The Worst Airliner Landing, Ever?

[Jay Honeck[_2_]]

As many of you know, I host one of the largest collections of aviation
videos on the internet. (See it here:
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm ) As a result, I receive a
LOT of videos, sent in from all over the world, and have seen all manner of
landings on film.

This one I received a few days ago, however, must rank as the worst airliner
landing ever recorded on video. If nothing else it serves as a testament to
the forgotten aircraft engineers who put their sweat into designing a very
tough little jet.

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-LondonCityBadLanding_BAE146.wmv

(If that wraps wrong, try: http://tinyurl.com/556h2d )

Here's the commentary from the fellow who submitted the video, Geno Becker:

"For those who want to fly to London City Airport, a cross wind adds to the
excitement (in addition to the short runway and steep approach). The airport
itself is located on the river Thames in downtown London, and gives business
people very quick access to the city. The Millennium Dome is in the left
side of the picture."

"The runway is only 1199 meters long, which is very short in airline runway
terms, thus it is only suitable for aircraft with good STOL (short take-off
and landing) performance. It also has a 5.5 degree glide slope, as opposed
to the conventional 3 degree slope to most runways. The BAE 146 is the main
jet type to operate into the place. Most other aircraft are turbo props
etc."

"When doing the approach you have to be fully configured, i.e., gear down,
full flaps and speed brakes before you commence descent from 3000 feet...or
you won't get stopped before reaching the far end of the runway. If it
doesn't look or feel right it is generally a good idea to give it away and
have another attempt. For whatever reason, this flight crew decided to
press, but they DID make the first turn off the runway. If nothing else,
it's a testament to the toughness of the BAE 146 airframe. The pilots
handled it like a dirtbike!"

I'm surprised the passengers didn't report spinal damage...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in
news:VC1Qj.80601$TT4.43104@attbi_s22:

> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-LondonCityBa
> dLanding_BAE146.wmv

How the **** would you know, jerkoff?

Bertie

[Dylan Smith]

On 2008-04-24, Jay Honeck > wrote:
> This one I received a few days ago, however, must rank as the worst airliner
> landing ever recorded on video.

I think there are worse ones from Kai Tak, before it was closed. At
least they got to use the aircraft again afterwards - some of the Kai
Tak landings you see them dragging engines on the ground which would
need some repairs before you could use the plane again!

--
From the sunny Isle of Man.
Yes, the Reply-To email address is valid.

[Ross]

Jay Honeck wrote:
> As many of you know, I host one of the largest collections of aviation
> videos on the internet. (See it here:
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm ) As a result, I
> receive a LOT of videos, sent in from all over the world, and have seen
> all manner of landings on film.
>
> This one I received a few days ago, however, must rank as the worst
> airliner landing ever recorded on video. If nothing else it serves as a
> testament to the forgotten aircraft engineers who put their sweat into
> designing a very tough little jet.
>
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-LondonCityBadLanding_BAE146.wmv
>
>
> (If that wraps wrong, try: http://tinyurl.com/556h2d )
>
> Here's the commentary from the fellow who submitted the video, Geno Becker:
>
> "For those who want to fly to London City Airport, a cross wind adds to
> the excitement (in addition to the short runway and steep approach). The
> airport itself is located on the river Thames in downtown London, and
> gives business people very quick access to the city. The Millennium Dome
> is in the left side of the picture."
>
> "The runway is only 1199 meters long, which is very short in airline
> runway terms, thus it is only suitable for aircraft with good STOL
> (short take-off and landing) performance. It also has a 5.5 degree glide
> slope, as opposed to the conventional 3 degree slope to most runways.
> The BAE 146 is the main jet type to operate into the place. Most other
> aircraft are turbo props etc."
>
> "When doing the approach you have to be fully configured, i.e., gear
> down, full flaps and speed brakes before you commence descent from 3000
> feet...or you won't get stopped before reaching the far end of the
> runway. If it doesn't look or feel right it is generally a good idea to
> give it away and have another attempt. For whatever reason, this flight
> crew decided to press, but they DID make the first turn off the runway.
> If nothing else, it's a testament to the toughness of the BAE 146
> airframe. The pilots handled it like a dirtbike!"
>
> I'm surprised the passengers didn't report spinal damage...

Boy, I bet it took longer to clean out the plane for the next flight. I
was on a flight in England and cannot remember the carrier. He dove it
to the runway and slammed on the stops. And, there was a terrific
crosswind. Darn, I wish I could remember where in England, also.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI

[Panic]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:VC1Qj.80601$TT4.43104@attbi_s22...
> As many of you know, I host one of the largest collections of aviation
> videos on the internet. (See it here:
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm ) As a result, I receive
> a LOT of videos, sent in from all over the world, and have seen all manner
> of landings on film.
>
> This one I received a few days ago, however, must rank as the worst
> airliner landing ever recorded on video. If nothing else it serves as a
> testament to the forgotten aircraft engineers who put their sweat into
> designing a very tough little jet.
>
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-LondonCityBadLanding_BAE146.wmv
>
> (If that wraps wrong, try: http://tinyurl.com/556h2d )
>
> Here's the commentary from the fellow who submitted the video, Geno
> Becker:
>
> "For those who want to fly to London City Airport, a cross wind adds to
> the excitement (in addition to the short runway and steep approach). The
> airport itself is located on the river Thames in downtown London, and
> gives business people very quick access to the city. The Millennium Dome
> is in the left side of the picture."
>
> "The runway is only 1199 meters long, which is very short in airline
> runway terms, thus it is only suitable for aircraft with good STOL (short
> take-off and landing) performance. It also has a 5.5 degree glide slope,
> as opposed to the conventional 3 degree slope to most runways. The BAE 146
> is the main jet type to operate into the place. Most other aircraft are
> turbo props etc."
>
> "When doing the approach you have to be fully configured, i.e., gear down,
> full flaps and speed brakes before you commence descent from 3000
> feet...or you won't get stopped before reaching the far end of the runway.
> If it doesn't look or feel right it is generally a good idea to give it
> away and have another attempt. For whatever reason, this flight crew
> decided to press, but they DID make the first turn off the runway. If
> nothing else, it's a testament to the toughness of the BAE 146 airframe.
> The pilots handled it like a dirtbike!"
>
You can frequently make the first turn off if you are willing to absorb your
forward momentum energy with the impact!!!!

[[email protected]]

On 24 Apr, 17:48, Bertie the Bunyip > wrote:
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote innews:VC1Qj.80601$TT4.43104@attbi_s22:
>
> >http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-LondonCityBa
> > dLanding_BAE146.wmv
>
> How the **** would you know, jerkoff?
>
> Bertie

Here is some stuff on it that I found.
Oh - and another one.

# Another one -
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OlgNEpSVCCo&NR=1


# Regarding the London City thing -

# Swiss AAIB says:-
Date: 18.08.2007
Location: London City Airport, United Kingdom
HB-IYU
Avro 146-RJ100

http://www.bfu.admin.ch/common/pdf/HB-IYU.pdf
NOTIFICATION OF AN ACCIDENT
We inform you about an accident of an aircraft
registered in Switzerland which occurred
in Great Britain:
Place, date, time: London City Airport, 18.08.2007, 09:40 UTC


# Loads of other stuff - in case anyone cares,
# I just had a look for some official report but
# there is not much on the web it seems.

