Bad Day Flying

[Phil J]

If you were this pilot, would you ever get back in the cockpit??

http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=e6ad5e64-5fec-4034-be37-1f95e2207910&#d


Phil

[Larry Dighera]

On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 11:10:08 -0700 (PDT), Phil J
> wrote:

>If you were this pilot, would you ever get back in the cockpit??

With only forty hours in two years, it doesn't appear that he got into
the cockpit very often.

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

Larry Dighera > wrote in
:

> On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 11:10:08 -0700 (PDT), Phil J
> > wrote:
>
>>If you were this pilot, would you ever get back in the cockpit??
>
> With only forty hours in two years, it doesn't appear that he got into
> the cockpit very often.
>
>
>
Good god, you have a talent for missing the point.

Ya know. when I tuned into this group first. I reckoned you to be one of
the steadier heads in it. Srt of a "father's knows best" type figure.
Now I just think you're crazy.


Bertie

[Mortimer Schnerd, RN[_2_]]

Phil J wrote:
> If you were this pilot, would you ever get back in the cockpit??
>
> http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=e6ad5e64-5fec-4034-be37-1f95e2207910&#d


I probably would, but I think I'd try wearing a seat belt the next time.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

[Phil J]

On Apr 5, 5:56*pm, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com>
wrote:
> Phil J wrote:
> > If you were this pilot, would you ever get back in the cockpit??
>
> >http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=e6ad5e64-5fec-4034-....
>
> I probably would, but I think I'd try wearing a seat belt the next time.
>
> --
> Mortimer Schnerd, RN
> mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

He was wearing it, but he somehow managed to 1) go to full throttle,
2) throw the controls to the left, and 3) snag his seat belt buckle
and unlatch it - all at the same time. Not a good thing in an
airplane without doors. If I was him, I think I might get the feeling
that someone up there doesn't want me to fly!

Phil

[Larry Dighera]

On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 16:04:00 -0700 (PDT), Phil J
> wrote:

>He was wearing it, but he somehow managed to 1) go to full throttle,
>2) throw the controls to the left, and 3) snag his seat belt buckle
>and unlatch it - all at the same time. Not a good thing in an
>airplane without doors.

He must have been mighty low to have not suffered significant injury
in the fall.

[Ron Wanttaja]

On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 00:25:18 GMT, Larry Dighera > wrote:

> On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 16:04:00 -0700 (PDT), Phil J
> > wrote:
>
> >He was wearing it, but he somehow managed to 1) go to full throttle,
> >2) throw the controls to the left, and 3) snag his seat belt buckle
> >and unlatch it - all at the same time. Not a good thing in an
> >airplane without doors.
>
> He must have been mighty low to have not suffered significant injury
> in the fall.

AvWeb quotes a local newspaper interview with the pilot, which says "...a
pontoon hit the water, and somehow he accidentally released the buckle of his
safety harness." Sounds like it wasn't much of a vertical drop, but the
horizontal component would have been fun....

Ron Wanttaja

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

Larry Dighera > wrote in
:

> On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 16:04:00 -0700 (PDT), Phil J
> > wrote:
>
>>He was wearing it, but he somehow managed to 1) go to full throttle,
>>2) throw the controls to the left, and 3) snag his seat belt buckle
>>and unlatch it - all at the same time. Not a good thing in an
>>airplane without doors.
>
> He must have been mighty low to have not suffered significant injury
> in the fall.
>

What are you, the "low" police ?

(audience applaud now)


berie

[Jay Honeck[_2_]]

> If you were this pilot, would you ever get back in the cockpit??

Sure. But I'd make sure I had doors on my next seaplane...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Ken S. Tucker]

On Apr 5, 10:10 am, Phil J > wrote:
> If you were this pilot, would you ever get back in the cockpit??
>
> http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=e6ad5e64-5fec-4034-...
> Phil

He has a italian name so he was probably trying
out some insurance scam.
Ken

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

"Ken S. Tucker" > wrote in news:e2011fe6-ceb5-415c-
:

> On Apr 5, 10:10 am, Phil J > wrote:
>> If you were this pilot, would you ever get back in the cockpit??
>>
>> http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=e6ad5e64-5fec-4034-...
>> Phil
>
> He has a italian name so he was probably trying
> out some insurance scam.
> Ken
>

As opposed to being Ken and trying out some scam to make people believe he
actually knoew something about anything.



Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in news:R0WJj.54429$TT4.23058
@attbi_s22:

>> If you were this pilot, would you ever get back in the cockpit??
>
> Sure. But I'd make sure I had doors on my next seaplane...
>
> ;-)

Like you could fly anything that wasn't a chevvy with wings.


Bertie

[muff528]

"Ken S. Tucker" > wrote in message
...
> On Apr 5, 10:10 am, Phil J > wrote:
>> If you were this pilot, would you ever get back in the cockpit??
>>
>> http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=e6ad5e64-5fec-4034-...
>> Phil
>
> He has a italian name so he was probably trying
> out some insurance scam.
> Ken

The Italian name means he's Italian, or descended from one........... not a
dumbass or a Canadian or something.
Oh! I better add this ........ :-)

TonyP, Italian

[Ken S. Tucker]

On Apr 5, 6:49 pm, "muff528" > wrote:
> "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote in ...
>
> > On Apr 5, 10:10 am, Phil J > wrote:
> >> If you were this pilot, would you ever get back in the cockpit??
>
> >>http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=e6ad5e64-5fec-4034-...
> >> Phil
>
> > He has a italian name so he was probably trying
> > out some insurance scam.
> > Ken
>
> The Italian name means he's Italian, or descended from one........... not a
> dumbass or a Canadian or something.
> Oh! I better add this ........ :-)
> TonyP, Italian

Let's not disparage a country full of limey's and frogs,
who are legally dishonest, not my fault the wop's keep
getting caught.
BTW, I think the word "dumbass" is Politically Incorrect.
Ken
PS: I like pizza :-)

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

"Ken S. Tucker" > wrote in
:

> On Apr 5, 6:49 pm, "muff528" > wrote:
>> "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote in
>> messagenews:e2011fe6-ceb5-415c-abf7-bd7b99118b15
@q27g2000prf.googlegro
>> ups.com...
>>
>> > On Apr 5, 10:10 am, Phil J > wrote:
>> >> If you were this pilot, would you ever get back in the cockpit??
>>
>> >>http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=e6ad5e64-5fec-
4034
>> >>-...
>> >> Phil
>>
>> > He has a italian name so he was probably trying
>> > out some insurance scam.
>> > Ken
>>
>> The Italian name means he's Italian, or descended from one...........
>> not a dumbass or a Canadian or something.
>> Oh! I better add this ........ :-)
>> TonyP, Italian
>
> Let's not disparage a country full of limey's and frogs,
> who are legally dishonest, not my fault the wop's keep
> getting caught.
> BTW, I think the word "dumbass" is Politically Incorrect.

Entirely accurate in your case, as is "fjukkktard"


Bertie

[Matt Whiting]

Phil J wrote:
> On Apr 5, 5:56 pm, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com>
> wrote:
>> Phil J wrote:
>>> If you were this pilot, would you ever get back in the cockpit??
>>> http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=e6ad5e64-5fec-4034-...
>> I probably would, but I think I'd try wearing a seat belt the next time.
>>
>> --
>> Mortimer Schnerd, RN
>> mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com
>
> He was wearing it, but he somehow managed to 1) go to full throttle,
> 2) throw the controls to the left, and 3) snag his seat belt buckle
> and unlatch it - all at the same time. Not a good thing in an
> airplane without doors. If I was him, I think I might get the feeling
> that someone up there doesn't want me to fly!

Well, I'm personally pretty skeptical of some aspects of this story and
the accidentally released seat belt is one of them.

Matt

[muff528]

"> BTW, I think the word "dumbass" is Politically Incorrect.

Dam! I thought I was being PC by pretending to be offended. Someone needs to
publish the rules. (As if the usenet isn't already full of PC kops.)
TP

[[email protected]]

On Apr 5, 1:10*pm, Phil J > wrote:
> If you were this pilot, would you ever get back in the cockpit??
>
> http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=e6ad5e64-5fec-4034-...
>
> Phil

A headwind that made the nose rise?

Maybe he meant a gust?

Would I fly again? Hmm. He just bailed out -- inadvertently. But that
was the result of some clumsiness that might ought to be taken as a
warning. Granted, I've made plenty of mistakes flying. I might have to
review my own talents and decide whether what happened was a fluke or
whether maybe it was the result of a general tendency to make
mistakes. If the latter, hang up the goggles, for the Gods have given
a stern warning indeed. Lucky for him the "headwind" didn't happen
over dry land!

I just read in Jimmy Doolittles' book about a fellow who did a
negative G maneuver back in the old days -- had forgotten to fasten
his belt -- and flew right up over the plane. No chute. They named an
airfield after him.

