Going to New York City

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I will be flying to NYC in May and am looking for recommendations on
local airports to hit. Will be coming from the west (Wisconsin) in a
Cirrus and can go IFR or VFR. My wife & I will be on vacation staying
in the city so the convenience of commute is not terribly important -
an hour each way would be fine.

The information on this topic in the archives is rather dated so I
thought I'd start a new thread. Thanks for any tips.

Paul

[Travis Marlatte]

White Plains (KHPN). Panorama waived the ramp fee with fuel (last fall).
Free shuttle back and forth to the train station. Something like $6/person
one way into Penn Station. Less than an hour train ride.

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Travis
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> wrote in message
...
>I will be flying to NYC in May and am looking for recommendations on
> local airports to hit. Will be coming from the west (Wisconsin) in a
> Cirrus and can go IFR or VFR. My wife & I will be on vacation staying
> in the city so the convenience of commute is not terribly important -
> an hour each way would be fine.
>
> The information on this topic in the archives is rather dated so I
> thought I'd start a new thread. Thanks for any tips.
>
> Paul

[Alan Gerber]

Travis Marlatte > wrote:
> White Plains (KHPN). Panorama waived the ramp fee with fuel (last fall).
> Free shuttle back and forth to the train station. Something like $6/person
> one way into Penn Station. Less than an hour train ride.

Actually, the train goes to Grand Central Station, not Penn Station.

.... Alan
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[Big John]

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:25:20 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

>I will be flying to NYC in May and am looking for recommendations on
>local airports to hit. Will be coming from the west (Wisconsin) in a
>Cirrus and can go IFR or VFR. My wife & I will be on vacation staying
>in the city so the convenience of commute is not terribly important -
>an hour each way would be fine.
>
>The information on this topic in the archives is rather dated so I
>thought I'd start a new thread. Thanks for any tips.
>
>Paul
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Paul

You might want to check out Stewart International Apt @ Newburg. The
Port Authority took it over as a reliver field for NYC area. Probably
have buss service to city?

It's far enough out of NYC traffic you should be able to get in and
out without any traffic problems either IFR or VFR.

I wrote the plan when the Air Force closed it in 1970.

Big John

[B A R R Y]

On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:24:42 +0000 (UTC), Alan Gerber
> wrote:

>Travis Marlatte > wrote:
>> White Plains (KHPN). Panorama waived the ramp fee with fuel (last fall).
>> Free shuttle back and forth to the train station. Something like $6/person
>> one way into Penn Station. Less than an hour train ride.
>
>Actually, the train goes to Grand Central Station, not Penn Station.
>

Wouldn't it depend on the train?

I can go to either station from the New Haven line, depending on which
company owns the train. I think both Amtrak and Metro-North also run
the Hudson line. However, Amtrak won't be $6. <G>

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Thanks Travis - will check out HPM. This was not on my list before.

On Apr 25, 12:24 am, "Travis Marlatte"
> wrote:
> White Plains (KHPN). Panorama waived the ramp fee with fuel (last fall).
> Free shuttle back and forth to the train station. Something like $6/person
> one way into Penn Station. Less than an hour train ride.
>
> --
> -------------------------------
> Travis
> Lake N3094P
> PWK

[Ash Wyllie]

paul.folbrecht opined

>I will be flying to NYC in May and am looking for recommendations on
>local airports to hit. Will be coming from the west (Wisconsin) in a
>Cirrus and can go IFR or VFR. My wife & I will be on vacation staying
>in the city so the convenience of commute is not terribly important -
>an hour each way would be fine.

>The information on this topic in the archives is rather dated so I
>thought I'd start a new thread. Thanks for any tips.

Does anyone have any comments on Republic airport in Farmingdale? I have to be
in the area in the next few days and it looks like the best choice for location.


-ash
Cthulhu in 2008!
Vote the greater evil.

[Mike Isaksen]

"Ash Wyllie" wrote ...
> Does anyone have any comments on Republic airport in Farmingdale?
> I have to be in the area in the next few days and it looks like the best
> choice for location.