# You Tube has it - Quality may be a bit better.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=s5prz1Ae5QM


http://worldplanes.canalblog.com/archives/2007/08/18/7929887.html
Hard landing Bae145 Swiss at London City Airport

http://forums.ifdg.net/index.php?showtopic=3391
# ## Good photos of damage ##
Damage to Swiss Air's RJ100 after hard landing at London City
International Air Lines BAE Systems Avro RJ100 after a heavy
landing on 18 August at London City airport.
The aircraft, a seven-year old example registered HB-IYU
The jet is owned by Zurich-based Anson Aircraft.

"Swiss to remove damaged Avro RJ100 on floating pontoon at London City
By Victoria Moores

Swiss International Air Lines and its insurers have decided to repair
the BAE Systems Avro RJ100 which was heavily damaged in a hard
landing incident at London City airport last month.

The aircraft is a seven-year old example registered HB-IYU
owned by Zurich-based Anson Aircraft. It was operating from
Geneva with 93 passengers and crew when it made the hard landing on 18
August.

A Swiss International Air Lines spokesman says: “The final
decision has been taken to repair it.”

Early evaluations suggest that the repair work will take
approximately 14 weeks, says the spokesman, although he
declines to comment on the cost of the work.

He says the aircraft suffered a tail scrape, cracks and
severe damage during the landing, but declined to comment
further on the cause which is subject to an ongoing
investigation.

Due to space and maintenance constraints at London City
airport, which is located on the river Thames, the aircraft
must be moved off-airport to perform the repair work.

The spokesman says it will soon be towed onto a marine
pontoon and floated a short distance along the river
to the north Royal Dock area.

“Security-wise everything is being prepared. We are
going to build a special hangar for the aircraft,”
he says. “The exact date for the move is not yet known,
but we will perform the repair on the spot. The aircraft
has been released; we can do what we want with it.”

[buttman]

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:24:37 +0000, Jay Honeck sayeth:

> As many of you know, I host one of the largest collections of aviation
> videos on the internet. (See it here:
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm ) As a result, I
> receive a LOT of videos, sent in from all over the world, and have seen
> all manner of landings on film.
>
> This one I received a few days ago, however, must rank as the worst
> airliner landing ever recorded on video. If nothing else it serves as a
> testament to the forgotten aircraft engineers who put their sweat into
> designing a very tough little jet.
>
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-
LondonCityBadLanding_BAE146.wmv
>
> (If that wraps wrong, try: http://tinyurl.com/556h2d )
>
> Here's the commentary from the fellow who submitted the video, Geno
> Becker:
>
> "For those who want to fly to London City Airport, a cross wind adds to
> the excitement (in addition to the short runway and steep approach). The
> airport itself is located on the river Thames in downtown London, and
> gives business people very quick access to the city. The Millennium Dome
> is in the left side of the picture."
>
> "The runway is only 1199 meters long, which is very short in airline
> runway terms, thus it is only suitable for aircraft with good STOL
> (short take-off and landing) performance. It also has a 5.5 degree glide
> slope, as opposed to the conventional 3 degree slope to most runways.
> The BAE 146 is the main jet type to operate into the place. Most other
> aircraft are turbo props etc."
>
> "When doing the approach you have to be fully configured, i.e., gear
> down, full flaps and speed brakes before you commence descent from 3000
> feet...or you won't get stopped before reaching the far end of the
> runway. If it doesn't look or feel right it is generally a good idea to
> give it away and have another attempt. For whatever reason, this flight
> crew decided to press, but they DID make the first turn off the runway.
> If nothing else, it's a testament to the toughness of the BAE 146
> airframe. The pilots handled it like a dirtbike!"
>
> I'm surprised the passengers didn't report spinal damage...

It kind of looks like it had a belly strike on the way down...

[[email protected]]

On 24 Apr, 19:22, Buttman > wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:24:37 +0000, Jay Honeck sayeth:
>
> > As many of you know, I host one of the largest collections of aviation
> > videos on the internet. *(See it here:
> >http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm) *As a result, I
> > receive a LOT of videos, sent in from all over the world, and have seen
> > all manner of landings on film.
>
> > This one I received a few days ago, however, must rank as the worst
> > airliner landing ever recorded on video. *If nothing else it serves as a
> > testament to the forgotten aircraft engineers who put their sweat into
> > designing a very tough little jet.
>
> >http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-
>
> LondonCityBadLanding_BAE146.wmv
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > (If that wraps wrong, try:http://tinyurl.com/556h2d)
>
> > Here's the commentary from the fellow who submitted the video, Geno
> > Becker:
>
> > "For those who want to fly to London City Airport, a cross wind adds to
> > the excitement (in addition to the short runway and steep approach). The
> > airport itself is located on the river Thames in downtown London, and
> > gives business people very quick access to the city. The Millennium Dome
> > is in the left side of the picture."
>
> > "The runway is only 1199 meters long, which is very short in airline
> > runway terms, thus it is only suitable for aircraft with good STOL
> > (short take-off and landing) performance. It also has a 5.5 degree glide
> > slope, as opposed to the conventional 3 degree slope to most runways.
> > The BAE 146 is the main jet type to operate into the place. Most other
> > aircraft are turbo props etc."
>
> > "When doing the approach you have to be fully configured, i.e., gear
> > down, full flaps and speed brakes before you commence descent from 3000
> > feet...or you won't get stopped before reaching the far end of the
> > runway. If it doesn't look or feel right it is generally a good idea to
> > give it away and have another attempt. For whatever reason, this flight
> > crew decided to press, but they DID make the first turn off the runway.
> > If nothing else, it's a testament to the toughness of the BAE 146
> > airframe. The pilots handled it like a dirtbike!"
>
> > I'm surprised the passengers didn't report spinal damage...
>
> It kind of looks like it had a belly strike on the way down...- Hide quoted text -
>

Here is the Take Off.
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2007/09/24/216951/video-and-pictures-swiss-has-removed-damaged-avro-rj100-on-floating-pontoon-at-london-city.html

[Jay Honeck[_2_]]

> # Another one -
> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OlgNEpSVCCo&NR=1

That was filmed during DC-9/MD-80 certification testing. They beefed up the
aft fuselage after that one...

;-)

Here's a copy you can save:
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/MD-80.mpeg
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in
news:0C3Qj.134635$yE1.8298@attbi_s21:

>> # Another one -
>> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OlgNEpSVCCo&NR=1
>
> That was filmed during DC-9/MD-80 certification testing. They beefed
> up the aft fuselage after that one...
>
> ;-)
>
> Here's a copy you can save:
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/MD-80.mpeg



God you're an asshole.


Bertie

[Robert M. Gary]

On Apr 24, 8:24*am, "Jay Honeck" > wrote:
> As many of you know, I host one of the largest collections of aviation
> videos on the internet. *(See it here:http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm) *As a result, I receive a
> LOT of videos, sent in from all over the world, and have seen all manner of
> landings on film.
>
> This one I received a few days ago, however, must rank as the worst airliner
> landing ever recorded on video. *If nothing else it serves as a testament to
> the forgotten aircraft engineers who put their sweat into designing a very
> tough little jet.
>
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-LondonCity...

You need to get youtube.com. This video has been floating around for
about 6 months.

