject, start at 61.57.
>
> Vaughn

I did. I read the whole thing before posting the topic. I don't fly
gliders, but from what I know, it would be weird to just go out, get
towed up and come right back 3 times for the purpose of landing
currency. I figured there might be some kind of exception for gliders,
considering I couldn't find any mention via a google search of anyone
doing such a thing. Same goes for balloon piloting.

But anyways, the reason I made this post is because I'm working of a
webapp similar to logshare, but with a bit more features and a better
UI. I'm currently working on a routine that determines currency for
each category/class/tailwheel combo one could ever need. I'm trying to
get a feel for what is needed and what is not. Should I waste my time
writing a single-engine Powered Life currency routine? Do those even
exist? What about a multi-engine weight-shift currency routine? Glider
night currency? According to the FAR's it should be needed to fly a
glider at night, but do people even fly gliders at night? Do blimp
pilots need 3 landings at night to take passengers at night?

I've only flown airplanes, so when it comes to "exotic" categories,
I'm clueless. I really wish the FAA would publish somewhere a list of
all recognized categories and classes of aircraft...

[buttman]

On Mar 18, 5:05 pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> buttman > wrote in news:0aaa1a3b-bf6c-43ce-9334-
> :
>
> > I'm trying to come up with a list of all possible currency
>
> I'd go for yen, the dollar is fjukked.
>
> Bertie

you have me in stitches, mr bunyip

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

buttman > wrote in news:e51fff55-3100-4ed7-a4ea-
:

> On Mar 18, 5:05 pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> buttman > wrote in news:0aaa1a3b-bf6c-43ce-9334-
>> :
>>
>> > I'm trying to come up with a list of all possible currency
>>
>> I'd go for yen, the dollar is fjukked.
>>
>> Bertie
>
> you have me in stitches, mr bunyip
>

Not yet.

Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

buttman > wrote in
:


> I'm clueless.

I know.

Bertie

[Larry Dighera]

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:04:35 -0700 (PDT), buttman >
wrote:

>Does anyone know of a comprehensive list somewhere that lays out each
>and every category/class combo that the FAA recognizes?


http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=a83ccf8feb7cf9ca938a244f5526f82a&rgn=div5&view=text&node=14:2.0.1.1.2&idno=14#14:2.0.1.1.2.1.1.35
§ 61.57 Recent flight experience: Pilot in command.

[BT]

>
> I did. I read the whole thing before posting the topic. I don't fly
> gliders, but from what I know, it would be weird to just go out, get
> towed up and come right back 3 times for the purpose of landing
> currency. I figured there might be some kind of exception for gliders,
> considering I couldn't find any mention via a google search of anyone
> doing such a thing. Same goes for balloon piloting.
>

The Books says.. category and class...
So as the Good Book Says.. so shall it be..
be current in SEL.. and if you fly your friend down to the glider club for a
soaring flight.. and you are not current in gliders..
you WILL do 3 trips around the pattern solo (or with an instructor), to
complete your three landings in a glider (it is a different category all its
own).. before you take that friend soaring..

no exceptions..

BT
CFIG

[tom418]

Dont's forget Part 63, either, for us few and far between Second Officers :)
"Bob F." > wrote in message
. ..
> Don't forget about, 135, 141, 121, ILS -CAT, examiner currency,
dispatcher,
> CGI, A&E
>
> --
> Regards, BobF.
> "BT" > wrote in message
> ...
> > good answer Vaughn... but the AIM/FAR is on the internet..
> >
> > as for gliders.. or to carry passengers in anything.. you must be 90 day
> > current in category and class, and if you are doing it at night.. night
> > landing current too...
> > so even if you are 90 current in SEL and not 90 current in glider.. then
> > you be best to do your 3 pattern tows for three landings.. before taking
> > that pretty girl up for a glider ride.
> >
> > B
> >
> > "Vaughn Simon" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>
> >> "buttman" > wrote in message
> >>
...
> >>> I'm trying to come up with a list of all possible currency
> >>> requirements that could possibly be calculated. This is what I have so
> >>> far:
> >>>
> >>> SEL general
> >>> SEL night
> >>> MEL general
> >>> MEL night
> >>> SEL tailwheel general
> >>> SEL tailwheel night
> >>> MEL tailwheel general
> >>> MEL tailwheel night
> >>> SES general
> >>> SES night
> >>> MES general
> >>> MES night
> >>>
> >>> instrument-airplane
> >>> instrument-helicopter
> >>> instrument-glider
> >>>
> >>> After that it gets kind of confusing. There are a few other
> >>> categories, such as Powered Lift, Lighter-Than-Air, Weight-Shift, etc.
> >>> But I don't know if single-engine, sea, apply to them.
> >>>
> >>> Is there a such thing as glider currency?
> >>
> >> Currency for carrying passengers is determined by category and class
of
> >> aircraft. I can't find where the FAA defines anything called "SEL
> >> currency" or "glider currency", though some may invent such terms for
> >> logging purposes.
> >>
> >>> Do you have to do 3 landings
> >>> within the last 90 days in a glider to carry passengers in a glider?
> >>
> >> Yes. Read 61.57
> >>
> >>> The FAR's define a glider as a category, but I can't find any mention
> >>> of glider currency anywhere on the internet.
> >>
> >> Speaking respectfully, stop searching the Internet and get familar
with
> >> your FAR/AIM. For today's subject, start at 61.57.
> >>
> >> Vaughn
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>