[BT]

sounds like he was on take off, it was an amphibian
B

"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 16:04:00 -0700 (PDT), Phil J
> > wrote:
>
>>He was wearing it, but he somehow managed to 1) go to full throttle,
>>2) throw the controls to the left, and 3) snag his seat belt buckle
>>and unlatch it - all at the same time. Not a good thing in an
>>airplane without doors.
>
> He must have been mighty low to have not suffered significant injury
> in the fall.

[Phil J]

On Apr 6, 7:47*am, Matt Whiting > wrote:
> Phil J wrote:
> > On Apr 5, 5:56 pm, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Phil J wrote:
> >>> If you were this pilot, would you ever get back in the cockpit??
> >>>http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=e6ad5e64-5fec-4034-....
> >> I probably would, but I think I'd try wearing a seat belt the next time..
>
> >> --
> >> Mortimer Schnerd, RN
> >> mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com
>
> > He was wearing it, but he somehow managed to 1) go to full throttle,
> > 2) throw the controls to the left, and 3) snag his seat belt buckle
> > and unlatch it - all at the same time. *Not a good thing in an
> > airplane without doors. *If I was him, I think I might get the feeling
> > that someone up there doesn't want me to fly!
>
> Well, *I'm personally pretty skeptical of some aspects of this story and
> the accidentally released seat belt is one of them.
>
> Matt- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I had that thought too. He might have just forgotten to buckle it.
On the other hand, it is possible that he snagged his sleeve on the
buckle and release it, or released it in some other way.

I don't think this was intentional because it would just be too risky
to fling yourself out of an airplane like that. At the least you
would expect to be seriously injured, at the worst killed outright.
And you wouldn't do it in the middle of a lake. You would do it
within easy swimming distance from the shore.

The article doesn't say whether or not he built the airplane. If he
did, it is hard for me to imagine that someone would go through all
that work and then intentionally destroy the airplane.

Phil

[Ken S. Tucker]

On Apr 6, 5:51 am, "muff528" > wrote:
> "> BTW, I think the word "dumbass" is Politically Incorrect.
>
> Dam! I thought I was being PC by pretending to be offended. Someone needs to
> publish the rules. (As if the usenet isn't already full of PC kops.)
> TP

PC RULE #1:
We don't make fun of retards like Bertie, even though
he is living proof that turkey eggs should be sold in
supermarkets.

Nice airplane in the story. I've seen (and have) water
skiing wipe-outs at 40 mph, it's a case of rolling on
the surface. If true a 67 yo is lucky he didn't break a
few bones smakin the water.
A friend of mine broke his back when the ski rope
broke. His ass hit the water at ~30-35 mph with
rapid deacceleration centered on his lower vertabrae.
Ken

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Ken S. Tucker" > wrote in
:

> On Apr 6, 5:51 am, "muff528" > wrote:
>> "> BTW, I think the word "dumbass" is Politically Incorrect.
>>
>> Dam! I thought I was being PC by pretending to be offended. Someone
>> needs to publish the rules. (As if the usenet isn't already full of
>> PC kops.) TP
>
> PC RULE #1:
> We don't make fun of retards like Bertie, even though
> he is living proof that turkey eggs should be sold in
> supermarkets.

Oh ouch. Anyhow, how do you even know I stil exist Kenny? You have me
killfiled, remember?


>
> Nice airplane in the story. I've seen (and have) water
> skiing wipe-outs at 40 mph, it's a case of rolling on
> the surface. If true a 67 yo is lucky he didn't break a
> few bones smakin the water.
> A friend of mine broke his back when the ski rope
> broke. His ass hit the water at ~30-35 mph with
> rapid deacceleration centered on his lower vertabrae.

Bull****.


Bertie

[[email protected]]

On Apr 6, 12:32 pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote :
>
> > On Apr 6, 5:51 am, "muff528" > wrote:
> >> "> BTW, I think the word "dumbass" is Politically Incorrect.
>
> >> Dam! I thought I was being PC by pretending to be offended. Someone
> >> needs to publish the rules. (As if the usenet isn't already full of
> >> PC kops.) TP
>
> > PC RULE #1:
> > We don't make fun of retards like Bertie, even though
> > he is living proof that turkey eggs should be sold in
> > supermarkets.
>
> Oh ouch. Anyhow, how do you even know I stil exist Kenny? You have me
> killfiled, remember?
>
>
>
> > Nice airplane in the story. I've seen (and have) water
> > skiing wipe-outs at 40 mph, it's a case of rolling on
> > the surface. If true a 67 yo is lucky he didn't break a
> > few bones smakin the water.
> > A friend of mine broke his back when the ski rope
> > broke. His ass hit the water at ~30-35 mph with
> > rapid deacceleration centered on his lower vertabrae.
>
> Bull****.
>
> Bertie

Not likely the deceleration, but the bending and flexing of the
spine as he dug into the water. My back is all messed up from
waterskiing tumbles (and snowskiing wrecks, and lifting too much).
When you're young you're invincible.

Dan

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

wrote in
:

> On Apr 6, 12:32 pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>> "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote
>> innews:aa5a020e-1893-4243-b10f-ef865395ddb1
@x19g2000prg.googlegroups.c
>> om:
>>
>> > On Apr 6, 5:51 am, "muff528" > wrote:
>> >> "> BTW, I think the word "dumbass" is Politically Incorrect.
>>
>> >> Dam! I thought I was being PC by pretending to be offended.
>> >> Someone needs to publish the rules. (As if the usenet isn't
>> >> already full of PC kops.) TP
>>
>> > PC RULE #1:
>> > We don't make fun of retards like Bertie, even though
>> > he is living proof that turkey eggs should be sold in
>> > supermarkets.
>>
>> Oh ouch. Anyhow, how do you even know I stil exist Kenny? You have me
>> killfiled, remember?
>>
>>
>>
>> > Nice airplane in the story. I've seen (and have) water
>> > skiing wipe-outs at 40 mph, it's a case of rolling on
>> > the surface. If true a 67 yo is lucky he didn't break a
>> > few bones smakin the water.
>> > A friend of mine broke his back when the ski rope
>> > broke. His ass hit the water at ~30-35 mph with
>> > rapid deacceleration centered on his lower vertabrae.
>>
>> Bull****.
>>
>> Bertie
>
> Not likely the deceleration, but the bending and flexing of the
> spine as he dug into the water. My back is all messed up from
> waterskiing tumbles (and snowskiing wrecks, and lifting too much).
> When you're young you're invincible.
>

Yeah, I borke my collarbone waterskiing, but let's face it, everythign
Ken says is BS.


Bertie

[Ken S. Tucker]

On Apr 6, 1:45 pm, wrote:
> On Apr 6, 12:32 pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote :
>
> > > On Apr 6, 5:51 am, "muff528" > wrote:
> > >> "> BTW, I think the word "dumbass" is Politically Incorrect.
>
> > >> Dam! I thought I was being PC by pretending to be offended. Someone
> > >> needs to publish the rules. (As if the usenet isn't already full of
> > >> PC kops.) TP
>
> > > PC RULE #1:
> > > We don't make fun of retards like Bertie, even though
> > > he is living proof that turkey eggs should be sold in
> > > supermarkets.
>
> > Oh ouch. Anyhow, how do you even know I stil exist Kenny? You have me
> > killfiled, remember?
>
> > > Nice airplane in the story. I've seen (and have) water
> > > skiing wipe-outs at 40 mph, it's a case of rolling on
> > > the surface. If true a 67 yo is lucky he didn't break a
> > > few bones smakin the water.
> > > A friend of mine broke his back when the ski rope
> > > broke. His ass hit the water at ~30-35 mph with
> > > rapid deacceleration centered on his lower vertabrae.
>
> > Bull****.
>
> > Bertie
>
> Not likely the deceleration, but the bending and flexing of the
> spine as he dug into the water. My back is all messed up from
> waterskiing tumbles (and snowskiing wrecks, and lifting too much).
> When you're young you're invincible.
> Dan

I hear ya, my spines a bit wore-out from putting up
TV towers as a brat a little to quick, (my fault, I hurried).
To be more detailed, my friend had to get a vertebrae
fusion at the base of his back. (I'd wash his back so
I saw the scars).
I guess the technical term might be crushed vertebrae,
but my point is water hit at high speed is hard, anybody
who belly flopped from a few feet knows that.

