Can anyone I.D. this helicopter please?

[Ricky]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Isi2cwJsp4&feature=related

Thanks,

Ricky

[Gordon[_2_]]

On Mar 20, 12:55*am, Ricky > wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Isi2cwJsp4&feature=related
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ricky

My old pal, the Mi 24 Hind. The apparent stoppage of the rotors is
due to their rotation nearly matching the refresh rate of the video -
not magic. :)

v/r Gordon
former occupier of Hind airspace

[WJRFlyBoy]

On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:07:49 -0700 (PDT), Gordon wrote:

> Mi 24 Hind

The Croc, a sorta Apache/Blackhawk combo. Mean as it looks.
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[Veeduber]

There's occasional sightings of these by travelers on Interstate 15 &
40 in the Mojave Desert. Apparently a contractor operates a couple of
them as war-game material for exercises at the Army's Ft. Irwin (north
of I-15) and the Marine Corps Base at Twentynine Palms (ie, south of
I-40).

-R.S.Hoover

[Ron]

On Mar 20, 3:56 pm, Veeduber > wrote:
> There's occasional sightings of these by travelers on Interstate 15 &
> 40 in the Mojave Desert. Apparently a contractor operates a couple of
> them as war-game material for exercises at the Army's Ft. Irwin (north
> of I-15) and the Marine Corps Base at Twentynine Palms (ie, south of
> I-40).
>
> -R.S.Hoover

I think those are based out by White Sands.

[Chris W]

Gordon wrote:
> On Mar 20, 12:55 am, Ricky > wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Isi2cwJsp4&feature=related
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ricky
>
> My old pal, the Mi 24 Hind. The apparent stoppage of the rotors is
> due to their rotation nearly matching the refresh rate of the video -
> not magic. :)

It's amazing how well in sync the rotors and the camera shutter are.
Does that helicopter have some kind of computer controlled rpm governor?



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[Chris W]

Gordon wrote:
> On Mar 20, 12:55 am, Ricky > wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Isi2cwJsp4&feature=related
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ricky
>
> My old pal, the Mi 24 Hind. The apparent stoppage of the rotors is
> due to their rotation nearly matching the refresh rate of the video -
> not magic. :)

It's amazing how well in sync the rotors and the camera shutter are.
Does that helicopter have some kind of computer controlled rpm governor?



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[William Hung[_2_]]

On Mar 20, 5:56*pm, Veeduber > wrote:
> There's occasional sightings of these by travelers on Interstate 15 &
> 40 in the Mojave Desert. *Apparently a contractor operates a couple of
> them as war-game material for exercises at the Army's Ft. Irwin (north
> of I-15) and the Marine Corps Base at Twentynine Palms (ie, south of
> I-40).
>
> -R.S.Hoover

I remember several years back, before the Ruskies gave up on
Afganistan, The Soldier of Fortune Magazine had offered $1m for anyone
sowing up with one, wether it be friend or foe.

Wil

[Gordon[_2_]]

On Mar 20, 12:14*pm, WJRFlyBoy > wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:07:49 -0700 (PDT), Gordon wrote:
> > Mi 24 Hind
>
> The Croc, a sorta Apache/Blackhawk combo. Mean as it looks.

I haven't seen a Hind called that before - usually, they referred to
them as Gorbach (Hunchback). They had another nickname that escapes
me at the moment.

[Daryl Hunt[_2_]]

"Chris W" > wrote in message
...
> Gordon wrote:
>> On Mar 20, 12:55 am, Ricky > wrote:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Isi2cwJsp4&feature=related
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ricky
>>
>> My old pal, the Mi 24 Hind. The apparent stoppage of the rotors is
>> due to their rotation nearly matching the refresh rate of the video -
>> not magic. :)
>
> It's amazing how well in sync the rotors and the camera shutter are. Does
> that helicopter have some kind of computer controlled rpm governor?

It's a Turbine. It has to have. Usually it regulates somewhere between 93
and 103% depending on what you want it to do. It's a combination of fuel
control and rotor pitch.



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[WJRFlyBoy]

On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:36:32 -0700 (PDT), Gordon wrote:

> On Mar 20, 12:14*pm, WJRFlyBoy > wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:07:49 -0700 (PDT), Gordon wrote:
>>> Mi 24 Hind
>>
>> The Croc, a sorta Apache/Blackhawk combo. Mean as it looks.
>
> I haven't seen a Hind called that before - usually, they referred to
> them as Gorbach (Hunchback). They had another nickname that escapes
> me at the moment.

I heard hunchback but didn't know what it was. Afghan training called
them Crocs, they were mean but also long roll takeoffs and heat to shoot
at all the live long day.
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[WJRFlyBoy]

On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:30:13 -0600, Daryl Hunt wrote:

>>> My old pal, the Mi 24 Hind. The apparent stoppage of the rotors is
>>> due to their rotation nearly matching the refresh rate of the video -
>>> not magic. :)
>>
>> It's amazing how well in sync the rotors and the camera shutter are. Does
>> that helicopter have some kind of computer controlled rpm governor?
>
> It's a Turbine. It has to have. Usually it regulates somewhere between 93
> and 103% depending on what you want it to do. It's a combination of fuel
> control and rotor pitch.

