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Charles Manoras
April 26th 08, 05:36 AM
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>               __________ 1938 Westland Lysander 1
>          A No 208 Squadron Westland Lysander, patrolling the Suez
>     Canal in 1939, circles the Gebel-Mariam monument
What are these things (well) above the wheels?
How do you call the aerodynamically (*) shaped
features in which the wheels are nested?
(*) or at least one would hope so.
Also why do the wings have this double taper
(see next picture where it's more apparent)?
Thanks.
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:36:32 -0400, "Charles Manoras"
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>>               __________ 1938 Westland Lysander 1
>>          A No 208 Squadron Westland Lysander, patrolling the Suez
>>     Canal in 1939, circles the Gebel-Mariam monument
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>What are these things (well) above the wheels?
>
>How do you call the aerodynamically (*) shaped
>features in which the wheels are nested?
>
>(*) or at least one would hope so.
>
>Also why do the wings have this double taper
>(see next picture where it's more apparent)?
>
>Thanks.
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I can't answer those questions. Perhaps one of the resident metal bird
gurus can.
What I can give you is the text from the book concerning the Lysander:
     Westland
     Lysander
          Conceived in World War One, the role of army co-operation
     was considered essential enough to justify a series of aeroplanes
     specifically designed for this task in the following two decades,
     and for the RAF to designate complete squadrons to such duties.
     Westland's high-wing Lysander - or 'Lizzie' as it was commonly
     called - was the first monoplane in RAF service to undertake the
     role, and in the event the last to be designed solely for such a
     purpose.
          First issued to No 16 Squadron at RAF Old Sarum in June
     1938, Lizzies eventually equipped more than 30 squadrons and
     other special units. Seeing brief but gallant action in France
     and the North African campaigns of 1940-41, the Lysander was then
     relegated to more mundane but no less vital roles such as
     target-tugs, air-sea rescue, and general communications liaison.
          Specially adapted versions, however, played a secret 'cloak
     and dagger' role from 1941 to 1944, transporting and retrieving
     Allied secret agents to and from Occupied Europe.
          Bearing in mind its original design conception, the Lysander
     was admirably suited to its role. Pilots sat high with an
     excellent all-round downward field of vision, while the
     aircraft's slow speed characteristics offered landing runs said
     to be no longer than a cricket pitch. A heavy landing was
     occasionally known to shake loose the weighty Mercury engine from
     its holding bolts, but when treated with average respect a
     Lysander was considered a pleasant, restful machine to operate.
          Group Captain Vaughan-Fowler flew the Lysander extensively:
          "My first introduction to the Lysander was in November, 1941
     at RAF Old Sarum where the Army Co-Operation Operational Training
     Unit was based. Having finished my advanced training on
     Hurricanes I was not looking forward to regressing to some
     aircraft that looked as though the Science Museum was clearing
     out its old stock. How wrong my original thoughts were. Some
     three years and 800 hours later I had - and still have - a
     tremendous affection for an aircraft which had taken me and not a
     few passengers in and out of some fairly odd places.
          One's first approach to the aircraft was slightly daunting.
     To get into it required two steps to reach the top of one of the
     wheels and then a rather complicated climb up the wing strut and
     into the cockpit which sat some ten feet above the ground. From
     this vantage point a very good downwards view was obtained. The
     main difference in the controls from other aircraft of the time
     was the elevator trimmer. This changed the angle of incidence of
     the tail plane and could be lethal if the aircraft was taken off
     with the landing incidence still selected; this was achieved by
     winding a wheel on the left of the seat. Another similar wheel
     on the right of the seat raised and lowered the seat. This could
     also cause embarrassment at times; if dive bombing was being
     carried out and the seat was not in the fully up position you
     found yourself plummeting to the bottom of the cockpit when high
     G-forces were applied.
          I was able to fly the Mark I, II, III and IIIA. They were
     all very similar except for the engines. The Mark I had the
     Bristol Mercury XV rated at 15,000ft and with only a two speed
     propeller it had to be throttled back above 10,000ft so as not to
     exceed engine speed limitations. The Mark II had the Bristol
     Perseus, a sleeve-valved engine; not too successful and not many
     were built. The Mark III had the derated XX and XXX Bristol
     Mercurys and the aircraft used for special operations also had
     the Rotol variable pitch propeller allowing for more economical
     operation.
          My main connection with the Lysander was over two years on
     special operations operating into France from the UK and into
     Greece, Yugoslavia and France from Italy and Corsica. If I
     describe one of the more difficult trips it will, perhaps, best
     underline the sterling qualities of the aircraft. Squadron
     Leader Hugh Verity (author of We Landed by Moonlight) and I were
     detailed for an operation (code-named Floride) near Chateroux in
     the middle of France. Cloud base was 200 feet and raining when
     we left Tangmere on the night of 21/22 July 1943 and remained
     thick and low for virtually the whole trip. By that time in our
     tour of operations we were fairly experienced and we had to fly
     on instruments most of the time breaking cloud just before coming
     to our major check points like the French coast, the River Loire
     and the target area where there were a number of easily
     recognised water land marks. The return was similar and about 6
     1/2 hours later we arrived back at Tangmere with seven passengers
     including a mother and her two children. I noted at the time
     that we were the only two aircraft to leave the UK on operations
     that night. It would have been impossible for any other aircraft
     to manoeuvre in such poor visibility and low cloud base let alone
     land in a 600-yard field. One of the more bizarre episodes of
     this period was a landing on a flare-path of three candles! The
     Gestapo had surprised the reception party the day before and they
     were unable to replace the torches that had been abandoned."
Waldo.Pepper[_2_]
April 27th 08, 01:42 AM
What are these things (well) above the wheels?
A: They are sponsons for the hanging of external stores (i.e. bombs).
(Or in some cases containerized dingies.) 
How do you call the aerodynamically (*) shaped
features in which the wheels are nested?
A: The coverings are commonly refered to as spats, and because they
often became caked with mud it was common enough for them to be
removed in the field.
Also why do the wings have this double taper
(see next picture where it's more apparent)
A: The outer leading edge of the wing has a slat fitted to it. The
inner portion tapers backward for pilot visibility, and has no slat.
The plane was an army cooperation (i.e. observation) model. At low
altitudes the ability for the pilot to look around is paramount.
Waldo.
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:36:32 -0400, "Charles Manoras"
> wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>>               __________ 1938 Westland Lysander 1
>>          A No 208 Squadron Westland Lysander, patrolling the Suez
>>     Canal in 1939, circles the Gebel-Mariam monument
>
>
>What are these things (well) above the wheels?
>
>How do you call the aerodynamically (*) shaped
>features in which the wheels are nested?
>
>(*) or at least one would hope so.
>
>Also why do the wings have this double taper
>(see next picture where it's more apparent)?
>
>Thanks.
> 
>
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