Flying in from the West I usually direct Manhattan bound visitors into KCDW,
Caldwell, NJ. MacDan's gave good service with reasonable rates (I haven't
been there in a few years).

If your business is Brooklyn, Queens or Long Island, then KFRG or KISP is
very GA prop tolerant. Both offer excellent concierge, rental cars or a
quick taxi to the local train station (LIRR) for service into the city.

FRG has two FBOs which both cater to the BizJet crowd (probably turning
around 3 to 6 bizjets an hour each). You'll get good service at either and
pay for it, this is Long Island afterall. Definitely call ahead to both FBOs
for rates, you'll be charged for landing (passed on to NYS-DOT), ramp
handling, parking (ask about day hourly and overnight rates), fuel cost and
minimums. That will prevent any sticker shock when you hand over your credit
card. The eye-candy is excellent at either place, and the bathrooms are
clean and well stocked (should you want to freshen up before schmoozing the
eye-candy).

Of the two I prefer SheltAir on the East side (unless you need maint) as
they are a supporter of AirNav. They also handle more props and don't seem
to move your plane as often once parked.
The other FBO is Atlantic on the Southeast corner of the field. It's equally
well staffed, and is a 24/7 operation should you need that.
(sidenote: The Atlantic FBO chain has a long standing legal dispute with
AirNav about publishing fuel prices. Seems AirNav lets customers update fuel
prices and Atlantic doesn't want prices shown. So therefore Atlantic doesn't
show up on AirNav.)

If you don't mind being a bit further out on the Island, consider flying
into KISP. They have two FBOs also, but there NY Jet (aka Mid Island Air
Service) is very prop friendly. They also charge for everything so it isn't
cheaper, but it just feels friendlier. Don't let the ISP Class C bother you,
it's actually much less hectic than FRG's Class D.

[Roy Smith]

In article <9i0Rj.251$Yo2.211@trndny01>,
"Mike Isaksen" > wrote:

> The Atlantic FBO chain has a long standing legal dispute with
> AirNav about publishing fuel prices. Seems AirNav lets customers update fuel
> prices and Atlantic doesn't want prices shown. So therefore Atlantic doesn't
> show up on AirNav.)

DO they really have a legal leg to stand on with this? Do I not have a
right to tell people how much I paid for gas someplace?

[Mike Isaksen]

"Roy Smith" wrote ...
>
> "Mike Isaksen" wrote:
>
>> The Atlantic FBO chain has a long standing legal dispute with
>> AirNav about publishing fuel prices. Seems AirNav lets customers update
>> fuel
>> prices and Atlantic doesn't want prices shown. So therefore Atlantic
>> doesn't
>> show up on AirNav.)
>
> DO they really have a legal leg to stand on with this? Do I not have a
> right to tell people how much I paid for gas someplace?

I learned this last summer when I emailed AirNav to ask why Atlantic wasn't
listed. I got back a very prompt reply from AirNav explaining that they were
served with legal papers from Atlantic's attorney. AirNav has been around a
while but is really a small operation and wisely won't (can't afford to)
litigate on principle.
I didn't believe what I was told so I asked one of the Atlantic managers and
he confirmed that "Atlantic had a lot of problems with the AirNav site". He
seemed very knowledgeable on the issue, mentioned that Atlantic operates
numerous FBOs, and was getting continuous negative customer feedback
(complaints) that they were being charged different rates than posted on
AirNav. I guess they took the easy solution and cancelled their ad payments.
I never followed up on why AirNav doesn't have a commercial advert listing
without fuel prices. The stories I got were remarkably consistent though, so
that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

[David Lindenauer]

On 27 Apr 2008 8:26:39 -0500, "Ash Wyllie" > wrote:
>Does anyone have any comments on Republic airport in Farmingdale?

2-2.5 miles to Long Island Railroad, then about an hour to Penn
Station, fare is $7, $9.75 during peak hours.