Never saw it but heard several field stories that said they would clip
their own blades on sharp banked turns.
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[Daryl Hunt[_2_]]

"WJRFlyBoy" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:30:13 -0600, Daryl Hunt wrote:
>
>>>> My old pal, the Mi 24 Hind. The apparent stoppage of the rotors is
>>>> due to their rotation nearly matching the refresh rate of the video -
>>>> not magic. :)
>>>
>>> It's amazing how well in sync the rotors and the camera shutter are.
>>> Does
>>> that helicopter have some kind of computer controlled rpm governor?
>>
>> It's a Turbine. It has to have. Usually it regulates somewhere between
>> 93
>> and 103% depending on what you want it to do. It's a combination of fuel
>> control and rotor pitch.
>
> Never saw it but heard several field stories that said they would clip
> their own blades on sharp banked turns.
> --
> Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!
> I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
> just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
> might kill someone.

Never heard of that one. Hmm, thier blades are much more flexible than
ours. But to clip them? Define what you mean by "Clip them".



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[frank]

Hit the tailboom.



On Mar 21, 6:52*am, "Daryl Hunt" > wrote:
> "WJRFlyBoy" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:30:13 -0600, Daryl Hunt wrote:
>
> >>>> My old pal, the Mi 24 Hind. *The apparent stoppage of the rotors is
> >>>> due to their rotation nearly matching the refresh rate of the video -
> >>>> not magic. *:)
>
> >>> It's amazing how well in sync the rotors and the camera shutter are.
> >>> Does
> >>> that helicopter have some kind of computer controlled rpm governor?
>
> >> It's a Turbine. *It has to have. *Usually it regulates somewhere between
> >> 93
> >> and 103% depending on what you want it to do. *It's a combination of fuel
> >> control and rotor pitch.
>
> > Never saw it but heard several field stories that said they would clip
> > their own blades on sharp banked turns.
> > --
> > Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!
> > I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
> > just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
> > might kill someone.
>
> Never heard of that one. *Hmm, thier blades are much more flexible than
> ours. *But to clip them? *Define what you mean by "Clip them".
>
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[Daryl Hunt[_2_]]

"frank" > wrote in message
...

>Hit the tailboom.

Hmm, guess it's possible if the Blades on the thingee going round and round
have enough flex. Just never heard of it before.





On Mar 21, 6:52 am, "Daryl Hunt" > wrote:
> "WJRFlyBoy" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:30:13 -0600, Daryl Hunt wrote:
>
> >>>> My old pal, the Mi 24 Hind. The apparent stoppage of the rotors is
> >>>> due to their rotation nearly matching the refresh rate of the video -
> >>>> not magic. :)
>
> >>> It's amazing how well in sync the rotors and the camera shutter are.
> >>> Does
> >>> that helicopter have some kind of computer controlled rpm governor?
>
> >> It's a Turbine. It has to have. Usually it regulates somewhere between
> >> 93
> >> and 103% depending on what you want it to do. It's a combination of
> >> fuel
> >> control and rotor pitch.
>
> > Never saw it but heard several field stories that said they would clip
> > their own blades on sharp banked turns.
> > --
> > Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!
> > I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
> > just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
> > might kill someone.
>
> Never heard of that one. Hmm, thier blades are much more flexible than
> ours. But to clip them? Define what you mean by "Clip them".
>
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[WJRFlyBoy]

On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:27:56 -0600, Daryl Hunt wrote:

> "frank" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> >Hit the tailboom.
>
> Hmm, guess it's possible if the Blades on the thingee going round and round
> have enough flex. Just never heard of it before.

I never could figure out unless it dropped rearward the top rotor and
there was flex forward in the tail.
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[Daryl Hunt[_2_]]

"WJRFlyBoy" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:27:56 -0600, Daryl Hunt wrote:
>
>> "frank" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> >Hit the tailboom.
>>
>> Hmm, guess it's possible if the Blades on the thingee going round and
>> round
>> have enough flex. Just never heard of it before.
>
> I never could figure out unless it dropped rearward the top rotor and
> there was flex forward in the tail.

Or by hitting ground so hard that the tail cracks upward and the blades are
bent downward. That would do it.



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[WJRFlyBoy]

On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:00:44 -0600, Daryl Hunt wrote:

> "WJRFlyBoy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:27:56 -0600, Daryl Hunt wrote:
>>
>>> "frank" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> >Hit the tailboom.
>>>
>>> Hmm, guess it's possible if the Blades on the thingee going round and
>>> round
>>> have enough flex. Just never heard of it before.
>>
>> I never could figure out unless it dropped rearward the top rotor and
>> there was flex forward in the tail.
>
> Or by hitting ground so hard that the tail cracks upward and the blades are
> bent downward. That would do it.

lol Sure would but it was banking that it would chop its tail rotor, I
dunno, the whole thing is weird but I understand about zip with helis
anyway.
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[Daryl Hunt[_2_]]

"WJRFlyBoy" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:00:44 -0600, Daryl Hunt wrote:
>
>> "WJRFlyBoy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:27:56 -0600, Daryl Hunt wrote:
>>>
>>>> "frank" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> >Hit the tailboom.
>>>>
>>>> Hmm, guess it's possible if the Blades on the thingee going round and
>>>> round
>>>> have enough flex. Just never heard of it before.
>>>
>>> I never could figure out unless it dropped rearward the top rotor and
>>> there was flex forward in the tail.
>>
>> Or by hitting ground so hard that the tail cracks upward and the blades
>> are
>> bent downward. That would do it.
>
> lol Sure would but it was banking that it would chop its tail rotor, I
> dunno, the whole thing is weird but I understand about zip with helis
> anyway.

Maybe it was banking and slipped into the side of a Canyon. (g)



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