This fella is quite broad shouldered and stout, so when
his ass hit the water the rapid deacceleration focused
on the lower part of his spine and exceeded design
specifications.
LOL, a skinny assed guy like me would probably skid
across the water and get a free enema.
Ken

[Matt Whiting]

Phil J wrote:
> On Apr 6, 7:47 am, Matt Whiting > wrote:
>> Phil J wrote:
>>> On Apr 5, 5:56 pm, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Phil J wrote:
>>>>> If you were this pilot, would you ever get back in the cockpit??
>>>>> http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=e6ad5e64-5fec-4034-...
>>>> I probably would, but I think I'd try wearing a seat belt the next time.
>>>> --
>>>> Mortimer Schnerd, RN
>>>> mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com
>>> He was wearing it, but he somehow managed to 1) go to full throttle,
>>> 2) throw the controls to the left, and 3) snag his seat belt buckle
>>> and unlatch it - all at the same time. Not a good thing in an
>>> airplane without doors. If I was him, I think I might get the feeling
>>> that someone up there doesn't want me to fly!
>> Well, I'm personally pretty skeptical of some aspects of this story and
>> the accidentally released seat belt is one of them.
>>
>> Matt- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I had that thought too. He might have just forgotten to buckle it.
> On the other hand, it is possible that he snagged his sleeve on the
> buckle and release it, or released it in some other way.
>
> I don't think this was intentional because it would just be too risky
> to fling yourself out of an airplane like that. At the least you
> would expect to be seriously injured, at the worst killed outright.
> And you wouldn't do it in the middle of a lake. You would do it
> within easy swimming distance from the shore.
>
> The article doesn't say whether or not he built the airplane. If he
> did, it is hard for me to imagine that someone would go through all
> that work and then intentionally destroy the airplane.

I'm not suggesting the accident was intentional. I'm just saying the
story seems a little too much and details may have been changed to cover
something such as forgetting to fasten your seatbelt. Certainly,
anything is possible and maybe this happened exactly as described, but
it certainly seems unlikely.

Matt

[[email protected]]

On Apr 6, 3:56 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote:
> On Apr 6, 1:45 pm, wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 6, 12:32 pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>
> > > "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote :
>
> > > > On Apr 6, 5:51 am, "muff528" > wrote:
> > > >> "> BTW, I think the word "dumbass" is Politically Incorrect.
>
> > > >> Dam! I thought I was being PC by pretending to be offended. Someone
> > > >> needs to publish the rules. (As if the usenet isn't already full of
> > > >> PC kops.) TP
>
> > > > PC RULE #1:
> > > > We don't make fun of retards like Bertie, even though
> > > > he is living proof that turkey eggs should be sold in
> > > > supermarkets.
>
> > > Oh ouch. Anyhow, how do you even know I stil exist Kenny? You have me
> > > killfiled, remember?
>
> > > > Nice airplane in the story. I've seen (and have) water
> > > > skiing wipe-outs at 40 mph, it's a case of rolling on
> > > > the surface. If true a 67 yo is lucky he didn't break a
> > > > few bones smakin the water.
> > > > A friend of mine broke his back when the ski rope
> > > > broke. His ass hit the water at ~30-35 mph with
> > > > rapid deacceleration centered on his lower vertabrae.
>
> > > Bull****.
>
> > > Bertie
>
> > Not likely the deceleration, but the bending and flexing of the
> > spine as he dug into the water. My back is all messed up from
> > waterskiing tumbles (and snowskiing wrecks, and lifting too much).
> > When you're young you're invincible.
> > Dan
>
> I hear ya, my spines a bit wore-out from putting up
> TV towers as a brat a little to quick, (my fault, I hurried).
> To be more detailed, my friend had to get a vertebrae
> fusion at the base of his back. (I'd wash his back so
> I saw the scars).
> I guess the technical term might be crushed vertebrae,
> but my point is water hit at high speed is hard, anybody
> who belly flopped from a few feet knows that.
>
> This fella is quite broad shouldered and stout, so when
> his ass hit the water the rapid deacceleration focused
> on the lower part of his spine and exceeded design
> specifications.
> LOL, a skinny assed guy like me would probably skid
> across the water and get a free enema.
> Ken

The enema is likely all you'll get from landing hard on your
tail. Never had one myself but some friends have experienced it.
Landing at high speed just means you bounce along for awhile until
something digs in and twists you around something fierce. That's when
the joints get busted.

Dan

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Ken S. Tucker" > wrote in
:

> On Apr 6, 1:45 pm, wrote:
>> On Apr 6, 12:32 pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote
>> > innews:aa5a020e-1893-4243-b10f-ef865395ddb1
@x19g2000prg.googlegroups
>> > .com:
>>
>> > > On Apr 6, 5:51 am, "muff528" > wrote:
>> > >> "> BTW, I think the word "dumbass" is Politically Incorrect.
>>
>> > >> Dam! I thought I was being PC by pretending to be offended.
>> > >> Someone needs to publish the rules. (As if the usenet isn't
>> > >> already full of PC kops.) TP
>>
>> > > PC RULE #1:
>> > > We don't make fun of retards like Bertie, even though
>> > > he is living proof that turkey eggs should be sold in
>> > > supermarkets.
>>
>> > Oh ouch. Anyhow, how do you even know I stil exist Kenny? You have
>> > me killfiled, remember?
>>
>> > > Nice airplane in the story. I've seen (and have) water
>> > > skiing wipe-outs at 40 mph, it's a case of rolling on
>> > > the surface. If true a 67 yo is lucky he didn't break a
>> > > few bones smakin the water.
>> > > A friend of mine broke his back when the ski rope
>> > > broke. His ass hit the water at ~30-35 mph with
>> > > rapid deacceleration centered on his lower vertabrae.
>>
>> > Bull****.
>>
>> > Bertie
>>
>> Not likely the deceleration, but the bending and flexing of the
>> spine as he dug into the water. My back is all messed up from
>> waterskiing tumbles (and snowskiing wrecks, and lifting too much).
>> When you're young you're invincible.
>> Dan
>
> I hear ya, my spines a bit wore-out from putting up
> TV towers as a brat a little to quick,

Wow, a big step up the ladder frm window washin, eh?


Bertie

[Ken S. Tucker]

On Apr 6, 8:45 pm, wrote:
> On Apr 6, 3:56 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 6, 1:45 pm, wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 6, 12:32 pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>
> > > > "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote :
>
> > > > > On Apr 6, 5:51 am, "muff528" > wrote:
> > > > >> "> BTW, I think the word "dumbass" is Politically Incorrect.
>
> > > > >> Dam! I thought I was being PC by pretending to be offended. Someone
> > > > >> needs to publish the rules. (As if the usenet isn't already full of
> > > > >> PC kops.) TP
>
> > > > > PC RULE #1:
> > > > > We don't make fun of retards like Bertie, even though
> > > > > he is living proof that turkey eggs should be sold in
> > > > > supermarkets.
>
> > > > Oh ouch. Anyhow, how do you even know I stil exist Kenny? You have me
> > > > killfiled, remember?
>
> > > > > Nice airplane in the story. I've seen (and have) water
> > > > > skiing wipe-outs at 40 mph, it's a case of rolling on
> > > > > the surface. If true a 67 yo is lucky he didn't break a
> > > > > few bones smakin the water.
> > > > > A friend of mine broke his back when the ski rope
> > > > > broke. His ass hit the water at ~30-35 mph with
> > > > > rapid deacceleration centered on his lower vertabrae.
>
> > > > Bull****.
>
> > > > Bertie
>
> > > Not likely the deceleration, but the bending and flexing of the
> > > spine as he dug into the water. My back is all messed up from
> > > waterskiing tumbles (and snowskiing wrecks, and lifting too much).
> > > When you're young you're invincible.
> > > Dan
>
> > I hear ya, my spines a bit wore-out from putting up
> > TV towers as a brat a little to quick, (my fault, I hurried).
> > To be more detailed, my friend had to get a vertebrae
> > fusion at the base of his back. (I'd wash his back so
> > I saw the scars).
> > I guess the technical term might be crushed vertebrae,
> > but my point is water hit at high speed is hard, anybody
> > who belly flopped from a few feet knows that.
>
> > This fella is quite broad shouldered and stout, so when
> > his ass hit the water the rapid deacceleration focused
> > on the lower part of his spine and exceeded design
> > specifications.
> > LOL, a skinny assed guy like me would probably skid
> > across the water and get a free enema.
> > Ken
>
> The enema is likely all you'll get from landing hard on your
> tail. Never had one myself but some friends have experienced it.
> Landing at high speed just means you bounce along for awhile until
> something digs in and twists you around something fierce. That's when
> the joints get busted.
> Dan

Best wipe out I've seen: I was spotting in a 65 hp fibre-
glass job, doing about 33 on the speedometer, so into
a tight turn we go. The skier, decides to take the max
circumference, (I've done the same, try to pass the boat),
and dug in for high speed.

Well he's out there doing a whip-lash at maybe 50-60
mph, and his ski's start oscillating...well he flipped
out, and must have rolled over and skipped 3 times
like a skipping stone, before settling into the drink.