[Bob F.]

Yes and remember, after conducting a Flight Exam the examiner should always
get his currency. :-)

--
Regards, BobF.
"tom418" > wrote in message
...
> Dont's forget Part 63, either, for us few and far between Second Officers
> :)
> "Bob F." > wrote in message
> . ..
>> Don't forget about, 135, 141, 121, ILS -CAT, examiner currency,
> dispatcher,
>> CGI, A&E
>>
>> --
>> Regards, BobF.
>> "BT" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > good answer Vaughn... but the AIM/FAR is on the internet..
>> >
>> > as for gliders.. or to carry passengers in anything.. you must be 90
>> > day
>> > current in category and class, and if you are doing it at night.. night
>> > landing current too...
>> > so even if you are 90 current in SEL and not 90 current in glider..
>> > then
>> > you be best to do your 3 pattern tows for three landings.. before
>> > taking
>> > that pretty girl up for a glider ride.
>> >
>> > B
>> >
>> > "Vaughn Simon" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >>
>> >> "buttman" > wrote in message
>> >>
> ...
>> >>> I'm trying to come up with a list of all possible currency
>> >>> requirements that could possibly be calculated. This is what I have
>> >>> so
>> >>> far:
>> >>>
>> >>> SEL general
>> >>> SEL night
>> >>> MEL general
>> >>> MEL night
>> >>> SEL tailwheel general
>> >>> SEL tailwheel night
>> >>> MEL tailwheel general
>> >>> MEL tailwheel night
>> >>> SES general
>> >>> SES night
>> >>> MES general
>> >>> MES night
>> >>>
>> >>> instrument-airplane
>> >>> instrument-helicopter
>> >>> instrument-glider
>> >>>
>> >>> After that it gets kind of confusing. There are a few other
>> >>> categories, such as Powered Lift, Lighter-Than-Air, Weight-Shift,
>> >>> etc.
>> >>> But I don't know if single-engine, sea, apply to them.
>> >>>
>> >>> Is there a such thing as glider currency?
>> >>
>> >> Currency for carrying passengers is determined by category and class
> of
>> >> aircraft. I can't find where the FAA defines anything called "SEL
>> >> currency" or "glider currency", though some may invent such terms for
>> >> logging purposes.
>> >>
>> >>> Do you have to do 3 landings
>> >>> within the last 90 days in a glider to carry passengers in a glider?
>> >>
>> >> Yes. Read 61.57
>> >>
>> >>> The FAR's define a glider as a category, but I can't find any mention
>> >>> of glider currency anywhere on the internet.
>> >>
>> >> Speaking respectfully, stop searching the Internet and get familar
> with
>> >> your FAR/AIM. For today's subject, start at 61.57.
>> >>
>> >> Vaughn
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

[Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe]

"BT" > wrote in message
...
<...> >
> you WILL do 3 trips around the pattern solo (or with an instructor), to
> complete your three landings in a glider (it is a different category all
> its own).. before you take that friend soaring..
>
> no exceptions..

It's three Takeoff / landings - not three trips around the pattern. So, I
suspect that you could save a couple tows by doing two touch and go's before
the full stop at the end of the runway, eh?

You touch the main gear down,
you lift the main gear up
You touch the main gear down
and you shake it all around.

Isn't that what it's all about?

--
Geoff
The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.

[Bob F.]

So, if it's one loooong runway, or on a river in a float plane, can you take
off and land, take off and land and take off and land without going around
the pattern to qualify?

--
Regards, BobF.
"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk At Wow Way D0t C0m> wrote in message
news:VsmdnW0lIYN9HHzanZ2dnUVZ_oimnZ2d@wideopenwest .com...
> "BT" > wrote in message
> ...
> <...> >
>> you WILL do 3 trips around the pattern solo (or with an instructor), to
>> complete your three landings in a glider (it is a different category all
>> its own).. before you take that friend soaring..
>>
>> no exceptions..
>
> It's three Takeoff / landings - not three trips around the pattern. So, I
> suspect that you could save a couple tows by doing two touch and go's
> before the full stop at the end of the runway, eh?
>
> You touch the main gear down,
> you lift the main gear up
> You touch the main gear down
> and you shake it all around.
>
> Isn't that what it's all about?
>
> --
> Geoff
> The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
> remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
> When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.