-Robert

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Panic" > wrote in
:

> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
> news:VC1Qj.80601$TT4.43104@attbi_s22...
>> As many of you know, I host one of the largest collections of
>> aviation videos on the internet. (See it here:
>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm ) As a result, I
>> receive a LOT of videos, sent in from all over the world, and have
>> seen all manner of landings on film.
>>
>> This one I received a few days ago, however, must rank as the worst
>> airliner landing ever recorded on video. If nothing else it serves
>> as a testament to the forgotten aircraft engineers who put their
>> sweat into designing a very tough little jet.
>>
>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-
LondonCityB
>> adLanding_BAE146.wmv
>>
>> (If that wraps wrong, try: http://tinyurl.com/556h2d )
>>
>> Here's the commentary from the fellow who submitted the video, Geno
>> Becker:
>>
>> "For those who want to fly to London City Airport, a cross wind adds
>> to the excitement (in addition to the short runway and steep
>> approach). The airport itself is located on the river Thames in
>> downtown London, and gives business people very quick access to the
>> city. The Millennium Dome is in the left side of the picture."
>>
>> "The runway is only 1199 meters long, which is very short in airline
>> runway terms, thus it is only suitable for aircraft with good STOL
>> (short take-off and landing) performance. It also has a 5.5 degree
>> glide slope, as opposed to the conventional 3 degree slope to most
>> runways. The BAE 146 is the main jet type to operate into the place.
>> Most other aircraft are turbo props etc."
>>
>> "When doing the approach you have to be fully configured, i.e., gear
>> down, full flaps and speed brakes before you commence descent from
>> 3000 feet...or you won't get stopped before reaching the far end of
>> the runway. If it doesn't look or feel right it is generally a good
>> idea to give it away and have another attempt. For whatever reason,
>> this flight crew decided to press, but they DID make the first turn
>> off the runway. If nothing else, it's a testament to the toughness of
>> the BAE 146 airframe. The pilots handled it like a dirtbike!"
>>
> You can frequently make the first turn off if you are willing to
> absorb your forward momentum energy with the impact!!!!
>
>
>

I have no doubt you actually do this on almost every landing.


Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

"Panic" > wrote in
:

> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
> news:VC1Qj.80601$TT4.43104@attbi_s22...
>> As many of you know, I host one of the largest collections of
>> aviation videos on the internet. (See it here:
>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm ) As a result, I
>> receive a LOT of videos, sent in from all over the world, and have
>> seen all manner of landings on film.
>>
>> This one I received a few days ago, however, must rank as the worst
>> airliner landing ever recorded on video. If nothing else it serves
>> as a testament to the forgotten aircraft engineers who put their
>> sweat into designing a very tough little jet.
>>
>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-
LondonCityB
>> adLanding_BAE146.wmv
>>
>> (If that wraps wrong, try: http://tinyurl.com/556h2d )
>>
>> Here's the commentary from the fellow who submitted the video, Geno
>> Becker:
>>
>> "For those who want to fly to London City Airport, a cross wind adds
>> to the excitement (in addition to the short runway and steep
>> approach). The airport itself is located on the river Thames in
>> downtown London, and gives business people very quick access to the
>> city. The Millennium Dome is in the left side of the picture."
>>
>> "The runway is only 1199 meters long, which is very short in airline
>> runway terms, thus it is only suitable for aircraft with good STOL
>> (short take-off and landing) performance. It also has a 5.5 degree
>> glide slope, as opposed to the conventional 3 degree slope to most
>> runways. The BAE 146 is the main jet type to operate into the place.
>> Most other aircraft are turbo props etc."
>>
>> "When doing the approach you have to be fully configured, i.e., gear
>> down, full flaps and speed brakes before you commence descent from
>> 3000 feet...or you won't get stopped before reaching the far end of
>> the runway. If it doesn't look or feel right it is generally a good
>> idea to give it away and have another attempt. For whatever reason,
>> this flight crew decided to press, but they DID make the first turn
>> off the runway. If nothing else, it's a testament to the toughness of
>> the BAE 146 airframe. The pilots handled it like a dirtbike!"
>>
> You can frequently make the first turn off if you are willing to
> absorb your forward momentum energy with the impact!!!!
>
>
>

Ooops! Sory, friendly fire.

Disregard.


Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

Buttman > wrote in news:fuqfjo$hee$1
@registered.motzarella.org:


>
> It kind of looks like it had a belly strike on the way down...
>

Expert on those are you?

Bertie

[[email protected]]

On Apr 24, 9:24*am, "Jay Honeck" > wrote:
> As many of you know, I host one of the largest collections of aviation
> videos on the internet. *(See it here:http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm) *As a result, I receive a
> LOT of videos, sent in from all over the world, and have seen all manner of
> landings on film.
>
> This one I received a few days ago, however, must rank as the worst airliner
> landing ever recorded on video. *If nothing else it serves as a testament to
> the forgotten aircraft engineers who put their sweat into designing a very
> tough little jet.
>
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-LondonCity...
>
> (If that wraps wrong, try:http://tinyurl.com/556h2d)
>
> Here's the commentary from the fellow who submitted the video, Geno Becker:
>
> "For those who want to fly to London City Airport, a cross wind adds to the
> excitement (in addition to the short runway and steep approach). The airport
> itself is located on the river Thames in downtown London, and gives business
> people very quick access to the city. The Millennium Dome is in the left
> side of the picture."
>
> "The runway is only 1199 meters long, which is very short in airline runway
> terms, thus it is only suitable for aircraft with good STOL (short take-off
> and landing) performance. It also has a 5.5 degree glide slope, as opposed
> to the conventional 3 degree slope to most runways. The BAE 146 is the main
> jet type to operate into the place. Most other aircraft are turbo props
> etc."
>
> "When doing the approach you have to be fully configured, i.e., gear down,
> full flaps and speed brakes before you commence descent from 3000 feet...or
> you won't get stopped before reaching the far end of the runway. If it
> doesn't look or feel right it is generally a good idea to give it away and
> have another attempt. For whatever reason, this flight crew decided to
> press, but they DID make the first turn off the runway. If nothing else,
> it's a testament to the toughness of the BAE 146 airframe. The pilots
> handled it like a dirtbike!"
>
> I'm surprised the passengers didn't report spinal damage...
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"

Watch the verticle and horizontal stabilizer deform on the initial
hit, then it occilates for a few more cycles. There ain't NO WAY I
would fly in that airframe, no matter how good they claim they made
repairs.... On a side note, the pilots need additional training, they
couldn't even kick it straight to the runway at touchdown, or even a
few seconds afterward.

Ben

[Jay Honeck[_2_]]

>You need to get youtube.com. This video has been floating around for
>about 6 months.

Nothing against YouTube -- I like it and view it occasionally -- but when it
comes to aviation videos they tend a bit too much toward the "train-wreck"
attitude. Lot's of explosions and fire, with too little explanation.

Our site is different because of the knowledgeable commentary that
accompanies many of the videos. For instance, go to the "Military" section,
and view the F-14A Tomcat explosion video. Then read commentary from
several expert sources, including from the pilot himself, all sent to me for
inclusion on the site.

As a GA pilot my knowledge-base is somewhat limited when it comes to
heavy-metal, so years ago I recruited Tony Clay, a former RAF pilot, to be
the site's resident expert. Viewers can email Tony directly with questions
or comments, and he will respond directly, or he will point them in a
direction where they may find the answers they seek. He's been an
invaluable source of aeronautical information over the years, and viewers
worldwide owe him a debt of gratitude (as do I).