He claimed to have dislocated his shoulder, and he
blamed the driver for going too fast, he's a whinner,
the speed was set to 33, I kept checking that.
Ken

[[email protected]]

On Apr 7, 10:58 am, "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote:
> On Apr 6, 8:45 pm, wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 6, 3:56 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 6, 1:45 pm, wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 6, 12:32 pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>
> > > > > "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote :
>
> > > > > > On Apr 6, 5:51 am, "muff528" > wrote:
> > > > > >> "> BTW, I think the word "dumbass" is Politically Incorrect.
>
> > > > > >> Dam! I thought I was being PC by pretending to be offended. Someone
> > > > > >> needs to publish the rules. (As if the usenet isn't already full of
> > > > > >> PC kops.) TP
>
> > > > > > PC RULE #1:
> > > > > > We don't make fun of retards like Bertie, even though
> > > > > > he is living proof that turkey eggs should be sold in
> > > > > > supermarkets.
>
> > > > > Oh ouch. Anyhow, how do you even know I stil exist Kenny? You have me
> > > > > killfiled, remember?
>
> > > > > > Nice airplane in the story. I've seen (and have) water
> > > > > > skiing wipe-outs at 40 mph, it's a case of rolling on
> > > > > > the surface. If true a 67 yo is lucky he didn't break a
> > > > > > few bones smakin the water.
> > > > > > A friend of mine broke his back when the ski rope
> > > > > > broke. His ass hit the water at ~30-35 mph with
> > > > > > rapid deacceleration centered on his lower vertabrae.
>
> > > > > Bull****.
>
> > > > > Bertie
>
> > > > Not likely the deceleration, but the bending and flexing of the
> > > > spine as he dug into the water. My back is all messed up from
> > > > waterskiing tumbles (and snowskiing wrecks, and lifting too much).
> > > > When you're young you're invincible.
> > > > Dan
>
> > > I hear ya, my spines a bit wore-out from putting up
> > > TV towers as a brat a little to quick, (my fault, I hurried).
> > > To be more detailed, my friend had to get a vertebrae
> > > fusion at the base of his back. (I'd wash his back so
> > > I saw the scars).
> > > I guess the technical term might be crushed vertebrae,
> > > but my point is water hit at high speed is hard, anybody
> > > who belly flopped from a few feet knows that.
>
> > > This fella is quite broad shouldered and stout, so when
> > > his ass hit the water the rapid deacceleration focused
> > > on the lower part of his spine and exceeded design
> > > specifications.
> > > LOL, a skinny assed guy like me would probably skid
> > > across the water and get a free enema.
> > > Ken
>
> > The enema is likely all you'll get from landing hard on your
> > tail. Never had one myself but some friends have experienced it.
> > Landing at high speed just means you bounce along for awhile until
> > something digs in and twists you around something fierce. That's when
> > the joints get busted.
> > Dan
>
> Best wipe out I've seen: I was spotting in a 65 hp fibre-
> glass job, doing about 33 on the speedometer, so into
> a tight turn we go. The skier, decides to take the max
> circumference, (I've done the same, try to pass the boat),
> and dug in for high speed.
>
> Well he's out there doing a whip-lash at maybe 50-60
> mph, and his ski's start oscillating...well he flipped
> out, and must have rolled over and skipped 3 times
> like a skipping stone, before settling into the drink.
>
> He claimed to have dislocated his shoulder, and he
> blamed the driver for going too fast, he's a whinner,
> the speed was set to 33, I kept checking that.
> Ken

Pretty tiny boat, to get 33 MPH, with a skier on tow, out of just 65
HP. Especially in the turn. You sure about that?

Dan

[Kloudy via AviationKB.com]

wrote:
>had forgotten to fasten
>his belt -- and flew right up over the plane. No chute. They named an
>airfield after him.

Would that be "KSPLAT" field?

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[Ken S. Tucker]

On Apr 7, 10:17 am, wrote:
> On Apr 7, 10:58 am, "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 6, 8:45 pm, wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 6, 3:56 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 6, 1:45 pm, wrote:
>
> > > > > On Apr 6, 12:32 pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>
> > > > > > "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote :
>
> > > > > > > On Apr 6, 5:51 am, "muff528" > wrote:
> > > > > > >> "> BTW, I think the word "dumbass" is Politically Incorrect.
>
> > > > > > >> Dam! I thought I was being PC by pretending to be offended. Someone
> > > > > > >> needs to publish the rules. (As if the usenet isn't already full of
> > > > > > >> PC kops.) TP
>
> > > > > > > PC RULE #1:
> > > > > > > We don't make fun of retards like Bertie, even though
> > > > > > > he is living proof that turkey eggs should be sold in
> > > > > > > supermarkets.
>
> > > > > > Oh ouch. Anyhow, how do you even know I stil exist Kenny? You have me
> > > > > > killfiled, remember?
>
> > > > > > > Nice airplane in the story. I've seen (and have) water
> > > > > > > skiing wipe-outs at 40 mph, it's a case of rolling on
> > > > > > > the surface. If true a 67 yo is lucky he didn't break a
> > > > > > > few bones smakin the water.
> > > > > > > A friend of mine broke his back when the ski rope
> > > > > > > broke. His ass hit the water at ~30-35 mph with
> > > > > > > rapid deacceleration centered on his lower vertabrae.
>
> > > > > > Bull****.
>
> > > > > > Bertie
>
> > > > > Not likely the deceleration, but the bending and flexing of the
> > > > > spine as he dug into the water. My back is all messed up from
> > > > > waterskiing tumbles (and snowskiing wrecks, and lifting too much).
> > > > > When you're young you're invincible.
> > > > > Dan
>
> > > > I hear ya, my spines a bit wore-out from putting up
> > > > TV towers as a brat a little to quick, (my fault, I hurried).
> > > > To be more detailed, my friend had to get a vertebrae
> > > > fusion at the base of his back. (I'd wash his back so
> > > > I saw the scars).
> > > > I guess the technical term might be crushed vertebrae,
> > > > but my point is water hit at high speed is hard, anybody
> > > > who belly flopped from a few feet knows that.
>
> > > > This fella is quite broad shouldered and stout, so when
> > > > his ass hit the water the rapid deacceleration focused
> > > > on the lower part of his spine and exceeded design
> > > > specifications.
> > > > LOL, a skinny assed guy like me would probably skid
> > > > across the water and get a free enema.
> > > > Ken
>
> > > The enema is likely all you'll get from landing hard on your
> > > tail. Never had one myself but some friends have experienced it.
> > > Landing at high speed just means you bounce along for awhile until
> > > something digs in and twists you around something fierce. That's when
> > > the joints get busted.
> > > Dan
>
> > Best wipe out I've seen: I was spotting in a 65 hp fibre-
> > glass job, doing about 33 on the speedometer, so into
> > a tight turn we go. The skier, decides to take the max
> > circumference, (I've done the same, try to pass the boat),
> > and dug in for high speed.
>
> > Well he's out there doing a whip-lash at maybe 50-60
> > mph, and his ski's start oscillating...well he flipped
> > out, and must have rolled over and skipped 3 times
> > like a skipping stone, before settling into the drink.
>
> > He claimed to have dislocated his shoulder, and he
> > blamed the driver for going too fast, he's a whinner,
> > the speed was set to 33, I kept checking that.
> > Ken
>
> Pretty tiny boat, to get 33 MPH, with a skier on tow, out of just 65
> HP. Especially in the turn. You sure about that?

Pretty much. The boat was a nice 15 footer with
a bit too much flat bottom (Lake of Bays Muskoka)
to handle >1' chop but ok with twink waves.
The 65 Merc would max it out at about 40 mph, also
it had a mid speed prop so it could troll ok and pull
out of the hole with a skier with some nice thrust.

Another buddy had a low HP O/B ~ 80 Hp, with a
high speed prop, on a 14' stilleto, that would get to
50 mph easy.

Nowaday's, the 200 HP's can get 70+ mph, which
is nearly standard, and they're pretty cheap $20K,
for nicely equipt unit.

My fav is a 25 HP Evinrude on 14' Aluminum, quiet,
efficient, and I ski fine behind it. Maxs out at ~ 25
30 mph, depending on how much pizza I ate.

Unfortunately, the motor manufacturers do not
have the varible pitch props I'd need inspite of
my letters to them to get me one.
It's like shifting gears. I pull out out the hole fast,
plane out, shift the prop bite to 2nd, then wham
out to speed slope, to 100 MPH.

I think I'll write a simulator using a paddle boat
to catch lot's of fish, for yummy's, the trolling
is excersize.
Ken

[gatt[_3_]]

wrote:

> I just read in Jimmy Doolittles' book about a fellow who did a
> negative G maneuver back in the old days -- had forgotten to fasten
> his belt -- and flew right up over the plane. No chute. They named an
> airfield after him.

The author of "Lucky ******* Club", a B-17 pilot, recalls a training
mission in which one of the crews was forced to explain how they
returned to the field with the entire top turret missing.