[Vaughn Simon]

"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk At Wow Way D0t C0m> wrote in message
news:VsmdnW0lIYN9HHzanZ2dnUVZ_oimnZ2d@wideopenwest .com...
>
> It's three Takeoff / landings - not three trips around the pattern. So, I
> suspect that you could save a couple tows by doing two touch and go's before
> the full stop at the end of the runway, eh?

Since a full stop is only required for a tailwheel airplane, I suppose that
manuver would meet the letter of the regulation. As an alternative, you could
do an auto tow to liftoff and then do a landing straight ahead...repeat.

Vaughn

[Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe]

"Bob F." > wrote in message
...
> So, if it's one loooong runway, or on a river in a float plane, can you
> take off and land, take off and land and take off and land without going
> around the pattern to qualify?
>

Show me where it says you can't...

And why would you need a looooong runway?

--
Geoff
The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.

[Bob F.]

Just supporting your point that a pattern has nothing to do with it. ;-)
Does three bounces get it? At what point does a bounce become a to /
landing?

--
Regards, BobF.
"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk At Wow Way D0t C0m> wrote in message
news:4cOdnetrusrUC3zanZ2dnUVZ_tOtnZ2d@wideopenwest .com...
> "Bob F." > wrote in message
> ...
>> So, if it's one loooong runway, or on a river in a float plane, can you
>> take off and land, take off and land and take off and land without going
>> around the pattern to qualify?
>>
>
> Show me where it says you can't...
>
> And why would you need a looooong runway?
>
> --
> Geoff
> The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
> remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
> When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.
>
>

[Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe]

"Bob F." > wrote in message
. ..
> Just supporting your point that a pattern has nothing to do with it. ;-)
> Does three bounces get it? At what point does a bounce become a to /
> landing?
>

Far as I know, the regs don't really say...

I couldn't tell you how many times I heard "how many of those are you going
to log?" from my brother...

--
Geoff
The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.

[BT]

why certainly.. but only for the Capt..
B

"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk At Wow Way D0t C0m> wrote in message
news:VsmdnW0lIYN9HHzanZ2dnUVZ_oimnZ2d@wideopenwest .com...
> "BT" > wrote in message
> ...
> <...> >
>> you WILL do 3 trips around the pattern solo (or with an instructor), to
>> complete your three landings in a glider (it is a different category all
>> its own).. before you take that friend soaring..
>>
>> no exceptions..
>
> It's three Takeoff / landings - not three trips around the pattern. So, I
> suspect that you could save a couple tows by doing two touch and go's
> before the full stop at the end of the runway, eh?
>
> You touch the main gear down,
> you lift the main gear up
> You touch the main gear down
> and you shake it all around.
>
> Isn't that what it's all about?
>
> --
> Geoff
> The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
> remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
> When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.

[BT]

as far as I know.. only night landings need to be full stop..
B

"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk At Wow Way D0t C0m> wrote in message
news:e4WdnYKi77J8JHzanZ2dnUVZ_vumnZ2d@wideopenwest .com...
> "Bob F." > wrote in message
> . ..
>> Just supporting your point that a pattern has nothing to do with it. ;-)
>> Does three bounces get it? At what point does a bounce become a to /
>> landing?
>>
>
> Far as I know, the regs don't really say...
>
> I couldn't tell you how many times I heard "how many of those are you
> going to log?" from my brother...
>
> --
> Geoff
> The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
> remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
> When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.

[Don Byrer]

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:04:37 -0700 (PDT), buttman >
wrote:


>I did. I read the whole thing before posting the topic. I don't fly
>gliders, but from what I know, it would be weird to just go out, get
>towed up and come right back 3 times for the purpose of landing
>currency. I figured there might be some kind of exception for gliders,
>considering I couldn't find any mention via a google search of anyone
>doing such a thing. Same goes for balloon piloting.

3 pattern tows...they tow you to pattern altitude and release. It's
good practice....not just for landing, but for flying the pattern too.

Might ask this over in rec.avaition.soaring...