The page has grown far beyond anything I ever intended (it was *supposed* to
be merely an aid to navigation for our fly-in guests!), but it's been a lot
of fun and very educational.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[WingFlaps]

On Apr 25, 7:00*am, " > wrote:
> On Apr 24, 9:24*am, "Jay Honeck" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > As many of you know, I host one of the largest collections of aviation
> > videos on the internet. *(See it here:http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm) *As a result, I receive a
> > LOT of videos, sent in from all over the world, and have seen all manner of
> > landings on film.
>
> > This one I received a few days ago, however, must rank as the worst airliner
> > landing ever recorded on video. *If nothing else it serves as a testament to
> > the forgotten aircraft engineers who put their sweat into designing a very
> > tough little jet.
>
> >http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-LondonCity...
>
> > (If that wraps wrong, try:http://tinyurl.com/556h2d)
>
> > Here's the commentary from the fellow who submitted the video, Geno Becker:
>
> > "For those who want to fly to London City Airport, a cross wind adds to the
> > excitement (in addition to the short runway and steep approach). The airport
> > itself is located on the river Thames in downtown London, and gives business
> > people very quick access to the city. The Millennium Dome is in the left
> > side of the picture."
>
> > "The runway is only 1199 meters long, which is very short in airline runway
> > terms, thus it is only suitable for aircraft with good STOL (short take-off
> > and landing) performance. It also has a 5.5 degree glide slope, as opposed
> > to the conventional 3 degree slope to most runways. The BAE 146 is the main
> > jet type to operate into the place. Most other aircraft are turbo props
> > etc."
>
> > "When doing the approach you have to be fully configured, i.e., gear down,
> > full flaps and speed brakes before you commence descent from 3000 feet....or
> > you won't get stopped before reaching the far end of the runway. If it
> > doesn't look or feel right it is generally a good idea to give it away and
> > have another attempt. For whatever reason, this flight crew decided to
> > press, but they DID make the first turn off the runway. If nothing else,
> > it's a testament to the toughness of the BAE 146 airframe. The pilots
> > handled it like a dirtbike!"
>
> > I'm surprised the passengers didn't report spinal damage...
> > --
> > Jay Honeck
> > Iowa City, IA
> > Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
> > "Your Aviation Destination"
>
> Watch the verticle and horizontal stabilizer deform on the initial
> hit, then it occilates for a few more cycles. There ain't NO WAY I
> would fly in that airframe, no matter how good they claim they made
> repairs....


The wing can deflect much more than that in flight in heavy
turbulence. The damage will be to the points of attachment of the gear
I'd guess.

Cheers.

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in
news:Ea5Qj.80844$TT4.44133@attbi_s22:

>>You need to get youtube.com. This video has been floating around for
>>about 6 months.
>
> Nothing against YouTube -- I like it and view it occasionally -- but
> when it comes to aviation videos they tend a bit too much toward the
> "train-wreck" attitude. Lot's of explosions and fire, with too little
> explanation.


Yeah, nothing like your "Worst airliner landing ever" post.

Fjukkwit.

Bertie

[Mike Isaksen]

"Jay Honeck" wrote
> Here's a copy you can save:
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/MD-80.mpeg
> --
>

Here's a painful one to watch. Good vid to show students about why airspeed
is important.
It's a walkaway, but maybe not fly away:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lhUO4pdGCf8

[JGalban via AviationKB.com]

Mike Isaksen wrote:
>
>Here's a painful one to watch. Good vid to show students about why airspeed
>is important.
>It's a walkaway, but maybe not fly away:
>
>http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lhUO4pdGCf8

That looks like a classic porpoise. I'll have to admit, I've never seen an
airliner do one, though they're not uncommon if you hang around a GA airport
with a lot of training activity. On GA planes, the nose gear will usually
collapse on the third or fouth bounce.

Airspeed is not the only key to avoiding one of these. They're usually
entered by touching down with a flat or nose low attitude. Trying to force
the airplane onto the runway before it's ready is good way to get one started.


John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

--
Message posted via AviationKB.com
http://www.aviationkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/aviation/200804/1

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

"Mike Isaksen" > wrote in
news:e09Qj.34893$mw4.17942@trnddc04:

>
> "Jay Honeck" wrote
>> Here's a copy you can save:
>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/MD-80.mpeg
>> --
>>
>
> Here's a painful one to watch. Good vid to show students about why
> airspeed is important.
> It's a walkaway, but maybe not fly away:
>
> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lhUO4pdGCf8
>
>


Yeah, a tad fast at touchdown, but what's his excuse for the rest of
it?!!!!!!


Bertie
>

[Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]]

"JGalban via AviationKB.com" <u32749@uwe> wrote in
news:832e340dd3468@uwe:

> Mike Isaksen wrote:
>>
>>Here's a painful one to watch. Good vid to show students about why
>>airspeed is important.
>>It's a walkaway, but maybe not fly away:
>>
>>http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lhUO4pdGCf8
>
> That looks like a classic porpoise. I'll have to admit, I've never
> seen an
> airliner do one, though they're not uncommon if you hang around a GA
> airport with a lot of training activity. On GA planes, the nose gear
> will usually collapse on the third or fouth bounce.
>
> Airspeed is not the only key to avoiding one of these. They're
> usually
> entered by touching down with a flat or nose low attitude.


Well, your airspeed will dictate your attitude at touchdown!



Trying to
> force the airplane onto the runway before it's ready is good way to
> get one started. =

Yeah. It's the best way, certainly.
Airliners do do this from time to time. I know of several. One, a 727
had massive damage done to the fuselage and had to have the entire top
of it reskinned from the leading edge to the cockpit. A 737 that bounced
off the nosewheel, then went around. the crew discovered they had no
ailerons once airborne since the nosewheel had punched the forward
bulkhead so hard into the belly that it slackened the aileron control
runs. I've seen both of these airplanes soon after the event as well as
several others. It should be harder to do in a jet than a light plane
since the attitude should be a bit more nose high for a given VS-Vref
ratio due to the leading edge devices, but some guys manage it anyway!


Bertie

[Matt Whiting]

Jay Honeck wrote:
> As many of you know, I host one of the largest collections of aviation
> videos on the internet. (See it here:
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm ) As a result, I
> receive a LOT of videos, sent in from all over the world, and have seen
> all manner of landings on film.
>
> This one I received a few days ago, however, must rank as the worst
> airliner landing ever recorded on video. If nothing else it serves as a
> testament to the forgotten aircraft engineers who put their sweat into
> designing a very tough little jet.

I think this is why that, other than for a carrier landing, it is
recommended that one FLARE before landing. :-)

Matt

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
.. .
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
> news:VC1Qj.80601$TT4.43104@attbi_s22:
>
>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-LondonCityBa
>> dLanding_BAE146.wmv
>
> How the **** would you know, jerkoff?
>
> Bertie

Well how the jerk would you know, **** off?

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:ZRaQj.11646$3N1.9712
@newsfe17.lga:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
>> news:VC1Qj.80601$TT4.43104@attbi_s22:
>>
>>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-
LondonCityBa
>>> dLanding_BAE146.wmv
>>
>> How the **** would you know, jerkoff?
>>
>> Bertie
>
> Well how the jerk would you know, **** off?
>

I know and you know I know.



