Re: The aviation art of Michael Turner - [email protected] (2/2)

[[email protected]]

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:59:47 +0200, Hans Holbein >
wrote:

>If they only were not multipart....
>

I'd give a decent newsreader like Forté Agent a spin...

Wilph

[Hans Holbein]

schrieb:
> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:59:47 +0200, Hans Holbein >
> wrote:
>
>> If they only were not multipart....
>>
>
> I'd give a decent newsreader like Forté Agent a spin...
>
The posts are rather small.
So why take TB users out?

[Martin Helms]

"Hans Holbein" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
> schrieb:
>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:59:47 +0200, Hans Holbein >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If they only were not multipart....
>>>
>>
>> I'd give a decent newsreader like Forté Agent a spin...
>>
> The posts are rather small.
> So why take TB users out?

Use OE, works perfectly that way.

[Hans Holbein]

Martin Helms schrieb:
> "Hans Holbein" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> ...
>> schrieb:
>>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:59:47 +0200, Hans Holbein >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If they only were not multipart....
>>>>
>>> I'd give a decent newsreader like Forté Agent a spin...
>>>
>> The posts are rather small.
>> So why take TB users out?
>
> Use OE, works perfectly that way.
>
>
I use TB as Newsreader.
I'll do the f*** to use OE.

Most of the well appreciated other posters are able to post in a way any
given Newsreader can interprete it.

It does not seem to hard.

[[email protected]]

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:27:19 +0200, Hans Holbein >
wrote:

schrieb:
>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:59:47 +0200, Hans Holbein >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If they only were not multipart....
>>>
>>
>> I'd give a decent newsreader like Forté Agent a spin...
>>
>The posts are rather small.
>So why take TB users out?

I am following recommendations in the a.bsounds.mp3 FAQs which
recommend a line limit of 7500 to ensure propagation over some of the
more difficult nntp servers. The guidelines there have proven to be
effective for me.

Yenc would eliminate most of the multiparts as well, but may raise
other issues.

Wilph

I'd have no objections if somone with empathy for TB users reposts
these as single part messages....

[Hans Holbein]

schrieb:
> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:27:19 +0200, Hans Holbein >
> wrote:
>
>> schrieb:
>>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:59:47 +0200, Hans Holbein >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If they only were not multipart....
>>>>
>>> I'd give a decent newsreader like Forté Agent a spin...
>>>
>> The posts are rather small.
>> So why take TB users out?
>
> I am following recommendations in the a.bsounds.mp3 FAQs which
> recommend a line limit of 7500 to ensure propagation over some of the
> more difficult nntp servers. The guidelines there have proven to be
> effective for me.

That might be OK for MP3s with filesizes of av 5MB.
But good pictures have filesizes that range less then half of mp3s and
suitable pictures have a fraction of even this.
There is no real need to post multipart.
>
> Yenc would eliminate most of the multiparts as well, but may raise
> other issues.
>
Jes, Y-enc is not liked in abpa since yenc posters usually lack of
social skills and flood all over.

> Wilph
>
> I'd have no objections if somone with empathy for TB users reposts
> these as single part messages....

I often asked, but it does not seem like mozilla will create plugins for
multipart.

[[email protected]]

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:34:54 +0200, Hans Holbein >
wrote:

< snip >

>Jes, Y-enc is not liked in abpa since yenc posters usually lack of
>social skills and flood all over.

I do hope that you are not representative of this NG as a whole.

While flood-type posters do make use of the yEnc rather than the uunet
protocol, many downloaders have by now realized that the greatest
benefit is to those with slow connects - they are able to download
almost twice the volume in equivalent time; thus displaying an amazing
tolerance for the poster that 'usually lack of <sic> social skills and
flood all over'.

As a scanner filling his 4th CD of images, I take care to include
comments with my posts and to not overload smaller NGs with these

I am not going to change my posting habits to oblige those who are
stuck in a different groove than I am ;-)

I may just take my marbles and go home... if there are no
countervailing opinions here. In that case, the remaining scans will
eventually appear in alt.binaries.amp (yEnc and without commentary).

Wilph

[[email protected]]

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:00:25 -0500, Sj > wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:17:53 -0400, wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:34:54 +0200, Hans Holbein >
>>wrote:
>>
>>< snip >
>>
>>>Jes, Y-enc is not liked in abpa since yenc posters usually lack of
>>>social skills and flood all over.
>>
>>I do hope that you are not representative of this NG as a whole.
>>
>>While flood-type posters do make use of the yEnc rather than the uunet
>>protocol, many downloaders have by now realized that the greatest
>>benefit is to those with slow connects - they are able to download
>>almost twice the volume in equivalent time; thus displaying an amazing
>>tolerance for the poster that 'usually lack of <sic> social skills and
>>flood all over'.
>>
>>As a scanner filling his 4th CD of images, I take care to include
>>comments with my posts and to not overload smaller NGs with these
>>
>>I am not going to change my posting habits to oblige those who are
>>stuck in a different groove than I am ;-)
>>
>>I may just take my marbles and go home... if there are no
>>countervailing opinions here. In that case, the remaining scans will
>>eventually appear in alt.binaries.amp (yEnc and without commentary).
>>
>>Wilph
>
>And do w/out commentary!!!
>
>You once said to stop the hissey fit ... turn around is
>fair play :)
>
>Seriously, I'm sure there are enough people here who
>value what you're posting, so please continue ... my
>father was a test pilot for Fokker & worked for KLM,
>so have always been interested in aviation ... I like
>maritime stuff too :)
>
>As for a line limit of 7500, I used to always use
>7619 lines/480000 characters but several of my
>posts broke into pieces where Agent thought 1
>of the parts was empty so I changed it to 630000
>characters/10000 lines ... think that also kept
>some of the smaller Sundance fine-art scans from
>posting in 2 parts ... guess I never changed it
>back ... & probably won't until/unless I hear people
>are having problems again ...
>
>I understood a number of years back that some news
>servers won't accept files over a certain size ... don't
>know if that's still true ... if so, it's circumvented by
>posting in segments ... but that also makes it hard for
>news servers who really don't want to get into the
>large binary business ...
>
>Sj

Yup, I do remember my hissy fit accusation. It involved your
threatening to quit your home NG because some nitwit website lady (and
I'm not sure the 'lady' part applies) had purloined some of your scans
and omitted the artist's name and scanner-id among other heinous
crimes... ;-)

And, yup, I'm throwing my own fit. I may not even get around to the
Spitfires your father also flew....

I also recall a post of yours headed 'I scan, therefor I am'. Like
you, I scan essentially for my own pleasure and give less than an
amoeba's fart about who collects the images. Ah, that's true to a
large extent, but I try to remain polite, and I do oblige most
requests. It is my time, however, that was invested in the scans and,
ergo, my decision as to where I post them personally

I have no control over Talon, who obtains scans as they are released
in the IRC channels or from maillists and posts them as <new> to
ab.amp once or twice weekly.

II haven't made up my mind, but if I decide to post the remainder of
the commented scans elewhere, I'll leave a heads-up here.

Regards,
Wilph