Re: Unusual attitude recovery advice sought

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

In addition to all the other good advice you got here, i'll add this.
Recovery should be smooth and deliberate. Not to quick and not too slow,
but above all, smooth. Not so much for the examiner, but for any real life
situation which neccesitates a recovery from an unusual attitude be it imc
or vmc

Bertie

[Barney Rubble]

That's the best advice. I once got into the start of a graveyard spiral on a
VERY turbulent day when I took my eye off the ball for a split second to
tune the radio. When i glanced back I noticed the plane was 90 degrees off
heading and the VSI was pegged downwards. It happened in less than 2
seconds, I kid you not. Instinct took over and I levelled the wings and got
the altitude back on track before the controller even noticed. Boy did I get
the cold chills. I was single pilot in heavy IMC with the rian beating on
the windshield, moderate turb PIREPS all around and minimums below. Not a
goot time to let things slide. I was back on alt and heading before the
controller even noticed.... I'm pleased I practiced UA and smooth control of
the plane.

- Barney

[Ken S. Tucker]

Hi Barney - not :-) - Rubble.

On Apr 3, 9:00 am, "Barney Rubble" > wrote:
> That's the best advice. I once got into the start of a graveyard spiral on a
> VERY turbulent day when I took my eye off the ball for a split second to
> tune the radio. When i glanced back I noticed the plane was 90 degrees off
> heading and the VSI was pegged downwards. It happened in less than 2
> seconds, I kid you not. Instinct took over and I levelled the wings and got
> the altitude back on track before the controller even noticed. Boy did I get
> the cold chills. I was single pilot in heavy IMC with the rian beating on
> the windshield, moderate turb PIREPS all around and minimums below. Not a
> goot time to let things slide. I was back on alt and heading before the
> controller even noticed.... I'm pleased I practiced UA and smooth control of
> the plane.
> - Barney

That's damn interesting. Consider a vortex, we see
them as tornadoes when they actually mature and
touch down to the ground.
But suppose only 1 in a hundred, actually become
mature tornadoes and the rest exist in bad weather,
inside clouds that Barney may have encountered.

There is a lot of different kinds of turbulence, that
could appear in seconds as one flys into a vortex.

I've seen plenty of photo's of little titties on the bottom
of storm clouds, (I think they are usually Nimbo Stratus,
but not always), that dissipated.

That gives me an idea for a new instrument,
something like a "stall buzzer".
If a delta attitude occurs, that is NOT a result of an
control input, then that would warn of either a
weather or structural anomally. Fortunately for
Barney it was a weather anomally.

Don't quite know how to build it yet but that's just
application of ingenuity.
Regards
Ken S. Tucker

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Ken S. Tucker" > wrote in
:

> Hi Barney - not :-) - Rubble.
>
> On Apr 3, 9:00 am, "Barney Rubble" > wrote:
>> That's the best advice. I once got into the start of a graveyard
>> spiral on a VERY turbulent day when I took my eye off the ball for a
>> split second to tune the radio. When i glanced back I noticed the
>> plane was 90 degrees off heading and the VSI was pegged downwards. It
>> happened in less than 2 seconds, I kid you not. Instinct took over
>> and I levelled the wings and got the altitude back on track before
>> the controller even noticed. Boy did I get the cold chills. I was
>> single pilot in heavy IMC with the rian beating on the windshield,
>> moderate turb PIREPS all around and minimums below. Not a goot time
>> to let things slide. I was back on alt and heading before the
>> controller even noticed.... I'm pleased I practiced UA and smooth
>> control of the plane.
>> - Barney
>
> That's damn interesting. Consider a vortex, we see
> them as tornadoes when they actually mature and
> touch down to the ground.
> But suppose only 1 in a hundred, actually become
> mature tornadoes and the rest exist in bad weather,
> inside clouds that Barney may have encountered.
>
> There is a lot of different kinds of turbulence, that
> could appear in seconds as one flys into a vortex.
>
> I've seen plenty of photo's of little titties on the bottom
> of storm clouds, (I think they are usually Nimbo Stratus,
> but not always), that dissipated.
>
> That gives me an idea for a new instrument,
> something like a "stall buzzer".
> If a delta attitude occurs, that is NOT a result of an
> control input, then that would warn of either a
> weather or structural anomally. Fortunately for
> Barney it was a weather anomally.
>
> Don't quite know how to build it yet but that's just
> application of ingenuity.
> Regards
> Ken S. Tucker
>

Good lord, is there nothing you know something about~?

Bertie

[Stefan]

john smith schrieb:

>> I've seen plenty of photo's of little titties on the bottom
>> of storm clouds, (I think they are usually Nimbo Stratus,
>> but not always), that dissipated.
>
> Cumulo Mamatus

Close. Mammatus or mamma is not a cloud, but a special form of the cloud
base. It mostly appears on CBs, but can also appear with any other cloud
form. And yes, it's called mammatus because it resembles mammae, making
it one of the most erotic cloud forms.

So a cumulonimbus mammatus is a cumulonimbus with that special cloud base.

[Ken S. Tucker]

On Apr 3, 11:48 am, Stefan > wrote:
> john smith schrieb:
>
> >> I've seen plenty of photo's of little titties on the bottom
> >> of storm clouds, (I think they are usually Nimbo Stratus,
> >> but not always), that dissipated.
>
> > Cumulo Mamatus
>
> Close. Mammatus or mamma is not a cloud, but a special form of the cloud
> base. It mostly appears on CBs, but can also appear with any other cloud
> form. And yes, it's called mammatus because it resembles mammae, making
> it one of the most erotic cloud forms.
>
> So a cumulonimbus mammatus is a cumulonimbus with that special cloud base.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammatus_cloud
Thanks for the input.
Ken

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On Apr 3, 1:00 pm, "Barney Rubble" > wrote:
> That's the best advice. I once got into the start of a graveyard spiral on a
> VERY turbulent day when I took my eye off the ball for a split second to
> tune the radio. When i glanced back I noticed the plane was 90 degrees off
> heading and the VSI was pegged downwards. It happened in less than 2
> seconds, I kid you not. Instinct took over and I levelled the wings and got
> the altitude back on track before the controller even noticed. Boy did I get
> the cold chills. I was single pilot in heavy IMC with the rian beating on
> the windshield, moderate turb PIREPS all around and minimums below. Not a
> goot time to let things slide. I was back on alt and heading before the
> controller even noticed.... I'm pleased I practiced UA and smooth control of
> the plane.
>
> - Barney

Though I have a reputation as a Luddite, I will chime in that an
autopilot is the best friend a Single Pilot flying IFR can possess.

Even if you hand fly most of the time, it helps plenty to hand over
the straight and level chore for a moment to fetch a chart or write
down a frequency (which hardly ever matches what you're expecting
based on the charts).


Dan Mc

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Ken S. Tucker" > wrote in
:

> On Apr 3, 11:48 am, Stefan > wrote:
>> john smith schrieb:
>>
>> >> I've seen plenty of photo's of little titties on the bottom
>> >> of storm clouds, (I think they are usually Nimbo Stratus,
>> >> but not always), that dissipated.
>>
>> > Cumulo Mamatus
>>
>> Close. Mammatus or mamma is not a cloud, but a special form of the
>> cloud base. It mostly appears on CBs, but can also appear with any
>> other cloud form. And yes, it's called mammatus because it resembles
>> mammae, making it one of the most erotic cloud forms.
>>
>> So a cumulonimbus mammatus is a cumulonimbus with that special cloud
>> base.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammatus_cloud
> Thanks for the input.



Like you;'d know what to do with it,. k00k.






Bertie
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