Bertie

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
.. .
> "Panic" > wrote in
> :
>
>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
>> news:VC1Qj.80601$TT4.43104@attbi_s22...
>>> As many of you know, I host one of the largest collections of
>>> aviation videos on the internet. (See it here:
>>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm ) As a result, I
>>> receive a LOT of videos, sent in from all over the world, and have
>>> seen all manner of landings on film.
>>>
>>> This one I received a few days ago, however, must rank as the worst
>>> airliner landing ever recorded on video. If nothing else it serves
>>> as a testament to the forgotten aircraft engineers who put their
>>> sweat into designing a very tough little jet.
>>>
>>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-
> LondonCityB
>>> adLanding_BAE146.wmv
>>>
>>> (If that wraps wrong, try: http://tinyurl.com/556h2d )
>>>
>>> Here's the commentary from the fellow who submitted the video, Geno
>>> Becker:
>>>
>>> "For those who want to fly to London City Airport, a cross wind adds
>>> to the excitement (in addition to the short runway and steep
>>> approach). The airport itself is located on the river Thames in
>>> downtown London, and gives business people very quick access to the
>>> city. The Millennium Dome is in the left side of the picture."
>>>
>>> "The runway is only 1199 meters long, which is very short in airline
>>> runway terms, thus it is only suitable for aircraft with good STOL
>>> (short take-off and landing) performance. It also has a 5.5 degree
>>> glide slope, as opposed to the conventional 3 degree slope to most
>>> runways. The BAE 146 is the main jet type to operate into the place.
>>> Most other aircraft are turbo props etc."
>>>
>>> "When doing the approach you have to be fully configured, i.e., gear
>>> down, full flaps and speed brakes before you commence descent from
>>> 3000 feet...or you won't get stopped before reaching the far end of
>>> the runway. If it doesn't look or feel right it is generally a good
>>> idea to give it away and have another attempt. For whatever reason,
>>> this flight crew decided to press, but they DID make the first turn
>>> off the runway. If nothing else, it's a testament to the toughness of
>>> the BAE 146 airframe. The pilots handled it like a dirtbike!"
>>>
>> You can frequently make the first turn off if you are willing to
>> absorb your forward momentum energy with the impact!!!!
>>
>>
>>
>
> Ooops! Sory, friendly fire.
>
> Disregard.
>
>
> Bertie

Good shot retard.

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
> Buttman > wrote in news:fuqfjo$hee$1
> @registered.motzarella.org:
>
>
>>
>> It kind of looks like it had a belly strike on the way down...
>>
>
> Expert on those are you?
>
> Bertie

Least he posted it to the right message.

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:8UaQj.11648$3N1.277
@newsfe17.lga:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> "Panic" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
>>> news:VC1Qj.80601$TT4.43104@attbi_s22...
>>>> As many of you know, I host one of the largest collections of
>>>> aviation videos on the internet. (See it here:
>>>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm ) As a result, I
>>>> receive a LOT of videos, sent in from all over the world, and have
>>>> seen all manner of landings on film.
>>>>
>>>> This one I received a few days ago, however, must rank as the worst
>>>> airliner landing ever recorded on video. If nothing else it serves
>>>> as a testament to the forgotten aircraft engineers who put their
>>>> sweat into designing a very tough little jet.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-
>> LondonCityB
>>>> adLanding_BAE146.wmv
>>>>
>>>> (If that wraps wrong, try: http://tinyurl.com/556h2d )
>>>>
>>>> Here's the commentary from the fellow who submitted the video, Geno
>>>> Becker:
>>>>
>>>> "For those who want to fly to London City Airport, a cross wind
adds
>>>> to the excitement (in addition to the short runway and steep
>>>> approach). The airport itself is located on the river Thames in
>>>> downtown London, and gives business people very quick access to the
>>>> city. The Millennium Dome is in the left side of the picture."
>>>>
>>>> "The runway is only 1199 meters long, which is very short in
airline
>>>> runway terms, thus it is only suitable for aircraft with good STOL
>>>> (short take-off and landing) performance. It also has a 5.5 degree
>>>> glide slope, as opposed to the conventional 3 degree slope to most
>>>> runways. The BAE 146 is the main jet type to operate into the
place.
>>>> Most other aircraft are turbo props etc."
>>>>
>>>> "When doing the approach you have to be fully configured, i.e.,
gear
>>>> down, full flaps and speed brakes before you commence descent from
>>>> 3000 feet...or you won't get stopped before reaching the far end of
>>>> the runway. If it doesn't look or feel right it is generally a good
>>>> idea to give it away and have another attempt. For whatever reason,
>>>> this flight crew decided to press, but they DID make the first turn
>>>> off the runway. If nothing else, it's a testament to the toughness
of
>>>> the BAE 146 airframe. The pilots handled it like a dirtbike!"
>>>>
>>> You can frequently make the first turn off if you are willing to
>>> absorb your forward momentum energy with the impact!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Ooops! Sory, friendly fire.
>>
>> Disregard.
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> Good shot retard.


Well, i needn't even shoot at you, since you do it to yourself so well!



BTW, i thought you had run away? What happened? miss me?


Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:yUaQj.11649$3N1.10401
@newsfe17.lga:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Buttman > wrote in news:fuqfjo$hee$1
>> @registered.motzarella.org:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> It kind of looks like it had a belly strike on the way down...
>>>
>>
>> Expert on those are you?
>>
>> Bertie
>
> Least he posted it to the right message.


oh no! Are you going to be mean to me again? Please don't! It's just too
scary!

Bwawhawhhahwhahwhahwhahwhhahwhhwhahhwhwhwhhwh!


Bertie
>
>
>

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:yUaQj.11649$3N1.10401
> @newsfe17.lga:
>
>>
>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Buttman > wrote in news:fuqfjo$hee$1
>>> @registered.motzarella.org:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It kind of looks like it had a belly strike on the way down...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Expert on those are you?
>>>
>>> Bertie
>>
>> Least he posted it to the right message.
>
>
> oh no! Are you going to be mean to me again? Please don't! It's just too
> scary!
>
> Bwawhawhhahwhahwhahwhahwhhahwhhwhahhwhwhwhhwh!
>
>
> Bertie
>>
>>
>>
>

Here you go again, biting like a hungry carp. You just can't stop can you.
You put your hands in you pants, and even turn off the computer. But ya just
can't stay away.

You go lamer.