-c

[muff528]

"gatt" > wrote in message
news:wbKdnTZcUch1PGfanZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@integraonlin e...
> wrote:
>
>> I just read in Jimmy Doolittles' book about a fellow who did a
>> negative G maneuver back in the old days -- had forgotten to fasten
>> his belt -- and flew right up over the plane. No chute. They named an
>> airfield after him.
>
> The author of "Lucky ******* Club", a B-17 pilot, recalls a training
> mission in which one of the crews was forced to explain how they returned
> to the field with the entire top turret missing.
>
> -c

My father is also a certificated member of the "Lucky ******* Club". By 1945
many bombardment groups had some version of the "award" for air crewmen who
completed their combat missions. Although the required number of missions
was 35 he only completed 26 combat missions + 3 chowhound/manna missions to
Holland before the war ended. He has a good story about a missing top
turret. He and a crewmate somehow acquired a case of vienna sausages and
since they were the only ones who liked them they finished most of them off
by the time the night was through. The next morning he was sick enough to
remain at the base but he didn't want to make up the missed mission with an
assignment to a strange crew later so he went on the raid. They had to make
up any missed missions so they could finish with their own crew. During the
raid he became physically sick and had to go below to puke. As he was
standing back up into the turret he knocked his helmet off so he had to bend
down to pick it up. Just then a flak burst took out the top turret. It also
wounded the waist gunner (who was sent home afterwards). He says this time
the flak was so close he could smell it. The burst apparently was between
the wing and the stabilizer of the B-17. So, if not for a case of Vienna
Sausages consumed on March 8,1945 in Deopham Green, England neither I nor
any of 5 siblings nor a bunch of grandkids would be around today to not like
them.

Also, today, April 7, 1945, is the 63rd anniversary of the concerted
rammings sometimes known as Sonderkommando Elbe. Much information has been
uncovered in the last few years about this day and a very interesting story
is unfolding as it is pieced together by participants on both sides. The
452nd BG was awarded the Presidential Distinguised Unit Citation for that
mission.

Tony P.

[[email protected]]

On Apr 7, 1:41 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote:

> Unfortunately, the motor manufacturers do not
> have the varible pitch props I'd need inspite of
> my letters to them to get me one.
> It's like shifting gears. I pull out out the hole fast,
> plane out, shift the prop bite to 2nd, then wham
> out to speed slope, to 100 MPH.

If there was anything to be gained it would have been produced
long ago. Variable-pitch marine props tend to be very draggy, since
there's no way to increase or decrease the blade washout at the same
time. Aircraft constant-speed props have much more slip and will
tolerate that.
Increasing the blade angle loads the outer part of the blade
more than the inner. Nearer the hub, the blade has a higher angle due
to its lower tangential speed, and at the tips the angle is much
lower. If we have a blade angle of, say, ten degrees at the tip and 30
at the hub, and increase blade angle ten degrees, we will double the
tip angle but increase the inboard angle only 33%, to 40 degrees. That
drags the inboard area and slows thing down.
I once built a 13' cracker box inboard. Had a Chev Corvette 283
straight-shaft with the Borg-Warner Velvet-drive transmission. 250 HP,
supposedly, but it sure didn't perform like it. After I ran it for a
few years I took the prop off and started analyzing those angles, and
found that it had been repitched to a higher angle. (Itbwas a used
prop). I repitched it to the original factory spec, and boy, did that
boat scramble after that. Then I sold it.

Dan

[[email protected]]

On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 11:10:08 -0700 (PDT), Phil J
> wrote:

>If you were this pilot, would you ever get back in the cockpit??
>
>http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=e6ad5e64-5fec-4034-be37-1f95e2207910&#d

Plainly put, **** happens. Some just get back on the horse learning
from their mistakes, others never go near the horse again, while some
learn nothing and get back on any way. Remember "Ignorance is bliss".


>
>
>Phil
Roger (K8RI) ARRL Life Member
N833R (World's oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

[Ken S. Tucker]

On Apr 7, 9:32 pm, wrote:
> On Apr 7, 1:41 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately, the motor manufacturers do not
> > have the varible pitch props I'd need inspite of
> > my letters to them to get me one.
> > It's like shifting gears. I pull out out the hole fast,
> > plane out, shift the prop bite to 2nd, then wham
> > out to speed slope, to 100 MPH.
>
> If there was anything to be gained it would have been produced
> long ago. Variable-pitch marine props tend to be very draggy, since
> there's no way to increase or decrease the blade washout at the same
> time. Aircraft constant-speed props have much more slip and will
> tolerate that.

Yeah, my rule of thumb, H20 is 800x more dense
than air.

> Increasing the blade angle loads the outer part of the blade
> more than the inner. Nearer the hub, the blade has a higher angle due
> to its lower tangential speed, and at the tips the angle is much
> lower. If we have a blade angle of, say, ten degrees at the tip and 30
> at the hub, and increase blade angle ten degrees, we will double the
> tip angle but increase the inboard angle only 33%, to 40 degrees. That
> drags the inboard area and slows thing down.

Yup.

> I once built a 13' cracker box inboard. Had a Chev Corvette 283
> straight-shaft with the Borg-Warner Velvet-drive transmission. 250 HP,
> supposedly, but it sure didn't perform like it. After I ran it for a
> few years I took the prop off and started analyzing those angles, and
> found that it had been repitched to a higher angle. (Itbwas a used
> prop). I repitched it to the original factory spec, and boy, did that
> boat scramble after that. Then I sold it.

A friend of ours used 2 props, one for trolling (slow)
and one for skiing (mid speed), swapping props is
fairly easy.
When you get into a class that you (Dan) describe,
there is a lot of aerodynamics, you may want canards!
Ken

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Ken S. Tucker" > wrote in
:

> On Apr 6, 8:45 pm, wrote:
>> On Apr 6, 3:56 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 6, 1:45 pm, wrote:
>>
>> > > On Apr 6, 12:32 pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>>
>> > > > "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote
>> > > > innews:aa5a020e-1893-4243-b10f-ef865395ddb1
@x19g2000prg.googlegr
>> > > > oups.com:
>>
>> > > > > On Apr 6, 5:51 am, "muff528" > wrote:
>> > > > >> "> BTW, I think the word "dumbass" is Politically Incorrect.
>>
>> > > > >> Dam! I thought I was being PC by pretending to be offended.
>> > > > >> Someone needs to publish the rules. (As if the usenet isn't
>> > > > >> already full of PC kops.) TP
>>
>> > > > > PC RULE #1:
>> > > > > We don't make fun of retards like Bertie, even though
>> > > > > he is living proof that turkey eggs should be sold in
>> > > > > supermarkets.
>>
>> > > > Oh ouch. Anyhow, how do you even know I stil exist Kenny? You
>> > > > have me killfiled, remember?
>>
>> > > > > Nice airplane in the story. I've seen (and have) water
>> > > > > skiing wipe-outs at 40 mph, it's a case of rolling on
>> > > > > the surface. If true a 67 yo is lucky he didn't break a
>> > > > > few bones smakin the water.
>> > > > > A friend of mine broke his back when the ski rope
>> > > > > broke. His ass hit the water at ~30-35 mph with
>> > > > > rapid deacceleration centered on his lower vertabrae.
>>
>> > > > Bull****.
>>
>> > > > Bertie
>>
>> > > Not likely the deceleration, but the bending and flexing of
>> > > the
>> > > spine as he dug into the water. My back is all messed up from
>> > > waterskiing tumbles (and snowskiing wrecks, and lifting too
>> > > much). When you're young you're invincible.
>> > > Dan
>>
>> > I hear ya, my spines a bit wore-out from putting up
>> > TV towers as a brat a little to quick, (my fault, I hurried).
>> > To be more detailed, my friend had to get a vertebrae
>> > fusion at the base of his back. (I'd wash his back so
>> > I saw the scars).
>> > I guess the technical term might be crushed vertebrae,
>> > but my point is water hit at high speed is hard, anybody
>> > who belly flopped from a few feet knows that.
>>
>> > This fella is quite broad shouldered and stout, so when
>> > his ass hit the water the rapid deacceleration focused
>> > on the lower part of his spine and exceeded design
>> > specifications.
>> > LOL, a skinny assed guy like me would probably skid
>> > across the water and get a free enema.
>> > Ken
>>
>> The enema is likely all you'll get from landing hard on your
>> tail. Never had one myself but some friends have experienced it.
>> Landing at high speed just means you bounce along for awhile until
>> something digs in and twists you around something fierce. That's when
>> the joints get busted.
>> Dan
>
> Best wipe out I've seen: I was spotting in a 65 hp fibre-
> glass job, doing about 33 on the speedometer, so into
> a tight turn we go. The skier, decides to take the max
> circumference, (I've done the same, try to pass the boat),
> and dug in for high speed.
>
> Well he's out there doing a whip-lash at maybe 50-60
> mph, and his ski's start oscillating...well he flipped
> out, and must have rolled over and skipped 3 times
> like a skipping stone, before settling into the drink.
>
> He claimed to have dislocated his shoulder, and he
> blamed the driver for going too fast, he's a whinner,
> the speed was set to 33, I kept checking that.

You're a hero.


Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Ken S. Tucker" > wrote in
:

> On Apr 7, 10:17 am, wrote:
>> On Apr 7, 10:58 am, "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 6, 8:45 pm, wrote:
>>
>> > > On Apr 6, 3:56 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote:
>>
>> > > > On Apr 6, 1:45 pm, wrote:
>>
>> > > > > On Apr 6, 12:32 pm, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote
>> > > > > > innews:aa5a020e-1893-4243-b10f-ef865395ddb1
@x19g2000prg.goog
>> > > > > > legroups.com:
>>
>> > > > > > > On Apr 6, 5:51 am, "muff528" >
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> "> BTW, I think the word "dumbass" is Politically
>> > > > > > >> Incorrect.
>>
>> > > > > > >> Dam! I thought I was being PC by pretending to be
>> > > > > > >> offended. Someone needs to publish the rules. (As if the
>> > > > > > >> usenet isn't already full of PC kops.) TP
>>
>> > > > > > > PC RULE #1:
>> > > > > > > We don't make fun of retards like Bertie, even though
>> > > > > > > he is living proof that turkey eggs should be sold in
>> > > > > > > supermarkets.
>>
>> > > > > > Oh ouch. Anyhow, how do you even know I stil exist Kenny?
>> > > > > > You have me killfiled, remember?
>>
>> > > > > > > Nice airplane in the story. I've seen (and have) water
>> > > > > > > skiing wipe-outs at 40 mph, it's a case of rolling on
>> > > > > > > the surface. If true a 67 yo is lucky he didn't break a
>> > > > > > > few bones smakin the water.
>> > > > > > > A friend of mine broke his back when the ski rope
>> > > > > > > broke. His ass hit the water at ~30-35 mph with
>> > > > > > > rapid deacceleration centered on his lower vertabrae.
>>
>> > > > > > Bull****.
>>
>> > > > > > Bertie
>>
>> > > > > Not likely the deceleration, but the bending and flexing
>> > > > > of the
>> > > > > spine as he dug into the water. My back is all messed up from
>> > > > > waterskiing tumbles (and snowskiing wrecks, and lifting too
>> > > > > much). When you're young you're invincible.
>> > > > > Dan
>>
>> > > > I hear ya, my spines a bit wore-out from putting up
>> > > > TV towers as a brat a little to quick, (my fault, I hurried).
>> > > > To be more detailed, my friend had to get a vertebrae
>> > > > fusion at the base of his back. (I'd wash his back so
>> > > > I saw the scars).
>> > > > I guess the technical term might be crushed vertebrae,
>> > > > but my point is water hit at high speed is hard, anybody
>> > > > who belly flopped from a few feet knows that.
>>
>> > > > This fella is quite broad shouldered and stout, so when
>> > > > his ass hit the water the rapid deacceleration focused
>> > > > on the lower part of his spine and exceeded design
>> > > > specifications.
>> > > > LOL, a skinny assed guy like me would probably skid
>> > > > across the water and get a free enema.
>> > > > Ken
>>
>> > > The enema is likely all you'll get from landing hard on
>> > > your
>> > > tail. Never had one myself but some friends have experienced it.
>> > > Landing at high speed just means you bounce along for awhile
>> > > until something digs in and twists you around something fierce.
>> > > That's when the joints get busted.
>> > > Dan
>>
>> > Best wipe out I've seen: I was spotting in a 65 hp fibre-
>> > glass job, doing about 33 on the speedometer, so into
>> > a tight turn we go. The skier, decides to take the max
>> > circumference, (I've done the same, try to pass the boat),
>> > and dug in for high speed.
>>
>> > Well he's out there doing a whip-lash at maybe 50-60
>> > mph, and his ski's start oscillating...well he flipped
>> > out, and must have rolled over and skipped 3 times
>> > like a skipping stone, before settling into the drink.
>>
>> > He claimed to have dislocated his shoulder, and he
>> > blamed the driver for going too fast, he's a whinner,
>> > the speed was set to 33, I kept checking that.
>> > Ken
>>
>> Pretty tiny boat, to get 33 MPH, with a skier on tow, out of just 65
>> HP. Especially in the turn. You sure about that?
>
> Pretty much. The boat was a nice 15 footer with
> a bit too much flat bottom (Lake of Bays Muskoka)
> to handle >1' chop but ok with twink waves.
> The 65 Merc would max it out at about 40 mph, also
> it had a mid speed prop so it could troll ok and pull
> out of the hole with a skier with some nice thrust.
>
> Another buddy had a low HP O/B ~ 80 Hp, with a
> high speed prop, on a 14' stilleto, that would get to
> 50 mph easy.
>
> Nowaday's, the 200 HP's can get 70+ mph, which
> is nearly standard, and they're pretty cheap $20K,
> for nicely equipt unit.
>
> My fav is a 25 HP Evinrude on 14' Aluminum, quiet,
> efficient, and I ski fine behind it. Maxs out at ~ 25
> 30 mph, depending on how much pizza I ate.
>
> Unfortunately, the motor manufacturers do not
> have the varible pitch props I'd need inspite of
> my letters to them to get me one.
> It's like shifting gears. I pull out out the hole fast,
> plane out, shift the prop bite to 2nd, then wham
> out to speed slope, to 100 MPH.
>
> I think I'll write a simulator using a paddle boat
> to catch lot's of fish, for yummy's, the trolling
> is excersize.
> Ken
>

Yes, and you can sel it to the military afterwards.


Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Ken S. Tucker" > wrote in news:51c3498a-206f-
:

> On Apr 7, 9:32 pm, wrote:
>> On Apr 7, 1:41 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" > wrote:
>>
>> > Unfortunately, the motor manufacturers do not
>> > have the varible pitch props I'd need inspite of
>> > my letters to them to get me one.
>> > It's like shifting gears. I pull out out the hole fast,
>> > plane out, shift the prop bite to 2nd, then wham
>> > out to speed slope, to 100 MPH.
>>
>> If there was anything to be gained it would have been
produced
>> long ago. Variable-pitch marine props tend to be very draggy, since
>> there's no way to increase or decrease the blade washout at the same
>> time. Aircraft constant-speed props have much more slip and will
>> tolerate that.
>
> Yeah, my rule of thumb, H20 is 800x more dense
> than air.
>
>> Increasing the blade angle loads the outer part of the blade
>> more than the inner. Nearer the hub, the blade has a higher angle due
>> to its lower tangential speed, and at the tips the angle is much
>> lower. If we have a blade angle of, say, ten degrees at the tip and
30
>> at the hub, and increase blade angle ten degrees, we will double the
>> tip angle but increase the inboard angle only 33%, to 40 degrees.
That
>> drags the inboard area and slows thing down.
>
> Yup.
>
>> I once built a 13' cracker box inboard. Had a Chev Corvette 283
>> straight-shaft with the Borg-Warner Velvet-drive transmission. 250
HP,
>> supposedly, but it sure didn't perform like it. After I ran it for a
>> few years I took the prop off and started analyzing those angles, and
>> found that it had been repitched to a higher angle. (Itbwas a used
>> prop). I repitched it to the original factory spec, and boy, did that
>> boat scramble after that. Then I sold it.
>
> A friend of ours used 2 props, one for trolling (slow)
> and one for skiing (mid speed), swapping props is
> fairly easy.
> When you get into a class that you (Dan) describe,
> there is a lot of aerodynamics, you may want canards!
> Ken
>


God you're an idiot.


Bertie

[george]

On Apr 7, 6:32 am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:

> Oh ouch. Anyhow, how do you even know I stil exist Kenny? You have me
> killfiled, remember?
>

Great things those kook killfiles.
Only work on a wet Wednesday in a following wind

[Morgans[_2_]]

"george" > wrote in message
...
> On Apr 7, 6:32 am, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
>
>> Oh ouch. Anyhow, how do you even know I stil exist Kenny? You have me
>> killfiled, remember?
>>
>
> Great things those kook killfiles.
> Only work on a wet Wednesday in a following wind

E'spleschelie since he changed identities about ten times in two days,
trying to **** off people that repeatedly told him he was in their kill
files.

That's a dedicated troll, I think.
--
Jim in NC

[Jay Honeck[_2_]]

> E'spleschelie since he changed identities about ten times in two days,
> trying to **** off people that repeatedly told him he was in their kill
> files.
>
> That's a dedicated troll, I think.

Nope -- just another indication of mental illness.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in news:WxdLj.113441
$yE1.59557@attbi_s21:

>> E'spleschelie since he changed identities about ten times in two days,
>> trying to **** off people that repeatedly told him he was in their kill
>> files.
>>
>> That's a dedicated troll, I think.
>
> Nope -- just another indication of mental illness.


Good grief.



Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in news:WxdLj.113441
>> $yE1.59557@attbi_s21:
>>
>>>> E'spleschelie since he changed identities about ten times in two
>>>> days, trying to **** off people that repeatedly told him he was in
>>>> their kill files.
>>>>
>>>> That's a dedicated troll, I think.
>>>
>>> Nope -- just another indication of mental illness.
>>
>>
>> Good grief.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> ****, why not?
>
> 61
>
>
>

Well, @i can think of several reasons, but that'd be telling, of course.