Don Byrer KJ5KB
Radar Tech & Smilin' Commercial Pilot Guy
Glider & CFI wannabe
kj5kb-at-hotmail.com

"I have slipped the surly bonds of earth; now if I can just land without bending the gear..."
"Watch out for those doves...<smack-smack-smack-smack...>"

[Bob F.[_2_]]

When we used to fly out of a nice grass strip in Issaquah WA, before it
closed, we used to pull out, go to about 300', pull the release, do a 180
and land right back in the opposite direction. In fact when I got my
commercial in a glider, I did almost the same but instead of a simple 180,
it was precede by a 360 to meet the requirements. This may sound low but in
a 126 the problem was "getting down" and stopping. I had to do some serious
slipping on a few of them.

--
Regards, BobF.
"Don Byrer" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:04:37 -0700 (PDT), buttman >
> wrote:
>
>
>>I did. I read the whole thing before posting the topic. I don't fly
>>gliders, but from what I know, it would be weird to just go out, get
>>towed up and come right back 3 times for the purpose of landing
>>currency. I figured there might be some kind of exception for gliders,
>>considering I couldn't find any mention via a google search of anyone
>>doing such a thing. Same goes for balloon piloting.
>
> 3 pattern tows...they tow you to pattern altitude and release. It's
> good practice....not just for landing, but for flying the pattern too.
>
> Might ask this over in rec.avaition.soaring...
>
>
> Don Byrer KJ5KB
> Radar Tech & Smilin' Commercial Pilot Guy
> Glider & CFI wannabe
> kj5kb-at-hotmail.com
>
> "I have slipped the surly bonds of earth; now if I can just land without
> bending the gear..."
> "Watch out for those doves...<smack-smack-smack-smack...>"

[JGalban via AviationKB.com]

Bob F. wrote:
>So, if it's one loooong runway, or on a river in a float plane, can you take
>off and land, take off and land and take off and land without going around
>the pattern to qualify?
>

I used to get my night currency at KPHX (after the commercial guys had gone
to bed) without flying patterns. Tower would have me takeoff, turn a 180 at
the end of the runway, land, stop, then throttle up and do it again in the
opposite direction. Three full-stops took about 5 min.

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

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[Bob F.[_2_]]

hmm...seems CTAF, night, after tower closes, recorder still running, all you
need is a radio...you figure the rest.

--
Regards, BobF.
"JGalban via AviationKB.com" <u32749@uwe> wrote in message
news:8172d3204800f@uwe...
> Bob F. wrote:
>>So, if it's one loooong runway, or on a river in a float plane, can you
>>take
>>off and land, take off and land and take off and land without going around
>>the pattern to qualify?
>>
>
> I used to get my night currency at KPHX (after the commercial guys had
> gone
> to bed) without flying patterns. Tower would have me takeoff, turn a 180
> at
> the end of the runway, land, stop, then throttle up and do it again in the
> opposite direction. Three full-stops took about 5 min.
>
> John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)
>
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[B A R R Y[_2_]]

JGalban via AviationKB.com wrote:
> >
> I used to get my night currency at KPHX (after the commercial guys had gone
> to bed) without flying patterns. Tower would have me takeoff, turn a 180 at
> the end of the runway, land, stop, then throttle up and do it again in the
> opposite direction. Three full-stops took about 5 min.

I've done the same. It's fun! <G>

[Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe]

"BT" > wrote in message
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> as far as I know.. only night landings need to be full stop..
> B
>

Also tailwheel.

And having suggested the 3 bounce thing - I wonder if that is the reason for
requiring full stops for a taildragger - it would be real easy to make a
pass down the runway doing several wheelies in a row...

But to get serious for a moment, I would like to make it clear that I am not
suggesting that the 3 bounces are a good idea or anything adequate for
someone who hasn't manged to get out three times in the last 90 days...

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Geoff
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When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.

[BT]

yes also tail wheel..

and I knew you were just having fun with the bounce thing..
B

"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk At Wow Way D0t C0m> wrote in message
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> "BT" > wrote in message
> ...
>> as far as I know.. only night landings need to be full stop..
>> B
>>
>
> Also tailwheel.
>
> And having suggested the 3 bounce thing - I wonder if that is the reason
> for requiring full stops for a taildragger - it would be real easy to make
> a pass down the runway doing several wheelies in a row...
>
> But to get serious for a moment, I would like to make it clear that I am
> not suggesting that the 3 bounces are a good idea or anything adequate for
> someone who hasn't manged to get out three times in the last 90 days...
>
> --
> Geoff
> The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
> remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
> When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.

[Ron Natalie]

buttman wrote:

>
> Does anyone know of a comprehensive list somewhere that lays out each
> and every category/class combo that the FAA recognizes?

Of course, the list is even more confusing in that the TAILWHEEL and
NIGHT cover tricycle gear and day respectively. You could cover all
your single engine (non typed) currency by doing 3 full stop landings
in a tailwheel aircraft at night.