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:8UaQj.11648$3N1.277
> @newsfe17.lga:
>
>>
>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>> "Panic" > wrote in
>>> :
>>>
>>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
>>>> news:VC1Qj.80601$TT4.43104@attbi_s22...
>>>>> As many of you know, I host one of the largest collections of
>>>>> aviation videos on the internet. (See it here:
>>>>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm ) As a result, I
>>>>> receive a LOT of videos, sent in from all over the world, and have
>>>>> seen all manner of landings on film.
>>>>>
>>>>> This one I received a few days ago, however, must rank as the worst
>>>>> airliner landing ever recorded on video. If nothing else it serves
>>>>> as a testament to the forgotten aircraft engineers who put their
>>>>> sweat into designing a very tough little jet.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-
>>> LondonCityB
>>>>> adLanding_BAE146.wmv
>>>>>
>>>>> (If that wraps wrong, try: http://tinyurl.com/556h2d )
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's the commentary from the fellow who submitted the video, Geno
>>>>> Becker:
>>>>>
>>>>> "For those who want to fly to London City Airport, a cross wind
> adds
>>>>> to the excitement (in addition to the short runway and steep
>>>>> approach). The airport itself is located on the river Thames in
>>>>> downtown London, and gives business people very quick access to the
>>>>> city. The Millennium Dome is in the left side of the picture."
>>>>>
>>>>> "The runway is only 1199 meters long, which is very short in
> airline
>>>>> runway terms, thus it is only suitable for aircraft with good STOL
>>>>> (short take-off and landing) performance. It also has a 5.5 degree
>>>>> glide slope, as opposed to the conventional 3 degree slope to most
>>>>> runways. The BAE 146 is the main jet type to operate into the
> place.
>>>>> Most other aircraft are turbo props etc."
>>>>>
>>>>> "When doing the approach you have to be fully configured, i.e.,
> gear
>>>>> down, full flaps and speed brakes before you commence descent from
>>>>> 3000 feet...or you won't get stopped before reaching the far end of
>>>>> the runway. If it doesn't look or feel right it is generally a good
>>>>> idea to give it away and have another attempt. For whatever reason,
>>>>> this flight crew decided to press, but they DID make the first turn
>>>>> off the runway. If nothing else, it's a testament to the toughness
> of
>>>>> the BAE 146 airframe. The pilots handled it like a dirtbike!"
>>>>>
>>>> You can frequently make the first turn off if you are willing to
>>>> absorb your forward momentum energy with the impact!!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ooops! Sory, friendly fire.
>>>
>>> Disregard.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bertie
>>
>> Good shot retard.
>
>
> Well, i needn't even shoot at you, since you do it to yourself so well!
>
>
>
> BTW, i thought you had run away? What happened? miss me?
>
>
> Bertie

There ya go man, just say anything. It doen't have to make sense. You're
Bertie the Buttlick, as long as you hit enter, everyone will respect you.

Just keep saying it, over and over and over.

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:yUaQj.11649$3N1.10401
>> @newsfe17.lga:
>>
>>>
>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Buttman > wrote in news:fuqfjo$hee$1
>>>> @registered.motzarella.org:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It kind of looks like it had a belly strike on the way down...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Expert on those are you?
>>>>
>>>> Bertie
>>>
>>> Least he posted it to the right message.
>>
>>
>> oh no! Are you going to be mean to me again? Please don't! It's just
>> too scary!
>>
>> Bwawhawhhahwhahwhahwhahwhhahwhhwhahhwhwhwhhwh!
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> Here you go again, biting like a hungry carp. You just can't stop can
> you. You put your hands in you pants, and even turn off the computer.
> But ya just can't stay away.

Nope, never turn it off.
>
> You go lamer.
>
>
>

I will.

Always.

Forever and ever.

Bertie


Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:PAbQj.11671$3N1.6881
@newsfe17.lga:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:8UaQj.11648$3N1.277
>> @newsfe17.lga:
>>
>>>
>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>> .. .
>>>> "Panic" > wrote in
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
>>>>> news:VC1Qj.80601$TT4.43104@attbi_s22...
>>>>>> As many of you know, I host one of the largest collections of
>>>>>> aviation videos on the internet. (See it here:
>>>>>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm ) As a result,
I
>>>>>> receive a LOT of videos, sent in from all over the world, and
have
>>>>>> seen all manner of landings on film.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This one I received a few days ago, however, must rank as the
worst
>>>>>> airliner landing ever recorded on video. If nothing else it
serves
>>>>>> as a testament to the forgotten aircraft engineers who put their
>>>>>> sweat into designing a very tough little jet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-
>>>> LondonCityB
>>>>>> adLanding_BAE146.wmv
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (If that wraps wrong, try: http://tinyurl.com/556h2d )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's the commentary from the fellow who submitted the video,
Geno
>>>>>> Becker:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "For those who want to fly to London City Airport, a cross wind
>> adds
>>>>>> to the excitement (in addition to the short runway and steep
>>>>>> approach). The airport itself is located on the river Thames in
>>>>>> downtown London, and gives business people very quick access to
the
>>>>>> city. The Millennium Dome is in the left side of the picture."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The runway is only 1199 meters long, which is very short in
>> airline
>>>>>> runway terms, thus it is only suitable for aircraft with good
STOL
>>>>>> (short take-off and landing) performance. It also has a 5.5
degree
>>>>>> glide slope, as opposed to the conventional 3 degree slope to
most
>>>>>> runways. The BAE 146 is the main jet type to operate into the
>> place.
>>>>>> Most other aircraft are turbo props etc."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "When doing the approach you have to be fully configured, i.e.,
>> gear
>>>>>> down, full flaps and speed brakes before you commence descent
from
>>>>>> 3000 feet...or you won't get stopped before reaching the far end
of
>>>>>> the runway. If it doesn't look or feel right it is generally a
good
>>>>>> idea to give it away and have another attempt. For whatever
reason,
>>>>>> this flight crew decided to press, but they DID make the first
turn
>>>>>> off the runway. If nothing else, it's a testament to the
toughness
>> of
>>>>>> the BAE 146 airframe. The pilots handled it like a dirtbike!"
>>>>>>
>>>>> You can frequently make the first turn off if you are willing to
>>>>> absorb your forward momentum energy with the impact!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ooops! Sory, friendly fire.
>>>>
>>>> Disregard.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bertie
>>>
>>> Good shot retard.
>>
>>
>> Well, i needn't even shoot at you, since you do it to yourself so
well!
>>
>>
>>
>> BTW, i thought you had run away? What happened? miss me?
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> There ya go man, just say anything. It doen't have to make sense.
You're
> Bertie the Buttlick, as long as you hit enter, everyone will respect
you.
>

Don;t care of they do or not. Something that is pretty obvious to
everyone but you, fjukktard.


> Just keep saying it, over and over and over.
>


What, that you're a fjukktard? hardly seems neccesary, but it is good
fun!

Bertie
>
>
>

[Maxwell[_2_]]

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
> :
>
>>
>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:yUaQj.11649$3N1.10401
>>> @newsfe17.lga:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Buttman > wrote in news:fuqfjo$hee$1
>>>>> @registered.motzarella.org:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It kind of looks like it had a belly strike on the way down...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Expert on those are you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bertie
>>>>
>>>> Least he posted it to the right message.
>>>
>>>
>>> oh no! Are you going to be mean to me again? Please don't! It's just
>>> too scary!
>>>
>>> Bwawhawhhahwhahwhahwhahwhhahwhhwhahhwhwhwhhwh!
>>>
>>>
>>> Bertie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> Here you go again, biting like a hungry carp. You just can't stop can
>> you. You put your hands in you pants, and even turn off the computer.
>> But ya just can't stay away.
>
> Nope, never turn it off.
>>
>> You go lamer.
>>
>>
>>
>
> I will.
>
> Always.
>
> Forever and ever.
>
> Bertie
>
>
> Bertie

We know. In lies a revealing element of your sickness.