Bertie

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
.. .
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in news:WxdLj.113441
> $yE1.59557@attbi_s21:
>
>>> E'spleschelie since he changed identities about ten times in two days,
>>> trying to **** off people that repeatedly told him he was in their kill
>>> files.
>>>
>>> That's a dedicated troll, I think.
>>
>> Nope -- just another indication of mental illness.
>
>
> Good grief.
>
>
>
> Bertie

****, why not?

61

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
.. .
> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
> :
>
>>
>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in news:WxdLj.113441
>>> $yE1.59557@attbi_s21:
>>>
>>>>> E'spleschelie since he changed identities about ten times in two
>>>>> days, trying to **** off people that repeatedly told him he was in
>>>>> their kill files.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a dedicated troll, I think.
>>>>
>>>> Nope -- just another indication of mental illness.
>>>
>>>
>>> Good grief.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bertie
>>
>> ****, why not?
>>
>> 61
>>
>>
>>
>
> Well, @i can think of several reasons, but that'd be telling, of course.
>
>
>
> Bertie

74

[[email protected]]

On Apr 5, 11:10 am, Phil J > wrote:
> If you were this pilot, would you ever get back in the cockpit??
>
> http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=e6ad5e64-5fec-4034-...
>
> Phil


Well, for me, the only bad day flying is the day you don't survive.



Adam

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[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:uqeLj.27078$KJ1.2561
@newsfe19.lga:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>> :
>>
>>>
>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>> .. .
>>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in news:WxdLj.113441
>>>> $yE1.59557@attbi_s21:
>>>>
>>>>>> E'spleschelie since he changed identities about ten times in two
>>>>>> days, trying to **** off people that repeatedly told him he was
in
>>>>>> their kill files.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's a dedicated troll, I think.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope -- just another indication of mental illness.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good grief.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bertie
>>>
>>> ****, why not?
>>>
>>> 61
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well, @i can think of several reasons, but that'd be telling, of
course.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> 74
>
>
>

Nope.

Bertie

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:uqeLj.27078$KJ1.2561
> @newsfe19.lga:
>
>>
>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>>> :
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>> .. .
>>>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in news:WxdLj.113441
>>>>> $yE1.59557@attbi_s21:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> E'spleschelie since he changed identities about ten times in two
>>>>>>> days, trying to **** off people that repeatedly told him he was
> in
>>>>>>> their kill files.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's a dedicated troll, I think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope -- just another indication of mental illness.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good grief.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bertie
>>>>
>>>> ****, why not?
>>>>
>>>> 61
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, @i can think of several reasons, but that'd be telling, of
> course.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bertie
>>
>> 74
>>
>>
>>
>
> Nope.
>
> Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:6vzLj.59119$yk5.55417
@newsfe18.lga:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:uqeLj.27078$KJ1.2561
>> @newsfe19.lga:
>>
>>>
>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>> .. .
>>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>> .. .
>>>>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
news:WxdLj.113441
>>>>>> $yE1.59557@attbi_s21:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> E'spleschelie since he changed identities about ten times in
two
>>>>>>>> days, trying to **** off people that repeatedly told him he was
>> in
>>>>>>>> their kill files.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's a dedicated troll, I think.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope -- just another indication of mental illness.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good grief.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>
>>>>> ****, why not?
>>>>>
>>>>> 61
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, @i can think of several reasons, but that'd be telling, of
>> course.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bertie
>>>
>>> 74
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Nope.
>>
>> Bertie
>
>
>

Still nope.


Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

gregvk > wrote in
. 1:

> Bertie the Bunyip > wrote in news:ftmgn7$pqe$13
> @blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
>
>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:6vzLj.59119$yk5.55417
>> @newsfe18.lga:
>>
>>>
>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:uqeLj.27078$KJ1.2561
>>>> @newsfe19.lga:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>> .. .
>>>>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> .. .
>>>>>>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
>> news:WxdLj.113441
>>>>>>>> $yE1.59557@attbi_s21:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> E'spleschelie since he changed identities about ten times in
>> two
>>>>>>>>>> days, trying to **** off people that repeatedly told him he
was
>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> their kill files.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's a dedicated troll, I think.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nope -- just another indication of mental illness.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good grief.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ****, why not?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 61
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, @i can think of several reasons, but that'd be telling, of
>>>> course.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>
>>>>> 74
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>>> Bertie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Still nope.
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> That's some pretty cutting-edge stuff he's posting. I don't know how
he
> comes up with such amazing concepts and then manages to express them
so
> eloquently. But then, I'm not an ubergenius like he is.
>

Next, he'll stop posting altogether. That'll show me.


Bertie

[John \C\]

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
> gregvk > wrote in
> . 1:
>
> > Bertie the Bunyip > wrote in news:ftmgn7$pqe$13
> > @blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
> >
> >> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:6vzLj.59119$yk5.55417
> >> @newsfe18.lga:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
news:uqeLj.27078$KJ1.2561
> >>>> @newsfe19.lga:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> >>>>> .. .
> >>>>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
> >>>>>> :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> >>>>>>> .. .
> >>>>>>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
> >> news:WxdLj.113441
> >>>>>>>> $yE1.59557@attbi_s21:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> E'spleschelie since he changed identities about ten times
in
> >> two
> >>>>>>>>>> days, trying to **** off people that repeatedly told him he
> was
> >>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>> their kill files.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> That's a dedicated troll, I think.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Nope -- just another indication of mental illness.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Good grief.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Bertie
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ****, why not?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 61
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Well, @i can think of several reasons, but that'd be telling,
of
> >>>> course.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Bertie
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 74
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Nope.
> >>>>
> >>>> Bertie
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Still nope.
> >>
> >>
> >> Bertie
> >
> > That's some pretty cutting-edge stuff he's posting. I don't know
how
> he
> > comes up with such amazing concepts and then manages to express them
> so
> > eloquently. But then, I'm not an ubergenius like he is.
>
> Next, he'll stop posting altogether. That'll show me.
>
> Bertie

It's amazing just how often that happens.

HJ

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"John \"C\"" > wrote in news:SPSdnafZ-YjU_
:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>> gregvk > wrote in
>> . 1:
>>
>> > Bertie the Bunyip > wrote in news:ftmgn7$pqe$13
>> > @blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
>> >
>> >> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:6vzLj.59119
$yk5.55417
>> >> @newsfe18.lga:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>> >>> ...
>> >>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
> news:uqeLj.27078$KJ1.2561
>> >>>> @newsfe19.lga:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>> >>>>> .. .
>> >>>>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>> >>>>>> :
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>> >>>>>>> .. .
>> >>>>>>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
>> >> news:WxdLj.113441
>> >>>>>>>> $yE1.59557@attbi_s21:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> E'spleschelie since he changed identities about ten times
> in
>> >> two
>> >>>>>>>>>> days, trying to **** off people that repeatedly told him
he
>> was
>> >>>> in
>> >>>>>>>>>> their kill files.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> That's a dedicated troll, I think.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Nope -- just another indication of mental illness.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Good grief.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Bertie
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> ****, why not?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> 61
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Well, @i can think of several reasons, but that'd be telling,
> of
>> >>>> course.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Bertie
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 74
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Nope.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Bertie
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Still nope.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Bertie
>> >
>> > That's some pretty cutting-edge stuff he's posting. I don't know
> how
>> he
>> > comes up with such amazing concepts and then manages to express
them
>> so
>> > eloquently. But then, I'm not an ubergenius like he is.
>>
>> Next, he'll stop posting altogether. That'll show me.
>>
>> Bertie
>
> It's amazing just how often that happens.
>
> HJ
>
>

You'd be amazed at how often it doesn't.

Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

gregvk > wrote in
. 1:

> Bertie the Bunyip > wrote in news:fto06p$f76$2
> @blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
>
>> "John \"C\"" > wrote in news:SPSdnafZ-YjU_
>> :
>>
>>>
>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> gregvk > wrote in
>>>> . 1:
>>>>
>>>> > Bertie the Bunyip > wrote in news:ftmgn7$pqe$13
>>>> > @blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
>>>> >
>>>> >> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:6vzLj.59119
>> $yk5.55417
>>>> >> @newsfe18.lga:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>> >>> ...
>>>> >>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>>> news:uqeLj.27078$KJ1.2561
>>>> >>>> @newsfe19.lga:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>> >>>>> .. .
>>>> >>>>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>>>> >>>>>> :
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>> >>>>>>> .. .
>>>> >>>>>>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
>>>> >> news:WxdLj.113441
>>>> >>>>>>>> $yE1.59557@attbi_s21:
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> E'spleschelie since he changed identities about ten
times
>>> in
>>>> >> two
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> days, trying to **** off people that repeatedly told him
>> he
>>>> was
>>>> >>>> in
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> their kill files.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That's a dedicated troll, I think.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nope -- just another indication of mental illness.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Good grief.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Bertie
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> ****, why not?
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> 61
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Well, @i can think of several reasons, but that'd be
telling,
>>> of
>>>> >>>> course.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Bertie
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> 74
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Nope.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Bertie
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Still nope.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Bertie
>>>> >
>>>> > That's some pretty cutting-edge stuff he's posting. I don't know
>>> how
>>>> he
>>>> > comes up with such amazing concepts and then manages to express
>> them
>>>> so
>>>> > eloquently. But then, I'm not an ubergenius like he is.
>>>>
>>>> Next, he'll stop posting altogether. That'll show me.
>>>>
>>>> Bertie
>>>
>>> It's amazing just how often that happens.
>>>
>>> HJ
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You'd be amazed at how often it doesn't.
>>
>> Bertie
>
> /sniffsniff
>
> You smell that? That's ozone. It's formed by the extremely high
neural
> activity in Maxwell's head, and indicates that he likely has an IQ
that
> exceeds 1000. Seriously. I wasn't ****ing kidding when I suggested
he
> could power kitchen appliances with mere brainwaves.
>

Cool, i bet he's a big scorer on "Big Brain Academy" too!

Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

gregvk > wrote in
.0.1:

> Bertie the Bunyip > wrote in news:ftocdl$d0a$1
> @blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
>
>> gregvk > wrote in
>> . 1:
>>
>>> Bertie the Bunyip > wrote in news:fto06p$f76$2
>>> @blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
>>>
>>>> "John \"C\"" > wrote in news:SPSdnafZ-
YjU_
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> gregvk > wrote in
>>>>>> . 1:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Bertie the Bunyip > wrote in news:ftmgn7$pqe$13
>>>>>> > @blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:6vzLj.59119
>>>> $yk5.55417
>>>>>> >> @newsfe18.lga:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>>> >>> ...
>>>>>> >>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>>>>> news:uqeLj.27078$KJ1.2561
>>>>>> >>>> @newsfe19.lga:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>>> >>>>> .. .
>>>>>> >>>>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>>>>>> >>>>>> :
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>>> >>>>>>> .. .
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
>>>>>> >> news:WxdLj.113441
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> $yE1.59557@attbi_s21:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> E'spleschelie since he changed identities about ten
>> times
>>>>> in
>>>>>> >> two
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> days, trying to **** off people that repeatedly told
him
>>>> he
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> >>>> in
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> their kill files.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That's a dedicated troll, I think.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nope -- just another indication of mental illness.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good grief.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> ****, why not?
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> 61
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> Well, @i can think of several reasons, but that'd be
>> telling,
>>>>> of
>>>>>> >>>> course.
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> 74
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Nope.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Bertie
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Still nope.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Bertie
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > That's some pretty cutting-edge stuff he's posting. I don't
know
>>>>> how
>>>>>> he
>>>>>> > comes up with such amazing concepts and then manages to express
>>>> them
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> > eloquently. But then, I'm not an ubergenius like he is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Next, he'll stop posting altogether. That'll show me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>
>>>>> It's amazing just how often that happens.
>>>>>
>>>>> HJ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You'd be amazed at how often it doesn't.
>>>>
>>>> Bertie
>>>
>>> /sniffsniff
>>>
>>> You smell that? That's ozone. It's formed by the extremely high
>> neural
>>> activity in Maxwell's head, and indicates that he likely has an IQ
>> that
>>> exceeds 1000. Seriously. I wasn't ****ing kidding when I suggested
>> he
>>> could power kitchen appliances with mere brainwaves.
>>>
>>
>> Cool, i bet he's a big scorer on "Big Brain Academy" too!
>>
>> Bertie
>
> He probably makes Mensa members feel stupid.
>

Prolly goes to Steven Hawkings local to make him look stupid in trivia
quizzes

Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

gregvk > wrote in
. 1:

> Bertie the Bunyip > wrote in news:ftsgb2$bfb$1
> @blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
>
>> gregvk > wrote in
>> .0.1:
>>
>>> Bertie the Bunyip > wrote in news:ftocdl$d0a$1
>>> @blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
>>>
>>>> gregvk > wrote in
>>>> . 1:
>>>>
>>>>> Bertie the Bunyip > wrote in news:fto06p$f76$2
>>>>> @blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "John \"C\"" > wrote in news:SPSdnafZ-
>> YjU_
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> gregvk > wrote in
>>>>>>>> . 1:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Bertie the Bunyip > wrote in news:ftmgn7$pqe$13
>>>>>>>> > @blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:6vzLj.59119
>>>>>> $yk5.55417
>>>>>>>> >> @newsfe18.lga:
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> >>> ...
>>>>>>>> >>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:uqeLj.27078$KJ1.2561
>>>>>>>> >>>> @newsfe19.lga:
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> >>>>> .. .
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> :
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> .. .
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
>>>>>>>> >> news:WxdLj.113441
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> $yE1.59557@attbi_s21:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> E'spleschelie since he changed identities about ten
>>>> times
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> >> two
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> days, trying to **** off people that repeatedly told
>> him
>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> >>>> in
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> their kill files.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That's a dedicated troll, I think.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nope -- just another indication of mental illness.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good grief.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ****, why not?
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> 61
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Well, @i can think of several reasons, but that'd be
>>>> telling,
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> >>>> course.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>> 74
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> Bertie
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Still nope.
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Bertie
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > That's some pretty cutting-edge stuff he's posting. I don't
>> know
>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>> > comes up with such amazing concepts and then manages to
express
>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> > eloquently. But then, I'm not an ubergenius like he is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Next, he'll stop posting altogether. That'll show me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's amazing just how often that happens.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You'd be amazed at how often it doesn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>
>>>>> /sniffsniff
>>>>>
>>>>> You smell that? That's ozone. It's formed by the extremely high
>>>> neural
>>>>> activity in Maxwell's head, and indicates that he likely has an IQ
>>>> that
>>>>> exceeds 1000. Seriously. I wasn't ****ing kidding when I
suggested
>>>> he
>>>>> could power kitchen appliances with mere brainwaves.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cool, i bet he's a big scorer on "Big Brain Academy" too!
>>>>
>>>> Bertie
>>>
>>> He probably makes Mensa members feel stupid.
>>>
>>
>> Prolly goes to Steven Hawkings local to make him look stupid in
trivia
>> quizzes
>>
>> Bertie
>
> Maxwell is the only person who can call him a "spastic retard" and get
> away with it.
>

Sigh, those were the days. God I miss him. He doesn't call, he doesn't
write...

Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

gregvk > wrote in
. 1:

> Bertie the Bunyip > wrote in news:ftvkm0$1bt$1
> @blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
>
>> gregvk > wrote in
>> . 1:
>>
>>> Bertie the Bunyip > wrote in news:ftsgb2$bfb$1
>>> @blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
>>>
>>>> gregvk > wrote in
>>>> .0.1:
>>>>
>>>>> Bertie the Bunyip > wrote in news:ftocdl$d0a$1
>>>>> @blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> gregvk > wrote in
>>>>>> . 1:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bertie the Bunyip > wrote in news:fto06p$f76$2
>>>>>>> @blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "John \"C\"" > wrote in
news:SPSdnafZ-
>>>> YjU_
>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> gregvk > wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> . 1:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > Bertie the Bunyip > wrote in news:ftmgn7$pqe$13
>>>>>>>>>> > @blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:6vzLj.59119
>>>>>>>> $yk5.55417
>>>>>>>>>> >> @newsfe18.lga:
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> >>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:uqeLj.27078$KJ1.2561
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> @newsfe19.lga:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> .. .
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> .. .
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> >> news:WxdLj.113441
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> $yE1.59557@attbi_s21:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> E'spleschelie since he changed identities about
ten
>>>>>> times
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> >> two
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> days, trying to **** off people that repeatedly
told
>>>> him
>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> their kill files.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That's a dedicated troll, I think.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nope -- just another indication of mental illness.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good grief.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ****, why not?
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> 61
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Well, @i can think of several reasons, but that'd be
>>>>>> telling,
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> course.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> 74
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Bertie
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> Still nope.
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> Bertie
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > That's some pretty cutting-edge stuff he's posting. I
don't
>>>> know
>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>> > comes up with such amazing concepts and then manages to
>> express
>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>> > eloquently. But then, I'm not an ubergenius like he is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Next, he'll stop posting altogether. That'll show me.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's amazing just how often that happens.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> HJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You'd be amazed at how often it doesn't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /sniffsniff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You smell that? That's ozone. It's formed by the extremely
high
>>>>>> neural
>>>>>>> activity in Maxwell's head, and indicates that he likely has an
IQ
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> exceeds 1000. Seriously. I wasn't ****ing kidding when I
>> suggested
>>>>>> he
>>>>>>> could power kitchen appliances with mere brainwaves.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cool, i bet he's a big scorer on "Big Brain Academy" too!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>
>>>>> He probably makes Mensa members feel stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Prolly goes to Steven Hawkings local to make him look stupid in
>> trivia
>>>> quizzes
>>>>
>>>> Bertie
>>>
>>> Maxwell is the only person who can call him a "spastic retard" and
get
>>> away with it.
>>>
>>
>> Sigh, those were the days. God I miss him. He doesn't call, he
doesn't
>> write...
>>
>> Bertie
>
> Max is the only person who can get away with telling this terrible
joke:
>
> Q - What's Stephen Hawking's dog's name?
>
> A - Hhhhhhhnnnnnnnnnnnnnnguuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh!!!
>

Wow. i had no idea. He is truly a god amongst men.


Bertie