[Robert Barker]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:VC1Qj.80601$TT4.43104@attbi_s22...
> As many of you know, I host one of the largest collections of aviation
> videos on the internet. (See it here:
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm ) As a result, I receive
> a LOT of videos, sent in from all over the world, and have seen all manner
> of landings on film.
>
> This one I received a few days ago, however, must rank as the worst
> airliner landing ever recorded on video. If nothing else it serves as a
> testament to the forgotten aircraft engineers who put their sweat into
> designing a very tough little jet.
>
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-LondonCityBadLanding_BAE146.wmv
>
> (If that wraps wrong, try: http://tinyurl.com/556h2d )
>
> Here's the commentary from the fellow who submitted the video, Geno
> Becker:
>
> "For those who want to fly to London City Airport, a cross wind adds to
> the excitement (in addition to the short runway and steep approach). The
> airport itself is located on the river Thames in downtown London, and
> gives business people very quick access to the city. The Millennium Dome
> is in the left side of the picture."
>
> "The runway is only 1199 meters long, which is very short in airline
> runway terms, thus it is only suitable for aircraft with good STOL (short
> take-off and landing) performance. It also has a 5.5 degree glide slope,
> as opposed to the conventional 3 degree slope to most runways. The BAE 146
> is the main jet type to operate into the place. Most other aircraft are
> turbo props etc."
>
> "When doing the approach you have to be fully configured, i.e., gear down,
> full flaps and speed brakes before you commence descent from 3000
> feet...or you won't get stopped before reaching the far end of the runway.
> If it doesn't look or feel right it is generally a good idea to give it
> away and have another attempt. For whatever reason, this flight crew
> decided to press, but they DID make the first turn off the runway. If
> nothing else, it's a testament to the toughness of the BAE 146 airframe.
> The pilots handled it like a dirtbike!"
>
> I'm surprised the passengers didn't report spinal damage...
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"


Definitely an e-ticket ride!

[Larry Dighera]

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:46:50 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip >
wrote in >:

>Newsgroups: rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.alien.v ampire.flonk.flonk.flonk

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

Larry Dighera > wrote in
:

> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:46:50 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip >
> wrote in >:
>
>>Newsgroups:
>>rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.alien.v ampire.flonk.flonk.fl
>>onk
>

alt.religion.asatru,alt.disasters.aviation and alt.flame added

Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:%ObQj.11677$3N1.1828
@newsfe17.lga:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
>> :
>>
>>>
>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:yUaQj.11649$3N1.10401
>>>> @newsfe17.lga:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Buttman > wrote in news:fuqfjo$hee$1
>>>>>> @registered.motzarella.org:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It kind of looks like it had a belly strike on the way down...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Expert on those are you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>
>>>>> Least he posted it to the right message.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> oh no! Are you going to be mean to me again? Please don't! It's
just
>>>> too scary!
>>>>
>>>> Bwawhawhhahwhahwhahwhahwhhahwhhwhahhwhwhwhhwh!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bertie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Here you go again, biting like a hungry carp. You just can't stop
can
>>> you. You put your hands in you pants, and even turn off the
computer.
>>> But ya just can't stay away.
>>
>> Nope, never turn it off.
>>>
>>> You go lamer.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I will.
>>
>> Always.
>>
>> Forever and ever.
>>
>> Bertie
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> We know. In lies a revealing element of your sickness.

Don't matter.

Forever and ever and ever and ever and ever....



Bertie

[Daedalus]

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:57:14 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip >
wrote:

>"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:ZRaQj.11646$3N1.9712
:
>
>>
>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
>>> news:VC1Qj.80601$TT4.43104@attbi_s22:
>>>
>>>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-
>LondonCityBa
>>>> dLanding_BAE146.wmv
>>>
>>> How the **** would you know, jerkoff?
>>>
>>> Bertie
>>
>> Well how the jerk would you know, **** off?
>>
>
>I know and you know I know.
>
>
>
>Bertie

How did you know that was a flame attempt?

Jade

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

Daedalus > wrote in
:

> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:57:14 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip >
> wrote:
>
>>"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:ZRaQj.11646$3N1.9712
:
>>
>>>
>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>> .. .
>>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
>>>> news:VC1Qj.80601$TT4.43104@attbi_s22:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-
>>LondonCityBa
>>>>> dLanding_BAE146.wmv
>>>>
>>>> How the **** would you know, jerkoff?
>>>>
>>>> Bertie
>>>
>>> Well how the jerk would you know, **** off?
>>>
>>
>>I know and you know I know.
>>
>>
>>
>>Bertie
>
> How did you know that was a flame attempt?
>
> Jade
>
>

it has his handwritng all over it.


Bertie

[Daedalus]

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:19:56 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip >
wrote:

>Daedalus > wrote in
:
>
>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:57:14 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:ZRaQj.11646$3N1.9712
:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>> .. .
>>>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
>>>>> news:VC1Qj.80601$TT4.43104@attbi_s22:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-
>>>LondonCityBa
>>>>>> dLanding_BAE146.wmv
>>>>>
>>>>> How the **** would you know, jerkoff?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bertie
>>>>
>>>> Well how the jerk would you know, **** off?
>>>>
>>>
>>>I know and you know I know.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Bertie
>>
>> How did you know that was a flame attempt?
>>
>> Jade
>>
>>
>
>it has his handwritng all over it.
>
>
>Bertie

Is his specialty sucky flame attempts?

Jade

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

Daedalus > wrote in
:

> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:19:56 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip >
> wrote:
>
>>Daedalus > wrote in
:
>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:57:14 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:ZRaQj.11646$3N1.9712
:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>> .. .
>>>>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
>>>>>> news:VC1Qj.80601$TT4.43104@attbi_s22:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-
>>>>LondonCityBa
>>>>>>> dLanding_BAE146.wmv
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How the **** would you know, jerkoff?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>
>>>>> Well how the jerk would you know, **** off?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I know and you know I know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Bertie
>>>
>>> How did you know that was a flame attempt?
>>>
>>> Jade
>>>
>>>
>>
>>it has his handwritng all over it.
>>
>>
>>Bertie
>
> Is his specialty sucky flame attempts?
>
> Jade
>

Yes, he's teaching me the lesson of my life by exposing me. I'm not
exactly sure what he;'s supposed to be exposing, though.
Something about posession or something.


Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

gregvk > wrote in news:Xns9A8B75530FD1AE817AC3D8380227
@127.0.0.1:

> Bertie the Bunyip > wrote in news:fut3oq$2p1$3
> @blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
>
>> Daedalus > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:19:56 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Daedalus > wrote in
:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:57:14 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
>> >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:ZRaQj.11646$3N1.9712
:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> .. .
>>>>>>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:VC1Qj.80601$TT4.43104@attbi_s22:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-
>>>>>>LondonCityBa
>>>>>>>>> dLanding_BAE146.wmv
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How the **** would you know, jerkoff?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well how the jerk would you know, **** off?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I know and you know I know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bertie
>>>>>
>>>>> How did you know that was a flame attempt?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jade
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>it has his handwritng all over it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Bertie
>>>
>>> Is his specialty sucky flame attempts?
>>>
>>> Jade
>>>
>>
>> Yes, he's teaching me the lesson of my life by exposing me. I'm not
>> exactly sure what he;'s supposed to be exposing, though.
>> Something about posession or something.
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> I thought it was something about how high your post count is...
>
> Results 1 - 10 of about 1,320 for group:rec.aviation.piloting
> author:Maxwell
>
> Results 1 - 10 of 755 for group:rec.aviation.piloting author:"Bertie
the
> Bunyip"
>
> LOL
>

The irony is a special kind of feeling.


Bertie

[Daedalus]

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:18:18 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip >
wrote:

>Daedalus > wrote in
:
>
>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:19:56 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Daedalus > wrote in
:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:57:14 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:ZRaQj.11646$3N1.9712
:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>>> .. .
>>>>>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
>>>>>>> news:VC1Qj.80601$TT4.43104@attbi_s22:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-
>>>>>LondonCityBa
>>>>>>>> dLanding_BAE146.wmv
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How the **** would you know, jerkoff?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well how the jerk would you know, **** off?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I know and you know I know.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Bertie
>>>>
>>>> How did you know that was a flame attempt?
>>>>
>>>> Jade
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>it has his handwritng all over it.
>>>
>>>
>>>Bertie
>>
>> Is his specialty sucky flame attempts?
>>
>> Jade
>>
>
>Yes, he's teaching me the lesson of my life by exposing me. I'm not
>exactly sure what he;'s supposed to be exposing, though.
>Something about posession or something.
>
>
>Bertie

May be he's possessed and hes exposing himself to you. Dont' look at
the demon weiner.

Jade

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

Daedalus > wrote in
:

> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:18:18 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip >
> wrote:
>
>>Daedalus > wrote in
:
>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:19:56 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Daedalus > wrote in
:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:57:14 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:ZRaQj.11646$3N1.9712
:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> .. .
>>>>>>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:VC1Qj.80601$TT4.43104@attbi_s22:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-
>>>>>>LondonCityBa
>>>>>>>>> dLanding_BAE146.wmv
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How the **** would you know, jerkoff?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well how the jerk would you know, **** off?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I know and you know I know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bertie
>>>>>
>>>>> How did you know that was a flame attempt?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jade
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>it has his handwritng all over it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Bertie
>>>
>>> Is his specialty sucky flame attempts?
>>>
>>> Jade
>>>
>>
>>Yes, he's teaching me the lesson of my life by exposing me. I'm not
>>exactly sure what he;'s supposed to be exposing, though.
>>Something about posession or something.
>>
>>
>>Bertie
>
> May be he's possessed and hes exposing himself to you. Dont' look at
> the demon weiner.
>

Actually i thnk he's been exposing his wenis.


bertie

[Daedalus]

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:59:55 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip >
wrote:

>Daedalus > wrote in
:
>
>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:18:18 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Daedalus > wrote in
:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:19:56 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Daedalus > wrote in
:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:57:14 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:ZRaQj.11646$3N1.9712
:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> .. .
>>>>>>>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:VC1Qj.80601$TT4.43104@attbi_s22:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-
>>>>>>>LondonCityBa
>>>>>>>>>> dLanding_BAE146.wmv
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How the **** would you know, jerkoff?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well how the jerk would you know, **** off?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I know and you know I know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bertie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How did you know that was a flame attempt?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jade
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>it has his handwritng all over it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Bertie
>>>>
>>>> Is his specialty sucky flame attempts?
>>>>
>>>> Jade
>>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, he's teaching me the lesson of my life by exposing me. I'm not
>>>exactly sure what he;'s supposed to be exposing, though.
>>>Something about posession or something.
>>>
>>>
>>>Bertie
>>
>> May be he's possessed and hes exposing himself to you. Dont' look at
>> the demon weiner.
>>
>
>Actually i thnk he's been exposing his wenis.
>
>
>bertie

Oh good. We can't see that.

Jade

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

Daedalus > wrote in
:

> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:59:55 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip >
> wrote:
>
>>Daedalus > wrote in
:
>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:18:18 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Daedalus > wrote in
:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:19:56 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Daedalus > wrote in
:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:57:14 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:ZRaQj.11646
$3N1.9712
:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> .. .
>>>>>>>>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:VC1Qj.80601$TT4.43104@attbi_s22:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-
>>>>>>>>LondonCityBa
>>>>>>>>>>> dLanding_BAE146.wmv
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How the **** would you know, jerkoff?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well how the jerk would you know, **** off?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I know and you know I know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Bertie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How did you know that was a flame attempt?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jade
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>it has his handwritng all over it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bertie
>>>>>
>>>>> Is his specialty sucky flame attempts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jade
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yes, he's teaching me the lesson of my life by exposing me. I'm not
>>>>exactly sure what he;'s supposed to be exposing, though.
>>>>Something about posession or something.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Bertie
>>>
>>> May be he's possessed and hes exposing himself to you. Dont' look at
>>> the demon weiner.
>>>
>>
>>Actually i thnk he's been exposing his wenis.
>>
>>
>>bertie
>
> Oh good. We can't see that.
>
> Jade
>
>

Well, not unless he bends over backwards.


Bertie

[Daedalus]

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:02:29 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip >
wrote:

>Daedalus > wrote in
:
>
>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:59:55 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Daedalus > wrote in
:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:18:18 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Daedalus > wrote in
:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:19:56 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Daedalus > wrote in
:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:57:14 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:ZRaQj.11646
>$3N1.9712
:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> .. .
>>>>>>>>>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>> news:VC1Qj.80601$TT4.43104@attbi_s22:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-22-
>>>>>>>>>LondonCityBa
>>>>>>>>>>>> dLanding_BAE146.wmv
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How the **** would you know, jerkoff?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well how the jerk would you know, **** off?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I know and you know I know.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Bertie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How did you know that was a flame attempt?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jade
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>it has his handwritng all over it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bertie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is his specialty sucky flame attempts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jade
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, he's teaching me the lesson of my life by exposing me. I'm not
>>>>>exactly sure what he;'s supposed to be exposing, though.
>>>>>Something about posession or something.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Bertie
>>>>
>>>> May be he's possessed and hes exposing himself to you. Dont' look at
>>>> the demon weiner.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Actually i thnk he's been exposing his wenis.
>>>
>>>
>>>bertie
>>
>> Oh good. We can't see that.
>>
>> Jade
>>
>>
>
>Well, not unless he bends over backwards.
>
>
>Bertie

And we know he only does that for the one he loves.

Jade

[Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]]

Daedalus > wrote in
:

> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:02:29 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip >
> wrote:
>
>>Daedalus > wrote in
:
>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:59:55 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Daedalus > wrote in
:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:18:18 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Daedalus > wrote in
:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:19:56 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Daedalus > wrote in
:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:57:14 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:ZRaQj.11646
>>$3N1.9712
:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> .. .
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:VC1Qj.80601$TT4.43104@attbi_s22:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-4-
22-
>>>>>>>>>>LondonCityBa
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dLanding_BAE146.wmv
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How the **** would you know, jerkoff?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well how the jerk would you know, **** off?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I know and you know I know.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Bertie
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How did you know that was a flame attempt?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jade
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>it has his handwritng all over it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Bertie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is his specialty sucky flame attempts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jade
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes, he's teaching me the lesson of my life by exposing me. I'm
not
>>>>>>exactly sure what he;'s supposed to be exposing, though.
>>>>>>Something about posession or something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bertie
>>>>>
>>>>> May be he's possessed and hes exposing himself to you. Dont' look
at
>>>>> the demon weiner.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Actually i thnk he's been exposing his wenis.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>bertie
>>>
>>> Oh good. We can't see that.
>>>
>>> Jade
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Well, not unless he bends over backwards.
>>
>>
>>Bertie
>
> And we know he only does that for the one he loves.
>
> Jade
>
>

He appears to harbor some sort of deep affection for me, otherwise, why
would he keep coming back for more?

Bertie